The Unparalleled Archery and Horsemanship of the Comanche Warrior

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  • čas přidán 9. 12. 2019
  • Taken from JRE #1397 w/S. C. Gwynne: / iq8ss9yg6b

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  • @burgerdan4936
    @burgerdan4936 Před 3 lety +1405

    I never feel as close to Joe as when he brings a Historian/Archaeologist/etc. and just becomes a wide-eyed kid for an hour. Bless this man.

    • @ghostfarmer358
      @ghostfarmer358 Před 3 lety +17

      Joe Rogan is the shit

    • @berdriawyatt3502
      @berdriawyatt3502 Před 3 lety +1

      Don’t we all🙃

    • @romanjaviermeza1802
      @romanjaviermeza1802 Před 3 lety +5

      I 1000 percent agree I love these videos

    • @porterkylo8604
      @porterkylo8604 Před 2 lety +1

      you prolly dont give a shit but if you're stoned like me atm then you can watch all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my girlfriend during the lockdown :)

    • @douglasdorian770
      @douglasdorian770 Před 2 lety

      @Porter Kylo yea, I have been using Instaflixxer for since december myself =)

  • @wackyruss
    @wackyruss Před rokem +55

    We learned about Comanche badassery in Texas History Class. I remember Mrs. Donahoo, my 7th Grade Texas History Teacher was simply an amazing Storyteller! She had us so riveted to our seats with such tales of Texas in the Old West that we sometimes didn’t even move when the bell rang to change classes!

    • @jamess7264
      @jamess7264 Před rokem +6

      I, like you, was fortunate to have a history teacher in my youth that brought history to life. I’m 61 and still remember my middle school history teacher in South Florida who brought the history of the Seminole tribe to us.

  • @jingqi9106
    @jingqi9106 Před 3 lety +349

    The Comanches brought so many advanced elements, for that time anyway, to the battlefield. They could travel in a minimalist way and fast. Once on the battlefield they could shoot bow and arrows multiple times in succession with great accuracy. They could hide from enemy fire behind their transportation and often had back ups. They could kill on the move which was a tremendous advantage against stationary soldiers because they were accurate while at the same time elusive. The Comanches could close at astonishing speed, strike fast with violence of action, and then retreat quickly if they needed to.
    It wasn't until the Texas Rangers learned how to travel stealthily and use tactics like the Comanche did the tide turn. The Rangers couldn't shoot arrows like the Comanche and single shot firearms were too slow so the addition of multiple shot pistols turned the tide of the war. With superior technology it was only a matter of time before the war was over.

    • @roboparks
      @roboparks Před 2 lety +34

      advanced elements, for that time anyway, to the battlefield. Peoples of the Steppe had been fighting that way for thousands of years, It wasn't new.

    • @why3011
      @why3011 Před 2 lety +2

      @@roboparks thank you.

    • @bgerystt3801
      @bgerystt3801 Před 2 lety +25

      @@roboparks thousands of years with horses? No. Just about 200 years. Horses in America were introduced by Spaniards.

    • @Eddythebeast666
      @Eddythebeast666 Před 2 lety +7

      @@bgerystt3801 Robert specifically mentioned The Steppe... The Mongols took down ancient China... Hell John Wayne played Genghis Khan

    • @SeabassSeeker
      @SeabassSeeker Před 2 lety +11

      @@Eddythebeast666 Mongols,Turks and American Indians are all from the same family…

  • @DrBoofenstein
    @DrBoofenstein Před 2 lety +133

    Imagine a whole war band of Comanches who can shoot like Lars as fast and accurately from the back of a horse, terrifying

    • @bigmatthews666
      @bigmatthews666 Před rokem +15

      You mean the Mongols?

    • @GerhardvonAhe
      @GerhardvonAhe Před rokem

      @@bigmatthews666 This

    • @buffalobilly6926
      @buffalobilly6926 Před rokem +3

      Shot like Lars? Lol, you mean Lars shooting like the Comanche.

    • @Sleepless4Life
      @Sleepless4Life Před rokem +1

      @@bigmatthews666 Did mongols do "trickshots"? I know they were next lvl archers. Imo these Comanches took it up a lvl, I'm not putting down Mongols btw. Mongols conquered the known world.

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade Před rokem

      Given what the Comanches did to the Apaches and the Spaniards, I understand better why white power at the end of the XIXth decided not to bother with native nations anymore and wipe them out altogether through plague, alcohol, occasional militayr action and deportation.

  • @jamescunningham4268
    @jamescunningham4268 Před 4 lety +156

    I'm glad for all the 800 year old mongolians in this comment section because most of you talking about it like you have first hand experience

    • @johnaustin2248
      @johnaustin2248 Před 4 lety +1

      Lol

    • @siegfriedgottz698
      @siegfriedgottz698 Před 4 lety +10

      one conquered basically all of asia and eastern europe, and the other got killed by a blanket with the flux LOL

    • @capitalizingcapitalist1202
      @capitalizingcapitalist1202 Před 3 lety +2

      @Abu Troll al cockroachistan wonder how they would've faired against the Spartans in their prime.

    • @budatx09
      @budatx09 Před 3 lety +2

      @@capitalizingcapitalist1202 they probably would have had a hard time since they were more of a stiff organized army than the Mongolians. The Mongols would just run around them and use flanking tactics in combination with foot soldiers who could handle their own against any army.

    • @ReconBoy500
      @ReconBoy500 Před 3 lety +2

      @@siegfriedgottz698 yea, we have all this modern medicine and we're still gettin sickness that shuts down the whole world.

  • @Bj5m17h
    @Bj5m17h Před 4 lety +580

    This comment section got more Mongolians than Mongolia.

    • @gazmendsubrahimi8360
      @gazmendsubrahimi8360 Před 4 lety +30

      We have to build a shitty wall

    • @jonboy9734
      @jonboy9734 Před 4 lety +4

      gazmend subrahimi shitty wall worked though.

    • @Boddah.
      @Boddah. Před 4 lety +13

      Funny thing is Native Americans are related to Mongolians.

    • @SuperLio333
      @SuperLio333 Před 4 lety +2

      Only mogolian I ever knew was named Gunbo Gunbold like what?

    • @gazmendsubrahimi8360
      @gazmendsubrahimi8360 Před 4 lety +10

      @@Boddah. Mongolians have a Y-dna Haplogroup (genetic patriarchal marker) of C-m217 ... while most native Americans have an Haplogroup marker of Q-m242 ... they are closer to siberians.

  • @jimmorrison8014
    @jimmorrison8014 Před 4 lety +95

    The Commanche's relatives the Shoshoni where also great horseman in the plains and they also dominated other plains tribes by horse. Anyone who came into the plains the Shoshoni challenged them, there strength was also the horse, many tribes feared the Shoshoni's. It was said that the Shoshoni's where the largest and most powerful tribe on the western side of the rocky mountains and the Sioux were the largest and most powerful tribe on the eastern side of the rocky mountains. I read somewhere that the Commanche's split from the Shoshoni tribe back in the late 1600s. Like the Commanche's the Shoshoni's also had large herds of horses, other tribes like the Blackfeet would try to steal them. The Commanche and Shoshoni speak with the same language (dialect). The Commanche and Shoshoni tribes from Wyoming, Idaho, Nevada and Utah meet once a year in Commanche territory or one of the four Shoshoni reservations in the Pacific Northwest to share stories and have a feast and celebrate, they call it the "Shoshoni Reunion."

    • @wahatoya8532
      @wahatoya8532 Před 2 lety +7

      We have a been having Comanche and Shoshone reunions for 22 years now. Comanches were part of the Shoshone tribe separated in the 18th century. The Shoshone and Comanche language are similar with certain consonant changes in Comanche. Same language group Uto-Aztecan. Sacagawea was Shoshone who helped the Lewis and Clark expedition.

    • @jasonnitz510
      @jasonnitz510 Před rokem +4

      They shoshoni were the largest tribe 10,000 shoshoni left the tribe and formed the Comanche which later became as large as 20000 they were the most affective buffalo hunters in history they trapped and traded horse to other tribes and taught them to hunt and ride on horseback. They weren’t always killing other tribes and at war all the time usually they were just after settling other tribes horses

    • @marcosrotllan
      @marcosrotllan Před rokem

      How the horses came to America?

    • @ZapataE
      @ZapataE Před rokem

      @@marcosrotllanThe Vikings brought them from Greenland 👍🏾😁

    • @steveelder5306
      @steveelder5306 Před 4 měsíci

      spanish conquistadores brought them on ships to the New World@@marcosrotllan

  • @jonvladimirtsev3002
    @jonvladimirtsev3002 Před 3 lety +60

    Joe, this type of archery is still practiced in Central Asia ... Mongolia etc, in English captured under the phrase "Ethnosport" , the horsemanship is called Djigitovka and making a comeback as Cossack culture is revived post Soviet Union.

    • @lecutter9382
      @lecutter9382 Před rokem +3

      Yeah, I was going to say, there's never been horse archers better than the Mongols. They virtually conquered the entire known world with that skill alone.

  • @vikingsuperpowers
    @vikingsuperpowers Před 2 lety +43

    Thats 'Instinctive Archery' as used by the Old English Longbow archers, like Japanese Horse Archery. No sights. Takes ten times longer to learn but super accurate.
    Joe, read 'Hunting with the bow and arrow' by Saxton Pope. Amazing, hunting grizzly's with long bows! He befriend Ishi, the 'last wild Indian' who taught him a lot.
    I played Australian Rules Football for years and always noticed that kicking a goal or to a team mate from standing - very difficult. Kicking at full sprint with people trying to tackle you- incredible accuracy often, almost supernatural. It's the subconscious mind. It's also something in surfing where the wave is 'alive' and you can't think, you just have to let go and let your instinctive mind take over.
    My cousins were cowboy trick riders and could gallop ponies and hang all over them like the Commanches! Great episode guys

  • @koxov92
    @koxov92 Před 4 lety +423

    The Mongolians : Hold my jacket made of field-mice

    • @koxov92
      @koxov92 Před 4 lety +7

      @Zack Lavoie In Dan Carlin's wrath of the khans, he tells that to show their extreme poverty before they started conquering

    • @traiyer2508
      @traiyer2508 Před 4 lety +6

      Agreed. In my opinion Mongolian archers rule above all.

    • @Boddah.
      @Boddah. Před 4 lety +23

      Native Americans are related to Mongolians.

    • @dorijandorijan7220
      @dorijandorijan7220 Před 4 lety

      @@Boddah. 👍

    • @ted.the.human1
      @ted.the.human1 Před 4 lety +12

      @@Boddah. there is absolutely no proof of that merely a speculation

  • @unappreciatedtreehouse821
    @unappreciatedtreehouse821 Před 3 lety +56

    Comanche culture was just missed by the invention of the motion camera. Just missed, I hadn't thought of that before. True.

    • @shaolin6
      @shaolin6 Před 3 lety +3

      Comanche porn would be fire

    • @TsurfBangz
      @TsurfBangz Před 3 lety

      @@shaolin6 I’m Comanche tell your mom too hmu 🤙

    • @redman4316
      @redman4316 Před 2 lety

      @@TsurfBangz my wife is Comanche! I love her crazy ass!😬😂

    • @canobenitez
      @canobenitez Před 2 lety

      @@redman4316 im gonna need some pics

    • @redman4316
      @redman4316 Před 2 lety

      @@canobenitez pics of what?

  • @jetalone6
    @jetalone6 Před 4 lety +547

    mongolian warrior: hold my fermented yak milk

    • @sancho7863
      @sancho7863 Před 4 lety +7

      It’s a dumb and tired joke. Please try to come up with something fresh

    • @dazhwood
      @dazhwood Před 4 lety

      😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @bigflatzy3004
      @bigflatzy3004 Před 4 lety +2

      That just made me LOL 😂

    • @koopspook
      @koopspook Před 4 lety +8

      Skankhunt42 it's not about the joke it's about the Skills

    • @damonentrekin1328
      @damonentrekin1328 Před 4 lety +5

      @@sancho7863 i wonder if your the only skankhunt42 on youtube

  • @lionelhutz5137
    @lionelhutz5137 Před 4 lety +352

    Genghis Khan: "hold my sack of severed heads"

    • @austinporter6701
      @austinporter6701 Před 4 lety +4

      Hold my bag of dank ghengis ganja

    • @revo1974
      @revo1974 Před 4 lety +1

      Lionel Hutz Beat me to it.

    • @gmmakesmehurl
      @gmmakesmehurl Před 4 lety +2

      Don't you have an ambulance to chase or a bottle of Colonel Kwikee Mart Kentucky Bourbon to swill?

    • @mtevilone
      @mtevilone Před 4 lety +4

      Mongols did it from the backs of horses, not hanging off the side and shooting under the neck.

    • @gmmakesmehurl
      @gmmakesmehurl Před 4 lety +1

      Nobody cares anymore.

  • @falllinemaniac
    @falllinemaniac Před 4 lety +242

    The Comanche saved my family from starvation one year when the crops failed and everyone faced winter with empty cellars my uncle had some Comanche friends who showed him how to lance bison from horseback on a hunt. The meat taken helped my ancestors survive that winter and I'm grateful for that friendship.

    • @RUN_IT_UP_
      @RUN_IT_UP_ Před 4 lety +16

      Shut the fuck up

    • @falllinemaniac
      @falllinemaniac Před 4 lety +47

      @@GB-ev2ti I thought my dad's stories were for clueless idiots when I was a boy. Now I realize that's how life, and death was then as well as now. Truly I wouldn't be here to annoy you if the Comanche didn't help an old friend kill some buffalo for his family. You certainly can say whatever you want about this but that's only your opinion.

    • @falllinemaniac
      @falllinemaniac Před 4 lety +9

      @@RUN_IT_UP_ Why?

    • @GB-ev2ti
      @GB-ev2ti Před 4 lety +22

      @@falllinemaniac JUIAN PLEASE ACCEPT MY SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR MY REACTION. I GREW UP VERY VERY POOR AND WE FARMED AND LIVED OFF THE LAND AND GOOD HEARTED FRIENDS 100% . WHEN I READ YOUR COMMENT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE SOME HOW MAKING A SARCASTIC MOCKERY OF THE GOOD INDIVIDUALS IN THE STORY. I HAVE DELETED
      MY PREVIOUS POST. I WAS WRONG ABOUT YOU AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING FROM THE HEART.

    • @martyrmessiah3903
      @martyrmessiah3903 Před 4 lety +6

      @@RUN_IT_UP_ Football is all scripted and choreographed. Fake as "wrastling".

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 Před 4 lety +292

    The horse Comanches were great, but I preferred the jeep Comanches.

  • @elkaddiction4540
    @elkaddiction4540 Před 3 lety +35

    I am part comanche, but no enrollment. My great grandmother was comanche apache, born in a comanche/apache township. Was married to a cherokee mixed Choctaw Chickasaw. He was a cherokee youth on the rolls. They left Oklahoma working the oilfields, they gave one of their sons away going through Idaho, to a Blackfoot family, for food, and fuel. My grandfather was a vary violent man. Spent much of his life, in and out of prison. He hated "the white man" but married a white woman. My grandfather died at age 35. My beautiful mother, died at 59, and me, just being 1/4, having no rights to being in rolled as a "cherokee" due to the fact, that their original birth, and death certificates are long gone, am left alone, no people, i can be anything I want, except an "American Indian" i was told, that my great grandfather, and my grandfather, bosted that they never surrendered. But they left me and my mother alone, she suffered through poverty, racial attacks, had her face beaten into a brick wall. She had fake teeth the rest of here life.

    • @dealinginfiction
      @dealinginfiction Před 2 lety +5

      I am part Lakota Sioux and know what you feel, in part. I have know stories of the people and no proof I am part of the tribe. But is it possible to do a DNA testing or lineage tracking? Is it possible?

    • @angrybanana5476
      @angrybanana5476 Před rokem +1

      Wasn't the Apache nation their enemies?

    • @gatocles99
      @gatocles99 Před rokem +2

      A lot of us are mixed race, and of no tribe. We get to be American... part of something larger than a mere tribe.
      A nation of ideals.
      It sounds hokey, I know.
      But being a part of a small group is limiting.
      Some of us have even married internationally... making our tribe (and perspective) even bigger.

    • @dickhead6081
      @dickhead6081 Před rokem

      You can still be a modern indian, just drink all the time and be lazy and blame all your failures on the white man.

    • @buffalobilly6926
      @buffalobilly6926 Před rokem +1

      @@gatocles99 speak for yourself, I’m proud to be a Northern Cheyenne brown boy. Last name was giving to my grandfather by the gov, he was forced to go to a residential school. My great great grandfather was a medicine man for A.I.M. Being apart of the Cheyenne nation means the world to me, and it’s most definitely not limiting. Fuck being an American, I’m Northern Cheyenne.

  • @romuloambay9624
    @romuloambay9624 Před 3 lety +31

    from the looks of it the comanche horsemen were a small version of the mongols cavalry. .comanches do their raids in small groups, mongols by hordes. .but both were equally formidable horsemen-warriors

    • @danwelterweight4137
      @danwelterweight4137 Před 2 lety +8

      The difference was that Mongols were huge in size, wore full combat armour and were also good with the sword, spear and axe.
      Comanches were small, wore no armor and only used spears, bows and arrows.

    • @TheThedisliker
      @TheThedisliker Před 2 lety

      armor is good for close combat, which either was unarmed civilians or with guns, no use of armor.

    • @Latino.99
      @Latino.99 Před rokem +2

      @@danwelterweight4137 Lol comanches were far from being small

    • @andrewsidorov9014
      @andrewsidorov9014 Před rokem

      @@Latino.99 1:08 to be proven wrong

    • @Latino.99
      @Latino.99 Před rokem

      @@andrewsidorov9014 Number-wise yeah, not biologically, more than enough tribes were as tall or even taller than most European ethnicities and the same time, as far I remember Comanche as well

  • @haleyguthrie3113
    @haleyguthrie3113 Před rokem +14

    Just so everyone knows, some tribes are bringing this back in archety clubs on our reservations. A group of Comanchee descendents also travel a bit and showcase. I haven't been one to one show where they weren't happy to see Americans of any race. The only way that our culture can be reclaimed and passed on is through others. There simply isn't enough left. Blood quantum will isn't helping. But that doesn't matter to most of us anymore. We just want people to remember that we were here.

  • @blackerpanther3329
    @blackerpanther3329 Před 4 lety +44

    Mongolian Warrior: hold my strips of meat cooked under my saddle by the heat of my horse.

  • @alastar12
    @alastar12 Před 4 lety +18

    Awesome conversation...Native American history is American history, know it.

  • @xooonepieceoox1917
    @xooonepieceoox1917 Před 3 lety +21

    It amazes me when ever I watch Joe Rogan show/segment it always blow my mind. I dont understand why tv networks haven't called him yet. Clearly hes podcast is 100 times better than some of the tv networks showing

    • @GMS_MCMI
      @GMS_MCMI Před 3 lety +2

      Hate to tell you Joe is leaving CZcams for a 100million deal with Spotify. 😪

  • @tombristowe846
    @tombristowe846 Před 3 lety +22

    There is a wonderful fictional account of a Comanche attack in Cormac McCarthy's book Blood Meridian. The last three or so pages of Chapter 4. It bears the hallmark of someone who has researched it and is a marvellous piece of creative writing, as is the whole book.

    • @andyanderson3776
      @andyanderson3776 Před rokem +2

      Amazing. No wonder the Predator fell to the Comanche. Outside of the Vikings, Massaii and Monghols, the Comanche were nothing to play with.

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade Před rokem

      @@andyanderson3776 Since when have the Masaii writen any significant civilisational page ?

  • @donfillinger3571
    @donfillinger3571 Před 4 lety +20

    *Joe's Guest about to make a point*:
    *Joe*: Hey what does a saddle look like??

  • @jflack6
    @jflack6 Před 4 lety +48

    This dude is probably smarter than any of us in here.. of course he’s heard of the Mongolians. These folks may as well be related down the line TO them.

    • @RogueReplicant
      @RogueReplicant Před 3 lety +3

      @Armin Wessler The problem with *morons like you* who generalize and stereotype a group of 350 million people is that there are millions waaay smarter than you. Knuckledragger.

    • @iamincrediblystupidbut4364
      @iamincrediblystupidbut4364 Před 2 lety

      @@RogueReplicant cope

  • @genemowatt5179
    @genemowatt5179 Před 3 lety +14

    Hey joe im a Comanche holla at me I can get you an interview with one of the last full blood Comanches left are are still here

  • @sztarszki
    @sztarszki Před 2 lety +23

    This is the modern Hungarian version of horseback archery, based on the way ancient nomadic huns other tribes were shooting.. The arrows of the huns were feared by the whole western europe as they were masters of this warfare. There is a big movement of reviving this tradition by doing horseback archery as a sport, here is the founder and champion of it, Lajos Kassai: czcams.com/video/2yorHswhzrU/video.html

    • @mosesmahto118
      @mosesmahto118 Před 2 lety

      Nothing about Native American warfare comes from Europe. Stop it. Lol

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything Před 2 lety +6

      @@mosesmahto118 I don't think he meant that. There's simply a resemblance.

    • @dexterrr9163
      @dexterrr9163 Před rokem +1

      I think its obsolite to fight like this in a large army. Makes sense whem youre ambushing like 100 men or so

    • @brimstonevalar6053
      @brimstonevalar6053 Před rokem

      @@mosesmahto118 nothing? Maybe the horse lol

  • @gazmendsubrahimi8360
    @gazmendsubrahimi8360 Před 4 lety +55

    1) Mongolians.
    2) Japanese samurai.
    3) Tatars (who learned from the mongols).
    4) Ottoman Turks.
    5) Balkan (Greek/Albanian) Stradioti
    6) Late Medeival Arabs
    7) Serbian/Polish Hussars...
    Just to name -a few who were parallel to the Comanche.

    • @sonnysingh2456
      @sonnysingh2456 Před 4 lety +4

      Maybe even put the Mughals form India on the list. Amazing warriors from horseback and elephants.

    • @gazmendsubrahimi8360
      @gazmendsubrahimi8360 Před 4 lety +2

      @@sonnysingh2456 well... i did say
      "Just to name a few"...

    • @andrewabrams1535
      @andrewabrams1535 Před 4 lety

      Really now.

    • @ceciljohnrhodes4987
      @ceciljohnrhodes4987 Před 2 lety +1

      Robin Longstride, hold my pint.

    • @mitchrapp412
      @mitchrapp412 Před rokem +2

      The tartars was basically with the mongols they got swept up and was a vital contributor to the empire from the start they was some of the tribes that genghis brought all together on the steppe as one

  • @jaythompson5102
    @jaythompson5102 Před 4 lety +29

    He's describing the Parthian shot which was used by ancient Persian light cavalry and used by every steppe society and much of the horse-loving tribes native in North America.

    • @tigertank06
      @tigertank06 Před 4 lety

      Jay Thompson And also gave the Romans problems.

    • @RUN_IT_UP_
      @RUN_IT_UP_ Před 4 lety +2

      Wrong

    • @richarddobson5035
      @richarddobson5035 Před 4 lety

      Flase information

    • @jaythompson5102
      @jaythompson5102 Před 4 lety

      @Mercb3ast hmm well I was aware of the under the neck tactic, First Nations trick riders did this not long ago and may still do today. I wasn't aware this was not considered a Parthian shot but after doing some research it appears you are right in that not all retreating 'trick style' shooting should be considered a Parthian shot strictly speaking.

  • @davidbruce5524
    @davidbruce5524 Před 4 lety +17

    The "Lords of the Southern Plains"

  • @montycrain5783
    @montycrain5783 Před 2 lety +13

    The Plains Indian’s bows were fairly short and moderate in Power but for the short ranges they shot off a horse it was perfectly adapted.. Some of the Eastern tribes particularly the Cherokee used a long bow. Generally they were much longer, more forgiving and accurate. They were considerably more powerful with a effective range probably twice that of the Comanche bow yet also well adapted for the shooting they did. They have a shooting game that dates way back of shooting a vertical bunch of corn stalks representing a enemy warrior tied together and shot at out to 100 yards. Each bow and tribe made the bows their environment required. Osage Orange or Hedge or Horse Apple was equally prized by most tribes though. You ought to visit Tallequah Oklahoma the capital of the Cherokee Nation. There are active Boyers there. You owe it to yourself to try a traditional Plains flat bow or Eastern Longbow. The British Longbow or Warbow also is a beautiful thing. Some of their Warbows pulled over 150lb and penetrated armor yet were used by men whose size today would be average or probably less. Remember Jonathan the best friend of King David the Slayer of Goliath was known as a Master of the Bow.

    • @Daylon91
      @Daylon91 Před 11 měsíci

      There were a bunch of tribes who didn't use the horse mainly like the Apaches, Navajo and Santee Sioux who still used short fast bows. Our short bows are faster than a longbow with the same weight arrow but at a shorter draw length. In other words our bows are more efficient and English longbows only went over 80 ibs because of plate armor. During the viking period they used bows of 75 ibs

  • @M7S4I5L8V2A
    @M7S4I5L8V2A Před 4 lety +161

    I think one thing people are missing from this is that the natives had horses for barely half a mellinia where as people on the other side of the world had them for thousands of years. That's a very big time gap to compare.
    Also when did all pf this "lets shit on the native Americans" stuff begin? It used to be they were cool now everyone is trying to downplay what they did.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +17

      Not trying to sound disrespectful, but what did they do? What did they accomplish? I admire how they still had a natural spirituality, but beyond that I dont see where they actually 'did' anything.

    • @M7S4I5L8V2A
      @M7S4I5L8V2A Před 4 lety +29

      @@heathweeks1985 They learned to break horses and fight horseback. Yeah that isn't to major when other people did that but to learn how to do it in organized fashion is major especially when there very likely wasn't anyone teaching them these things.
      And since I'll be questioned on it, what I mean "organized fashion" is this is something they teach each other to and do it well. They weren't still jumping onto horses and hoping for the best, no they had a plan and did it.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +9

      @@M7S4I5L8V2A , Necessity breeds creativity and invention... Its crazy to think that Europeans reintroduced the horse and the Indians had to learn to ride those same animals to fight White men.

    • @M7S4I5L8V2A
      @M7S4I5L8V2A Před 4 lety +7

      @@heathweeks1985 So you're saying that natives figured out how to ride horses in order to fight? Do you have any scans on that because I find it more possible that they saw Europeans doing it and decided to try it once wild horses became more prevalent in North America.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +20

      @@M7S4I5L8V2A , To fight and to hunt. Before they had horses the Indians would have to literally chase Buffalo on foot, and those Buffalo are the main reason Indians never created a centralized concrete society. Much like the Reindeer nomads, Mongolians, in eastern Europe... You are right though. I doubt Indians learned to ride strictly to fight, but once they discovered how many things could be done on horseback their skills sky rocketed.

  • @belaboured
    @belaboured Před 3 lety +20

    Eugen Herrigel's talks about this, how Japanese archery was different from Western methods. It was to develop an instinctual approach, not an objectively aimed approach. Crucially, they were trying to recover the quality of feeling a baby has in their hands. If you think about it, when you learn archery intensively as a child before the age of 8 you're more likely to have an instinctual grasp that doesn't rely on all the thinking brain stuff that becomes more dominant, particularly in our culture, later. Before 8 that little sliver of orbital-frontal brain on the left side that's so objectively oriented isn't yet competent. After 8 it becomes dominant, and that's the brain we train so heavily in western culture. But if you want to become a concert musician, it's best if you got years of the right instruction that point.

    • @romuloambay9624
      @romuloambay9624 Před rokem

      what was called instinctual approach could be considered as a developed and internalized skill. .this could be attained when a would be warrior started training from a primary age . . .

  • @jmgmarcus808
    @jmgmarcus808 Před 4 lety +95

    A thong?!?! Joe "right to the gutter" Rogane.

    • @CoreyMKimball
      @CoreyMKimball Před 4 lety +1

      jmgmarcus 😆

    • @masoudsarvin6117
      @masoudsarvin6117 Před 4 lety +2

      He's just keeping us grounded my dude.😉😁

    • @jazmiller8947
      @jazmiller8947 Před 3 lety

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 love it when something happens just as you scroll past the comment mentioning it

  • @Casedilla73
    @Casedilla73 Před 4 lety +11

    I’m pretty sure that Lars wasn’t saying that ancient people did tricks, he’s using the tricks to show how skilled those people could be.

    • @mweskamppp
      @mweskamppp Před 2 lety +4

      In training they did tricks for sure. The sarazene archery books gives even rules for some of the tricks. the turkish had already archery sport diciplines in medieval times. Unrelated to war. Why would the old egyptians and other civilizations not have it?

    • @Casedilla73
      @Casedilla73 Před 2 lety

      @@mweskamppp Good point

  • @veshtitsacraftsandtunes4693

    seeing the guy hanging from the horse made me cry a little idk why

  • @selectiveeye4370
    @selectiveeye4370 Před 4 lety +84

    There's a reason they managed to fight an entire 400 years. Remember the glory of Native Americans Warriors. Celebrate their steadfastness. There can only one victor where battle exists

    • @Chris-gh2qk
      @Chris-gh2qk Před 3 lety +1

      Michael Srite no.

    • @klife67
      @klife67 Před 3 lety +7

      Confederate soldiers were fighting for a way of life. Natives were fighting for their life.

    • @lgporra
      @lgporra Před 3 lety +14

      @Michael Srite Remember to study a little more about history, the natives were fighting for their lifes and culture, the confederates were a bunch of traitors fighting for slavery.

    • @guycalgary7800
      @guycalgary7800 Před 3 lety

      Takes time to conquer a continent on horseback!

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 Před 3 lety

      Some much for the noble savage, huh?

  • @137_Diego_
    @137_Diego_ Před 3 lety +33

    The Native people of these lands certainly were cool af! Such a rich and amazing history all around them! 💯💯💯
    I absolutely cannot wait for them to get back into the game! They're still here fighting for that second wind! It'll be outta this world 🙌🏼

    • @SneakyDolly
      @SneakyDolly Před 3 lety +1

      Hell yeah!! Can’t wait!!

    • @donut_seed9813
      @donut_seed9813 Před 2 lety +3

      Read the guests book empire of the summer moon. Then come back and tell is if you think theyre "cool" skilled yes. Cool? Absolutely not.

    • @redman4316
      @redman4316 Před 2 lety +1

      @@donut_seed9813 my wife is Comanche and half the shit they’re saying it’s not true!

    • @JM-fo1te
      @JM-fo1te Před 2 lety

      No mames

    • @hellothere4599
      @hellothere4599 Před 2 lety

      US Goverment just give native Americans 10% of the USA land , thats fair for their population size and probably still practical.
      They would live off the land and help reduce emissions and climate change

  • @joshlewis575
    @joshlewis575 Před 4 lety +151

    Oh I love when people in comment sections know more than the PhD in the room. Who would've thought there were so many masters level historians out there

    • @86madee
      @86madee Před 4 lety +6

      or maybe they get info from another PhD

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 Před 4 lety +7

      Yep I'm sure all these people in the comments talking about the mongols. 1st went and found a PhD level Mongolian historian then read up on said history then decided to pop off. Sure that's how it went down. So yeah like I said

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero Před 4 lety +6

      @buggeroff I think what ill instead do is not put much stock into what YOURE saying.

    • @revo1974
      @revo1974 Před 4 lety

      Josh Lewis Or place him under a board of wood and then eat, drink and rejoice victory while standing and sitting on top of it.

    • @joshlewis575
      @joshlewis575 Před 4 lety

      @buggeroff yep the 3 people I know who have them really had time to party during that grueling school work. Damn people are dense these days

  • @paulh9979
    @paulh9979 Před 4 lety +8

    It's called instinctual archery. For example : when you toss a ball at a glove you don't close or eye... you just "feel" where it should go.

  • @aidenchavez5333
    @aidenchavez5333 Před 3 lety +18

    as a native american I can safely say nearly all native tribe in the southwest can ride and fight. this fighting style became common once the Spanish came with the horses

  • @roberthockett270
    @roberthockett270 Před 3 lety +12

    Another of the great horse-riding steppe empires. The Sythians, Huns, Mongols, Magyars and Turkmen of the western hemisphere.

  • @matvas22
    @matvas22 Před 3 lety +11

    The way Joe says “I’m a bow hunter” at 6:07 is adorable 😂

  • @zakkziegler111
    @zakkziegler111 Před 23 dny

    There's an absolutely incredible part of McCarthy's Blood Meridian when The Kid goes into Mexico with a filibuster and they see what they think is a bunch of riderless horses coming onto them until it's way too late, because the Comanche were riding sideways and couldn't even be seen.
    The way that entire passage is written and the ensuing blood bath is absolutely incredible. Every word of it. Serious poetry.
    I'm surprised Joe's never read BM.

  • @chadrushing4685
    @chadrushing4685 Před 4 lety +10

    Parthian horseman: hold my arrow in your chest

    • @GiasJulii
      @GiasJulii Před 3 lety +1

      @Armin Wessler yeah but you have to realize the Parthians had fully armored men and horses at a time when no one else did, except maybe for their buddies up north the Scythians. That's why Marcus Crassus got his ass and head handed to him. At that time they supposedly had over 20k armored horsemen with lances add in a few thousand mounted archers an you have the recipe for disaster.

    • @brennancusick2390
      @brennancusick2390 Před 3 lety +3

      @Armin Wessler not an expert on steppe horsemen or native Americans, just my two cents. The native Americans had stone age technology and only had horses for a fraction of the time their asian counterparts did, and were able to hold off a much more advanced and numerous force for hundreds of years. Adding in that most native Americans were decimated by disease, not war, and it's pretty impressive that they did as well as they did.

  • @602douglas
    @602douglas Před 4 lety +4

    Hey Joe - love your show, and this one is great.

  • @elbeduinoandino
    @elbeduinoandino Před 4 lety +13

    For those who like to see what they are talking about there is a scene in the ballad of Buster Scruggs where you see the technique of hiding on the side of a horse is acted out, its amazing!

  • @paulp1a
    @paulp1a Před 4 lety +6

    What this man is referring to is "natural aim". They used their natural hand eye coordination to simply look at their target, draw the bow and quickly release-hitting their target.

  • @BjornBols
    @BjornBols Před 4 lety +10

    The best in their time, but the Parthians, Scythians, Mongolians, and countless steppic civilizations were the best of theirs in using bows on horseback

    • @BadForYourKidneys
      @BadForYourKidneys Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed, best horse archers in the north american World but the old world had archers with legendary skills that allowed them to conquer large swaths of the world.

  • @4stringedninja
    @4stringedninja Před 4 lety +7

    If any of you want to see a more actual historical archer who utilises his bow more or less like it was probably used in warfare (aka not a trickshooter like Andersen), check out Lajos Kassai, he does magyar/avar/mongol style of archery from horseback, insane speed and accuracy with a composite, using historical techniques, training and equipment.

  • @vegasrebel1889
    @vegasrebel1889 Před 4 lety +8

    This really makes me want to drop the guns and learn this "real" archery. Back to basics.

  • @rinasanchez4300
    @rinasanchez4300 Před 4 lety +28

    Joe “I’m a hunter” Rogan

  • @gabe30639
    @gabe30639 Před 4 lety +78

    Did Comanches do DMT?

  • @3_up_moon
    @3_up_moon Před 4 lety +9

    Those were the helicopters of their day.

  • @ipiledrivedalexjones6935
    @ipiledrivedalexjones6935 Před 4 lety +6

    I put the saddle on the museum Comanche horse
    - T.K. Kirkland

  • @diaryofanaxeman539
    @diaryofanaxeman539 Před 2 lety +5

    I am of Numunu ( Comanche ) ancestry .
    Many so called myths about my ancestors have been proven and many negative things have been debunked.
    But this master archer , Mr. Larson, is all to real, his archery is true magic !!!!

  • @justinhicks6424
    @justinhicks6424 Před 4 lety +7

    I’m loving these videos Joe, great content

  • @alexanderthesalz396
    @alexanderthesalz396 Před 4 lety +10

    The Nez Perce were incredible warriors with a horse culture that would have rivaled the Comanche. Joe, if you want to know more about what I’m referring to, look into the 1877 Nez Perce War. Read Alvin Josephy, Jr. or LV McWhorter especially. You will find some answers to your broader questions to Mr. Gwynne that was beyond the scope of his research on the Comanche people. As always, love your podcast brother! Thanks for discussing Native issues!

    • @gatocles99
      @gatocles99 Před rokem +2

      The Nez Perce did try to rival the Comanche... the Comanche won. They were enemies.

    • @steveelder5306
      @steveelder5306 Před 4 měsíci

      no way@@gatocles99

  • @khanimran7465
    @khanimran7465 Před 3 lety +3

    The comanche was truly Lord of the plains

    • @szeleddie
      @szeleddie Před 2 lety

      Yes in America of course!!!!

  • @TurnOntheBrightLights.
    @TurnOntheBrightLights. Před 4 lety +7

    Mongolians: hold my rain of arrows

  • @fendermcmarshall
    @fendermcmarshall Před 4 lety +7

    If you are living and in war with a bow then you have to be way next level or you won't be alive for long. These skills were do or die.

  • @Kruk1975
    @Kruk1975 Před rokem +3

    As a former college pitcher in baseball.
    You don’t “aim” the ball. You just throw it at a location. You repeat it often enough, you can hit a dime with a baseball.

    • @edbouquet1012
      @edbouquet1012 Před rokem

      Its interesting that you describe the process this way. I taught myself to play tennis netting a ball against a wall with a dotted painted line on it at my high school. I ended up with a killer backhand I never had to think about or see, just be in the moment and it found it’s spot.

    • @jshaw4757
      @jshaw4757 Před 11 měsíci

      Less thinking faster movement the better you get at that the more accurate and faster can be and it even goes too computer games when I was a kid just move n shoot n don't think just react I could do way better once I got good at it

  • @parisite99
    @parisite99 Před 2 lety +6

    Joe: They definitely did it, Anderson proves it.
    Also Joe: Did they actually use it, was it practical, who cares?! 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @dawilliamsfam3323
    @dawilliamsfam3323 Před 4 lety +7

    Joe "I'm a BowHunter" Rogan 😂🤣

    • @srod2987
      @srod2987 Před 4 lety +2

      Da Williams Fam he starts cutting off the PhD guy cuz he thinks he knows more cuz he’s a bow hunter!! Ahaha ya 🧐

    • @aceofspoons8382
      @aceofspoons8382 Před 4 lety

      He sounded offended right? Joe "Me real hunter too!" Rogan

  • @bigfootstudios7173
    @bigfootstudios7173 Před 4 lety +4

    my grandfather used to ride like the Comanche when he hunted he could ride on the side of the horse along the Elk herd and pick the bull he wanted and shot under the neck

    • @z-z-z-z
      @z-z-z-z Před 4 lety

      was he native american?

    • @bigfootstudios7173
      @bigfootstudios7173 Před 4 lety +2

      @@z-z-z-z No just a cowboy and his horse was well trained he could only do it with one horse since she was so smart she could even herd cattle by herself.

    • @nmarbletoe8210
      @nmarbletoe8210 Před rokem

      @@bigfootstudios7173 awesome horse and rider too

  • @Two2Hands
    @Two2Hands Před 4 lety +5

    1:00 he was thinking about his secret stolen ladies underwear collection

  • @scohills
    @scohills Před 3 lety +38

    They aren't called Indians..."and we still call them Indians...100's of years later" -Louis CK

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey Před 3 lety +5

      A good portion of "Native Americans" you meet PREFER Indian if you're not going to call them by their tribe. Native American is incredibly vauge.

    • @herbthompson8937
      @herbthompson8937 Před 3 lety +3

      Cowboys and INDIANS

    • @hukllankanchis1575
      @hukllankanchis1575 Před 3 lety +1

      @@nedisahonkey I prefer Native American, $5 Indians like to be called Indians

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey Před 3 lety

      @@hukllankanchis1575 Well doesn't really matter what you prefer, it's whatever the indigenous person in question prefers.

    • @darkpassenger65
      @darkpassenger65 Před 3 lety

      @@hukllankanchis1575 How about we call Native American's, "American" and call everybody else Tourists? I don't think that's too much to ask.

  • @nysportsfan2576
    @nysportsfan2576 Před 3 lety +16

    Wow the Comanche were incredible warriors

  • @gregmonk9037
    @gregmonk9037 Před 4 lety +1

    Ghengis: hold my barley mash'

  • @moreston4366
    @moreston4366 Před 4 lety +5

    Scythians, Mongols and all the other horsemen of the Eurasian Steppe

    • @jessesteele2620
      @jessesteele2620 Před 3 lety

      They had horses for hundreds of years before the comanche

  • @rickymiller6434
    @rickymiller6434 Před rokem +3

    I've been watching this podcast for a long time and am now just finding this.
    I'm Comanche. And I LOVE this! Glad to see this

  • @FlyboyGamer999
    @FlyboyGamer999 Před 4 lety

    Empire of the summer moon, a great book about the Comanches.

    • @mgrose1972
      @mgrose1972 Před 4 lety +1

      This is the author being interviewed.

  • @makerstudios5456
    @makerstudios5456 Před 4 lety +6

    Horses evolved in North America. Then they migrated out and died out in North America. The reason horses adapted so well to being re introduced to North America in the post Columbian era is because that’s where they came from originally.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +2

      Gotta love that revisionist history, eh! Lets see some links and proof of what you are claiming.... EDIT: Thanks to Rune scape for the information... Im not afraid to say im ignorant.

    • @Runescape99
      @Runescape99 Před 4 lety +7

      @@heathweeks1985 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_horse
      Took me less than a minute you derpy boomer.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Runescape99 , Dude, the youngest boomers are in their late 50s! And according to this article, the Indians themselves had a hand in the extinction of the horses... "extinction was linked to overexploitation by newly arrived humans of naive prey that were not habituated to their hunting methods."

    • @Runescape99
      @Runescape99 Před 4 lety +1

      @@heathweeks1985 read the first paragraph no one cares natives helped with extinction the topic was about horses evolving in north America.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Runescape99 , Never said anyone should care, im just making an observation.

  • @heathweeks1985
    @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +7

    Native Americans didnt even have horses until Europeans showed up... Can you imagine what kind of horsemanship they could have achieved if horses were native to the Americas? I think Europeans would have had a much harder time settling here if that were the case.

    • @M7S4I5L8V2A
      @M7S4I5L8V2A Před 4 lety

      That or they'd be kept alive for their horsemanship.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety +1

      @@M7S4I5L8V2A , The Indians kept alive? Or Europeans? The Indians were doomed from the start. You cant have stone age technology and expect to fight against metal armor, rifles and cannons.

    • @M7S4I5L8V2A
      @M7S4I5L8V2A Před 4 lety

      @@heathweeks1985 Never said anything of the sort. You were saying what if mstives had more time with horses and I said they may have been kept alive.

    • @heathweeks1985
      @heathweeks1985 Před 4 lety

      @@M7S4I5L8V2A , Turns out the Indians had a hand that drove native horses to extinction in North America... Straight from Wiki: "extinction was linked to overexploitation by newly arrived humans of naive prey that were not habituated to their hunting methods." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_horse

  • @daviddickey9832
    @daviddickey9832 Před 4 lety +5

    Oh look, more parallels with the huns and Mongols.

  • @steelereels7500
    @steelereels7500 Před 19 dny

    I love that lars Anderson was brought up hes the man

  • @JacobC479
    @JacobC479 Před 2 lety +9

    The fact they learned to shoot when the horse was in the air during gallop is insane.. yall realize how badass the comanches are?

    • @bryanjames7528
      @bryanjames7528 Před rokem +1

      Thats the only time that's stable enough to shoot an arrow accurately when riding a horse at full speed. All the great horse people figured it out, from Mongols to Turks, to Huns and the Native horse tribes.

    • @smokeymcpot69
      @smokeymcpot69 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah it's kind of a natural realization...

  • @chuggon7595
    @chuggon7595 Před 4 lety +6

    Joe "have you ever tried peyote" Rogan

  • @collinwoodard5116
    @collinwoodard5116 Před 4 lety +4

    Mongols: Am I a joke to you?

  • @jeanfourcade
    @jeanfourcade Před rokem +2

    The Mongol's widely witnessed and documented legendary archery skills date over a thousand years back. The Romans regularly documented similar unbelievable horseback archery, short- and long-range accuracy being displayed by the Parthians during their numerous grand-scale battles (-53bc through 216 ad). The famous "Parthian shot" (the horse archer accurately shoots over the rump of his horse during a feigned tactical retreat designed to lure enemy cavalry in pursuit) was a devastating tactic developed to perfection by the Mongols of the XIII th century.

  • @mefford67
    @mefford67 Před 2 lety +1

    “Rides the Wind” is an excellent book about Cynthia Ann Parker’s life story. You’ll be left grieving the loss of the Comanche Nation despite all the blood being spilled by Texans and Native Americans.

    • @mitchrapp412
      @mitchrapp412 Před rokem

      Yea she refused to convert back when her family was finally caught and starved her self to death in captivity

  • @THAREALKASHANOVA
    @THAREALKASHANOVA Před 4 lety +4

    Joe I'm an Archer Rogan
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Warhero1171
    @Warhero1171 Před 4 lety +4

    The Comanche probably developed these skills while fighting with other tribes, as well as the Spanish. They had been fighting on the great plains long before whites arrived. Not to mention the fact that they are trained intensively from a young age to fight, and lived a life of constant peril.

    • @rustysawyers5109
      @rustysawyers5109 Před 2 lety +1

      The Comanche were the American version of Spartans...trained from childhood for warfare. Warrior society.

    • @bryanjames7528
      @bryanjames7528 Před rokem

      @@rustysawyers5109 lotta Native tribes were trained at young age to fight especially since lotta tribes lived among enemy tribes

  • @Skeithyy
    @Skeithyy Před 4 lety +3

    I didn't know they were especially known for their horsemanship. Now the Watchmen episode title 'Martial Feats of Comanche Horsemanship' makes more sense.

  • @marshalmarshall2109
    @marshalmarshall2109 Před 4 lety +2

    * Cough Cough Mongols Cough *

  • @barbarapoznik7218
    @barbarapoznik7218 Před 3 lety +5

    women in the tribes would lead horses into a river and then slide up on their backs.horses were reluctant to buck in water thus loosing their footing.horses dont like to lose their footing to being with.lt made the horses easier to gentle and begin bonding and trusting their owners.
    Also indigenous folks of some tribes called horses 'Thunder Dogs' which l found spoke volumes about the relationship with the horse.Great book by the way.B.P

    • @ursula868
      @ursula868 Před 7 měsíci

      I've also heard horses referred to as "sacred dogs", I think from Navajo.

  • @israeltrevino5368
    @israeltrevino5368 Před 4 lety +28

    This conversation is to mature for Joe's base.

    • @0dyss3us51
      @0dyss3us51 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes pretty obviously judging from the comments

    • @dickgozinya3618
      @dickgozinya3618 Před 4 lety +4

      Let me guess, you two are Democrats.

    • @shermanchester68
      @shermanchester68 Před 4 lety

      How? (Speaking in Comanche)...😆

    • @docgima
      @docgima Před 4 lety +6

      Dick Gozinya Nice job bringing politics into something unrelated.

  • @BRIZZY-fq5jw
    @BRIZZY-fq5jw Před 2 lety +1

    Idk why the drive by bow shot was so funny but imagine Compton in the 90s and someone doing a drive by with a bow🤣

  • @bbsaid218
    @bbsaid218 Před 3 lety

    Were their bows compound bows? Horn and sinew etc., or wooden

    • @Sixrabbbit
      @Sixrabbbit Před 3 lety +1

      They were sinew backed composite bows likely made with Osage orange or other woods.

  • @shanebisme
    @shanebisme Před 4 lety +4

    Just remember it takes him like 1000 attempts for him to pull off those tricks. He cant do it on demand. But its still awesome and very difficult. Alot if skill required.

  • @DavidGarcia-zu3hl
    @DavidGarcia-zu3hl Před 3 lety +5

    This is a very cool presentation. After watching it, maybe it would be interesting to see a comparison--as it relates to riding and archery abillities--to compare them to the Mongols. That would be interesting!

    • @jaredschmidt8013
      @jaredschmidt8013 Před 3 lety

      The Mongols conquered far more people and land with bows and arrows than the Comanche. But to be fair to the Comanche, the Mongols had much less competition. Comanche’s lived among and battled against tribes like the Apache, Navajo, Kiowa, etc. for thousands of years (along with the American Army for hundreds of years). All of whom were crazy skilled warriors.
      In a war between Mongols vs. Comanche, I still give Mongols the victory because their skill and ruthlessness as soldiers is simply unparalleled. But I do think the Comanche had harder competition to fight against.

    • @mweskamppp
      @mweskamppp Před 2 lety

      @@jaredschmidt8013 I would not say that. The mongolians were technically more advanced. Did successfully siege large fortified cities, used canons. (the europeans learned to use guns and gunpowder from the mongolian attacks).

    • @bryanjames7528
      @bryanjames7528 Před rokem

      @@mweskamppp Mongols weren't technically superior. They were primarily horsemen and considered anything else like fighting on foot, or using advanced weaponry like crossbows or seige machines beneath them. They had Chinese engineers and other lesser people they subjugated to build and operate them.

    • @mweskamppp
      @mweskamppp Před rokem

      @@bryanjames7528 Also the mongols adapted superior technology over the generations. And europe was kind of behind some other regions regarding technology. Until about 1800 europe imported top steel from near east or india. In tamil nadu crucible steel was produced since 500bc. Later in the near east as well.

    • @altanbayar
      @altanbayar Před rokem

      @@bryanjames7528 Educate yourself with my ancestors history with Josh Carlin’s Wrath of Khans. I can’t deny that man’s speech as a Mongolian.

  • @joherold
    @joherold Před 4 lety

    'yea i'm a bow hunter' lol te guy had no idea lolol

  • @stevegilley1143
    @stevegilley1143 Před rokem +1

    I am a descendant of Texas settlers in north central Texas and the brutality of the Comanche is beyond description. The killing of whites, Spanish and blacks was usually with torture and little to no regard to taking captives. Captives were slaves and Comanche women usually were the cruelest to the slaves. The brutality of Comanches even caused original Texas Indians to plead with Mexico, the Texas Republic and the US governments for protection. Keep in mind the Comanches moved into original Texas Indians' territorial lands in the early 1810 or earlier from their lands further north. Even other Indian tribes feared and hated the Comanche.

  • @joannejohnston1703
    @joannejohnston1703 Před 2 lety +3

    William the Conquerer was able to do this. Even though he was a big corpulent man. He rode large European horses . He was able to ride and bring down a kill all at the same time.

  • @AwesomeBlueDie
    @AwesomeBlueDie Před 4 lety +8

    im loving how everyone beat me to the Mongolian argument; was my go to when i read the title

  • @pschmidtke4011
    @pschmidtke4011 Před rokem +1

    James Wilson Nichols was my great, great, great grandfather on my grandmother's side (Dad's mom) I read his journal, "Now You Hear My Horn" in 5th grade so Texas history was a breeze. Interestingly, my great uncles were still fighting Comanche in the 1920's in Bandera Pass...

  • @ghostinquisitor7743
    @ghostinquisitor7743 Před 3 lety +2

    In agree with the quiver mythm. they were primarly used for domestic and private hunting purposes. Take for instant the English Longbowmen at the battle of Agincourt, they don't just stand still in an even stationary line. They were building trenches, forts, palisades and wooden stakes; and they don't even carry arrows on their backs.
    All they ever did was station the baggage wagon behind the archery line, where the fight might be, tasked the drivers or any of the staff members to grab and refilled the Long with stacks of arrorws for each hand. And repeate this run around over and over.
    That way if they need to run (well can't out run mounted knights obviously) they run WITH the baggage wagon and set up a new position. And mind you, they DON'T shoot arrows over the heads (arcking shots) of allies, unless they had a hill archery lines shoot straight. Meaning they NEED clear line of sight.

  • @kutsbothways
    @kutsbothways Před 3 lety +12

    "I'm a Bow-hunter," I knew there was another reason I liked Joe.

  • @mrfabuloso69
    @mrfabuloso69 Před 4 lety +4

    Joe: The Comanches where small, 5'10".

    • @shermanchester68
      @shermanchester68 Před 4 lety

      They blended in with the steppes TOO!

    • @Sixrabbbit
      @Sixrabbbit Před 3 lety

      The Comanches were actually the tallest people in the world at that time.

  • @alanwood5857
    @alanwood5857 Před 4 lety +2

    That's a great episode.

  • @ipadmini1874
    @ipadmini1874 Před 7 dny

    The Comanche were incredible horse men. The Spanish, The Mexican, & The Apche all got steamed rolled by The Comanche.
    The Comanche were called The Tiger of The Human species by Europeans. The Europeans couldn't believe how incredible they were on horse.
    Well seasoned European high ranking Military men said they were easily the greatest Calvery they'd ever seen. Everybody that faced The Comanche would lose. They were a real power house.