🔥 Simon Jordan & Graeme Souness CLASH over the Media's treatment of England and Gareth Southgate
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- England lost 1-0 to Italy on Friday in the Nations League. talkSPORT's Sam Matterface, Simon Jordan and Graeme Souness discuss!
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When they beat Spain 3-2 in the same competition it was hailed as a huge result but now when they're losing in the competition it is just glorified friendlies.
GOATED COMMENT!!
It was a huge result and we played very well that day, nearly 4 years ago now. Anyone calling these glorified friendlies are idiots, these are important games, and whether or not fans think they’re glorified friendlies, the players will certainly be taking them seriously, and this years nations league’s results and the performances England have shown are pathetic and worrying, just like the Spain result was a huge result and brilliant
Also the semi final in Portugal when 3 out of the 4 stands was entirely full of England fans and everyone was buzzing but now we're doing awful in it it's like what you've pointed out about it being dismissed
England will never progress to their potential with a manager like Southgate. Players and management team need to look at themselves. Simón's right, favourable draws previously. England would've won the euros if the leash had been taken off. So defensive and careful, not good enough. Get a decent manager in - look at the England women's team!!
He's a box ticker poster boy of ₩0k€
and it totally makes sense, because these games are glorifies friendlies, but beating Spain counts even in those
Simon & Graeme going on about “The Media” supporting the team.
They are The Media 🤣
They aren’t journalists. They’re just pundits.
@@TapesProductions They're still the media? They don't say journalists they say media which includes them.
@@TapesProductions you telling me Graeme Souness has never written a column for any paper or news website?
They answer questions not ask them. They don't set the agenda of the day. Big difference.
@@hfwwf which means they say exactly what they want in response to the questions. Come on man, they're as selectively critical as the media too and have a right to be, just whinging about the media is silly from them
Souness's assertion that "the players aren't at it" because these games are just glorified friendlies falls down in any analysis due to the simple fact they are equally glorified friendlies for England's opponents.
If both sets of players are equally uninterested, yet England can't win a game or score a goal from open play, then something is obviously going very wrong within the England camp.
Italy are not in the World Cup, Hungary are not in the World Cup
Even the Premier league is a joke this year,
Are you telling me, that you think football is played like a 100 meter sprint final ?
That every player as every moment is putting in 100% effort and concentration
Thats what's called delusional
All people assess the situation to determine how much RISK they are going to put thier body through to achieve a goal
And trust me that the biggest Risk are taken for the biggest rewards
Not for Friendlies
@@gratefulkm What on earth are you waffling on about? What's with the odd non sequiturs and straw man fallacies?
Did you purposefully ignore the clear point I made in order to embark on a bizarre rant, or is that your usual modus operandi?
@@danielmason4251 Personal risk vs reward
Hungary and Italy aren’t in the World Cup though so it isn’t the same for them. Do you think our players care more about the nations league or their domestic competitions and the World Cup? The majority of them are playing in Europe as well so they’re not going to go out and risk injury with a packed season ahead are they?
@@gratefulkm Again, that is a bizarre non sequitur; it has nothing to do with the point I made
Maybe you just struggle with basic reading comprehension?
As soon as Souness says 'let me give you an example', I know I'm about to nod off into a deep sleep.
And just when you think he's finished he says "I'll come back to...."
Was only staying awake to see how Souness managed to blame Pogba for all the problems Southgate is facing! LOL.
"I go back to it " 😴😴😴😴😂😂😂
Southgate said he wouldn’t outstay his welcome. He’s already doing that
Southgate is second best England manager ever.
🤣🤣
@@braindonor8753 You need a brain donor for sure. He is worse than Graham Taylor, how he did not reach the World Cup final despite the by, beaten by a country that didn't exist until the mid 90s who had about 4 players who were decent and then to top it off he gets beaten by an Italian side with no stars despite another by to the final and the highest valued squad in world football history(Deloitte). Mancini outclassed him and showed up how tactically inept he is. He is even worse as a manager than he was as a player(ask a boro fan) its a flip between Gareth and Michael Ricketts as Englands Sh*ttest ever player. Why won't he just go away?? he is like a disease, not wanted as a player he forced his way into the euro 2000 squad as a midfielder through his free mason contacts, needless to say England got knocked out in the group. Missed the pen in 96 when it should have been Keown or Bruce wearing that shirt or even young Rio but never Gareth the mid table yard dog who never played a champs league game in his career. Did Fergie, Wenger or any other top manager ever try and sign him? Its not what you can do with a ball but what you do with others balls that matters. Masonic favors thats all it is.
@killwill83 do you honestly think we have a chance of winning? We’re about to waste 4 years and a squad in their prime
@@mikeb3018 He has earned this World cup, he done better than Sven, with a worse team. Sven couldnt get past quarters with the so called generation
I'm not sure what Graeme expects. We haven't scored from open play in over 7hrs and keep losing 😂 what does he expect the back pages to say? "unlucky lads, you'll get them next time"
Yeah, he doesn't make any sense here. Obviously observations are made after every match. What are we meant to do, pretend we played great attacking football & won a match when we did neither. He's just another bitter Scotsman sadly. He wishes they could have standards as high as ours..
People were calling for Southgate out as soon as the tournament ended... Bloke has exceeded every England manager for 50 years, let the bloke get on with his job and if we flop in Qatar then he can go.. What's all the fuss about..
@@SueMyChin to avoid a flop in Qatar so they won’t have to wait another 4 years…🤷♀
@@alibakhsheshi9164 we didn't flop in the last tournament though did we? Given the history of England managers for over 50 years what are the chances that the next guy is any better?
Scored 3 last night and didn’t lose
Graeme saying we shouldn't be criticizing is hilarious to me,i meant it's him.
Hes gone 'woke'😆
Paul Pogba??? 👀
English managers always seem to revert to the same trap. They get attached to players and club form goes out the window. Dropping high profile players becomes unthinkable and form is irrelevant.
You make a valid point.
More or less every manager in every sport falls in to the trap of having their undroppable favourites, after they've been in charge of a team for a while, it's just more noticeable in high profile jobs such as the England manager. Of course, they aren't referred to as favourites, they are instead routinely referred to as having the manager's trust.
There’s no problem in keeping their favourites when it’s worked in the past. People shouldn’t have a problem with Maguire or Pickford starting games because they’ve done it before. The problem comes in when players like Tomori or Maddison don’t even get a chance to show what they can do as well
@@jakeclough8090 well said
Its a double edged sword i think. If they dont pick the regulars and lose they will get hammered even more. Its a safety net to pick the stalwarts but i you are right they need to be braver.
Southgtes is a championship league level coach 😄
He would struggle there.
I dont think any championship fans would be overjoyed if Sputhgate was appointed manager...
Except maybe watford who just let anyone have ago.
how about lower. like scottish second division
Completely disagree, he isn’t even a manager of any decent level, he belongs as a director of football rather than a manager. Or a head of development
Is he that good ?
Southgate doesn't like creative players, or players being creative.
A guess but I doubt he likes creative people in general
7 defensive players at home to Hungary tells a story
He likes dribblers and those.players who can run all over the pitch the whole day.
Does any England manager?
everyone is supporting england, what graemes trying to say is we shouldn’t be criticising them, which is nonsense
I don't think that's the problem. I think the English media makes out the team is a good chance to win the world cup and treats the players as failures when they lose. But the fact is England are a quarter final side. Semis would be an exceptionally good tournament for them. Just depends on how long until they meet one of the REAL big boys. Winning it is highly unlikely. They would need a lot of luck for that. Really a lot of luck.
Hes a scot trolling england.
@Tidan888 Look at the back four pal.
@Tidan888 None of that reflects the ability of the players in the team. It's more a reflection of poor financial discipline in English football, and a couple easy draws in the last 2 tournaments. Be honest. If you compare England's squad to the other nations it's not in the top 4. That makes them a quarter final team.
@@adtastic1533 I think the issue comes from the way we're playing though. We do have attacking quality and Bellingham and Rice is a good midfield two, but then we got spanked by Hungary and then created nothing against Italy. I do agree semis is an excellent World Cup, but God we set up so negatively, we have no chance
I feel sorry for Simon having to share space with these two muppets.
"I am now fortunate that sadly I am in my 50s"
Stunning words
He takes money to lose , what a traitor
The reason a lot of English fans and media get on the team's back is they know how good they SHOULD be, but they constantly flatter to decieve. They let fans down. The Scottish, Northern Irish fans etc don't do this as much as they know they have very little quality and will more or less never win a tournement. You can't let fans down when you know you're dreadful. Quite a difference. The criticism is because the fans and media DO have belief in what this team can do given the right coaching. It's decades of frustration.
Nah England aren’t that god and never were. We got lucky getting to the final before we played a decent team last time and it flattered us. We aren’t really that good but the English media always thinks they are. Build them up and tear them down, it makes good copy and sells advertising which is what they’re all about
Dry little quality most of them play in premiership lol. Greatest league in the world. Lol
I'm at that point now that nothing Simon Jordan says can be wrong to me. Man is always on point
Good words from Souness. They are friendlies!! Get behind the boys! 🏴
There is 0 chance Toney, Tomori, Maddison, Sancho etc. wouldn’t be at if they were given a chance to play in the last game or 2 before a World Cup when they’d want to make a claim to start - starting guaranteed players to be on that plane probably isn’t helping. All comes down to team & squad selection ultimately.
Bang on, if players aren't at it - it's because they've been allowed to feel too comfortable. There is zero chance that a player like Toney, Abraham, Tomori takes these games anything but 100% seriously... but again Southgate has made a rod for his own back by picking his mates despite their poor club form
What do they want the fans to do? Shall we all say: “Southgate is the new Johan Cruyff. The football is absolutely amazing, total football and exciting. We’re scoring goals for fun and even though we’ve been relegated, I’m 100% certain we’re gonna win the World Cup with this master tactician”?
😂
Watching England is like watching Forest under Chris Houghton and Warburton. Boring and safe but eventually the wheels come off and people get fed up of watching boring football. Results aren't everything, it's the performance. Football is entertainment at the end of the day
Ofc results are everything. Let’s say we managed to win the World Cup by winning every game 1-0 and playing it safe I very much doubt people are going to care that much about the performances.
@@davidmorgan4541 really? You've not watched enough shite football yet. Best tune in tonight's game for some more
@@davidmorgan4541 the time for England to win has unfortunately passed. Last Euros and WC was a great opportunity as rivals were a lot weaker and now with everyone strengthening, the task has become almost impossible. How can you have players who play in attacking systems week in week out play boring 5ATB with 2 cdms, deep line and counter attacking with Harry Kane at the top of your line? This squad is creative up top and requires a manager who clears the slow deadwood up and focus on the future which is attack.
Nobody was talking about performances before the final. Nobody would have been talking about them afterwards if we were better at penalties either. They only play 10 games a year.. what a stupid comment.
@@SueMyChin like how you talk on behalf everyone. You sound like a guy who would like Serie A. You saying not one would complain if every game in the Prem had one or less goals in every game as long as their team won..... What a stupid comment 🤣
This is nothing new .since England won the world cup 500 years ago we've never heard the end of it .
A couple of semi final and final games and all of a sudden England are the best team in the world with world class players .
It's boring .
😂😂😂
How long have we he heard about euro 96 when england got to the semis of a 16 team tournament on home soil , and this is seen as a major success, you think in germany so many documentarys or it being spoken of would be done ?
Hard to fathom that a national team player would not be "at it" in front of 90,000 fans at Wembley.
If I’m playing FIFA against my 14 year old son I’m making sure I’m winning that game 5-0 at least. You can’t claim it’s a friendly when the other team sends 4 goals past you and everyone should accept that.
What type of kid at 14 losses to his dad at fifa. He should be peaking at that age and winning 10-0
When they beat Spain 3-2 in the same competition it was hailed as a huge result but now when they're losing in the competition it is just glorified friendlies.
@@balf1111117373 true. 14 is peak fifa age
@@cherries4life387 yeah but there are parents of 14 year olds who have been playing fifa since it came out.
It’s not like us playing against our parents 😂
@@balf1111117373 probably coz his dad is a 28 yr old😂
Virtually all England managers start heroes and end zeroes.....Its crazy....Graham is right and again this discussion is age old ...
Eddie Howe or Potter could walk into the England setup without any games or training sessions & do better than ShatGate!!
There's no games in the Prem while the WC is on, so why can't the FA drop them a few million to take over for a few weeks
I think there’s a bit more to the job mate lol
@@owenchapman3260 Yeah a bit more in the fact that Potter & Howe play week in & week out against these player's & know them inside out already & have to adjust their tactics accordingly to each game weekly against these player's....... 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
There's nothing more to it than that. They'd walk in & do a better job easily, like Stevie Wonder on his birthday after a few drinks
TAA:-
I think the formation graphic that comes up on the screen at the start of games have many completely befuddled.
Liverpool does not play 4-3-3 but 2CB-1-CDM-4M-3F; TAA and Robbo are essentially wide Midfielders in Klopps system with midfielders covering him whenever he goes forward.
Yes, he falls asleep defensively way too often but Liverpools tactics usually compensates for his defensive frailties. Unfortunately the Reds mids legs are 60% depreciated so they can’t keep up so he’s been exposed much more this season.
England does not play to his strength so he will never fit into their current system.
He is not a player to come on when you have something to hold onto but definitely the one to create for a target man, so you start him, get a goal or two then replace him with a more defensive minded player to see out the game.
The media defence of Wokegate is sickening. His CV is appalling his tactics are play the ball around the back 7 and hope the opposition fall asleep from boredom.
Wokegate is absolutely abysmal patter lol
@Jakub do u think it’s wokegate because he protects players from racial abuse. Because that is absolutely necessary in your psychotic country. Before these “fans” malign the players they should perhaps look within themselves. Also yes Southgate is bad at football tactics. He did what I did in FIFA put attackers at wingbacks and hoped that going wide will create counter attacking chances
@@chinmaypurohit3431 if this country is so psychotic and racist. Why are you here ? Do you live in England?
I am stealing that! Wokegate is a free mason, do some research and you will see why he played for and manages England despite never even playing for a Top club. He forced his way into the euro 2000 squad as a MIDFIELDER through his media freemason contacts and we go knocked out in the group. 6, say no more he was ahead of Keown, Rio, even Steve Bruce would have been way better. Phil Neville will be next manager so who cares if they sack one donkey for another. For the record my Mum could have manage England to the 2018 Word cup final and she died in 2017, it was a Fkn by!! A free pass, its Croatia!! They weren't even a country when Gazza cried and they have 4 players who are decent(all over 30) and they beat the highest valued squad in World football history(Deloitte).
Plenty of teams will "get behind us" in the world cup after they've had our pants down
Great stuff!!
It's the last game before the world cup!! How can players "not be at it"??!
Souness does not seem to realise that the way the nations league is set up, it now has a bigger effect on ranking and therefore seeding in groups. It is probably even more important for teams who are below the top two seeds in a qualifying group to do well in them - for example Scotland.
Most fans would just like to see the ball going forward more with some intent !
So two games before the World Cup, Souness is saying the players aren’t at it ? This is a joke for sure
Why Southgate has a deep affection for Maguire is beyond me.
I’m going to pick players on form he said.
Manure can’t even get in his clubs starting eleven !
He would struggle to get in any prem team as a first choice.
He has an affliction with Manchester clubs. He wouldn’t pick Grealish when he was on firm at Villa. Soon as he moves to City as a bench warmer, he’s in.
Southgate is an inept manager, relegated 5 times now. Crap.
Now the media is arguing that they don’t hype the England squad enough 😂😂😂😂 what a joke
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber
@@philbrainy2399 Yes Phil lad. Brainy by name Brainy by nature. Phil Brainy = Top LAD Proper Clobber
Don’t know anyone who loves to hear himself talk more than Simon. Sourness is 100% right
I get Souness' point but before the nations league England won the overwhelming majority of qualifiers and friendlies due to the fact they were playing sides below their level. Now we are playing teams that can really give us a game we are getting found out and called out.
Way to cautious, has the players to destroy teams. Never lets them play.
These are NOT friendlies they affect your rankings
Guys just a thought can agree to disagree but yeh maybe some big teams or players are maybe not at it but teams like Scotland hungry ireland Latvia etc etc this nations league is an opportunity for getting a play off spot before the competition starts so smaller teams are going to give it everything n maybe that's why there's some shock results but for football this is a great thing and to be honest that's football for you some hou win some you lose but I think personally As a footballer you try win every game but its impossible to sometimes always be at it every game
Graham the players arent at it, because Southgate never drops them, he uses the same core of players, so they dont need to be bang it! if southgate played some differentials, players like Gordon at everton (been playing well) Toney, tomori, mee, mings, see how they get on, gives them confidence, puts pressure on soutgate's core players!, I predict we will be in WC, last group game we need to win and drawing the game and he will throw on players who have no experience, had no runout for england and we will get knocked out!
we never play to our strengths, we are to cautious and predictable. Lets play our inform club players, if Tomori ripping it up in Italy then play him, unlucky maguire, play toney try him with kane (unlucky southgate will have to drop one of his favourites), play our quick players let the opposition deal with our pace, rather then us always play backward, sideways, back, sideways, then back to keeper who then kicks it out or we lose possession!!
As a foreigner, the expectations on England every tornament is outrageous. It's largely because of the premier league were English players are quoted as world class all the time. I think the way Southgate has approached the job has brought much needed measurement and takes out the hype associated and I think the players have performed much better.
As an Englishman I’ll say this, generally speaking we are flat track bullies and can perform well in the qualifiers but when it comes to the crunch in tournaments historically we have failed. Sometimes it’s been close on penalties but if you go by stature we are probably a regular quarter final team. We have a deep pool compared to some countries but I believe in my lifetime 2018 and 2020 were the big chances and England will never get that close again.
Yeah because they play scared all the time , boring safe football ,when it comes to playing big teams ,
Damn, it is exactly what happen in this world cup. The question is, how to change that mentality? How to make england have killer instinct againts proper opponent? They certainly have the players for it.
Get stuck in, Graeme!
At least tonight we'll have the same amount of strikers as we have goalies on the bench....couldn't say that against italy.
I agree with what grahams saying but southgates being told what we're not enjoying and doing it anyway. Being boring, defensive, almost completely ignoring flair players is just annoying everyone now. These games were glorified friendlies as Graham says, so why not use those games to at least show us why he doesn't use that type of player, if the result doesn't matter.
Agree. Nations league has been a boring competition so far.
I agree with the meaning of nations league, that's why the manager should start other players that is hungry
This is the best time for players on the fringe to show their worth, if a top player can't elevate himself to the occasion then get a player in with something to prove.
DENMARK, who a few years ago were torn apart by their media and the morale of the fans was at all time low, turned it around and now are being cheered like crazy, why because they have "overperformed" they have worked their socks off, and they have kept a fighting spirit, fans will back England as long as England are on the front foot and show exciting football
As a USMNT fan I was in the gutter after watching our recent performance in a friendly against Japan. It was dreadful. Then I saw England perform in a lackluster way for the 10th time in a row, WE HAVE A CHANCE BABY
we're both as bad as each other, i predict a 0-0 draw
It wouldn’t surprise me if you beat us. As a Leeds fan watching Aaronson and Adams scares me for the World Cup. They could rip our slow midfield to pieces if they play like they do at club level. It’s possible that England go out without scoring a goal it’s so bad at the moment.
The players should be at it. Surely they want to give themselves the best chance to be picked for international tournaments
Not according to Graeme. Apparently not trying in non-World Cup games is acceptable.
Fans pay good money watch them they expect them to be at it every time
You wouldn't mind them loosing these past few games if he had been testing different formations and trying new players out, but he's pretty much stuck with the last team he played.
Perhaps if the players arent at it as Souness thinks then maybe Southgate should pick players that are and want to prove they are good enough for the world cup squad. This is the last chance some of these players will have before the WC to show what they can do yet Southgate picks pretty much the same 11 as he always does so that tells you he isnt just treating these games as meaningless friendlies whether they are or not
all ive heard about this squad is the amount of depth we have, surely thats incentive enough to secure your place on the plane by as graeme says get at it
Ok I appreciate what Souness is saying but: 1) there is some incentives with this competition 2) what about when it matters such as Italy, not a great performance in the Final. 3) If Southgate had actually given an opportunity to more fringe players prior to a world cup, he likely would have got more out of the team.
UEFA nations league doesn't replace friendlies because now you can get relegated & your seed in groups will be lower. Imagine being in the same group with Germany, Spain & some other good nation team. How clueless.
Rob Edwards sacked Watford are a Joke!
News just in Bilic sacked !
Southgate is the wrong manager for England..
What about the Netherlands? They're in the World Cup, yet they're still taking the Nations League seriously, even beating Belgium yesterday in a meaningless game where they'd pretty much already won the group. So why is it only the England players who aren't "at it?"
The Dutch got to the finals of the last nation league and failed miserably at euro 2020 and Portugal who won the coveted nations league were a total flop as well. Maybe English supporters should focus on world cup more 🤔
@@gonzago1074 I imagine they'll focus on the World Cup when the World Cup happens, just as they're focusing on the Nations League as it's happening.
Nobody:
Souness: Pogba is to blame for all this madness
motivating the players is one of the manager's main responsibilities so "tHe PlAyErs ArE nOt At iT" is not a defense of the manager it is a condemnation
It’s no secret that leading up to tournaments the English media always pile on the pressure it’s always like two tournaments for you guys win the love of the media and then the actual tournament your playing in, but in saying that you are playing bad and if them players are seen these games as friendlys that’s a bad sign especially for the player not getting game time at their own clubs
I dont think you can turn results on and off just like that
You are representing your country so you bloody well should be 'at it' !
Did Graeme not watch Scotland and Ireland the other night? Great game and atmosphere and definitely wasnt viewed as a friendly by both Teams
Cos it was nations league and that's a good avenue to qualify for little teams
he said big countries
This was before Scotland had a great competitive week and gained advantages from good results in the nations league
Why does Matterface have to give his name before the ad break? 🤣
probably in his contract...
these "friendlies" double as WC warm up matches with only a couple months to go before the actual tournament
Mr Souness is right about the negativity we hold as a nation. Simon is also right to
say its justified.
Round in circles all the time
Graeme looking very stressed with Simon !
Well said, Graham 👏
9:20 - 9:34 Indeed.
Let's get behind the team when we threw away the world cup and euros...get battered by Hungary and the only goals we can score are penalties and free kicks along with playing San Marino every qualification boosting Kane's stats
Souness is the perfect foil to SJ
Graham Spurness opinions are opposite what everyone thinks it’s how he makes his money on controversial opinions
Southgate has managed to get the best England results since 1966.
Tbf we have got behind them the last 2 tournaments and done well.
Graeme Souness is right…….and whilst we could have done better in the nation’s league we now ALL need to look forward to the World Cup with positive support
Southgate is 100% to blame for not winning the final. Following a fast & menacing start which resulted in a deserved goal it was obvious he instructed his team to 'protect' their lead. England then played like frightened rabbits for the remaining 60 mins and were lucky to make it to extra time & penalties.
It was singularly the most embarrassing & cowardly game I have ever seen England take part in since the Graham Taylor days RIP 🙏
It wasn't like this when we went into the euros . This time the media have something.
Well they had the whole country behind them during the Euros and didn't appreciate it then but as soon as the drop in performance and there's criticism everyone starts playing the victim. 👊👊
As an Irish man find my Scottish cussin taking piss out of England find this hilarious
When you've got a bloke in charge who picks 12 defenders in a squad, and then plays a winger at left back. You've got serious problems.
Which also explains why this Premier league season is a joke
Because the top players are saving themselves for the world cup
It has always seemed to me that England players do not handle the pressure as well as other nations. It this because the media pressure is too great? Is it because the expectation is too great?
Remember don't forget to wear your wastecoats this winter 👍
You can only critique what we watch not the future and most will be behind their team before the game. They need the DNA to go for it in every game and comp, no walking :)
Friendlies or not. Play the players that want to break into the World Cup squad. If you play the majority of the starting 11 then you have to except its mot good enough. Graeme states the players aren't at it but the next 11 would be. To many potential gems not getting a shot.
England got a good backline and a very good front 3 but their midfield is straight garbage. Not surprised Southgate wants to plug the back and play on the counter. They ain't got the players to play a possession game against the top sides. I think a lot of England fans got ideas above their station due to a couple of tournaments where England got lucky with the draw and played one at home.
Scotlands performance against ukraine illustrates how mental attitude affects play very well. Pressure off , we play well, win easily. Pressure on and as usual, we flop.
It's been a problem for scots since, I'd say about the 15th century lol
This channel has proven that english media is insufferably cynical, they flop over if its not in the line of interests of england. Calling this a glorified friendly but when they beat spain it was like they won a world cup. Pathetic
Souness is right. The England fans and media are just too serious ffs, chill out and enjoy what is probably the best football that England have played , ever. They are a bloody great team ! So get behind them. And here's a tip..Football teams loose games, no matter how good they are.
This situation is NO DIFFERENT than Ole Gunner Solskjaer's time at United. It's ok to observe absolute garbage from your team and from the manager and call them out. Why would you blindly get behind a team and a manager that hasn't scored since World War II? Gareth Southgate picks the players, picks the lineups, devises the shape of the team and chooses the tactics. He picks Harry Maguire. He picks Jarrod Bowen over Sancho and Rashford. He needs to be held accountable.
I dont remember the media turning on them before the EUROs, probably because they were performing lol
It’s just not friendlies. It’s games to get ready for the World Cup.
Souness is so dull. Does he not realise he is in the media as well. also, people in the media are just giving their opinions on southgate good or bad. If talksport was full of hosts just saying “we have to support gareth and the team” then no one would tune in ffs 😂
But they decide the pots for the next Euro draw based on finishing position in this competition now so they aren't playing for nothing. The format does indeed favor the top 10 finishing teams (
"Element of" is always used by Simon for thinking time
To be fair you should be for any international v Italy or Germany