The Zelda timeline is crazier than you think

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  • @crestenor
    @crestenor Před rokem +970

    “Just kill him”
    Killing Ganon just reincarnates him in the next generation. Sealing him holds him off for as long as the seal holds, which tends to be for quite a while.

    • @lucamagmousseux4470
      @lucamagmousseux4470 Před rokem +51

      Obviously.
      But looks like there is really dumb people , and those People are suppose to "explain " the timeline to other without knowing something as obvious as That...sad

    • @RikThunder33
      @RikThunder33 Před rokem +105

      also doesnt help that nobody really knows about the curse. been too long.

    • @capsey_
      @capsey_ Před rokem +17

      ​@@RikThunder33 but if nobody knows about the curse, why aren't they killing him? like, to argue that you can't kill him cuz he'll reincarnate you should first know that he'll reincarnate?

    • @RikThunder33
      @RikThunder33 Před rokem +54

      @@capsey_ there is a difference. I'm sure they know that he always seems to come back when killed. But they would not necessarily know that bloodlines were cursed.
      It makes sense to seal him, even if the seal will weaken because it seems to at least buy some time of peace. Arguably longer than after his death. But I'm not sure.

    • @anthonyhaney626
      @anthonyhaney626 Před rokem +10

      @@capsey_ all lot of Ganons have the triforce of power which means they can't kill him I think

  • @broccoliben7961
    @broccoliben7961 Před rokem +596

    This whole time I was just trying to comprehend how he pronounces Ganondorf

  • @lions_exist3573
    @lions_exist3573 Před rokem +559

    "Is this real, is this canon?"
    "Yes, this is real, and yes, this is canon." That was perfect.

  • @SupaLink
    @SupaLink Před rokem +409

    “That Skyloft area looks like it could house like 50 people.”
    Heck, I can’t remember there being more than 15 people on there.

    • @devonm042690
      @devonm042690 Před rokem +47

      Nah, I think 50's about right. There's all the people with stalls at the Bazaar plus their family, the knights, the knight apprentices, the academy staff, and the ordinary residents (and one not-so-ordinary resident). The ordinary residents probably total close to 20.

    • @kokijjijktfgdhjw3576
      @kokijjijktfgdhjw3576 Před rokem +50

      Owlan
      Horwell
      Gaepora
      Link
      Zelda
      Groose
      Cawlin
      Stritch
      Pipit
      Pipit's Mom
      Kukiel
      Kukiel's mom
      Kukiel's Dad,
      Batreaux
      Karane
      Old lady in the academy
      Gondo
      Gondo's mom/wife
      Mr Skyloft
      Item Check Girl
      Bertie (Potion guy)
      Luv (Potion mom)
      the baby (Potion son)
      Beedle
      Piper (the kid who rolls into the tree)
      Piper's mom
      Orielle
      Parrow
      Sparrot (Fortune teller)
      Kina (pumpkin daughter)
      Pumpkin guy
      Keet (Pumpkin young boy)
      Pumpkin Old Man
      Beedle
      two other guys chillin in the bazaar
      Eagus
      Fledge
      the 3 knights who save u when u fall and fart gas in the beginning of the ceremony
      Total: 40

    • @devonm042690
      @devonm042690 Před rokem +9

      @@kokijjijktfgdhjw3576 Carpenter guy? You mean the guy with the big nose? I thought he was Kukiel's father? Maybe I've got things mixed up. And why isn't Gondo on your list? How did you forget the Scrap Shop tinkerer of all characters? He has a mother, too, who complains about always having to wash his clothes. So aren't there 42 people on Skyloft?

    • @kokijjijktfgdhjw3576
      @kokijjijktfgdhjw3576 Před rokem +5

      @@devonm042690 Carpenter guy meant Gondo my bad and the tinkerer is his wife/mom. I forgot their names, Ima just edit the comment

    • @Blackbaldrik
      @Blackbaldrik Před rokem +16

      I think the idea is that what we see of Skyloft is just the Knight's Academy and Temple area, and there are more lands with way more people out there in the sky somewhere that we don't see, because none of the important stuff happens there.

  • @calebgoodman3028
    @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +625

    The timeline makes sense to me but I completely understand how people could be confused. They make the games while jumping around places in the timeline so it’s not as simple as release order.

    • @Yakshimara
      @Yakshimara Před rokem +44

      I remain convinced they had at best a couple of direct sequels but they were their own universes until fans kept saying there's a timeline enough they decided to make one up to get them to stop. Oh, and also to help sell a 30 dollar book. That I have. It was on sale.

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +12

      @@Yakshimara I would believe that if the boxes that have the games didn’t say otherwise. 😂

    • @sailorgallifrey1365
      @sailorgallifrey1365 Před rokem +27

      And then after they made the timeline they were like “fuck how do we keep making games without contradicting ourselves?” And so after a few games they decided “fuck it this game takes place so far in the future nothing else matters”

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +13

      @@sailorgallifrey1365 They did promote BotW as a soft reboot after all. Even based its concept on the first game’s theme of exploration.

    • @Dr.HooWho
      @Dr.HooWho Před rokem +1

      @@sailorgallifrey1365 thought link reincarnated?

  • @sharingheart13
    @sharingheart13 Před rokem +106

    The Zelda in Twilight Princess was honestly very epic on her own right. Probably the first canon Zelda to carry a sword. The one in Spirit Tracks was a very delicate flower who was afraid of everything, but she's also the Zelda who does the most in her game, actively being a playable character and hard-carrying plenty.

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +17

      She carries a lot of burdens. Most of the time she sets things in motion to allow Link to even start his quest like with splitting the Triforce, telepathy, generally getting him where he needs to go while she handles things behind the scenes. Also The Wind Waker is the first time we see her with a sword (the Master Sword no less) and even before then as Tetra she carried a dagger and saved Link’s life. Ocarina of Time is a little hard to tell probably due to the limitations but Sheik is shown with a knife fighting alongside Link in official artwork and the skills he does have suggests a lot of combat training under Impa.

  • @calebgoodman3028
    @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +231

    They’re skipping a lot, obviously due to spoilers, but I really like this video. Really helps get a general idea of what happened.

    • @gradypharr1300
      @gradypharr1300 Před rokem +13

      I don't think they are worrying about spoilers, it is probably just because of time restraints.

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +1

      @@gradypharr1300 Maybe.

    • @m_ron2742
      @m_ron2742 Před rokem +8

      @@calebgoodman3028 well technically the video spoils the end of some of the games and characters in it but I get what you mean

  • @pinxied_
    @pinxied_ Před rokem +53

    One thing: Zelda and Link aren't aware that they're part of a never-ending cycle. To put it in a way, they're reincarnated everytime with no memories of their past lives, so in-game they don't actually *know* about the curse, you get me?

    • @Chris-gx1ei
      @Chris-gx1ei Před rokem +5

      Yep, That's also how Buddhist and Hinduist forms of Rebirth work, they become new persons with no memories

    • @SKMedia252
      @SKMedia252 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Similar to Seven deadly sins where Elizabeth doesn't know about the curse on both of them to constantly be reincarnated and killed to then repeat later

  • @jonathanjoestar9112
    @jonathanjoestar9112 Před rokem +73

    Between Majora's mask and Twilight Princess, there was another war. The Hylian Gerudo War. The Hero of Time fights in the war and curses himself to train the next generation. Which means he has to come back to help a lad out

  • @argentumlillium3044
    @argentumlillium3044 Před rokem +95

    Can't forget about the 4th timeline. You got Adult, Child, Basketball, and the *TIMEBREAK*

  • @marche800
    @marche800 Před rokem +71

    In regards to the Curse. It's never actually stated but it's implied that the details of demise's curse were lost to time. A really really long time passes between Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time countless generations pass. Most people don't even remember that Zelda is the reincarnation of the Goddess much less that there's a huge generational curse. And even if they did remember there's a good possibility that that information was lost when Ganondorf wiped out the royal family in the adult and downfall timelines. Demise is never really brought up ever again even in Link Between Worlds and Breath of the Wild which were released after Skyward sword first brought him up, even though there are still other references to that game.

    • @Rafaelrgm
      @Rafaelrgm Před 11 měsíci +3

      Truth be told only Link, who isn't the best at talkin, was an witness to the curse. And thanks to how things went in Skyward sword nobody in his time suffered thanks to demise and as such, probably not taking it that seriously.
      Not to mention that most of the games have such a huge timegap between that they are just legends.

  • @daniellemurnett2534
    @daniellemurnett2534 Před rokem +133

    Genuinely the funniest thing to me about the Zelda timeline is a) one time I'm pretty sure Nintendo went on record to outright state that Breath of the Wild *was* all three of the timelines at once, without explaining it, and b) having a Zelda spin-off game that wasn't mentioned here whose plot _literally revolves around all of the Zelda timelines merging,_ that they're going to slightly too much length to actively exclude from canon.

    • @MikaylaZa
      @MikaylaZa Před rokem +33

      but seriously, dont even tell me that Hyrule Warriors cant be canon because it wasnt made by Nintendo
      Minish Cap, and borh four swords games were made by Capcom. no excuse
      make ot canon cmon it fixed everything so perfectly-

    • @RabblesTheBinx
      @RabblesTheBinx Před rokem +7

      @@MikaylaZa also the Oracle games. Yep, Nintendo's fuck-up on the original timeline regarding the placement of those games was _Capcom's_ fault.
      But no, the reason it can't be canon is because Nintendo doesn't want it to be (and also cuz, like, Hyrule Warriors isn't actually _in_ any of the regular timelines, to begin with. Like, where would you even place it, when elements of all three timelines are treated as alternate universes)

    • @MikaylaZa
      @MikaylaZa Před rokem +13

      @@RabblesTheBinx actually, the original timeline for Hyrule Warriors would be somewhere after Spirit Tracks. At least as far as I would guess.
      Because one of the early stages of the game takes place in the Hero of Times era and in the beginning cut scene impa is said to ‘Recognize it from the era of the Hero of Time’. Meaning, in this case, they didn’t switch dimensions, they went back in time.
      In the Downfall Timeline, the Hero of Time is called The Fallen Hero. In the Child timeline, as far as the rest of the world is concern, there is quite literally never been such thing as a ‘Hero of Time’.
      So the most likely timeline is the adult timeline, the only one that remembers and would actively care about The Hero of Time.
      Put that at the end of the timeline, and-

    • @jackallen162
      @jackallen162 Před rokem +2

      breath of the wild is not all three timelines at once

    • @daniellemurnett2534
      @daniellemurnett2534 Před rokem +2

      @@jackallen162 Then which one is it?

  • @failurextreme7084
    @failurextreme7084 Před rokem +47

    To be fair the sealing bad guys into swords happens over 100s of generations. Like it works for a VEEEERY long time.

  • @ZenithintheMaking
    @ZenithintheMaking Před rokem +33

    Wow at 28:07 He literally said "Is this real, Is this canon" And a video told him "Yes this is Real and yes this is Canon" 😂😂

  • @Emerald-Fluffie
    @Emerald-Fluffie Před rokem +22

    I mean, it does make sense that they won’t guard the master sword that much… because they would kinda want it to be stolen, since if you’re ABLE to grab hold of and steal it, that means you’re literally destined to save the entire kingdom

  • @marche800
    @marche800 Před rokem +62

    The Master Swords got a sword in the stone thing going on. On the worthy can pull it and it deflects evil so there's basically no risk in leaving it around. In fact one time it straight up regenerated from being left in it's pedestal.
    Also the didn't explain this well but the master sword IS more than capable of killing evil, Demise is actually killed in Skyward Sword he remains being slowly destroyed from within the master sword, but it kind of doesn't matter because reincarnation ensures that evil will rise again. The curse is less of a "haha because I have cursed you you're aways going to have a version of me after you" and more "so long as hatred exists in this world, in any form, I'm coming for that ass, and you just gotta deal with it". Seal or no Seal some form of evil will exist.

  • @calebgoodman3028
    @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +111

    Fun Fact: Twilight Princess is the only Zelda game with a T rating and shirtless women. It’s considered the darkest game but since Majora’s Mask has stuff like for example, *transformation masks made by the faces of the dead that melds to your face* it’s a debated topic.

    • @pokuhmoo9415
      @pokuhmoo9415 Před rokem +7

      Shirtless women?!?! WHERE?

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +18

      @@pokuhmoo9415 Secret dungeon underneath that bridge piece in Gerudo Desert. Depending on the version it’s also the only way to get the green potion from the beta build due to a programming oversight.

    • @wintersong2266
      @wintersong2266 Před rokem +13

      Majora's Mask is dark and creepy while Twilight Princess is mostly only dark apart from that one cutscene.

    • @Danjen3ify
      @Danjen3ify Před rokem +1

      The back of my copy of MM says 11+. That's pretty much the equivalent to a T-rating. I would argue that TWW and BotW ties as the darkest, since they are both post-apocalyptic. MM gets close, but you ultimately stop the apocalypse. They are all leagues darker than TP, though.

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +9

      @@Danjen3ify Post apocalyptic doesn’t instantly mean darker. They have darker *backstories* but that’s it. We don’t get to see how people react to the horrors around them or the emotional struggles and trauma of everyone besides a few select NPCs in The Wind Waker and even then they are pretty happy after a little bit of work. Breath of the Wild while worse off in comparison they still manage to do well for themselves after a century building up stable communities with people happy. Majora’s Mask revolves around the lives of these people and their existential dread as they try to make the best of things not knowing whether or not they’ll even see past the third day and Twilight Princess has people living in fear of a growing invasion where no one is safe with children being taken in broad daylight and the tortured, brainwashed citizens of another realm are forced to kill whoever gets caught in the growing expanse of their fusing worlds.

  • @jonieljoestarzawarudo8172

    This dude can't pronounce Ganondorf's name correctly, despite clearly hearing it spelled out several times.

    • @sporkyone
      @sporkyone Před rokem +5

      His accent makes it so he only hears his pronunciation, duhhhh

    • @piranhalettuce
      @piranhalettuce Před rokem +9

      british people be like

    • @dylandavis6381
      @dylandavis6381 Před rokem +1

      i'm british and i pronounce it properly

  • @calebgoodman3028
    @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +161

    Link’s not five in The Minish Cap. Youngest he’s ever been in the series is 9. His age does fluctuate though with the oldest appearing 17 but actually being 117.

    • @kroomies
      @kroomies Před rokem +5

      Just a joke mate

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +13

      @@kroomies True but you can never be too sure.

    • @hazemimam6826
      @hazemimam6826 Před rokem +2

      wasn't link 19 in one game

    • @That_Epseon99
      @That_Epseon99 Před rokem +7

      It kinda bugs me when people say oot link is like 6 or 8 when he is clearly between 11 and 13 since in mm he sounds like he is going through puberty.

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +4

      @@That_Epseon99 Miyamoto himself said he was 9 in an interview for Ocarina of Time so do with that as you will.

  • @Quessir
    @Quessir Před rokem +13

    "There are so many goddesses-" he repeats over and over. By this point four have been named. Four. Three created the world and entrusted the Triforce to the fourth, Hylia. From that point up to when he kept exclaiming about how many goddesses there are, the narrator is only talking about Hylia. Where are all these other goddesses he's on about?!

    • @Chris-gx1ei
      @Chris-gx1ei Před rokem +1

      I dunno, there are for sure other types of deities.
      We have the Three Creator Goddesses , one Patreon Goddess and a bunch of other Gods like the God of Wind and God of Storms in Wind Waker or the Dragons of Skyward Sword or the Light Spirits in Twilight Princess, or the Great Deku Tree and so on which are worshipped as powerful Spirits or as minor Gods at least.
      And then we have the opposing Demon Tribe which is made of Monsters and Minor Demons trying to bring Darkness into the world.
      These demons are usually under the comand of "Master-Demons" which are Demons on a very high power-level that they could actually challenge the Gods or even be titled as Dark Gods, like Demise for Example, even the Lynels, which are in BotW the most powerful Non-Boss-Enemy, these are referred in the Manual of the first Zelda game as Mountaib Deities.
      If you look at Hyrule's Pantheon and count every type of minor or major type supernatural being, it's quiet impressive how many Deities this Pantheon has and that it isnt just made out of Big Gods but made out of Whole Tribes

    • @Quessir
      @Quessir Před rokem

      @@Chris-gx1ei I'll be honest with you, you're replying to something I wrote eight months ago and I have no idea what any of this is about :)

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Před rokem +40

    We’ve seen in teaser trailers for BotW 2 that the Ganon you fight in BotW seems to be just his malice incarnate while Ganondorf’s rotting corpse is under Hyrule somewhere being held down by a glowing green hand thing while Malice spills from his chest…you should watch the first big BotW 2 trailer cause it’s actually really good if you ask me.

  • @rubychan2288
    @rubychan2288 Před rokem +12

    A few notes:
    Leaving the Master Sword unattended is fine because it's enchanted in such a way that evil can never touch it.
    Four Sword and Four Sword Adventure were multiplayer games. Link separated into four parts, which could then be controlled by four different players.
    The Deku Tree is sentient spirit, not just a tree.
    Wolf Link. Normally, human cannot enter the Twilight; those that do become formless spirits. Because TP!Link had the Trifoce of Courage, though, he became a beast instead.
    Link became trapped in the dream of the Windfish, which was being besieged by Nightmares (which may or may not have been yet another incarnation of Demise's hatred). He had to wake it to escape.
    The trailer for BOTW shows the mummified corpse of Ganondorff's human form moving. Whether he's actually being revived or someone/something else is simply puppeting his body we don't know yet.

  • @sethporter9066
    @sethporter9066 Před rokem +4

    1:24
    Actually, the way I understand it, if you value one trait above all others, the Triforce responds to that. Say you have someone who prefers brains over brawn touch the Triforce, all they will be left with is the Triforce of Wisdom. Whereas you have someone who's brave as hell and tries to balance both brains and brawn touch it, they may gain the full Triforce.

  • @nitromiyazaki
    @nitromiyazaki Před rokem +11

    For Botw 2, the reason Ganon returns is because the being they killed was Calamity Ganon, the beast, and considered not to be the actual Ganon itself, you know, the one with intelligence.
    Botw is popularly theorized to take place so far into the future that it’s impossible to distinguish which timeline is true or which legend is accurate anymore. Here, they’re all technically true. Which begs to reason that no matter which timeline, Botw will always be the end result.

  • @bdk336
    @bdk336 Před rokem +7

    You don't see it in these summaries but Zelda carries more often than not. A lot of Zelda game plots can be summed up as "Zelda is busy fighting on the front line waiting on Link to get his shit together to give her some backup."

  • @Swift96
    @Swift96 Před rokem +89

    There's not that many goddesses, there's only four - Din, Nayru, Farore, and Hylia.
    Also, this video is the only time I've ever heard anyone pronounce Ganondorf the way you say it. You even said it that way seconds after the narrator in the video pronounced it differently.

    • @OcarinaT1
      @OcarinaT1 Před rokem +15

      There's also the fifth, unnamed goddess of time referenced in SS, OoT and MM.
      Hylia made the Goddess Sword, but SS Link had to imbue it with the power of the goddess of time in her temple to turn it into the Master Sword.
      The Temple of Time and Ocarina of Time both borrow the goddess's power to allow time travel; in OoT, the Master Sword lets Link travel 7 years into the past/future, and in MM, the Ocarina takes him back to the morning he first arrived in Clock Town.

    • @savvythedivineyethuggable7493
      @savvythedivineyethuggable7493 Před rokem +9

      @@OcarinaT1 Isn't Hylia also the goddess of time?

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +4

      *Nayru.

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +8

      @@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 No but the Goddess of Time might be an unnamed Terminian goddess.

    • @Swift96
      @Swift96 Před rokem +5

      @@calebgoodman3028 oh yeah, I didn't notice that spelling error, thank you

  • @TheCephalon
    @TheCephalon Před rokem +8

    The Zelda timeline is a perfect example of “the overarching plot doesn’t matter as long as the individual games are great”

  • @calebgoodman3028
    @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +15

    Vaati is not reincarnated but he was corrupted. Really sad in all honesty as he was just a child that was possessed by dark powers. The fact he even appeared in Four Swords implies he relapsed after the events of The Minish Cap.

    • @Danjen3ify
      @Danjen3ify Před rokem +4

      Vaati wasn't possessed by anything. He was power-hungry and decided to use his powers for evil. I know he's redeemed in the manga, but that's not canon.

    • @TheLastShinobi2
      @TheLastShinobi2 Před rokem +1

      @@Danjen3ify yeah. Vaati was jealous of the hylians I think.

  • @casenpemberton9709
    @casenpemberton9709 Před rokem +9

    As I huge zelda fan, I love watching this reaction. Haha, if only he knew it was actually waaaaay more complicated than this when you get into the knitty gritty

  • @Gfreak250
    @Gfreak250 Před rokem +8

    Zelda Fans: "Ok, so what's the Zelda timeline again?"
    Nintendo: (lights up crack pipe) "Well, you see..."

  • @travisflor2359
    @travisflor2359 Před rokem +9

    Personally my favorite interpretation is that Hyrule Warriors caused the Timelines to merge back together and then Botw takes place

  • @calebgoodman3028
    @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem +12

    Fi is not a goddess, just a weapon spirit. At most we only have four that were confirmed. It’s possible different realms and continents have their own gods as seen with the Lokomo tribe but that’s about it.

  • @Taveren
    @Taveren Před rokem +1

    i imagine having a baby with all ganondorfs memories would be terrifying
    > Dr "Mrs Johnson Congratulation, hes a boy."
    > Hands baby to mom
    > Mrs Johnson "I want to name him after your late grandfather dear, he meant so much to you."
    > Mr Johnson "Ahh, I love you so much, thank you.
    > Baby "You Will Name Me Ganondorf"
    *EVERYONE TURNS TO LOOK AT THE BABY IN SILENCE*

  • @SyxxPunk
    @SyxxPunk Před rokem +6

    You know what needs to be the follow up?
    Unraveled - Solving the Zelda Timeline in 15 minutes

  • @wintersong2266
    @wintersong2266 Před rokem +8

    This video didn't really explained Wind Waker very well. The Link of that game is not a reincarnation of the previous heroes like the Links in the two other timelines. The Hero of Wind is basically just a random kid who got so pissed off that Ganondorf kidnapped his sister that he forced the gods to make him the new hero so he could go kick his ass.

    • @Danjen3ify
      @Danjen3ify Před rokem +1

      Ever heard of the unreliable narrator? Just because a character says something doesn't make it true.

    • @wintersong2266
      @wintersong2266 Před rokem +2

      @@Danjen3ify Except it make complete sense with everything we know that Wind Waker Link would have no connection with the other heroes. If anything the only unreliable narrator in Wind Waker is Ganondorf who does confuse Link as someone connected to the past heroes.

    • @NoxWyatt
      @NoxWyatt Před měsícem

      Yes, Link, the Hero of Winds, whose just some random kid on an island who got pissed that Shrek’s cousin and some oversized chicken kidnapped his sister, so he forced the gods to make him the new hero so he could go and make mincemeat out of the last member of an extinct race of desert women.

  • @jeremyrossi2716
    @jeremyrossi2716 Před rokem +2

    34:18 “Zelda’s kinda hard carrying in this”
    Ghost Zelda and Tetra:……

  • @johnman8398
    @johnman8398 Před rokem +3

    Badly Explaining the ENTIRE Fate Series in 30 MINUTES is a fun lore video I'd like to see a reaction to.

  • @JeffACornell
    @JeffACornell Před rokem +4

    I think it's implied that Oracle of Ages/Seasons happen shortly after A Link to the Past, and Link's Awakening happens as he's sailing home after those adventures. Not the other way around as presented here. But that's a relatively minor detail in the broad scheme of things.

    • @Danjen3ify
      @Danjen3ify Před rokem

      That was retconned in one of the other books. Now I believe he's an entirely new Link who lives between ALttP and ALBW. It could have been to explain how the Triforce split again after ALttP.

    • @MikaylaZa
      @MikaylaZa Před rokem +1

      aLttP-ooa/oos-LA: is the order most fans agree with. Nintendo changed it for some reason and so makes a little less sense. this video went with what is canon by nintendo, but imo it doesnt work

    • @AllenMS828
      @AllenMS828 Před rokem

      Back when Awakening first came out, before the Oracle games existed, Awakening was presented as a sequel to LttP, happening soon afterward, with the same Link. Obviously the timeline shifts as new games are added, but that was the original intention.

    • @Painocus
      @Painocus Před rokem

      @@AllenMS828 I think people are saying they are all the same Link. LA's backstory is that after restoring the Triforce Link goes on adventures in other countries, but is lost at sea on his way home to Hyrule. In the Oracle games the restored Triforce sends Link on adventures in other countries and at the end Link leaves to return to Hyrule by sea.

  • @tbush6657
    @tbush6657 Před 9 měsíci +1

    One small correction: Zelda in OoT didn't return the Master Sword to the temple because it was sent back with Link, so the sword and spirit of the reincarnating hero no longer exists. They instead build a new master sword powered by 2 sages praying instead of being permanently embued with the goddess's power, and they desperately look for Link's reincarnates not knowing none exist, but they get lucky with a random kid being a fitting replacement who does a frontflip stabbing Ganondorf in the face, where he gets stoned

  • @Nincubura
    @Nincubura Před rokem +3

    calling Majora's Mask filler is something I never heard someone say but is so true at the same time lmfao

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 Před rokem +3

    Demises curse will last forever as long as zelda and link keep resurrecting. So unless hylia herself removes the resurrection ganondorf will always be there, regardless of death or sealing

  • @TOXICNightmare
    @TOXICNightmare Před rokem +5

    I’m using all my Zelda knowledge and I’m 99% sure that the creators of Zelda didn’t even think when they made the games.

    • @Hariol_
      @Hariol_ Před rokem +2

      Not surprising, when the first games were made I doubt they thought it would go this far or need a story, you couldn't really tell a good one with the limitations of the hardware at the time so they didn't put much effort into it. Now that it's pretty much required to have a big story they had to retroactively connect some plot points that just don't make sense. Personally I think they've done a decent job of fitting them together.

  • @shadycactus7896
    @shadycactus7896 Před 10 měsíci +1

    "There are five people there"
    Link doesn't count, he doesn't control a Divine Beast

  • @jaylegoninjago5615
    @jaylegoninjago5615 Před rokem +1

    I have spent hours of my life memorising this timeline. Seeing this video again makes me gag from how much I've watched.

  • @TheWorstPartyMember
    @TheWorstPartyMember Před rokem +6

    I remember watching a reaction to the BoTW sequel trailer once (I think it was DeeBeeGeek?) and he basically said he'd avoided watching the trailer because he hadn't beaten BoTW yet and didn't want to be spoiled. The first BoTW2 trailer doesn't really spoil anything from BoTW...UNLESS you've played other Zeldas before. That corpse's reveal is huge if you know who that is, but if you started with BoTW you'd have no idea. I can't think of any other series where you can get that effect...it's really something.
    Oh also, as a Zelda and Elder Scrolls fan, our timeline woes could all be solved by two words: Dragon. Break.

  • @kaelanmcalpine2011
    @kaelanmcalpine2011 Před rokem +1

    You posted this shortly after I finished MM3D. And speaking of MM, I could've sworn I saw you in the comments of one of chuggaaconroy's videos of his LP of it. I later saw RabbidLuigi but that was more expected as I already knew he liked Chugga and Zelda.

  • @gacharandom6087
    @gacharandom6087 Před rokem +5

    Game theory actually made a video on the Zelda timeline a few years back, and i believe it still holds up, it also makes some things clearer and understandable

    • @NoxWyatt
      @NoxWyatt Před rokem +1

      Eh. There’s better theorists out there now who’ve done the same thing.

  • @dragontamer6498
    @dragontamer6498 Před rokem

    I LOVED THIS VIDEO SOOOOO MUCH!!! Plz do it again sometime

  • @cool3dd
    @cool3dd Před rokem +2

    Patterrz you need to review more games timelines of the leaderboards channel this was hilariously awesome 🤣

  • @arieldougan2021
    @arieldougan2021 Před rokem +2

    A Link Between Worlds was the First Zelda game that I played and is one of my favourites, beside Majorca’s Mask and Ocarina of Time

  • @samsung70346
    @samsung70346 Před 3 měsíci

    11:55 I think it's worth mentioning that when HoT went back to the child timeline he took the triforce of courage with him. Or rather it stayed but for some reason broke into pieces like in windwaker (Adult timeline) but he still had it as a child because "bringing it with him" caused the triforce in the past to automatically scatter to their chosen bearers so it's not even in the sacred realm. This is What we see in Twilight Princess when they try to execute Ganondorf and he randomly gets the triforce of power (Child timeline)

  • @AtomBacon
    @AtomBacon Před rokem +3

    I would love to see this kind of reaction to the Metroid Timeline. Its not as convoluted but its still interesting.

  • @kevintan5497
    @kevintan5497 Před rokem +2

    the newer the game the more it actually fits into the timeline since they actually already started a timeline, the older the game the less it makes any sense

  • @matt4200
    @matt4200 Před 11 měsíci

    Love how Patterz can think of the knowledge of the curse being lost through thousands and thousands of years

  • @TheAlexandrine
    @TheAlexandrine Před 9 měsíci +1

    "wish to the curse to be broken" brother most links and zeldas don't know the curse even exists

  • @bobherobrine3415
    @bobherobrine3415 Před rokem +3

    Subnoodle just sits there...menacingly

  • @braydenbanks4228
    @braydenbanks4228 Před rokem +1

    So I don't know how popular this fan theory is, but there is a fan Theory that Hyrule Warriors is where the timelines merged to possibly create Breath of the Wild's Hyrule. However, since Hyrule Warriors was made by Koei Tecmo, Team Ninja, and Omega Force instead of Nintendo, it is not officially considered Canon to the Zelda timeline.

  • @Avathestarwarrior
    @Avathestarwarrior Před rokem +2

    Mario Lore: Pretty much the same plot of Mario trying to save a Princess from Bowser.
    Zelda Lore: Has Time traveling and sometimes have the games timeline mixed.
    Kirby Lore: Characters are cute, music is a banger, and final boss lore is deep and dark.
    Pokemon Lore: POKEDEX

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 Před rokem +1

    All these pronunciations of my childhood villain names will give me a hernia I swear

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 Před rokem +1

    Ngl watching this reaction video was pretty cool but very confusing but yeah great patterz video
    Hope you have a great day

  • @Naxal710
    @Naxal710 Před rokem +10

    Would absolutely recommend playing breath of the wild. It is an absolute gem, and now Would be the perfect time since the sequel is just around the corner!

  • @gwentastic269
    @gwentastic269 Před rokem +2

    From my limited understanding, the Master Sword is supposed to consume away the evil that is sealed within it.
    Which might also be the reason why the Master Sword weakens over time, hence why it needs to be charged in some of the titles.
    Ganon(dorf) having the triforce of power probably prolongs it just a tiny bit.

  • @aSh-pi1in
    @aSh-pi1in Před rokem +2

    15:10 I don't have knowledge about the Zelda lore and timeline, however I've heard that Ganondorf names himself

    • @calebgoodman3028
      @calebgoodman3028 Před rokem

      Not entirely true... we don’t know who named him. Then again Ganondorf may be the only male Gerudo name since they are only born every hundred years. Going on a tangent here, the Gerudo rely on finding boyfriends with the Hylians in neighboring lands to reproduce... which I believe is just the series way of saying these warrior women rely on prostitution to survive. They even have a religion that forbids men (besides their king) from entering their lands unless they have permission.

  • @IKMcGwee
    @IKMcGwee Před rokem +1

    Oh man, LoZ OoAges is my first Zelda too! I loved it so much I bugged my mom for Seasons too. They still are my favorite ones.

  • @lauziyi5728
    @lauziyi5728 Před 2 měsíci

    Everyone: GAN-on-dorf
    Patterrz: Ga-NON-dorf

  • @Jehayland
    @Jehayland Před rokem +1

    Majora’s mask as really good “filler” is so accurate 😂

  • @ellisp276
    @ellisp276 Před rokem +3

    24:29 link did not know there was a curse 🐵🐵🐵

  • @Hamantha
    @Hamantha Před rokem +1

    Gorons are indeed a force of nature

  • @EpiclyEpicGamer
    @EpiclyEpicGamer Před rokem +2

    you should watch chase kips videos about different timelines, they're very good, like for example the pokemon timeline one

  • @DissedRedEngie
    @DissedRedEngie Před rokem

    Ok, tbf about termina. Link goes to some woods, a couple of fairies steal his ocarina, he then jumps inside a tree and basically Alice in wonderland happens.

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 Před rokem +5

    Honestly I spend too much time learning the lore of video games just so I can laugh at people who get confused by it. From zelda to kingdom hearts

  • @timemonkey
    @timemonkey Před rokem

    Link turns into a pink bunny when he enters the Sacred Realm because entering the Realm causes people to assume a form that reflects what's in their hearts. Since most people who enter the Realm are either greedy or power hungry seeking the triforce for selfish gains they end up as monsters.
    The Triforce might be able to break the curse if someone wished for it but that would require the wielder to actually know the curse is in place.
    Sealing actually works pretty well, when your enemies constantly reincarnate sealing them away is more effective than just killing them. That's why they only had to deal with Ganon a few times per timeline rathe than every few decades.

  • @rhettguthrie1998
    @rhettguthrie1998 Před rokem +1

    Now u need to see the solving the zelda timeline on polygon. It's a great video

  • @Dennzyl
    @Dennzyl Před rokem +1

    Nintendo NEVER could have imagined or planned that they would still make "The Legend of Zelda" entries to this day,
    so the "complete timeline", characters and events obviously cant make sense in every way,
    ! BUT ! the "complete history" spans over thousands, ten thousands, maybe hundred thousands of years,
    and like in our real world history, some informtion about specific happenings just got lost to time
    or were passed down in a slightly exaggerated or wrong way, and this kinda is what makes the "complete timeline" so intriguing.
    there is a great sense of mystery JUST BECAUSE you cant explain everything!
    but of course, its so much fun and so interessting, trying to wrap your head around on what and how things happened in this universe.

  • @PhantomsnowAlexa
    @PhantomsnowAlexa Před rokem +3

    The Zelda series is by far my favorite video game series. 12:06 never underestimate the power of the Lost Woods.

  • @WasephWastar
    @WasephWastar Před 4 měsíci +1

    2:12
    what is showed in the game is the bare minimum of what we are told. every towns in the games have like 5 to 20 people living there, but in reality they are hundreds of people. same for most video games actually. skyrim, for exemple. you go to what is supposed to be the capital of the country, but there's only a few houses. in the lore they are thousands of people living in that city

  • @jenarogonzalez5151
    @jenarogonzalez5151 Před rokem

    I knkw this video is 8 months old my man but i can explain it in an esy way also i love your voice haha

  • @TopOfAllWorlds
    @TopOfAllWorlds Před rokem +4

    Breath of the Wild's Zelda is highkey just as strong, if not stronger, than Link. Honestly, that's probably why Gannon takes her all the time instead of link.

  • @cameronreitmaier9334
    @cameronreitmaier9334 Před rokem

    There’s a few game theory episode that talk about the Zelda timeline and there’s one you should watch where they talks about how a non cannon game should be cannon to the timeline cause it links all the timelines together before Breath of the wild happens in the timeline
    It’s called “Game Theory Dear Nintendo i fixed your timeline”

  • @supfrag5503
    @supfrag5503 Před rokem

    Finally someone did an reaction of this video

  • @astonishinglyastrid
    @astonishinglyastrid Před rokem +6

    You should definitely stream some Zelda games, it’s a fun time without back seating that is

  • @aetheralmeowstic2392
    @aetheralmeowstic2392 Před rokem

    Oh, _Breath of the Wild_ now canonically re-converges all 3 timelines.

  • @theregularterrarian3933
    @theregularterrarian3933 Před rokem +1

    can't wait to seal an evil demon king in a sword again

  • @MothcatAsh
    @MothcatAsh Před rokem

    32:30 i havent thought of that yet. that botw 2 villain isnt just again ganondorf, because botw 1 was just ganon, so it makes sence that botw 2 has ganondorf as villain

  • @yoshikiharo1020
    @yoshikiharo1020 Před rokem

    Mattpat already figured out the Zelda Timeline

  • @cosmiccat4706
    @cosmiccat4706 Před rokem

    So my theory as to where BotW falls on the timeline is that it's in a 4th timeline created from the Ocarina of Time ending where you defeat Ganondorf, but in this 4th timeline Zelda doesn't send Link back into the past instead he ends up staying and living his life in the adult timeline as the Hero of Time.
    This could potentially explain why all the references to the downfall and adult timeline are, but also why the kingdom hasn't outright fallen apart.

  • @rougedruidlexi7543
    @rougedruidlexi7543 Před rokem +1

    It's actually been confirmed that breath of the wild is the last in the time-line so far and connects all three routes.

    • @wayland513
      @wayland513 Před rokem +1

      While yes it's confirmed that BOTW is at the end, it's not confirmed that it links everything.

  • @finalbossgamer5481
    @finalbossgamer5481 Před 11 měsíci

    I have been a fan of zelda my whole life. And the way he says Ganondorf makes me want to cry.

  • @matalvis
    @matalvis Před rokem

    24:21
    To be fair, only Ganondorf (btw, you say his name wrong. Gan-nun-dorf. Hard name.) remembers his past lives, since Demise is a part of him. It would never cross Link and Zelda's minds to wish away a curse they know nothing about. Every time they reincarnate, they are basically going in blind.

  • @perfumedgnat9659
    @perfumedgnat9659 Před rokem

    There would be no seven year timeloop because in Ocarina of Time, Link basically did not exist for seven years. After he gets sent back to live life as a child, he immediately tells the king that Ganondorf is evil and uses the Triforce of Courage to prove his trustworthiness
    Edit: also Skyward Sword Link decided to conveniently forget about the curse as soon as he heard it

  • @H3y_Im_Rob
    @H3y_Im_Rob Před rokem +1

    "What dictates Wisdom?"
    ...the Goddesses, obviously.
    "Oooohhhhh! THIS Zelda came from the original Zelda whose actually a Goddess!"
    Yeah, it's called "Reincarnation." Each Zelda, Link, and Ganon are reincarnations of The Goddess who took on a mortal form, The first Hero, and The Demon King.

  • @wenexplosion5538
    @wenexplosion5538 Před rokem +2

    My guy assumes link and zelda even know about the curse in the first place.

  • @SerephFreya
    @SerephFreya Před rokem

    Your take on majoras mask is 100% accurate XD

  • @eleanorv3754
    @eleanorv3754 Před rokem +1

    There were some mistakes in the timeline video like how they say the Master Sword was unmoved from the Era of the Sky to the Era of the Hero of Time. The Forgotten Temple/ Sealed Temple is different from the Temple of Time, so the Master Sword must have been moved.

  • @roryscott2290
    @roryscott2290 Před rokem

    Watching this during school.

  • @gamingpandaboy
    @gamingpandaboy Před rokem

    I love how she anticipated that people would ask if fashiontopia was really or canon 😂

  • @husseinrose4883
    @husseinrose4883 Před rokem +2

    The timeline is actually very easy to understand if you play the games

  • @Chris-gx1ei
    @Chris-gx1ei Před rokem

    By Pulling the Master Sword Link wouldn't release the Demon King Demise, because his remainings decayed within the sword, so Demise is already gone for good.
    So it's actually a good thing that Demise got sealed in the Master Sword

  • @wintersong2266
    @wintersong2266 Před rokem

    You should do a let's play series of you experiencing the Zelda series for the first time.

  • @HeatherHylia
    @HeatherHylia Před rokem +1

    I forgot how confusing it was lmao I guess you get used to it after a couple years though. But the thing im interested in is how AOC fits into the timeline. If botw 2 mentions that the Sidon, Teba, Riju and Yunobo went back 100 years then my brain will be fried 😅