How To Stop A Double Leg Takedown-Core JKD Clinch Takedown Defense
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Ming shows you how to defend a single or double leg takedown attempt with boxing.
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great one when both your hands are down! love the incorporation of the attack from the side.
when hands are up i personally prefer the gravity assist to come down on them with a hammerfist to the back of the head/neck or between the shoulder blades while spreading at least one leg back. ellbow to the same targets works just like a charm too. obviously illegal in mma. hard to train with a partner but we found a little workaround: smashing thrown watermelons and cracking them before they even hit the ground is so satisfying :) but i guess a medicine ball would work too.
Love your videos as always. Glad I stumbled on this one as I was curious about your approach to take-downs. I like this technique with the whip strike [silat perhaps?]; I never considered this approach, but slapping hands and palm strikes are devastating [from experience] it should work quite well if done with precision and focus, though we likely do need to gain a little distance by shifting as they shoot [?]. It reminds me of the Wing Chun uppercut technique which is more of a guard-breaking constant power iron bar strike than a whip strike or "boxing" uppercut [if we use the spine rotation/hip swivel with rising energy].
Your variation is quick and should disorient the person, especially if you hit certain vital points. Though even the Wing Chun displacing, turning elbow in Chum Kiu is very effective if our stance is proper and we keep our spine straight with proper pivoting. I've always had better luck dropping and sinking as they approach and actually cutting the distance with a turning elbow.
Another method using Wing Chun principles: The hammer-fist ["hatchet" strike] on the clavicle or side/back of head is very effective coupled with pivoting off the forward leg and "dropping", sinking in a relaxed fashion [which also causes a violent hip turn, rotation away from the take-down attempt]. It sounds like a shotgun on a medicine ball or floor pad or wall bag. Hit the right areas with intent and using the pressure points, they will drop like Askren did when kneed in the same area by Maisvadal. But the dropping hatchet strike is quicker for me and for some reason [body mechanics, perhaps] it reaches insane power with little "effort" while not subjecting the hand to fracture as if done properly.
However, it can cause severe injury to training partners, so it should be practiced with care [and thick protective gear..]. The trick is learning to feel the hip swivel with the drop/pendulum "fall" off the forward leg [as the same-side hand cuts downward at a 45 degree angle to center]. Even off a jab we can shift and accelerate quickly into a strike from this position. And wrestlers like to use a poor man's Tok Sao off a jab for entry [learning how to "connect" mass to our elbow and dropping easily mitigates this technique in reality, but I like waving them in for the strike], so it sets them up nicely at times, though it can be done with either hand by shifting, swiveling.
I think people often make too much of take-downs in "real life" because MMA protects wrestlers and gives them a significant advantage as targets behind the head and other effective techniques are illegal [same, but to a much greater degree with boxing]. If one knows how to strike [or palm strike behind the head even], then the take-down often is very dangerous if missed [or even once landed]. Hell, just learning how to sink with our elbows connected to center mass usually drops the opponent quickly.
My 11 year old daughter trains at a BJJ/Karate/wrestling/MMA etc dojo and once I showed her limited Wing Chun fending techniques, she's the one student consistently not taken down even by the teachers [usually transitioning well to an armbar or throw]; she constantly unbalances their center and they can't get "in". For her peers, she simply doesn't go down unless they are "drilling" [meaning she lets them take her down so she can practice hip bridging and BJJ].
Note: I forbid all [when she's in her dojo] Wing Chun strikes, pressure points, or elbows, just the basic shapes of Siu Nim Tao for the BJJ fending/wrestler's grab interplay; I was actually shocked at how quickly she implemented these things to the point where no one could take her balance. We Chi Sao and train full Wing Chun and pressure point striking separately. However, I want her to learn other styles as well for herself and without the "filter" or fallback of Wing Chun because all martial arts are wonderful and I never had the chance to learn more of the Japanese styles [other than Aikido and some Kempo].
Either way, interesting new wrinkle. I admit I often have some trouble with JKD elements as I am more comfortable closing than in the distance or pendulum game. I understand range, but it's very difficult to overcome my instincts to close, and take center for control or pressure point knockdown, finish, arm bar etc...
Thank you.
Nice leading hip pop to whip the power into the hand - similar to throwing a discus up into the opponent's head.
You got it. Thanks for the comment
Cool!
Thank you
wouldn't you be opening up your hips to the take-down like if he can take a punch and he's heavy it won't stop momentum
Thank you for your question. I really can't state this enough: you really have to try this on yourself to fully understand its impact and potential.
Remember, this is something that can be done when you don't have time to react and get a good sprawl in. An unconscious (or stunned) person slamming into you will always cause you to have to deal with your base and where you go after an attack. That's why we train vs resisting opponents. That's how anyone can find out what actually works and what doesn't. We have methods and training for dealing with such happenings, it's what we do at Core JKD. We just can't show everything in a 3-5 min clip on CZcams, people don't have the time for that. That's also why we have our detailed videos on gumroad.com/corejkd and have our member site being tested now for release to the public soon.
I have never seen this defense in a MMA match also if it is legal. Why? Sprawls and arm stops are the standards in ufc matches....
There are other things you also don't see, like proper head cover and evasion vs boxing, elbows, or kicks. Some are trained for it, others aren't, and the deficiencies become clearer when you see the knockouts. 3 possible reasons: 1) the person doesn't know about it 2) the person knows about it, but doesn't train it 3) the person knows about it and trains it, but trains it poorly through improper methods where it doesn't work for him or her. And thus, doesn't use it.