10 Tips for Wide Panels that Stay FLAT

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024

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  • @woodwhisperer
    @woodwhisperer  Před 4 lety +17

    Have a tip not covered in the video? Share it here!

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners Před 4 lety +7

      Trick I was told by a old furniture builder in my youth. Hand pressure the glue surfaces together, hold and wait a few seconds and then pull them apart, wait a few seconds and then clamp up . Don't know if it was true then or now with modern glues but, he said when you pull them apart you cause a flash -off of gas and air flush jump starting the curing and blow off a significant about of moisture of the glue and then clamping up gives a quicker and better(?) curing. You ever hear that?
      You did not review the latest thing...4 way bar clamps, auto-centering of pressure. Easy DIY custom made sizing as required. Could have some thin wedges on hand for under the bars to bias position a work piece if required.
      I made a small about 30 inch set (3) and some hardwood flooring as a test panel, 15-ish inched wide . Worked great.

    • @chrisvanmill6020
      @chrisvanmill6020 Před 4 lety +4

      Make sure to always have nerdy memorabilia in your shop! A Happy shop is a Nerdy shop.

    • @tenaciousjeebs
      @tenaciousjeebs Před 4 lety +3

      @@MrBonners Some instant-hold adhesives recommend the same thing so I don't think it's limited to older glue types.

    • @MrBonners
      @MrBonners Před 4 lety +1

      @@tenaciousjeebs this was when there was pretty much only basic epoxy, yellow and hide available to the consumer, woodworker hobbyist.

    • @ckent1975fm
      @ckent1975fm Před 4 lety +6

      Just the tip.....?

  • @echtervogel
    @echtervogel Před 4 lety +80

    That fact about narrower panels needing more clamps blew my mind. It explains so much! Thanks for that!

  • @navardal
    @navardal Před 4 lety +45

    You're the premium youtube creator in woodworking.... There's a lot of good channels that covers topics in a more than adequate way but then you release a video and we all realize how it should have been done.... Good work man!

  • @marthag8888
    @marthag8888 Před rokem +2

    I’m still pretty new to woodworking and have recently decided to do it more often. I’ve had a few questions that I would normally ask my dad, but he passed away last year. When I stumbled across this video, it was such a comfort to know there’s someone else out there who can teach me these things since my dad can’t. Thank you

  • @jonathanwiggill8242
    @jonathanwiggill8242 Před rokem +2

    Learned more watching just half of this video than I did watching twenty full videos on other channels! You are a fine teacher sir!

  • @theosmits1141
    @theosmits1141 Před 4 lety +21

    This video is so educational its like something you would have to pay for. Really good stuff

  • @williambutler3695
    @williambutler3695 Před 4 lety +10

    This is one of your most educational videos. That diagram with the 45* clamping pressure was fantastic and your explanation of sanding before glue fully dries was revealing. This video was definitely worth 15 minutes of my time.

  • @TapiocaSteam
    @TapiocaSteam Před 4 lety +7

    Not sure if I have just missed it in previous videos, but I love the fact that you have "Back to the Future" memorabilia in the back. The Mayor Goldie Wilson and the OUTATIME license plate are great! I always love the information you give and you keep it interesting.

  • @RyanWattersRyanWatters
    @RyanWattersRyanWatters Před 2 lety +4

    Anyone else watch videos like this and get envious of anyone with that many parallel clamps? Those things aren’t cheap…

  • @lesstovall4814
    @lesstovall4814 Před 3 lety +3

    This is a PhD. course in gluing. Bravo sir.

  • @OneManBandWoodworks
    @OneManBandWoodworks Před 4 lety +9

    The tenth tip was one I worked out over time and frustration of having to re-sand already finished table tops, then I ran my palm over a few commercially made tables in shops and found the same issue so I felt better.

  • @n8sot
    @n8sot Před 3 lety +1

    Wow!!!! This was the most informative 15 minutes!!!!! All the hours upon hours of other vids, don't come close to what I just got out of this one 15 min vid!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!

  • @markblanchard5228
    @markblanchard5228 Před 3 lety +1

    I have watched countless videos and have never signed in. Had to do it for your channel to say Thank you! By far one of the best woodworking channels on the Tube. I have learnt so much from your videos. Keep up the great work!

  • @UberSlop
    @UberSlop Před 4 lety +5

    Marc, I'll have to watch this a second time, I didn't absorb anything you said. All I could think about is The Z-Man Sandwich at Joe's Bar-B-Que. Next time you're in Kansas City, you and your posse indulge in a casual BBQ feast, curated by me. Burnt ends appetizer's at WOODYARD BAR-B-QUE, a fourth-generation barbecue joint that's also a working wood yard cutting & selling hickory, oak, apple, cherry, pecan and more to surrounding pitmasters since 1913. Then, swing thru Boulevard Brewing Co.'s beer hall to cleanse pallets with fresh, flavorful drafts including seasonal offerings and unreleased test beers, en route to the mecca of mid-west BBQ deliciousness, Joes KC. 100% my treat! (great video, i had a 'light bulb' moment when you described keeping track of layout jointing faces of two boards to be glued together)

  • @l.rod2827
    @l.rod2827 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks for the information, very useful... I'm relatively a new wood worker and about to do my very first glue up of probably the worst type of lumber material, construction lumber 2x6. The worst part is I don't have a jointer, but do have a planner. I did run the boards through the planner on a piece of very straight 3/4" mdf board applying small shims and hot glue anywhere the 2x6 board were raised. Took a bit of work but got it pretty darn flat. What I didn't do was count the times I ran them through the planner after I removed the 2x6 from the MDF boards and ended up taking measurements until they were all the same thickness ( I'll be counting in the future). Another problem was each board (4ea) is 60" long, and in order to joint the edge I had to use my longest level as a straight edge against my table saw fence. That was also tricky and took a little effort until I got the hang of it. I did pick the straightest boards and made sure there were no pits. I also acclimated the boards stacked of 1x2 sticks with weights on top for about three weeks. I took some random moisture reading from each board with a Klein moisture meter and read between 8.5 to 9.5. Next week I will attempt to do my glue ups, wish me luck...

  • @dkbuilds
    @dkbuilds Před 4 lety +4

    Great video. I appreciate your taking the time to draw diagrams, take extra explanatory shots, and generally provide a high production quality for a video with "simple" content. I watched all the way through and learned something because of your effort. Thanks!

  • @MeansWoodshop
    @MeansWoodshop Před 4 lety +4

    I gotta agree with you on a few things. I usually always just glue one side of a board and have never had a joint fail. Along with not worrying about the orientation of the end grain. These things have never seemed to affect any of my projects.

    • @RobinDobbie
      @RobinDobbie Před 4 lety

      I usually glue one side, too. Gluing two sides allows you to use less glue, which could be important if supplies are limited and getting to squeeze out is an issue.

  • @butiwantlove
    @butiwantlove Před rokem

    The whisper has spoken. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! It has helped my projects tremendously.

  • @herbkempf9939
    @herbkempf9939 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video.

  • @redbaron6334
    @redbaron6334 Před rokem

    Marc, Great stuff. I am new as an avid woodworking hobbyist. So many important factors in panel assembly. You turned on several new lightbulbs for me...your retired Airline Captain fro a previous comment years ago. Thanks.

  • @pppaiste
    @pppaiste Před 2 lety

    Had to keep rewinding because I got distracted by all the amazing stuff in your backdrops. Especially loved the "ban" hammer!

  • @michelehowe6853
    @michelehowe6853 Před 4 lety +1

    I am happily married, but I "heart" you Wood Whisperer, in a purely platonic, wood encyclopedia kinda way. Thanks much for this video.

  • @TheMikeNan
    @TheMikeNan Před 2 lety

    This is one of the best videos on how to create flat edge-glued panels. Thanks for sharing.

  • @BeaulieuTodd
    @BeaulieuTodd Před 2 lety

    This is possibly the very best, to the point video I’ve ever seen. Not only from you, but ever. I’ve been woodworking for … ten, fifteen years? I learned a lot here that I will apply.

  • @joeframer9642
    @joeframer9642 Před 4 lety +2

    Great tips, I’m a framer,not a woodworker, but I’m learning, thanks👍🇺🇸

  • @automaticprojects
    @automaticprojects Před 4 lety +1

    Wow. This video is terrific.

  • @schoolhousemodern
    @schoolhousemodern Před 4 lety +1

    Mark; this was one of your best explainers yet. Second only to my fav, the cross cut sled.

  • @CodeFoxAus
    @CodeFoxAus Před 4 lety +1

    Great video thanks Marc

  • @shaynesabala
    @shaynesabala Před 2 lety

    I’m new to all of this and I have to say, your videos are absolutely the most helpful of any videos I watch. I research to death, and never find so much useful information as I do in your videos. Thank you so much, now I need to go prop up a door panel I glued together this evening. Ha, keep up the good work and I hope you are rewarded, as you deserve it, sincerely.

  • @WoodenCreationz
    @WoodenCreationz Před 4 lety +1

    Great video Marc!!! I have been down all these roads!!!!!

  • @paulkramer4176
    @paulkramer4176 Před 2 lety +3

    good concise information. I've been working with wood for almost 60 years. All your points were well made, and not overly verbose. Of course us skilled workers get our own habits and preferences, but these were good. Because of glue improvements and changes, there are some different ways to handle things now, but basically, I'd agree. I appreciated the comment to wait a few days before sanding panels. I've often seen folks rush things a bit too fast and want to get that project to go together too quickly. I often have several pieces in work at the same time, so as to allow for drying to take place. I've seen panels where the biscuits used telegraphed thru to the surface because the panel was sanded within a day or two of glue up. Thanks

  • @micahhowell4432
    @micahhowell4432 Před rokem

    What a great video!! I wish I would’ve seen something like this 10 years ago!

  • @gracenjuguna7292
    @gracenjuguna7292 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm new to woodworking and loved all your tips. Thanks

  • @djbowe
    @djbowe Před 3 lety

    you have the heart of a teacher/mentor. Great video

  • @HowIDoThingsDIY
    @HowIDoThingsDIY Před 2 lety

    That veneer example was super cool and really shows how wood can move. with variable humidity.

  • @somicotube
    @somicotube Před 4 lety +1

    After all these years following you I always keep on learning something important. Thank you!!

  • @henryrossouw930
    @henryrossouw930 Před 2 lety

    Great to be reminded about these small little things that add up to huge problems in the end.Thanks for sharing.

  • @mikehill3426
    @mikehill3426 Před 4 lety +5

    Good stuff. I've been at this a while and never considered narrow boards needing more clamps. Makes sense!

  • @WoodworkingBarcelona
    @WoodworkingBarcelona Před 4 lety +1

    Very useful tips. Will keep those in mind. Regards!

  • @mogasesegopotje8483
    @mogasesegopotje8483 Před rokem

    I'm leaving this space very educated. Thanks very much❤

  • @AndyMatalo
    @AndyMatalo Před 3 lety +1

    Pure gold! Still one of the best out there.

  • @soWEBKINZ
    @soWEBKINZ Před 3 lety

    This was definitely one of the better quality videos I've seen on gluing up panels. Very good!

  • @ralieghwhite9076
    @ralieghwhite9076 Před rokem

    Your opening statement was proven true for me right now… on my first project ever. 😂

  • @ProjectAnubisUSA
    @ProjectAnubisUSA Před 3 lety

    I dabbled in wood on an off making various furniture bits. I’m looking to build more and these tips will help get me off to a great start and save some of the headaches of learning the hard way! Thanks

  • @grumpytuber
    @grumpytuber Před 4 lety +1

    great vid.

  • @stevenozer9901
    @stevenozer9901 Před rokem

    Very helpful video! It’s called woodworking because it’s all about working the wood.

  • @chrissimonds733
    @chrissimonds733 Před 4 lety +2

    Hey Marc....
    I’ve been watching your content since you started ... I love it... I hope people realize what an in depth lesson in wood science/working they just got ...
    You rock

  • @mountainlightwoodcraft
    @mountainlightwoodcraft Před 4 lety +1

    Always the best content on the Web, Marc.

    • @mountainlightwoodcraft
      @mountainlightwoodcraft Před 4 lety

      Some famous person once said (I'm sorry I don't remember who) "that they were considered a genius because they made so many good decisions. What they don't realize is that they're based on some really bad decisions." I think we're all guilty of that, and I want to thank you for helping to minimize the number of bad decisions we have to make in woodworking.

  • @norm_olsen
    @norm_olsen Před 4 lety +2

    Awesome advice! Learned a truck-load on this one!

  • @DennisNestor
    @DennisNestor Před 4 lety +1

    Always hear that woods like a straw. But when you mentioned would being like a sponge it really clicked. Definitely a reminder to keep your woodstock off the shop floor.

  • @midi510
    @midi510 Před 2 lety

    Was picturing the 45° angle principal with a caul behind a thin board and how it spreads out the load/force.

  • @154Jamesp
    @154Jamesp Před 4 lety

    This might be your most informative video ever. This would make a great shop poster for reference before gluing up a panel.

  • @billelse5294
    @billelse5294 Před 3 lety +1

    I love Deadpool hanging behind you...

  • @jonstuartjon3
    @jonstuartjon3 Před rokem

    Incredibly helpful! Thanks, Mike.

  • @garygaleski7669
    @garygaleski7669 Před rokem

    He provided a lot of useful information. Thank you

  • @UndertheWaterDesign
    @UndertheWaterDesign Před 4 lety +1

    Quality video. Thank you.

  • @GlassImpressions
    @GlassImpressions Před 4 lety +1

    Great tips Marc!

  • @normolson1
    @normolson1 Před 3 lety +1

    WOW !! what a wealth of knowledge here, thank you for sharing.

  • @umakemesick2
    @umakemesick2 Před 4 lety +1

    I did my first panel glue up this past weekend. It came out ok, so all this info is very much appreciated going forward . Thank you!

  • @markstrandoutdoors
    @markstrandoutdoors Před rokem

    this is excellent. just getting back into woodworking and wanted a refresher on gluing up panels. learned a lot!

  • @TheLindsay720
    @TheLindsay720 Před 4 lety +1

    Good one bruss!

  • @eldonhinck1487
    @eldonhinck1487 Před rokem

    Best video I've seen, thank you so much for the time and tips.

  • @SteveC38
    @SteveC38 Před 4 lety +1

    All Good Advice👍

  • @markkielman4777
    @markkielman4777 Před 2 lety

    Great tips!!! I am a noob when it comes to woodworking and you explained things very well. Also, nice shirt! I go there every time I get to KC, love the original ’Oklahoma Joe’s’ lol

  • @EPeltzer
    @EPeltzer Před 2 lety

    I've actually been doing this for a while with decent results, but it's certainly worth watching every minute of this because experience has only taught me about 30% of these points.

  • @allen35315
    @allen35315 Před 6 měsíci

    Love the joinery tip

  • @JTWoodworks
    @JTWoodworks Před 4 lety +1

    Great tips Marc. Thanks for sharing

  • @tallyman15
    @tallyman15 Před 4 lety

    Great tips. Never can stop learning.

  • @onlythejeffness
    @onlythejeffness Před 4 lety

    The "pressure cone" explanation really makes sense. I like it.

  • @hollandcustomwoodworking5932

    So much great information here! Thanks for sharing

  • @gillessophie6158
    @gillessophie6158 Před 4 lety

    So well explained things I knew but didn't understand why. Thanks so much. Greetings from france. I have not all the langage to express how much I ' m learning with you some small details I like to understand about wood. I can work wood with advices but I like more work wood with understandings these tips, advives, methods.

  • @TheGordog
    @TheGordog Před rokem

    Thanks. Excellent practical advice as always.

  • @joser1219
    @joser1219 Před 4 lety +1

    This was very informative and I learned a lot of new things. Thanks for the lesson.

  • @davetarrant6888
    @davetarrant6888 Před 4 lety

    What a great video packed full of useful info. I am still and maybe always will be a novice but I learn so much watching your videos that I might be able to pull off a decent panel glue up.

  • @pnwgrown_360
    @pnwgrown_360 Před 2 lety

    Flipping fantastic video man. So informative and still not dumbing it down. I appreciate you

  • @abolsoud
    @abolsoud Před 3 lety

    Very informative! I had a joined board that kept cupping after I hand planned many times. Ended up just redoing it

  • @SpencleyDesignCo
    @SpencleyDesignCo Před 4 lety

    Great job Marc! You've been kicking ass with these fire videos recently!

  • @Polemistis93
    @Polemistis93 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for the super in-depth breakdown!

  • @rick91443
    @rick91443 Před 4 lety

    The best video on this subject I've ever, ever, EVER seen...cheers...rr Normandy, Fra.

  • @rorycasey9190
    @rorycasey9190 Před 3 lety

    Great information and I loved how you described everything in detail with the backing of science and logistics. Great execution of getting that important info about tabletops across; It sure helped me with the desk tabletop I built for my wife. I’m only a novice woodworker and self taught by great teachers like you! Keep em coming man.

  • @allent555
    @allent555 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you so much! Extremely educational !

  • @LVQ-so5th
    @LVQ-so5th Před 2 lety

    I learned a lot. Thank you.

  • @djdnauk1977
    @djdnauk1977 Před 3 měsíci

    great info here, thanks! love that major goldie wilson poster (:

  • @Maverick8t88
    @Maverick8t88 Před 4 lety

    Dude, I love all the Back to the Future paraphernalia scattered around your shop! Also, man, I needed this info! I joined two pieces of Baltic Birch butcher block for a friend of mines countertop. Had to do it 2x because I applied too much pressure unevenly. Had to cut it apart and do it again. 🥴

  • @poodelek5063
    @poodelek5063 Před 2 lety

    Great video with lots of useful tips. Thank you
    Just one suggestion regarding tip no.9.... Instead of using a stretch wrapping I recommend putting panels in a plastic bag and seal it. It can be re-used which makes it much more environmentally friendly

  • @oneeyedphotographer
    @oneeyedphotographer Před 3 lety

    I'm a beginner.
    I have seen rubbing joints, the demonstrators used Titebond III. Makes me wonder whether clamping is necessary. Maybe a jig to hold alignment and hold panels on edge while curing, as you did in your first curing example. Freshly glued panels could be stored out of the way.

  • @ac311205
    @ac311205 Před 4 lety

    Well said, I’ve always felt like twisted boards are the absolute worst to work with and should be avoided whenever possible.

  • @J.Allen_
    @J.Allen_ Před 2 lety

    This was VERY VERY helpful. I appreciate the effort you put into this. Thank you.

  • @derekjarman1638
    @derekjarman1638 Před 4 lety +1

    Good tips! Also like Dougies cameos at the end of the videos😁

  • @pb77
    @pb77 Před 6 měsíci

    Definitely leave your glue ups before sanding. I did some maple panels with dominoes. I actually noticed the spots where I used dominoes were high, So I sanded them flat. A week later I could see the dents where each domino was

  • @odarkthirtywoodworks3543
    @odarkthirtywoodworks3543 Před 4 lety +1

    Marc, Thank you so much, some really cool tips that I will put in my toolkit!

  • @aakburns
    @aakburns Před 2 lety

    This is a very helpful video. Thanks.

  • @OmarAhmad-gm1uc
    @OmarAhmad-gm1uc Před 2 lety

    Your work is always so beautiful

  • @BeaverCraftTools
    @BeaverCraftTools Před 4 lety

    So many useful tips! Thanks for sharing.

  • @piratepoppy5548
    @piratepoppy5548 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic, well explained video 🤗

  • @erichdelossantos4701
    @erichdelossantos4701 Před 3 lety

    this video is like a science class which is totally cool :)

  • @Belg1970
    @Belg1970 Před 4 lety +1

    Any tip for doing a large glue up for a table top when I only have a 24" wide bench?

  • @hardnox6655
    @hardnox6655 Před 4 lety +1

    Beautifully explained. One other point: it's critical to apply finish on ALL surfaces to eliminate (or at least minimize) moisture absorption. Too many woodworkers focus only on visible surfaces. This provides for uneven moisture and thus the wood warps or cups.

  • @christunks7512
    @christunks7512 Před 3 lety

    Amazing! Thank you! Could use some of that dry Denver air here in the Scottish highlands!

  • @katie2920
    @katie2920 Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing video! Thank you for making this video!