I've owned different idler drive turntables, incl Garrard & Thorens.. In my opinion, Lenco's are the best. Very low status among audiophiles, but extremely good sounding, and very reliable.
Agreed 100%. I’ve owned a 301 grease bearing completely serviced and upgraded and ended up selling and getting a L70. 1/5 of the price and equal or better performance, the L70 had more slam and its engineered in such a clever way I really can’t understand why audiophiles look down on them, in my opinion it’s more about snobbism than sound and performance
@@fermartinezrios7251 I also agree 100%.. My brother is an an audio engineer, and has designed for some of the most well respected audio brands in the world. He also believes Lenco made the best overall idler drives, but weren't as exotic, or exiting looking as other brands.. I always wondered why Jonathan never mentions Lenco, when it's widely known as a top idler drive turntable brand..
Jonathan, I really appreciate your discussion with Jaap Pees at Hanze Hifi, as it directly relates to the nature of the H.A.T. variable voltage and frequency clean power supply I received from him a few weeks ago. Might I suggest expanding the narrative a bit so people interested in Jaap's work, Hanze HiFi and the Thorens TD 124 will find it through a routine search? Thanks again. Very informative.
It's really great that Jonathan conducts and publishes these kinds of interviews. Two heroes in an amused conversation about their love for audio, especially audio based on analog technology from earlier times. Where else do you encounter that? Fantastic.
Absolutely Fascinating! Two people with passion sailing against the tide of Normal and creating their own flow to navigate in ways the others can only dream of! I am so looking forward to the next episode! Thank you Jonathan .
I had the opposite experience. I had a Gerrard 301 back in the 90's and liked it very much. Then I listened to a Well Tempered Record Player and the WT was, to me, MUCH better than the 301. And the 301 was in top notch condition. Since, someone came up with the idea of using a piece of fishing line instead of a belt and this was even better, to me, and of course dirt cheap. The designer of the WT, W. Firbaugh, spelling?, made some novel improvements in the design of the spindle and tone arm support and balance. I am wondering if either of you have listened to a WT table and your thoughts. Enjoyed the video !
Great to see. I don't wish to sound disrespectful, but when this genius is no longer with us, who comes behind to fill the void he has left? Knowledge & experience that this gentleman has, isn't acquired over a few years.
Out of curiosity, can someone explain why the TD124 doesn't suffer the same timing effects of a belt drive given that an intermediary belt is spinning the idler wheel?
interesting , a hobby full of high precision motors. while I concede every design has strengths and weaknesses , I think they slight the fundamental problem of noise. A quiet table can always improve the weaknesses, but once you accept noise , you accept a limit on performance. I wonder how this guys life would have ben effected had he done his long ago comparison with a better table than what he happened to have at the time.
Jaap is clearly Dutch. I recognise that Iddler drive is more lively. Nevertheless there are a lot of ways that companies try to get the most out of vinyl. I especially like companies who take their view on vinyl to the extreme. Like OMA does, and other some companies do in other ways. Also an LP12 has gone a long way since years ago. What about Rega with their new Naia.
Jaap is awesome!!! What a neat organized shop too!
Jonathan, I love this kind of stuff. Kudos for the way you always pay deep respect for the best of the past work of others.
Thank you very much for your comment, Robert!
I went from an LP 12 to a Pink Triangle LPT Gti and finally ended up with the Garrard 401. No going back . Great video, thanks for sharing.
I've owned different idler drive turntables, incl Garrard & Thorens.. In my opinion, Lenco's are the best. Very low status among audiophiles, but extremely good sounding, and very reliable.
Agreed 100%. I’ve owned a 301 grease bearing completely serviced and upgraded and ended up selling and getting a L70. 1/5 of the price and equal or better performance, the L70 had more slam and its engineered in such a clever way I really can’t understand why audiophiles look down on them, in my opinion it’s more about snobbism than sound and performance
@@fermartinezrios7251 I also agree 100%.. My brother is an an audio engineer, and has designed for some of the most well respected audio brands in the world. He also believes Lenco made the best overall idler drives, but weren't as exotic, or exiting looking as other brands.. I always wondered why Jonathan never mentions Lenco, when it's widely known as a top idler drive turntable brand..
Jonathan, I really appreciate your discussion with Jaap Pees at Hanze Hifi, as it directly relates to the nature of the H.A.T. variable voltage and frequency clean power supply I received from him a few weeks ago. Might I suggest expanding the narrative a bit so people interested in Jaap's work, Hanze HiFi and the Thorens TD 124 will find it through a routine search? Thanks again. Very informative.
It's really great that Jonathan conducts and publishes these kinds of interviews. Two heroes in an amused conversation about their love for audio, especially audio based on analog technology from earlier times. Where else do you encounter that? Fantastic.
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Absolutely Fascinating! Two people with passion sailing against the tide of Normal and creating their own flow to navigate in ways the others can only dream of! I am so looking forward to the next episode! Thank you Jonathan .
Thank you for a great video.
I find it interesting that given all of the negative talk about belt-drive turntables, he uses a BELT to drive the idler wheel in the TD124!!!
I had the opposite experience. I had a Gerrard 301 back in the 90's and liked it very much. Then I listened to a Well Tempered Record Player and the WT was, to me, MUCH better than the 301. And the 301 was in top notch condition. Since, someone came up with the idea of using a piece of fishing line instead of a belt and this was even better, to me, and of course dirt cheap. The designer of the WT, W. Firbaugh, spelling?, made some novel improvements in the design of the spindle and tone arm support and balance. I am wondering if either of you have listened to a WT table and your thoughts. Enjoyed the video !
Braun PS500 has Belt & Idler too.
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Great to see. I don't wish to sound disrespectful, but when this genius is no longer with us, who comes behind to fill the void he has left? Knowledge & experience that this gentleman has, isn't acquired over a few years.
Fascinating
Out of curiosity, can someone explain why the TD124 doesn't suffer the same timing effects of a belt drive given that an intermediary belt is spinning the idler wheel?
interesting , a hobby full of high precision motors. while I concede every design has strengths and weaknesses , I think they slight the fundamental problem of noise. A quiet table can always improve the weaknesses, but once you accept noise , you accept a limit on performance.
I wonder how this guys life would have ben effected had he done his long ago comparison with a better table than what he happened to have at the time.
And the very rare Kenwood ( Trio) KP - 5021?
@oswaldsmillaudio Between a Garrard 301 and a Technics SP10 Mk3, which one you choose?
Turn up the volume, Mr. Hi-Fi man.
Jaap is clearly Dutch. I recognise that Iddler drive is more lively. Nevertheless there are a lot of ways that companies try to get the most out of vinyl. I especially like companies who take their view on vinyl to the extreme. Like OMA does, and other some companies do in other ways. Also an LP12 has gone a long way since years ago. What about Rega with their new Naia.
Is Jaap J.P. van Vliet?
Jaap Pees