NASCAR Heat: A Story of Low Expectations
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2020
- The NASCAR Heat series has had some troubles for a while. But after the last 5 games seemingly glossing over them and the way that fans have also seemed to go along with it I think it is time for someone to address them.
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The Geico Restart Zone was a bit high that day
The funniest bug is the winners trophy having the NASCAR Heat 4 logo on it.
I know. I thought I was hallucinating. I even went into the, “my games” on Xbox to make sure I didn’t accidentally buy NASCAR Heat 4.
theoriginalshew wow that’s disappointing to hear. i got heat 4 about 2 months ago and love it (haven’t played a nascar game since thunder series). i just don’t get why a.) the AI is coded to wreck you if they’re a “rival” and there’s no reward for having a high rep outside of sponsorships. and b.) there’s no presentation or anything that immerses you or brings the game to life. it’s all about details (correct trophies, caution replays, 100% authentic sponsor placements on custom cars) that bring the game to life.
When i saw it i was like"Bro i got scammed by Steam WTF" then i realised everyone haves it
F1 2020: implements a mode which could basically be given its own game
NASCAR Heat 5: yOu cAn dNf nOw!
Funniest thing is..that you really can't in its current state. DNFs are utterly broken lol
and you really can't dnf unless you over rev the engine
But I guess the good thing is the company that makes the F1 games acquired 704 Games. That would mean the next nascar game could be much better.
@@jaytonskari8613 or it could die
To be fair codemastes was shit until 2017 or 2018.
I’d like to see Codemasters try their hand at a Nascar game
Codemasters could kill a NASCAR game. I mean by shoot it out of the fucking water. Codemasters know exactly what needs to be where, has a great community, listens to there community, and continues to build better and better games every year. Whilst building Non-Racing games!
The thing is, Codemasters could make quite the simple game like F1 2012 but put a NASCAR badge on it, and it will already be one of the best NASCAR games ever
Well...Motorsports games (the new partner with 704 games is old codemasters people or something like that. So the next game could be a codemasters type game. Mortorsports games and 704 had nothing to with heat 5 besides push it out the door to us. Why else would they have such a late announcement so close to the release? Its a copy paste type game as are most sports games this year.
704 actually has some former Codemasters Devs I believe. I think they are all under the Motorsports Games umbrella, but you might have to fact check that
we have been saying this since nascar 09 came out
The only thing that I have a problem about NASCAR heat, Caution replays not being there... Where Are they???
I mean it would also be nice if we had a paint booth like either EAs in 09 or eutechnyx. Also how comes Nascar video games havemt had a good damage model since the PS2 era? Like at least it looked like NTG 11 started a good looking system until they rushed it out.
Yes i agree
To be honest I like NASCAR heat
Oh boy.... that is a big no no
ya i loved that from inside line
2:03
*Matt Larson has entered the chat*
Or Kyle Kenseth... 🤔
DNG *Myle Karson*
Got mad love for 704 and some of the Pro Leaguers. The attitudes from some players in it just turn me off unfortunately...
Facts.
Black Flags Matter same with gt sport fia championships
Sorry i dont speak wrong, the heat series is straight T R A S H
I wish there was a deal where you can kick dirty players during races
liar
Codemasters F1 2020: We added My Team Career, Full Career F2 seasons, Splitscreen, Season Lengths, Schumacher Edition with 4 new classic cars, reworked damage and handling, drivers retiring in career and others coming up from F2, and a Podium Pass
704 Nascar Heat 5: We added DNF's and Test Mode and "reworked" the paint scheme editor
You forgot to add “new Physics”
EA buying Codemasters: hahaha microtransactions go brrrrrrr
Ok podium pass isnt an improvement over nh5
@@wolfgamingnetwork3542 lol k
Jaret said hold my beer I’m going in LMAO
😂
Idk Player lolololololololollol
Lmao facts
Waiting for a good NASCAR Heat game is like being a Detroit Lions fan. You always think it might be the year, having relatively decent expectations, but it always comes out to be a disappointment
Waiting for a good NH game is like waiting for Timmy Hill to win something other than an iRace
A Formula 1 analogy: Waiting for a good NASCAR Heat game is like waiting for it to actually be Ferraris year
@@dngnascar hes probably won a race on this game but then again haven't we all
That is true. Except when we spend money on the Detroit Lions, we are called die hard fans lol
Waiting for a good NASCAR Heat game is like being a DCEU fan
The “Pro League” is a joke. It amazes me how NASCAR can take something like that more seriously than the Coca-Cola iRacing Series, because that is 100 times better and realistic than the “Pro” shit-show.
I think that even shows how much NASCAR as an organization views these games.
Barrett Polhemus it’s like they r trying to copy the fia nations and manufacturers cup from GT Sport but fail miserably
I agree, but I think it has to do with the higher amount of people with Heat. iRacing costs a good bit of money, and is a bit secular due to its realism which makes it more of a niche, but a ton more people have a regular game console and can go pick up Heat.
Totally agree. The game IS not and HAS not been ready for an esports league. It’s an embarrassment and the “drivers” are nothing more than a bunch of grown men living in their parents’ basement who should be embarrassed to be part of the league and ashamed of the way they represent not just the game, but nascar as a brand. If 704Games and Nascar truly wanted to produce content for an esports league that would SELL, they’d choose drivers with talent and the social awareness to be in front of a camera and know how to speak eloquently. Sorry to say representing a brand is all about image. And these guys, give off the most asinine image conceivable.
@@Kingsammich2 I’ve watched I racing the drivers are waaaaay more chill
I was this close to getting heat 5, but at the last second, I decided to get F1 2020. It’s just a better game with more improvements.
F1 2020 is one of my favorite racing games of all time at the moment and I have gotten every NASCAR game since Inside Line and I think that stops at Heat 4 because I'm not getting Heat 5 most likely
@@ethanf1 Yeah I am hoping they discontinue it so we have no nascar game to play anymore. Stupid inbreds
Wish Codemasters would grab the NASCAR license
@@MoNeenja same they would make a good NASCAR game
I’m just getting both
You can’t have a good video game when you leave out the 1990 Daytona 500 champ. I should be in the game as a legend.
Brennan Poole you are correct. You’ll get one next year sir.
I'm pretty sure it's the same kid running all these fake Driver accounts. You do you kid, had me going for a second. Keep up the good work.
Salty Jedi I am Derrike Cope.
@@derrikecope137 you might be.
@Brennan Poole that's cool someone has a fake allgaier fake chris Fontaine fake kyle Larson. All with about 7 subs
3:51 "A really major de-evolution"
I see what you did there.
As much as I'm having fun with NASCAR Heat 5
Even I know it's NASCAR Heat 4 upgraded
And it would be a lot worse for NASCAR Gaming if EA Sports was still their developer
Considering how terrible Electronic Arts is today
These are my problems:
- I don’t like how cars can’t retire from A race after a big wreck. If you wreck and cars get damage, those go to the garage. It seems really dumb for 40 or 39 cars to finish a race at Talladega.
Speaking of crashes. Why can’t you ever create a “big one”? At talladega or Daytona I only see like 3-4 cars going sideways, the cars should be able to create like a 8-9 wreck.
I want an option to retire from a race If im having a bad race and im Tired, pls give me the option to end.
During green flag pit stops, PLS FOR FUCKS SAKE make the cars give us a warning when they pit so we know to get out of the way,
Wrecks should happen from any car and not just me
I don’t the already custom paint schemes, let us design it different shapes and effects, not pre made
Weather should be added, rain, should be added to make it more intense, the yellow can come out for maybe 1-2 min then go green or under yellow, the checkered flag waves and its over.
Lastly, it’s ridiculous, but I would like to have an option to create your own customized schedule.
in championship mode in heat 5 u can create your own schedule, lol u got ur wish
j p So I can replay the spring vegas race with Sonoma? And replace Nh with Gateway
@@nicksheeder1757 yes u can move sonoma up to there, only bad thing is u cant add non cup tracks to the cup series, but u can make whatever kind of schedule u want besides that. if u want 36 daytona 500s u can do that, also u dont have to do all 36 races either, and u dont have to have the playoffs as well.
And a career mode with the option to have several sponsors than just one. They can be fictional too
You know it's bad when you tell someone to play the Eutechnyx games.
Inside Line was okay
They need to fix the cars when braking. The braking issue makes road course impossible to race competitively.
There are a lot of things wrong with this series, graphics, playability, network, and lack of customization. We shouldn't have to deal with this year after year, especially in this era. The PS4/Xbox One gen has been a huge disappointment. It's such a bad look when games 2 generations older are more enjoyable than this.
I agree, I feel like 704 is just like EA and is missing so many cool features that were in older games
As much as I adore 704Games, yeah I can see the criticism.
Where’s the caution replay? Why do we have strict or relaxed cautions? Whatever happened to cautions on and off options? Why the HELL do we have eSports for Heat Pro League? It’s stupid and we didn’t even ask for that! Maybe if they were not focusing on eSports, maybe the Heat Games would be a bit better (no offense to Heat Pro League racers)
As much as they improve each year, there are some stuff we STILL NEED and ask and we are still waiting :/
At least they are not EA Sports.
The only thing that I have against 704Games is Caution Replays. Like why aren't they in the games???
Cito Browne I miss caution replays
IanPerez48 FUCK 704
SammyInABox 1 it’s sad that we still play nr2003 instead of any other games. It’s the best NASCAR game created, and it shouldn’t be
SammyInABox 1 NR2003 isn’t a console game. That’s completely different from the NASCAR Heat games or other NASCAR console games
Finally someone calls out 704 on there bull! I'm so tired of them as a company. They've wasted over 200,000 dollars on the "pro" league which is just a bunch of egos with a few actual good people. We need a new company to come in and save Nascar video games, and it doesn't help Nascar heat is trying to scan 50-70 bucks on a roster update with test sessions
Preach
If you keep buying crappy games they will keep making crappy games
Pro league sucks. Stupid they tried something like that from a video game. Same bs with MUT on Madden. The game was still ok til that ruined it
Personally, I love these games (besides heat evolution) and think they are fun. None of these bugs and glitches happen to me and are not a problem. I enjoy playing the games in this series and like to play them a lot!
I gotta disagree about the plate racing, unless you use a custom setup, the high line doesn't work
I have found the high line a little prevailing by not have the pedal to the metal all the time and letting off a little bit
Ya it’s pretty ass idk why people like it so much
For some reason if your in a online lobby people go to the high line and it works. Maybe it’s because there are so many crashes and small packs are around and people make more moves.
They always just assume everyone runs customs. I never liked them much really
Eutechnyx had way better plate racing.
My thoughts: Thank you Iceberg for saving my money!
I always assumed the Heat Pro League was a joke. It's nice to get confirmation
How do u not have caution replays in 5 games I mean they have have a replay mode after the race ffs
Had that in Dirt to Daytona why not now
Thank you for this video Jaret! Constructive criticism is needed to improve the series.
More than that honestly. 704 games needs to stop catering to the Pro Leaguers so fucking much and work on the game that WE as the consumers are getting.
say that to madden
“People have been playing the worst NASCAR game ever. They would’ve had a drop around 500 bucks on the series”
That’s me!
Finally someone speaks up from the community about 704 games. Btw Good video Iceberg
Speaking of Heat Pro League eSports, I thought NASCAR wasn’t interested in the Heat Pro League and Landon Cassill hated the series
"You Want A Cookie?' lol
Don't think I've heard The Iceberg this angry...
Cross out 4, etch in 5. Hopes everyone has dementia in 2020
I was playing heat 4 career with STRICT YELLOWS, and I spun out on the middle of the track, and my car was doing burnouts for no reason and I was hitting stuff because of it, and there was NO yellow
NASCAR Heat didn't see this Iceberg coming!
I see what you did there
Lol 😂😂
The next game wont be on the unity engine so thats already a huge plus
You were right. This video is a controversial NASCAR gaming video.
As someone who loves 704 because they listen unlike eutechnix and EA, it upsets me that the bar was set so low because they made heat evolution. They need to get thier shit together for heat 6 or they'll lose the fan's intrest. But just remember, Codemasters never got it right the first time either.
Heat=Trash
Eutechnyx=trash
It’s hard to believe that games 15-20 years old are better. Doesn’t make sense.
Heat is trash, yes.
But Eutechnyx did have some things going for them, like the paint booth and the handling and damage models. The main problems with Eutechnyx were the AI, and thats about it.
Having bought and played Heat 4 for 6 seasons in career mode now, i get so bored that i dont do Cup races becuase the handling sucks and my car looks awful from a livery standpoint.
eutechnyx was actually a good game, the accidents just weren’t that great as well as the ai
I’ve had more fun on the worst Eutechnyx games than I have on any Heat game, personal preference but I think that speaks volumes.
Ea's last two games = 🗑 🚮
Newmanfan4ever39 you mean 09 and 08?
Titles video "Low Expectations," goes on to say why he has high expectations.
I know. It's like he's forcing others to only like the older games. Not everyone is going to like the older games, and it's not like the world's going to end if a few bad games come out.
Idk player is annoying and he cheats in the races
It took me until 9 mins in to realize you were playing Rancid in the background. Hell yea dude. And well said.
A couple of things:
The NASCAR Heat Games were built using the Unity Engine. That engine is so cheap, you only have so much to go with it. NASCAR Heat 4/5 is basically the limit where Unity could have gone. The next installment on the PS5/XSX is allegedly going to be built on a brand new game engine made by Motorsport Games.
With that in mind, NASCAR Heat is usually released in September, Heat 5 came out now so that the developer can have more time with the new engine and make something that's not Heat Evolution.
I get it. You're upset, and your patience is running thin. But, I think time is our greatest ally in perfecting.
Keep in mind they’ve made 5 entries, and they still aren’t getting it. But yeah, you’re right about how they’re using a Unity engine and I hope Heat 6 makes tons of improvement and listen to fans. If not, so be it
Holy fucking underrated comment
I couldn't have said it better myself buddy. All we can do is try to support them, and come together for our love of racing. As long as they keep most of the improvements that they've made up to this point, and keep getting better I think things will be looking up. I got Heat 5, and I know I'm still going to enjoy it anyways. It may not be perfect, but I don't mind waiting a little longer if it means we get a great game.
I also couldn't have said it better myself
Man I've heard that excuse so many times from video game apologists. If you as a company know a game is not going to be up to standards due to the game engine, then don't make a game anyway to scam your consumers for a quick money grab.
Thank you so much for finally making this video.
That Jameis Winston Tom Brady comment got me laughing 😂😂😂
NASCAR 2015 was my favorite because any lane works. You can run outside inside it just depends on if you can run that lane. The game was more realistic when hitting cars.
When the biggest bragging point of the new game was having testing knew it was screwed
Jaret has become full gamer mode... three video game vids three days in a row lol
he hasn't done any actual gaming tho
What In Carnation? Oh... well then
They need to bring back some old stuff like showing us what happens on a caution and we pick what lane we drive in if we were in 1st on a restart
They gotta fix the bugs before they put out a new game. I'd rather have them release a finished game in November than release the same game from last year in July. Kind of like NTG:Inside Line, how that was released in November 2012, but had a 2013 season update in the spring.
Loved the Fall Back Down Instrumental in the back.
I would give it a break, the game just came out, and I can reason a lot with this video, like caution replays, settings, and the graphics. But, I’ve been with it ever since the WORST NASCAR game. And yes, it does improve every time, and 704 does have nice people, but they do need to step it up NH6.
NASCAR heat 4 was about the physics not just the track map! Lol
Me over here playing Nascar '08 on my PS2 barreling down the straight at Watkins Glen not being able to see where the turn is because the graphics are 360p.
Low expectations and even lower results. FTFY
A big complain I have with the Heat games are: The spotter does not work, I liked using the cockpit cam but since the spotter doesn't help any bit, neither there is that old nascar game feature where in the hud that showed the cars that were around you, I had to change my cam, thank you 704.
Can't wait for heat 6 with a new engine
What’s funny is the sheer amount of laziness that went into the copy and paste.. they couldn’t even be bothered to update victory lane trophies that say 2019, the heat 4 logos to heat 5, or the monster energy logo to the new cup series logo 😂
2:01 *SOFTDRINKTV has entered the chat*
It seems we will have to play thunder 2004 or inside line for the rest of our lives.
Honestly Nascar should re think their whole approach when it comes to marketing through games.
1. Pull the plug on the Heat series and start fresh with an established racing developer.
2. Give another licence to a developer to make a game targeted towards the sim racing market - NR2003 is still being played and supported by modders to this day so the demand is there.
3. Licence the cars out to the Gran Turismo and Forza series. They very popular cars in GT5/6 (especially online) and the exposure would be greater than what any Nascar game could achieve on its own.
I don’t think Heat 5 is that bad. Maybe its just cause I am used to buying Madden every year...
At least I’m in the game again!!!
NASCAR told them to make game bad to hide over driving the car secret.
Thumbs up if you think that everyone should team together to make a racing game
You touched on everything wrong with the game in 10 minutes and everything right about the game in 1 minute... you spoke the truth
I can say right around when heat 2 came out I was one of the 704 defenders, once the 4th game was released my patience had ran out
I only played 4 for online since I had made so many friends racing in online lobbies and that’s pretty much it. Im sorry but if it takes them 4 games to add simple feature like a damn track map, and 5 games to add private test sessions, then it would probably take them til the end of their contract to make a game that would be considered ‘kinda good’ if they follow the trend (I have my doubts)
Heat Evolution, 2, and 3 made all of the Eutechnyx games look like game of the year contenders and that’s saying something.
You're completely right, and didn't even get into the whole not having a paint booth thing.
I remember playing heat 5 a while ago and qualifying pole. I slowed down a bit and spun out the guy in second sending the whole field into chaos. Well, I would have if the crashes worked in the game. I don’t get how you can send a car spinning into the main pack and have smoke and spinning cars everywhere but in the end only about 7 cars are involved, if that. On top of that, only the one I hit went to the pits for damage and the other cars just continued the whole race with smashed in bumpers. I hope ignition is good…
NASCAR Heat 6 will be like NASCAR Heat 5 but with a graphics upgrade.
woooo
Their changing the engine. So most likely not. Unless that engine some how is just a copy of unity
Nascar heat 5.5
NASCAR Heat is becoming Madden
Damn bro you went in on those pro leaguers
I don’t see how someone can get mad about a pass under the yellow lines in an arcade game. If they’re so picky about shit like that, they should go play iRacing.
The issue, is that they're likely not good at iracing and claim it's too serious... jokes
Killertoad people take everything too seriously lmao😂 but I get what you mean, I don’t play it but I heard the membership is a little bit high
@@chineselemonkitty717 eh, it keeps off the forza type players. It's a great place to race and can trust the other drivers, while being able to avoid driving out of your mirror lol
Even iRacing doesn't technically have a rule against it.
This is absolute gold... thank you
If they could take iracing physics and heat racing graphics (minus motion blur) and mesh them together we would have an almost perfect game.
I feel like Steve O'Donnell needs to take a long hard look at 704's Contract. I would say Posthaste, Iceberg that I would want to see a Full NASCAR Simulator like I want to see IRP and the Springfield and DuQuion Miles, and the abilities to develop and I would feel like it is inconsistent to analog NASCAR and I would shriek at Henderson being a field filler and to say it is not Drew Carey Quality is an understatement and that at least had April Fool's or Webcam Episodes.
iRacing exists
O'Donnell does not handle that side of things.
@@DerrickRG dude is so out of touch
Mad respect for posting this ✊🏻
Heat 4 was definitely the best game in this series. At least the devs was honest about it being a copy tho
In my opinion the problem with the heat series is that there to many glitch in the frist day. They also put drivers in cup series that aren't driving in cup now .But the thing that take cake paint booth.I don't even have to explain how it is to others games. That is all
I was really impressed and happy with the handling in Heat 4. I won’t be buying the new one until it’s $30 or less ($30 may be a stretch) because that’s the amount of effort that went into it. I warned people it was a rush to make a new one and I was laughed at on SM. Hope you enjoy your half ass game guys
I will get the games only to race new paint schemes and make my own schedule. I don't care what anyone else says chase's paint schemes this year are fire
Yeah I think his cars are cool too.
I’ve switched over to PC to play Iracing and I have no plans going back to NASCAR heat. If code masters does pick up the nascar title I would go back to play again.
He basically just said what we all thought
Simple, no market competition. It was the same problem EA had when it became exclusive. No benchmark to beat except the last trash game. That’s why they say “we polished the turd”. The game needs competing developers but sadly it’s not popular enough to support that.
I don’t think anyone accounts the unity engine which he also fails to discuss. Which will be changed for heat 6 into a new engine they are using, along with a partnership with a large motorsports company. Heat 6 will be great, but I believe you should still support these developers.
Sonic team work on a new engine for sonic forces and it wasn’t great. So don’t take that for a good sign
This feels very much directed at RealRadman’s video
Remember when nascar thunder 2004 had pre-race intros and would tell you the story of the season and if a certain driver was struggling or performing well?
Remember how 2006/2007 introduced teammates that would work with other teammates rather then random drivers if given the chance?
Remember how 2005 had fun fantasy tracks like old spice raceway?
remember when you could re-live major moments from nascar in thunder challenges and earn rewards such as custom paintschemes and thunder points to unlock more special features?
Remember how nascar thunder games had multiple paintscheme options for many cars? Including some from previous years like the option to race harvicks rookie scheme?
Remember Ace moneymaker?
I wish they would make it where you could choose your own sponsers drivers retire you can see other teams pit crews on pitroad
I bought Heat 3 and 4 on deep discount as part of Humble Bundles and played both. I still do not feel a need to pay full retail for Heat 5.
What I hate about cautions is that if a car wrecks it will stay in it’s position when the caution comes out instead of going to the rear
NASCAR heat 5 is a super fun game and I have barely anything against it besides the driver ratings are messed up
They did kinda handicap themselves when they chose to use the Unity engine.
Joe B this needs to be known to EVERYBODY
Joe B there not using it for heat 6
They said the unity engine improved I doubt it🤣
F1 2020 and it was a no brainer which game I wanted. Not both at this rate since it feels like the same as 4.
yes the games aren’t the best, there’s no doubt about it especially when you compare them to the early nascar games by EA. I’m not defending them but to be honest this is like pretty much every annual game that comes out: sucks, buggy and basically a copy and paste from last years. It’s basically become the norm for games now and it’s atrocious. At least 704 seems like they’re trying and seems like there might be some upgrades in the future, while ea and 2k basically ignore their communities and do just as much changes to their games as tiny 704 does. video games as a whole honestly have these issues and need to change
Codemasters does quite well with the F1 series. Improving the physics and adding new features every time without a lot of bugs. I’d love to see them tackle a NASCAR game.
"I'm gonna wait a year until it's half priced."
Hello from 2023, I wish that had been the case 😅
I've never played a NASCAR Heat game ever
Other than Heat Mobile
Heat mobile still sucks
Same
It does, but at least it was free. But yeah it was a humongous peace of shit, even NASCAR manager is better (and it’s not that great)
You've seen it all lol
Who?
It just blows my mind that a caution almost never comes out when I spin out. But the caution always comes out when I'm leading laps trying to win a race, or when a competitor gets a little loose
What blows mine is the damage. Compare ea's tire marks and the scratches from the walls on the card's sides to 704's. The 704 ones don't look as good, and no marks whatsoever. Irritates the living daylights outta me. Does this affect you too?
The game isn't crappy, it is definitely an improvement from heat evolution, their first game. Sure it has problems and issues, but its not a simulation like iracing, so I don't think it deserves all the hate gets. If you don't like the game, don't buy it. If your gonna complain, put it in a constructive form instead of a complain about everything form. You can't except a company to make a perfect game, no game is perfect.
8:20 was the realest thing in the entire video
It’s funny because gran turismo, project cars, and forza have ovals that are fine and godly graphics 😂😂😂