The Mystery of the 1967 Topps Brooks Robinson
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- With 18 All-Star nods, 16 Gold Gloves, 2 World Series and an MVP, Brooks Robinson is perhaps one of greatest 3rd Baseman in the history of Baseball...But did you know his 1967 Topps #600 is perhaps one of the top rarities of the 1960's? Here's the story...As always, thank you for stopping by and make sure to check out my latest articles at historythoughcards.com
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Interesting. Never realized the 67 brooks was a little tougher to find. Thanks for the dive.
Oh you're very welcome, I enjoy doing this kind of stuff.
That Brooks Robinson 67 is hard to find Center
I got lucky two weeks ago at card shop and bought this Brooks 1967 card. They did not know it was a high # and short printed. It was in good/very good condition for $10.00 dollars! I have been collecting since 1980 and I have owned only two of this card. Awesome card of a great player. Loved your video. Thanks!
Great upload dude. Good Job
Thanks, I really appreciate that. Brooks was the best. RIP.
Last week my wonderful wife gave me a ‘67 Brooks card for my birthday! When asked about his ‘58 card, Brooks said it looked like he was just about to throw up!
Happy Birthday John, and many more! Congrats on obtaining the 67 Brooks! What a great Birthday gift. I think the photo of the 58 Topps Brooks makes him look unflattering and has probably kept the price down somewhat.
I believe there were two versions of the '67 Topps sheets. One on which there was no Brooks card and the other only had it as a single print. Gelman definitely would have had access to cards from the Topps plant as he was an employee as the Art Director. He may have requested a quantity of the Brooks card directed to him. At this point, the Orioles were the prevailing World Champs and it could have been for a potential promotional event. Also, the '64 Curt Flood card has been accumulated by one collector for years and he has thousands of them at this point. A definite obsession.
I didn't know about the 1964 Topps Curt Flood which is interesting, and you could be on to something with the single print Robinson. It would be interesting to see a sheet of 1967 Topps Baseball.
There might be something to this story as the Brooks Robinson card is one of four cards I need to complete my collection. The Seaver rookie, Carew rookie, and Mike Shannon cards are the other three.
I hope you can achieve this goal! All the best. Seaver and Carew might be two of the most expensive cards in the set aside from the Brooks, but Carew is criminally underrated by collectors. I dont quite understand why Brooks card has been historically difficult and these articles dont go into very much detail as to why that may be? They're still fun and hihly entertaining.
Awesome.
Great video. Ebay has changed things in that we can now find these cards. This is still a tough find though….
Oh absolutely! Ebay has changed the way we determine rare cards and supply and demand. I still don't really come across this card at shows, but this was a card I dreamed of one day obtaining. It was my dream as a collector.
Hello Ryan Great Show very entertaining!
Did anybody mention your Nagle ? You couldn't go anywhere in the early 80's without seeing his work.
I just did a Show telling about my dad getting Willie Mays autograph. What I did not say in the video was how my dads favorite player was Brooks Robinson, so that story about Brooks shaking Cam's hand makes me feel good to know my dad's hero was a cool person. Peace
You're just the second person to mention that Patrick Nagle print! I got that from the original owner who sent away for it through a promotional in a 1983 Playboy Magazine. Nagle's prints were forged so much after his death that it's difficult to tell an original, but this one checked out. A lot of people may not realize that Duran Duran's Rio album features Nagle's work! He had such incredible work too. I've heard a few stories about Willie Mays at signings which made me think twice, but Brooksie has always been very good to fans and what I saw when he encountered Cam Neely was a class act.
Great memories of Brooks Robinson. R.I.P. "The Human Vacuum".
Brooks will be missed, but certainly not forgotten!
Sorry, but I gotta go with Mike Schmidt being the best 3B of all time. 66 and 67 were tough years for some reason trying to find certain players in those high number short printed series.
Mike Schmidt was a tremendous player but I'm thinking that "the best" players at their positions depends on the era in which they played. My top three 3rd Baseman would be: Brooks Robinson, Mike Schmidt and Pie Traynor. Topps high number series and player selection between 1965 and 1968 are interesting. They can be quite challenging. I also believe that the 67 Brooks may be easier to find today because of ebay.
Long live the Human Vacuum Cleaner! Also, though it sounds like no one fielded better than Brooks, Mike Schmidt might wanna have a convo with you about the best 3rd baseman ;) George Brett may wanna chime in too :)
You know I forgot about Mike Schmidt, Home Run Baker, Jimmy Collins, George Brett and Eddie Mathews as amazing 3rd Baseman, though I still say Brooks Robinson is still THE greatest in the second half of the 20th Century. I did really enjoy watching George Brett and John Valentin as a kid.
@@historythroughcards-shortc814 Eddie Mathews!
Another one that was pretty good but not the Hall of Fame was Buddy Bell 6 gold gloves
@@mikekeeler6362 Texas Rangers!
Awesome Robinson showcase and story. I agree, the photo on his ‘58 is awful. Surely they could have found a better picture to use. I wasn’t even aware of the story of the ‘67 Brooks Robinson. Very interesting. I do not believe that someone hoarded stacks of the card. It is certainly possible, but why the ‘67 out of all his cards? I think it was more likely possibly an oversight by Topps in their sheets. Maybe it was printed on some early sheets, but was not included on later printed sheets, by accident.
It's a great question to ask - of all Robinson's cards? I'd like to see a 1967 Topps Hi-No. full sheet and see where this card is on it, if nothing else just for my own curiosity. The card's seeming rarity and price puts a dent in my plans to acquire one, but one never knows what might turn up in this hobby...
11:15 if time is short. Of course it's a short print, but that alone doesn't explain the prices. It seems like a very long time for anyone to hoard a big pile of this card.
This may be one of those mysteries that is never solved. I have uncovered a little more info. Here's what we know for sure, Woody Gelman worked for Topps until the time of his death in 1978. Sam Rosen who was a big dealer in the 50's was Woody Gelman's Father in Law and Woody encouraged Sam Rosen to sell cards to supplement his retirement. It seems logical that his stock of cards for sale came from his connection that Woody Gelman had by working at Topps. Most likely there was a deal struck between Topps and Sam Rosen where Rosen would purchase old stock or overstock that didn't sell.
Sam Rosen suddenly died in 1958 and at that point Woody Gelman took over the card business and named in Card Collectors Club. Woody's son Richard worked for his Dad in the business and took over the business when Woody died in 1978. There was a warehouse fire in December of 1975 causing them to lose large amounts of inventory and the rest having smoke and water damage. Now here is what is interesting. There are old ads in the April and May 1977 The Trader Speaks where a man named Don Leopore was selling vending boxes and cases of Topps cards from 1962, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969,1970,1971 and 1972. The 60's cards were gone in just a couple of months and the rest sold through future TTS ads in 1977. Now here is what I just found out, Don Leopore who was selling the vending cases in TTS in 1977 actually worked for Card Collector's Company running the day to day operations. I have also heard though I haven't been able to confirm it but some have said that Larry Fritsch eventually bought the CCC stock from Richard gelman at some point.
I think you're right and I wouldnt put anything past Gelman with his connection with Topps. I think Sam Rosen was one of the first true dealers in the country along with Goody Goldfaden. Difference being, Goldfaden sold other things besides cards, and didn't have the inventory that Rosen\Gelman had. Woody Gelman is certainly one of the more fascinating Hobby pioneers for sure and unlike any other of those guys (besides Bill Haber), he actually designed many of the card sets for Topps.
I'm a card collector, and also a big Brooks Robinson fan. Yes, that card is highly elusive, very difficult to find. I have a lot of Brooksie cards, but not that 1967 topps Brooksie. I might point out to you that there are a few other mysterious highly elusive cards. A good example is the 1966 topps Horace Clarke card. The guy was a scrub, but his card is worth hundreds. Yes, Brooks Robinson is the greatest third baseman I've ever seen, and he was not a light hitter.
Thanks. I'm going to have to look into the 1966 Horace Clarke. I've never heard of him,so this is going to be interesting. Brooks was an awesome player and an awesome person. Do you have any favorite cards of Brooksie?
@History Through Cards - Shortcut Well I love the way that 1967 Brooks card looks, it might be my favorite Brooksie card. That 1960 topps looks cool and I've had a minty one of that Fleer Brooksie that you showed since the seventies, that's a cool card. Hard to choose other favorite Brooks cards, all his cards are great.
He led the AL in Hits during the entire decade of the 1960s. Was also 3rd in EXTRA-BASE hits (behind Yastrzemski and Killebrew). Also led the entire Major leagues in Sacrifice Flies that decade. Think about that: Sacrifice Flies are mutually exclusive from Hits.
I’ve heard something similar about the rareness of the ‘61 Topps Hal Smith. The theory I’ve heard is that some guy from the Midwest buys up all the ones he finds :)
I've never heard about this one, sounds like something I've got to find out! Is it Hal R. Smith or Hal W. Smith?
@@historythroughcards-shortc814 W! :)
I bought a collection that had the W in near perfect condition. It graded an SGC 8.5. I didn't know it was a hoarded card, and I only had it graded because it was in such good shape. I was very surprised to see it end up selling for close to $300 at eBay auction. Maybe I should've held out for more!
Its a short print its also in the last series. Card were released in series back then at the last release for the summer almost always created cards hard to find
Mike Schmidt...THE best 3rd Basemen ever.
Unfortunately I only got to see Mike Schmidt during the 1983 World Series and was only able to follow his career though baseball cards and Beckett Monthly so I never got know just how good he was game to game. I would say he's probably top 3 by stats alone. In fact I did purchase a Schmidt rookie not long ago, and it wasn't as expensive as I thought it should have been or may have been during his career. I wonder when we say "the best ever", is that generational too?
Haha I literally just had a holy sh$t moment because I remember seeing a brooks Robinson card in my father in laws mid-late 1960s collection. I just looked…it’s the 1968 not 1967
That would have been nice if you had a '67 Brooksie. I wonder how many collectors had one of these, or actually remember seeing one when they were first issued?