What The Hell Is A Venturi Atlantique 300?
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2019
- I'm back at John Ashley Cars in Rotherham and today I am filming something incredibly special - the hyper rare Venturi Atlantique 300. One of only a handful ever officially imported into the UK, how does this mythical beast drive?
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It looks like a MK3 Supra and a 90's Ferrari had a sexy time and produced something truly beautiful 👍
I was thinking the same thing. Mk3 Supra and F355 hybrid.
@@itzajdmting yeah that side profile is definite 355 good shout
Agree. Front end reminded me of my old supra, side profile Ferrari 👌
I got the Supra vibe from the front end too!
Ferrari 550 from the front
Sparks can be changed easily via the access panel behind the seats. The side scoops feed the intercooler! It's also where Alpine put theirs. The rear lights are definitely Sierra and always were on the 300. This car has been resprayed and isn't wearing its original colour. Mine was its twin and now lives in France.
Wow.... very fortunate to own such a beautiful motor vehicle 👍
Feu arrière Ford sierra et rétroviseurs Citroën cx
I bet even Doug Demuro hasn't even seen let alone driven one of these!
Doug wouldn't even know it exist's I can't stand his reviews...
Alan Hunt Uhm he would know. Because you don’t like his reviews doesn’t mean that his knowledge of cars is lacking.
@@Gnomosfortheoffice I find his reviews incredibly dull mostly because of weak content. Not that he says anything wrong.. he just doesn't add any value to the topic of cars... This is why x is worth,,, how many times do we need to listen to that. I want him to tell me something significant about the engineers or designer who created it. I doubt he knows much outside american car culture.
Haven’t watched his videos in a while... don’t know why i dunno 🤷🏽♂️
''Here Is Why A Venturi Atlantique 300 is the rarest car in the world''
One of the best luxury race car ever made in France. It's a shame they lost the company because of their formula 1 financial engagment. It costs them too much money.
Thank you for this review!
The manufacture of Venturi was 40km away from my home, there is 2 or 3 in my local car scenes ! Awesome cars ! The 400 GT is called the french F40 (very close perfs)
I grew up in Angers, I used to go as a kid to the MVS manufacture near Cholet. The place was bright, quiet and clean as a hospital. The mechanics were building 4 or 5 chassis simultaneously.
There is a night blue 400 GT in Nantes.
Doesn't look much worse either. And I'm not even French :P Great looking cars
5:29 😮😍 That 400 Trophy GT is a looker!
You should have seen the GT version race in the BPR Series. Slow (always private cars) but sounded awesome and looked mean!! The 'R' in BPR is Stephane Ratel, who raced and owned (owns..) several Venturis; co-founder of the series; which eventually became the FIA GT championship, then Blancpain GT Series.
I like in the USA and am the proud owner of a 2000 Venturi Atlantique Twin-Turbo. In reference to the in vehicle engine noise - it is so incredibly loud that the stereo system isn’t audible at any high speed on the motorway. Also another poor design element is the lack of heat distribution for engine oil cooling. If you get stuck in stop and go traffic on a hot day, in this vehicle, you are in serious trouble. The problem lies with the placement of the inter cooler being in the back getting NO airflow AND getting blasted with engine bay heat from the boot then the vehicle begins to “beep beep beep beep” when the temperature soars past 220 Fahrenheit & if one isn’t careful you could crack a head in the blink of an eye. But, after all it is French and still is a phenomenal car to drive. Ours has a mere 21k original miles. It’s impeccable to look at and drive!!
You should definitely be running Evans Waterless Coolant, & then you can run a 0 psi rad.-cap. Also look into running a Davis Craig electric waterpump. You remove the impeller off the stock pump, bypass the pulley with a different belt , (but not necessary), then remove the thermostat.
My theory with the old PRV's cooling system was deficient the pump cavitates on the rear mounted engines vs. front mounted engines with the radiator closer to the pump, & less pumping volume distance.
I can only wonder the true coolant temps are around the cylinder liners, & cavitation there also.
Evans coolant will take care of it that's why its also NHRA/NASCAR approved for track use, but also because how efficient propylene glycol is, & doesn't boil.
You may need a good oil cooler, & you should also be using a boutique high performance blended oil like High Performance Lubricants with 860ppm of MoDTC (Moly), or Joe Gibbs Driven oil, Schaffers Oil, Miller's Oil. RedLine & Amsoil is at the lower end of the boutique oils.
Let me know if you have any other questions, you lucky guy!
James I live the way you talk about the review cars like a real enthusiast rather than a journalist. The level of you research is unmatched.
You live it?
These French cars are underrated. I love them!
@HELMUT ALTO Wanker
A lot of French cars have questionable build quality and rightfully so.
This has degraded their whole car sector which is held. In other words a bad reputation.
but their Renault are Terrible
@@movingtarget2977 the Clio/megane rs are incredible tho
@@movingtarget2977 Peugeot & Citroen are worse than Renault
Always liked the elegant look of these back in the day. They seemed like the gentlemans choice of supercar and they have matured very nicely.
True, although you'd have to have been stark staring mental to choose this over a Ferrari 355 (although I don't know how closely priced they were).
@@julianevans9548 Ferrari was a lot more pricey, had less torque and a much less luxurious interior, and didn't ride anywhere near as comfortably.
I spotted a lotus Carlton, one of my dream cars
Also reviewed by me a couple of weeks ago
Theres always a couple of lotus cartons down at John Ashley
It’s cool but too normal at the same time
I love your work. Keep it up!!!
The A610 and GTA's intercooler is also at the back. Vents and grills in the integrated spoiler force air down, through channels and then rammed through the intercooler. Works surprisingly well. (GTA V6 Turbo owner here....)
Ah you have an Alpine ? You are a lucky owner. 😉
Cheers from France.
The real OG GT2 players would remember this!
400 GT my Favorite 😍😍
with 'Racing Modification' of course
When i was 20 my dreamcar was the Venturi.. I'am 50 now. This episode will be perfection👌🏻👌🏻
I disagree on the looks, i've always found the Venturi a very pretty car. I live in the Northwest of England & i've totally heard of a Venturi Atlantique 300.
Me too, and me too. Lovely proportions and finish from such a small volume manufacturer.
When I bought my Delorean, the chap I bought it from had a Venturi 400, several DMCs and a Alpine Le Mans edition. We went out for a ride in the Venturi and he scared the shit out of me in it around the corners. Handles very well but the glove box popped open mid corner. The car was the same color both inside and outside as that one. This was back in 2007.
My 300 was this car's 'twin' and the same colour, although I had real carbon and 'mushroom' leather interior. This one has wrapped veneer.
That Video gave me some Gran Turismo 2 memories, pretty underrated car back in the day ;)
I've had the luck of driving one of these (biturbo version) at Francorchamps. In a sense it does feel a lot like a mixture between the Lotus Esprit and the Renault Alpine A610 turbo of the late eighties early nineties. It is less nimble than the former and for some reason (despite the much higher torque and power figures) it feels less pushy, less grunty than the alpine, but makes it up with a well planted feeling. Nice to see it on this channel, hope to see more interesting stuff again
Thanks for sharing your impression!
Nice looking car with a great retro look to it. Best bits are the ford Sierra tail lights 😄.
Pre facelift model had BMW e21 ones
those sierra tail lights suit really well for this sports car.
That explanation of supercars in the last 5 minutes was really appreciated. No superlatives, no bs, just a guy baring his emotional connection with cars to the world.
Glad you liked it
The front looks very reminiscent of the pre-facelift MK3 Supra, perhaps with a bit of Mitsubishi Starion/Chrysler Conquest/etc mixed in...
Always Loved the Atlantique, I saw it in some old magazines and always loved the look of it.
Just subscribed, Great video, excited to see the TVR review after this.
This is quickly becoming my favorite automotive CZcams channel. Fantastic review - and I love that you have access to and spend time with cars I’ve never even heard of!!
You are the most enjoyable, relatable car youtuber out there. Thanks so much for all the time and effort you put into making these awesome videos🙌
Love that review. A proper blast from the past as I loved these in car magazines from back in the day.... and I’m from the North West
To my eye, one of the most beautiful cars ever.
@ALAIN TERRIEUR thanks for the great recommendations, for a minute I thought it was spam. Amazing.
I used to own 'the green one' as it is known and as used on Top Gear .Reg Mk A300 VEN - then changed to R3 PPB - it came back broken - I fixed it at my cost - then I crashed in the front spoiler - then I got it back and did exactly the same thing again on the same day!! I worked out that it did more miles on my car trailer toing and froing from Cheltenham to Oselli in Whitney Oxfordshire than it did whilst under its power in my care. I loved it - I have had Ferrari's; Lotus, TVR and yet this is the car I enjoyed the most. Simply put it was drama free - just expensive to put right - it was better when I had the power steering turned off - the pop up headlights would work independently of each other and it overheated constantly so I had a switch put in under the steering wheel to turn the fan on. Two months ago it was up for sale for 50K - have not checked it recently 50k is 5X what I sold it for!!!!!! If you look carefully you can see the little orange switch!!
Ah the one at horsepower hangar? The pricing is a touch optimistic I think
@@JayEmmOnCars Indeed it is - very optimistic - super nostalgia video btw - many will love this as they love all your 'just slightly left of centre-but completely relevant videos' have a super evening Simon
Nelson Club
Its not too late to buy another Venturi
Good to hear about the history of the green one
I would but for one small thing - parts would by my fear - those darn lights were comedy - dare you 'flash someone as one would pop up and as it went down the other would come up and then stay there!!! Despite spending a fortune getting them right they still never worked properly - however with all the quirks - the handling was incredible - the whistle from the turbo insane and the sudden power available sublime yet almost zero engine noise. I once went to Prestbury Hill Climb in Cheltenham and there was an impromptu Venturi/Renault A600 meet - I made my way over and said "I've got one of these" The French guy who was organising it said "is it a green one?" When I said "yes" he said "We have been looking fo it, is there any chance you can bring it" - I went home and got it - and it overheated on the way back!!!! To fix it meant taking the body off - again!!!!
Nelson Club
Unlucky car maybe, ours came with a few faults but only due to being stood for about 15 years, it’s just done a track day with no issues at all.
We have a blue biturbo in for a few little issues, should be fixed soon and up for sale
Thanks a lot for that review - a jewel!
One of your absolute best videos. Love your enthousiasm and real car nutter/lover approach. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jules!
Great opening to your video, great to see a review of something a little bit obscure and very interesting.
It was fantastic to see a detailed review of this car- it's one of my dream cars, and James explains very well as to why it is
I always liked the UN1 gearbox. First came out in the Renault 30 TS & TX in 1977. Alpine also used it in the GTA and A610 up to 1992.
Very cool video! This is one I had never heard of! Great review of the experience thanks for sharing with us.
I remember these well saw at the Earl’s Court motor show along with things like the lister storm cars of their time but brilliant back in the day
This Venturi and its predecessor were among the most beautiful and well built cars of all times.
The 80s were Evergreen; they will never go out of style🌏🌎🌍🌐
It's not as spectacular as a TVR or Lamborghini in shape, but one of the most elegant cars ever built. I have seen only one in my life, 10 years ago on Essen motor show, but I loved it from that moment on.
Bring it on your super reviews!!! Very nice work really, reviewing forgotten cars is the sweet spot right now, sly old fox
Love the straight lines in the rear. Timeless.
Good review, fella. I haven’t seen any of your uploads prior to this. It was concise, informative, and completely void of the annoying analogies that are almost a default setting amongst most online reviewers, so thanks for explaining the cars pros n cons without resorting to the aforementioned.
Well done, sir. You have a new and happy subscriber.
Welcome on board!
Saw this in a magazine about 15-20 years ago and loved the design on it. Forget about years ago until now
I had a couple of supercar books when I was a young lad. The Venturi featured in both. Always liked the look of them.
What a good looking car. Always liked these, enjoyed this video 👌
Thank you for this video, the Venturi has been a favourite of mine for decades. I thought about the Venturi while watching your Alpine GTA video (some more excellent content, by the way) and was delighted to find that you've done the Atlantique 300 as well. For the record, I want one of each....
Amazing video. Deserving more subscribers mate your content is top notch.
Thankyou
What a GEM of a channel~
Excellent review. Would love to own one of these one day. A boy can dream!
I really like your style of reporting - great form!
Awesome review. love the sound of the V6
I remember i had a book as a child in the 90s of supercars that had an orange mclafen F1 LM on the cover. This was one of my favourite cars in the book along with the lister storm
More videos this style please!!, I love seeing the outside of the car
This was a very interesting review of a car that, I admit, did not know of previously. Thanks. The beautiful northwest of England is a plus. Love the old estates along the road.
I first saw this car when a Mr Clarkson reviewed it along with a Renault A610 (yes, like the one in the photo behind you at the start)
Thank you so much for reviewing this.
yup... Gran Turismo... awesome game by the way... each one for its era of course...
cheers!
My thoughts exactly.
Was one of my favourite cars on the game. Awesome to see a review of one.
I have never watched a video on your channel before, however this is a great overview of such a unique and quirky car. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your content!
Thankyou, there is lots to go through!
@@JayEmmOnCars We live in west wales by the coast between Aberaeron and Aberystwyth. Some lovely driving roads with large car/bike communities around here if you'd ever like to come this way pop me a message I'd be happy to help!
thanks for this great video on this very rare car. Before this video, all i knew was a 2 second segment on topgear when they raced one against a bunch of european cars, perhaps it was the test of the original XJR. Always wanted more information!
That 300 is I believe formerly owned by Renault Alpine Owners Club and former A610 owner Pauly A610. He did do a lot of work to it to bring what was a scruffy car from storage to a very nice clean car, He has sold it on now and I don't know where it went.
Originally the earlier cars were made by MVS and were called Venturi as a model. These earlier cars used the very same engine and gearbox as Alpine did for their GTA turbo models delivering 200hp, hence now these earlier cars are referred to as the 200. The GTA version had its engine moved through 180 degrees making it a rear engine car with the gear box intruding into the rear just like a Porsche 911. The Venturi has had the engine and gear box placed into the rear of the car with the engine forward of the gear box meaning it is a mid-engine car.
Around 1992 MVS became Venturi and the model names became the 210, (an increased power version of the 200), and the 260, developing 260bhp by changing the crankshaft from a Renault to a Volvo to give 2900cc from the 2500cc, Venturi also had to have bespoke ECU’s made for the 260 variants as Renault did not have a 2900cc turbo engine.
The chassis on all road going Venturi/MVS,(200/210/260/300 Atlantique/400 GT), are not tubular but rather steel pressed and are so ridged they are capable of being driven without body work. The chassis for the 400 trophy was developed from the 260 but for the 400 Trophy single make race series they widened the track and lengthened the wheel base. When Venturi decided to replace the 260 with the 300 they used the new 400 Trophy chassis dimensions kept the same cock pit sizes, dashboard and centre tunnel to save on costs designing the new body work of the 300 to provide the width needed between the 260 and the 300.
The 260 is probably a little more hardcore than the 300 with the 300 being a little more “Grown up” and a tour-er compared to the 260. The naturally aspirated version of the Atlantique was indeed built and offered for sale though it was not at all popular, hardly surprising really as not only did it feature a non-turbo charged engine, Venturi for some bizarre reason chose to offer the car with an automatic gear box making the car painfully slow and barely any cheaper than the turbo version. The Turbo version of the car rejoiced in the full name of Atlantique 300 and the non turbo, Atlantique. Well it could not get anywhere near the 300 bhp of the turbo car, 285 bhp or there about and the Bi-turbo almost reaching the dizzy heights of 300 bhp with a very close 290’ plus bhp.
All Venturi cars were built with longitudinal engine and gearbox installations with the exception of the unloved naturally aspirated Atlantique.
If you have gotten this far, well done and I hope it helps supplement the above video.
Most interesting reading
Glad to hear you read it and thanks for making the video 👍
By the way I have the only RHD 260 in the country that is still road worthy. It was the media and demonstrator car for the importers Raptor. I assume they chose the name to compliment the bird of prey on the Venturi badge. It has appeared in a few magazines and top gear in 1992 I think it was
@HELMUT ALTO ---- Hi no club in the Great Britain though we did run a sort of Forum on Yahoo pages but that sort of faded away as people sold their cars on. The car's you have shown in the videos are genuine UK cars and not termed as an import, even though they were brought into the country from France. In the same way a Renault Clio that is RHD and sold from a Renault dealership is not viewed as an import. By the way the blue car in the 1st video is my car and was filmed at a Renault WSR weekend at Silverstone some years ago now. I am not the video maker or poster. All the best.
Grand Turismo is where I know them from. Once saw the F40 shaped 400 on the channel tunnel heading back to France about 4 years ago.
Ive heard of Venturi but never seen this car, thanks for the review!
Very informative review, I also have only ever seen these in Gran Turismo and wondered what the hell it was.
recent fan just now discovering you have hundreds of videos on amazing, rare, interesting cars. and you go over all the interesting details, esp all the strangeness with the engine.
Super awesome and rare car. Love it for that. A posh A610!
You are such a good and pleasant reviewer. You deserve 1M subscribers.
This video certainly is a treat.. thank you for a new review of a rather special old car.. and yes because Gran Turismo.. and I've also seen the young Hamster reviewing the car ages ago btw..
My pleasure, it is doing these kind of reviews I really love
I have never heard of these ,thanks jay for showing it
Here a video on a 2014 Venturi French club meeting for the 30th anniversary of the brand, with 90 cars present :
czcams.com/video/zcPPvWVeRDM/video.html
The Venturi lm400 was a long time favourite car for me .
my friends dad had one of these way back in the day!!, a lady pulled out on him and relieved him of it a few years back but i have very fond memories!. i cant say i liked the look of it at the time but love how it looks with older eyes....beautiful car!
That one lady destroyed 2% of all the Venturi Atlantiques ever made! 😮
@lebojay yeah, he was absolutely gutted!!, crazy to know they were that rare!!
Excellent episode
Great review of a sweet ride. Subbed.
I like the clean styling and simple, symmetrical interior.
Doug played gran Turismo, he knows about this car. And what a car, thanks. First review I've ever seen. Worlds first! Well done.
The car DeLorean wanted to build.
You've more than earned my subscription!
HOLY CRAP BRO!!! This is a unicorn amongst unicorns!!!
Looked great.
Reminds me of a model car I had as a kid.
Moterverdi hai.
Cool car.
Was always the hero in my play.
Luv and Peace.
Great review, very interesting car, thanks
Holy crap, I haven’t seen this car in YEARS! I used to have this Hot Wheels when I was a kid!
Third JayEmm video I've watched, third use of the word "bimbling", that's a thumbs up!
I do love a bimble
I love these cars, beautiful!!
Bloody good channel Dude
I've followed the MVS models - 210, 260 and TransCoupe, Atlantique & 400 GT - for some time, having seen them at various motor shows in the UK. The sole UK importer was Raptor (UK) of Norfolk.
I’d forgotten about these. Absolutely loved them back in the day. You say Ferrari 355, I’m saying 348 era! And don’t forget, I think the XJ220 also shared those same wing mirrors👍 yet again, loved the video😎
Never heard of it, but what a georgeous piece of engineering
Saw one of these at a roundabout outside Monmouth about four years ago. Never before or since.
I think this would be a solid reference for "how do I inspire the next generation of Petrol Heads?"
By appreciation of the brands who looked up to the Ferraris and the likes of the era.
You did solid on this one mate! I'll see ya on the next one.
I love this car. It's mind boggling that they achieved to make such a beautiful car with a windshield from the RENAULT Fuego, side mirrors from the Citroën CX and the rear lights of the FORD Sierra.
What a beautiful car. Just beautiful. Lovely.
One of your best vids, subject-wise. 2 thumbs up!! :)
Three thumbs up, just to be on the safe side :D
I had never seen, let alone heard of this car before! I think it's uniquely beautiful -- in a very understated way.
Interesting. Thanks!
Venturi awesome cars from the 90s remember the god old days of these in GT racing & LM 🍺
this guy really knows his facts. the knowledge and ease by which he talks on camera is very impressive. reminds me of clarkson; but even smarter.
Cheers
This was awesome. When I was a kid, I had a book about cars that had this car in it with a lot of details, as well as a side/top/front profile shot. Being in the USA, I knew I would never own one and especially considering how many were made in total, even being able to import some of them by now, would be cost prohibitive. My friends never even knew what this car was but I have always wanted one... beautiful cars. I'll settle for an Esprit though ;)
When I was a kid there was a racing green early MVS in my neighborhood. It was the business!
Tail lights are from a late Ford Sierra Sedan. Interior door handles & stalks from Peugeot 205, switches below AC from Citroen Xantia, AC controls Rover 45 I think. And I know the power window and mirror controls from the Xantia, too, I believe.
Love it.... so subtle, and now v rare
I remember these, funny enough I watched an old Top Gear episode a few months back where Vicky Butler-Henderson drives one.
That takes me back - Auto Express Magazine Supercars Edition :)
Nice one Jay, really like this car, for me it has always sat somewhere between the Renault Alpine and the Lotus Esprit..., probably supposed to be a french Aston..GT car.. it would be interesting to see the car up on a ramp, I wonder if it's getting its cool air into the engine from underneath.. I would give you 5 likes for quality rare content....:-)
Used to love the other variant of this on gran turismo 2 I think it was. Maybe the intercooler at the rear uses cooling by suction of warm air away instead of forcing cool air in. That is today perhaps it uses the venturi effect from the aerodynamics. A nod to their own name
I remember them from the BPR GT Sports car Endurance racing series which took over from Group C in the early 1990s when sports racers HAD to be based on production cars. They did quite well against F40s and Porkers but not Mclaren GTRs which were a class above. BPR was suceeded by the FIA GT series with Corvettes and Vipers and prototypes along with the Merc SLKs and Porker GT1s which were really prototypes and seriously fast. I think Venturi went bump at the turn of the century.