Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom BIGGER World!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Echoes of Wisdom is a Bigger Top Down Zelda game. All thanks to an expanded Hyrule from A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds!
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Was just thinking about this… the only time we see snowy mountains to the northeast is in lorule in albw…what if this is hundreds of years in lorule after the triforce was restored…
Wait nvm I forgot about the regular triforce imagery
I think there's zero percent chance of it happening but I think it would be awesome if we saw signs of Links Adventure like a Dungeon where there's a chest open or finding a spot where normally you'd use a hookshot to get to, maybe I'm the only one but I think it would be pretty cool since I'm sure he explored Dungeons before fighting Ganon
I still have hope for a post game or mid-game/prequel with Link, mid game if he gets an echo, as sure he could just be a maximized Link with master sword and mirror shield, but since it looks like they gave him a kit I would wager we have a substory with him in the void before we copy him at least.
I hope Nintendo hasn't forgotten the important things that has always been a part of Zelda in Echoes of Wisdom: her divine powers ( since she carries Hylia's bloodline), her intellect, and her main weapon (her Bow of Light).
I hope the bow of light ends up being kind of like her master sword. She gets it after a few dungeons as a big power boost.
no fr like they gave her a gimmick as her main attack… shes literally a reincarnation of a goddess, give her her magic smh
Zelda's wisdom is not brainy, it's most importantly spiritual and intuitive
@@danielmatson4209 I've been thinking the same. I don't mind the echo mechanic at all, but it would be werid for a playable Zelda game to not give her the Bow of Light. She even has it in the goofy 80's cartoon! The free spaces on the D-Pad in the trailer give me hope we can switch to it later on, and they just aren't showing us everything.
@@KairiKey989 It's also weird for me that coming after Links Awakening HD in terms of engine the echo mechanic only utilizes one spot on the Dpad and the Y button since the remake for LA gave us buttons for so many items as a quality of life feature. I don't think Nintendo would make the mistake of only giving us one mappable face button it seems so strange.
I think that the jungle will be a Faron region similar to the one in botw, which is why it has rain, tropical trees and birds. I'm looking forward to seeing how this game blends open air zelda with traditional zelda
8:40 Deku scrubs are in the Minish Cap tho. You literally fight one as the first enemy encounter in the game during the Picori Festival prologue after obtaining the shield while link and zelda are heading to Hyrule Castle.
yes, one of the things im looking forward to in this game is to see what lies beyond the borders of the old alttp map, i hope we can explore it
OMG... didn't think of that, that alone would make it one of the best Zelda's I really they do and can somehow manage a huge plot twist that you just barely missed in ALTTP. ❤️❤️❤️
Whenever a New Zelda drops so does my heart. September cant come soon enough
What do you think of the expansion of the map from A Link to the Past?
I'm personally excited. You forgot to mention the void areas unless I got distracted.... watching the video.... These look fun...
@@johnnyringo35 Mainly focused on the areas added to the overworld / Hyrule map
I had read the manga adaptation, and I am a bit sad that Link and Zelda aren't together.
My hope for Echoes of Wisdom is their relationship becomes more mutual and turned into a romance (since Zelda wears Link's hood).
To me it means a bigger game and more play time on a brand new experience ❤
I’m really excited for it! Zelda appears to be standing on top of ALttP’s southernmost map edge when looking out northwest over the kingdom during the title reveal. There’s little room for an entire desert and jungle biome from that point northward so it seems like we’re only seeing one half of the entire overworld map in that shot. I can’t wait to explore it all!
So excited for this game
Curious to see how open air gameplay fits in a 2D plane
I hope we can play as Zelda without the cape on. I feel like they made her wear this so the game doesn’t come across too girly and would appeal to boys more
I just hope the dungeons aren’t random structures who’s only purpose in the world is for the player to explore. TP method needs to make a return
Yeah I am a little worried we won't get actual Dungeons back but I hope we do that's the main thing lacking from BOTW and TOTK and why ALBW is still my favorite Zelda game
I couldn’t agree more. The feeling of exploring Arbiters Grounds was like you were in some terrifying ancient place that you should NOT be in. Same for the shadow temple from OOT. Also any kind of cave or ruin almost always feels natural in any Zelda game. Blinds hideout even feels lived in.
The dungeons of ALTTP are some of my favorite parts of any Zelda game, and any Nintendo game at all! It's a shame the dungeons of BOTW and TOTK even feel very lacking and stale. The bossfights are also kind of anticlimactic for the most part
@@epicgeometro the content of them are fine but the “random doorway placed randomly” nature of them is what I found disappointing.
I like when they exist for a purpose for decades before it becomes a dungeon for Link. NPCs walking around and using it for its purpose or talking about its reasoning in the world. Iirc, ALTTP and ALBWs, Zelda 1 and 2, Oracle games etc..they’re just like sonic rails. No reason for it to be in the map except for it being exclusively for the player to use.
TP goron mines are a mine. You can see what they do there, some gorons are still in it, and it is part of the lives of the population that lives there and a part of their every day life for example
@@SheikAshii I just like the more puzzle and key-focused dungeons of A Link to the Past more. It's just preference, and I get that that wouldn't really have worked in TOTK as well as a traditional-style game
Fantastic video! This is such an exciting time :)
Here are some rambly thoughts of mine whilst watching...
As you said, snow was not present in Hyrule in the ALINKs but was its interesting to note Lorule's Death Mtn was snowy.
The trailer shot w/ Business Scrub seems to show Death Mountain being RIGHT UP AGAINST Kakariko, like closer even than in Ocarina of Time. I wonder are the Lost Woods now between Volcanic Death Mountain and the Snowy Mountains - perhaps that big hazy tree area far beyond the Castle in the cliff-view shot?
I'm sure we are getting an actual coastline where those spiky monsters are hey, something like FSA has - I'd love it to lead to some sort of hint of the Village of the Blue Maiden. We've now had that, TP's Hidden Village, and the OPENAIR's combo of Hateno AND Japanese-Kakariko taking suburban(?) Hyrule and the legacy of Kakariko in different directions.
Thoughts on the Deku Tree being somewhere beyond the Lost Woods... or possibly in Flute Boy's little tree haven?
Those river shops really remind me of Oracle of Seasons' Sunken Village.
Imagine if the Anouki showed up on the NE mountain!
Another thing Tears of the kingdom lacks on is seeing multiple perspectives (Link and Zelda) in the story itself. A playable Zelda would of help us get more of her journey in the distant past, give more in depth backstory of who Ganondorf is, the ancient sages more fleshed out, and answered some burning questions fans had been asking like 'who are the Zonai'.
While the themes of building the community and sacrifice is there, othere themes like overcoming trauma, idealism vs realism, and confronting Rauru's ideal of *eternal peace* is also what the game lacks.
I've been wanting a top-down Zelda game with various races introduced in the 3d games present, and I'm ecstatic we seem to finally be getting that. Two types of zora, sheikah, gerudo, and deku scrubs are all confirmed. Gorons are all but confirmed with the settlement we can see on Death Mountain. And I wouldn't be surprised if we finally see Rito in a top-down game in the Hebra region.
so I was curious about what the -•- symbol could mean, and you mentioned Morse code. So in english Morse code it's the letter R, but in Japanese Morse code it's the symbol for Na. Quick google research told me that adding Na to the end of a sentence is meant to convey emphasis or emotion, and in other situations it's meant to leave the sentence open to discussion (like saying "the food is good, right?") So I think it's meant to be like a Morse code version of an exclamation point symbol.
It looks like each corner is death mountain (top right), gerudo desert (bottom left), lurelin jungles (bottom right), but what will the top right be? Also, in BoTW most of the mounts are snow covered and ToTK shows there is lava activity under hebra. Perhaps in the volcanic chain of hyrule, whatever is active is always labeled death mountain while the inactive becomes the snow covered hebra? This explains how they could switch on the map.
0:02 The art style is based on the Link's Awakening remake and A Link Between Worlds was literally _one game._ Also Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks say hi.
You're really, REALLY making a leap in logic assuming Hyrule will be based on LttP's Hyrule...
And the most important thing is bigger isn't even better, if its dense it does not matter.
And it looks like they are aiming for greater density along with bigger Top down overworld :)
I got money on the fact that when you go into the dark you play as link to level up zelda.... bet on it!
Looks more ambitious and I hope this doesn't result in even more frame rate dips... Link's Awakening remake was a great game but the slow down on Switch was very distracting... when you walk out of houses in the Mabe Village and even the swamp area was almost unplayable... and I'm not one who typically complains about frame rate, even if it's a stable 30fps...
I always thought they should have went with a staple 30fps for Link's awakening remake rather than a unstapple 60fps
@@battlesofparadise i want to experience this Link to the Past inspired map with very little dips... it seems to be 60fps again in EoW so hopefully this time around they can iron it out... the world looks even bigger than in Link's Awakening with playable areas even inside the rifts...
With how much they're revisiting ALttP Hyrule, I really want then to explore Zelda 1/Zelda IT'S Hyrule at some point (although without the zoomed out world aspect). Preferably a new 2D Hyrule would be perfection, but why not bring back the OG Hyrule for at least one more entry.
What a great analysis. You always have the best Zelda deep dives. Can’t wait for this game.
Would be cool to also have a game in the future where you play as ganondorf then we get full circle: courage, wisdom and power.
Wow! You made me realized something: Echoes of Wisdom's Hyrule is similar but more expanded to the ones from A Link to The Past and A Link Between Worlds. Great analysis you've pulled.
A combo of the Best of Top Down and 3D Hyrule!
Aside from puzzles and new equipment, maybe an underworld and sky islands would be a nice touch.
Tears of the kingdom?
@@MikeCheckBiloxi echoes of wisdom
No more sky islands
I don't play much 2D games nowadays, but this looks fuckin awesome!
But can she make a kitchen?
Link to the past was one of my favorite game. I can't wait to play this one.
Something I haven't seen any youtuber point out yet, the snowy mountain is almost confirmed to be Hebra because that's what it was called in ALTTP and ALBW. It being called Death Mountain is the western translation. So the "new" mountain on the left is actually Death Mountain, which is its actual first time appearing in the ALTTP world
0:16 the stone statues from ALTTP in the top middle are just mounds in this, is it laziness or a hint that it takes place before they were created?
It truly is heavily based on ALTTP
The cave on lake hylia's island even has the island west of it that you could access a heart piece on by using the magic mirror
God i cant wait for this game
Take a shot everytime he says "breath if the wild and tears of the kingdom"
I'm so READY to play this Zelda this September!
I'm very excited for this game.
My only question about Gerudo Town is why would Zelda have to sneak into it? Unless it’s sealed off to all Hylians for some reason, she should just be able to walk in.
1000 IQ nice analysis
I want this NOW
I hope the overworld is much bigger than we expect. Like 5 times the size of ALTTP. Either way, it's going to be super fun.
@commonwealthrealm honestly, we have seen these areas before. The expanded areas are in the original Legend of Zelda map. This game like, ALTTP and ALBW, takes place in what would be the Gerudo Desert in BOTW. My prediction is that in the snow covered we will find Spectacle Rock.
This bigger map got me thinking, I wounder how open Nintendo is to a reimagining of the Oracle games in that it would be silly to remake the Oracle two or even three games if you want to count secrets when you can take the idea and some of the mechanics of the Oracle games and have it take place across two or three expansive kingdoms right next to each other.
They mirrored it because they decided to make Link left-handed at the last minute and that was just the easiest way to do it.
Hah, and We get another effing Rock boss too it seems!
SO Many F-ing Rocks in Echoes of Wisdom! :D
@@commonwealthrealm 😄
I wish they (Camelot) would make a Golden Sun game using Echoes of Wisdom as a blueprint and the same art style
30-50%? I think it will be bigger. Think of how blown away we all were by the scope of Breath. It's easy to forget, now, that we've had Tears - which sort-of tripled the size of Breath - but with huge empty spaces in the sky, and lots of copy-paste, didn't feel all that much bigger. But Breath was so much bigger than previous 3D games, and felt so real and deep, it was a genuine game changer. That's going to be their goal with the first new top-down Zelda game since then, and with the simpler top-down model, there is no reason they can't do something that will take our breath away and bring us to tears when we realize how big this game world really is.
I just can't wait to experience this game
The thing I’m most looking forward to in Echoes of Wisdom is playing as Zelda.
Can't wait for this game
I'm excited to hop on top of trees. Really exemplifies the open-nature, boundary pushing element of this game. EofW is to LttP as BotW was to OoT... or so we can hope!
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In anticipation I'm replaying alttp and albw. About halfway through alttp now. Might even play the elusive ww/tp as well on wii u if there's time.
A link between worlds is a genuine contender for my favourite zelda.
I don't entirely know what I want, yet, but there are several things I have wanted, and this game is offering. I have long wanted a Zelda game to give me Ganon back. Not Gdorf; a human-looking person with human desires, and ambitions, but the pg demon sorcerer monster who is evil because he is. He's bringing the Trident of Power back, instead of some sword, and won't just be one middle phase in a sprawling Gdorf fight. LttP is still my favorite Zelda game, so going to to even just something like it is great, and will scratch my nostalgia itch, after so many years of Tears, Wild, and Skyward Sword being "the Zelda games. There were others, sure, and I really liked LBW, but I can honestly say it's been a long time since Twilight Princess, and that was my last great main console Zelda game. I also like that, even being top-down, it won't totally abandon the sky, as a dimension, and it will also be a bit puzzly, if you will. I enjoyed Oracle of Ages for its more puzzle focus, and I think this one will be fun for that, too. I really did hope for Tears to at least have a segment where we used Zelda, and could cover some of the "leveling up" of a sequel, instead of burning Link back down in hearts, and acting like he didn't do so much, and thus didn't have so much of his gear, again, in a direct sequel, but getting a whole game where we use her, instead of just saving her, making her a gimmick, like on Spirit Tracks, or calling the game Wand of Gamelon, is also something that I hope to love.
We have seen the sea zora and Deku scrubs in topdown Zelda, in the Oracle games
But not in Hyrule. Besides it is about all of these races being present at once in A Link Hyrule
What if the rifts are the the dream world from links’s awakening
Hopefully that means it doesn't run into the same issues as the last 2 prior open world zeldas. I personally am not too fond of the gameplay that was shown and echo abilities, it reminds me too much of botw/totk
I was expecting more of a traditional zelda experience this time around and kinda wish they went with a artstyle similar to (A link between worlds) it's so much more pleasing than the plastic look of link's awakening remake in my opinion.
Considering it's only .3 gigs larger than Link's Awakening Remake, I'm expecting a pretty small map or at least a sparsely populated one if it's much bigger than Koholint.
Hm that's sounds like a pretty small difference indeed. So, EOW: ~6.1gb, ALTP: ~5.8, TOTK: 16.3, BOTW: ~14.4. So EOW has appr. a 5% bigger filesize, while TOTK has a 13% bigger filesize. Although I've no idea how it translates to the amount of content ;).
The Nindie guys are pretty good at optimization
@@egonnes I don't doubt them, they just built a game that was 5.8 gigs a couple years back and now they're building one that is .3 gigs larger using the same graphics and engine so I'm expecting another small game.
The file size Don't mean anything. Most LA file is for Dampe dungeuns make
@@mateus53415 That sounds biased, copey, and unsupported. Can you cite where you got your info?
Rinku no Densetsu: Chie no Karimono
Maybe you can play as Zelda in the Second quest of this game after defeating ganon
I hope this game isn’t too easy because of “hacked” exploration.
Is it me or does anyone else think they can get two games out of this map? Do this one with Zelda and then another one using link?
The sea Zora aren't new to top down Zelda. There were a few in the Oracle games
"in Hyrule" ok, nevermind
Wait, I'm confused, shouldn't this be called "The Legend of Link"? XD
A Link Between Worlds isn't a remake. It's a sequel to A Link to the Past.
EDIT: Also, we've seen the Sheikah in top down Zelda - Impa has been in several games.
But not in Sheikah attire and civilization. Just as an old caretaker
You basically decorate the entire world map to proceed in the game.
The question to ask is if these things you place down eventually despawn. If things don't despawn I will be picking up the game.
They will definitely despawn. Tri has triangles that trail behind it to indicate how many echoes you can create at one time. If you look at the trailer, when a bed echo is made, one of those triangles flies over to hover above the bed, showing it takes one charge to create it. So in order to get triangles/charges back, the echoes will need to despawn
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I just want items back for Link and good dungeons and maybe good lore but we can't ask for much from Nintendo nowadays
The Deku are in MC.
Forgot to say top down supervised by Nintendo. The Capcom Zelda team had a lot of creative liberty. With it we got the genius of director Hidemaro Fujibayashi.
@@commonwealthrealm They're also in 4SA and TFH, both made by Nintendo EAD...
Already knew from the trailer that it was superior to TOTK
I mean…. You don’t though do you. It’s not even out yet.
I admit I'm team Link. Still excited for this game. Playing as Zelda will be fresh and I'll give it its proper due....
Good see you back making Videos, good sir!
I always thought we were playing as zelda so now just playing as the chick we always save. I don't follow the story much I'm gameplay skip cut scenes player
I look forward to it not being Breath of the Wild for a 3rd time
I dunno why but the "play ad Zelda" bit gave me Super Princess Peach vibes.... heres hoping its better than that game
It already appears to be :)
I want challenging puzzles, multiple outfits, and the ability to decorate Zelda's room in the castle.
I can imagine decorating is already hinted.. granted you have an unimaginable amount of things to collect. You basically decorate the entire world map.
The question to ask is if these things eventually despawn. If things don't despawn I will be picking up the game
@@epiclight858they absolutely despawn. You can only have so many active at once, as the little triangles that float behind the companion vanish as zelda summons objects and enemies, and reappear when the item is gone. So either they vanish when you place a new one, or you have to manually delete them to place new objects, OR they disappear after some amount of time. Sorry to burst your bubble :( I still think you should consider getting the game regardless, though, as I'm certain there will be some sort of decorating room where you can place and arrange all of your collected Echoes!
I was disappointed we didn’t get to play as Zelda in TOTK.
Could you imagine the possibilities of playing in the distant Past?
@@commonwealthrealm I can think of her combat to use recall ability as the Sage of Time while using her light powers to vanquish her enemies.
As for puzzle solving, she would rely on her Purah Pad to navigate her surroundings and stuff.
Sonia starts trading Zelda while being heavily pregnant with hers and Rauru’s child.
Twinrova would be the perfect boss battle before confronting Ganondorf in the imprisoning chamber.
And make the Ancient Sages more fleshed out as she interacts with them.
That’s how I pictured that possibility.
You and me both. It would’ve helped the TOTK story since it has been divided into two parts. Personally I would like to see more of her journey in the distant past.
@@a.jthomas6132 Plus given us a truly ancient Hyrule to explore.
@@commonwealthrealm Exactly! That’s something I think we all wanted to see. A Hryule of the Imprisoning War for us to explored.
And of course the Sky islands where the Zoras and Rito race are inhabited there as well.
I wonder if the "Morse Code Stones" can also act as a fast charge for Tri once activated?
I've been begging for a new 2D Zelda mainly, because i don’t like the open world format of the recent 3D games breath of wild and tears and 2D Zelda’s are usually really strict with where you can go which I enjoy. Still going to play it, but I personally think restrictions in these games are what makes them so enjoyable to play
the open ended approach to solving puzzles and exploring just ruins that . There’s a lot of good in limitations that has been lost in the newer Zelda’s and that open ended gameplay has unfortunately crossed over to 2D Zelda from what I've seen from echoes of wisdom so far.
I just hope there's a balance, I miss needing to require an item in dungeon in order to progress the story and explore new areas of the overworld.
What in the fuxk
Your accent is a little too thick for me
I would rather play as link
Beat the game once and then you get to do the Link play-through
Play the other 20 Zelda games then bro
Same. Not gonna get this game because you can't play as Link.
@@HipnotikHylian Except two of the three CD-i games as those both feature Zelda too lol.
Damn this looks like the lamest looking game ever! I'm glad that I gave up on Nintendo years ago... I would still be waiting for a proper Zelda...yikes...
Not a game that I would play. Definitely not for me. I don’t want anything but link. Anybody who wants to play it is more than welcome to. I don’t really see this game selling that much.
Dumb take
That’s like saying Animal Crossing won’t sell much because it doesn’t have Link. And it’s the second best selling game on Switch only behind Mario Kart. This game could be huge. Finally excites tons of people waiting to play as Zelda for decades, and people that are just general Zelda fans that want anything different and good.
@@HipnotikHylian sticks and stones and all that
@@Ray-dl5mp we will see. I doubt it. Maybe a few diehard fans will. Most people won’t. It’s an end of generation game. Nintendo doesn’t have much confidence in it. At best, it’s a space filler. And it will probably do as well as Princess peach showtime did. Which isn’t well at all. Zelda is not meant to be a hero. She is the damsel. We already have protagonist that happen to be women. And they can create new protagonist that are women. Zelda is not meant to be a hero. Link is the hero of this series. I won’t play it. Some people will. But it won’t sell millions. In terms of animal crossing, it has it familiar tone and characters. People will play animal crossing. But they won’t play a spinoff of animal crossing.
@@Ash_Rein that is such a weird negative take. It won’t sell millions is just a bad take all the way around. This isn’t a peach game buddy. This is Zelda. Lots of hype. Most views of any game on the direct by far. Way more than Metroid and that had a huge buildup. Your negativity is not matching up with reality here. You sound like a guy that wants the game to fail. And your damsel take is so boring and just screams this is way society should be. Zelda as a damsel is boring. I want her playable or at least part of the story. You don’t have an open mind at all here. Which is your right. I’m sure some people share it. But Zelda is about puzzles and exploration. Not about Link.
Why why why bring back 2d zelda 😢 😭 😿
Why not? They're fun games and many of us grew playing them. They take less time and budget but still are profitable.
That's called a Win/Win as they say
OH MY GOFD, how could they possibly make the world BIGGER? BotW and TotK were enormous, empty NOTHINGS. They can't actually make it BIGGER? I'm not buying until I see someone else LP the thing. Giant waste of money, TotK.
Top Down Hyrule. Not Open World
@@commonwealthrealm , yeah, fair. I think I still stand with my point, though: I'm not wasting my money again. I haven't even BEATEN Botw or TotK.
Giant waste of money 😂 I've never disagreed with an opinion so much as this one.
@@ActiveAdvocate1 sounds like you didn't read
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