Vintage Marantz and Is It Worthy Of Buying?
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Prices are crazy for vintage Marantz (among other brands). Before you buy the blue light specials (yes, they are pretty) watch this first.
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I love vintage gear owned a reconditioned Pioneer integrated that sounded pretty good for what it was. However, in looking to obtain an old school receiver for a second audio system I quickly ruled out anything vintage. Agreed the asking price for most of it is now obscene. Especially when considering the likelihood of parts failure on something that was made 40 plus years ago. You may or may not find them for it. Recently saw a Sansui G-9000DB for $7999.99, as much of a fanboy I was of that piece, you could get into a new McIntosh MAC7200 for just a penny more. With an active warranty and parts readily available.
And this is exactly why I did this video and I thank you for confirming what I have been seeing in the market. I just did a follow up video really hammering the stupid prices for Marantz products from 1970 to 1974. Much of it is not of particular musical merit and it being basically pawned by those who go to estate sales to flip them. I am old enough to have actually sold them new for a dealer. Years later I had customers trade them in and in listening to them could only ponder "what was I thinking?" Some of the amplifier designs used transistors you can not get today and when they failed they cascaded onto one another taking out every power transistor on that channel. Glad you recognized the situation and saved yourself a lot of future grief.
Marantz did well in the UK with the CD 63 top loader CD player but it was basically a Philips CD 100 ( I think Marantz was owned by Philips at the time). Ken Ishiwata had input into the later CD designs and they became very popular over here - they still are. I have one, and the original Naim Nait. By the way, sorry to hear about the shooting in your country.
Well, I don't consider any CD player "vintage" for the purpose of these discussions. Most people consider the 60s, 70s the real vintage core and in terms of quality, certainly better than what happened in the late 70s up to the mid 80s. The early to mid 80s saw the rebirth of some quality audio like from Rotel, Creek, and a few others.
Sansui tuners ............indeed they were /are good.
The 1030 played.... MUSIC..............but people always wanted more power ....this ( illusdion ) hasn't changed.
The 1060 ..............decades ago I only used the preamp, it sounded decent with some good power amps..
One little amp i was happy with and I still have one is a Luxman L30.......also nice looks and kind of a gentle little music amplifier .
Have a nice day sir.
I played with all the preamps. None ever came a closer than a mile to the 7C I once owned. Actually owned 2 of them.
@@audibleeleganceinc Yep , I serviced one for a client and retubed it with the right tubes ( Telefunken )
Today and since I build my own tube preamps...
This is a great rundown and as someone who listened to a 70's Marantz receiver for years, I completely agree. They were OK, but not anything worth near what people are asking for them. Haven't owned any Sansui tuners but good to hear that they perform(ed) as well as their reputation indicated. Also interesting that the Marantz 1030 was similar sonically to the Naim Nait. You do realize that PRaT is nothing more than a marketing term? 🙂
I would not say the Marantz 1030 and the Nait sounded similar but rather both were musical little genius boxes in their days and both were the introductory pieces for both companies. I just thought it was a rather interesting comparison. The big difference was that as you went up the Naim line, it simply got better.
@@audibleeleganceinc Got it. Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I don't think I've heard that comparison before.
I think it is down to Lou's last comment plain and simple. The Marantz has the best look of the 70's receivers.
Randy, I really liked the Yamaha ones as well but they never sounded good at all. Marantz certainly beat those to a pulp.
Lou, there seems to be two versions of the 1030, one with Pre Out - Main In and one without. Is one more musical then the other?
The only ones I ever played with were those without. The ones with pre-outs might have a different part arrangement to accommodate the pre out option. Certainly the classic metal jumpers used between pre-out and main in should be replaced. Nothing more than chrome plated steel.
Lou, I have to wonder if the sound quality of the 1030 or the Sansui gear were merely accidental.
You know, that's a good question. All I know is that some of my best audiophile customers and their tuners. My favorite is the TU-717. So, I think there was some intent on their part. Sony was pretty good around this time too in receivers.
It's a matter of opinion. Their good. They have their own sound signature. Those guys on eBay are dreaming if they are gonna get that buy it now price.
If nothing else, thank you for contributing your view about the prices being asked and by many who are merely flipping them without a care.
I have a 2270 with the wood case in my collection, which i paid $350 for about 10 years ago. It's a gorgeous piece of gear. The facade alone is a masterpiece. As for the sound, it may be less detailed than my 9090db, but that's her voice, that's how she sounds.
@@jamiecantar8727 There is little doubt that many really became fascinated with the gyrotouch tuning dial right along with the bedroom blue dial. The cabinets were really quite good and as I owned Marantz, I too enjoyed the wood cabinets. $350 for it 10 years ago is a tad high but not unreasonably so. Now they are selling for $1500 (very bottom end to $4000 on ebay. So, I hope you don't mind my throwing some cold water on the brand from that era as the prices have become simply stupid. So, in your case, simply enjoy your prize.
Thanks Lou, it's equivalent to $265 us as I am in toronto. There is a company called Advance Paris A10 that tried to make a facade close to marantz mcintosh, but instead, it looks like their awkward uncle. I'm sure it sounds great and there is great new gear, my only argument is why would I spend $1500 + to get a slightly different sound but less in the looks department when I have pieces that sound and look amazing. And I'm sure I'm not alone in this. It would have to crush my $265 marantz 2270. It's all subjective. I haven't had a chance to study new gear. Anyway, keep making the videos. Cheers
All of the 70s equipment are extremely over priced. With the possible exception of McIntosh. As far as Sansui I remember the repair shops called them Sansewage because they needed constant repairs. And I still hear that complain to this day.
Exactly. You can get a great Rogue integrated amplifier or Rega for less than what a Marantz 2270 is fetching these days. It's just silly. $9000 fpr a Sansui 9090DB? You can get great separates for that and not have to worry about the FM tuner that nobody uses anymore.
This guy must only likes audio gear built by Chinese robots.
Why don't you take a visit to the Rogue Audio site. Their products are produced in Pennsylvania, USA. Or, wander over across the pond to Rega from England. There are plenty of options made around the world. China is not the only country that makes electronics. Odd, regardless, that you would cherish only products made in Japan.