US Air Force Testing Brand New $4 Million Fully Electric Aircraft
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The Rolls-Royce electric plane is sensational. Looks amazing and so much fun!
Will KC-135s now have in-flight charging cables?
The refueling plane will drop a case of Harbor Freight AA batteries.........
KC-46 or The Sunshine Band will replace it.
lol
Yes, WiFi connetion.
No just a fucking long extension cable, plugged into the smoko room
An excellent compilation, thank you. 👍
This test is probably intended to produce a large weaponized drone from this.
Electric supports low noise, heat & maintenance. Add a little stealth & ground-based power (fabric solar panels + batteries?), and maybe you'd have a handy 'flying jeep' etc
The main thing is always - how long can we fly for with a battery. And how to totally avoid over-heating, electrical fire, running out of juice due to wrong data about the energy level, ending in tears etc.
- Energy density for batteries is improving every year and it won't be long until they provide viable output for long-duration flight
- Overheating is avoided with active cooling similar to what we see in battery packs for electric cars
- Electrical fire has the same or less chance of occurring as a traditional gas-powered vehicle with the added benefit of no requirement for handling fuel at all
- Running out of juice can happen in both electric and gas vehicles so not sure what the point is there
- Any aircraft failure will end in tears, electric or gas
Gas powered vehicles aren't going away for a long time, but electric powered vehicles are undeniably getting more effective every year. Both can be useful for different things and they should both be leveraged as such.
@@JordanCoopersNook It certainly will be good if they can have a fully electric plane - like an airbus A330 or A350 etc that is safe - as in no self-combusting surprises (and redundancy), and can fly many thousand km with adequate fuel to spare. And also - able to refuel real quick, at least as quick as conventional avgas aircraft.
This technology will change aviation positively. 🚁✈
It is very good. All my best wishes for you and USA
Thank you ❤
What's next? Electric tank? Missile? Aircraft carrier? Spaceship?
Yes.
Once upon a time ships used sails, then transitioned to steam. Ground forces used pointy sticks, and then found something better. The future belongs to those who are willing to adapt, not those who are stuck in the past.
@@hwrdgrn your review is correct, showing an development towards use of steadily increasing energy density. The future like in the past will be created by those who accept and use the laws of physics without being corrupted by ideology.
They are already there and testing other ideas.
@@hwrdgrnNo, electric vehicles aren't the future. Maybe do some research.
Only thing i dis agree with is electric comab vehicles at least until we get reliable and actually efficient way of charging them and were they can be better then gas@hwrdgrn
Locally here Harbour Air has been testing a retrofit electric on a float plane. The majority of their trips are short shuttle,30-50kish which is perfect for charging between trips. The weight of battery packs has to be considered. The pilot says the torque at takeoff is quite superior!
Another thought. Lithium Ion batteries are light and the most energy dense. However it is illegal to transport them by air on commercial airlines. How about all the fires we have seen caused by Lithium Ion batteries. Not a good feature when flying at thousands of feet.
1) Lithium batteries are carried on cargo only flights.
2)Know what else you can’t carry on commercial airlines? Missiles, grenades, bombs, etc. You see, the military can do lots of things civilians can’t.
Gasoline has 100X the energy density of a Li-Ion battery. In practical terms, that means a 737's range would be 31.6mi instead of 3160mi. That would be 90 stops for a flight from NYC to LAX.
So why can't I take a can of gasoline as my hand luggage in commercial flights then?
@@Hyposonic NOT USABLE Energy. Go do your homework....
@@darrellmcever340 As I am a designer of high-performance Li-Ion batteries, I'd love to hear your groundbreaking insights.
Super batteries are around the corner , then everything will change massively
Zero emissions? Really how did you generator produce the electricity.
Can use any means to generate the electricity. wind, solar, coal, nuclear, in the future it will be fusion.
Don't be silly. All they have to do is build a wall. There's automatically electricity in every wall. Just plug in.
aerial charging coming soon
Who sees a KC-135 dangling an extension cord out the rear to do a mid-air recharge? ;-)
The plane of the future, and always will be.
Dream on
would make a great air ambulance depending on price
The horse drawn carriage will never be replaced!
Yes! A flying horse could replaced airplanes. Scientist should find a way to bring back to life Pegasus and those prehistoric flying reptiles
Peguasus, and Santa's Reindeer could do much to relieve our fantasies in transpoeration. And it's amazing what Fairy Godmothers can do with pumpkins. 😀 @@ayamhitam9794
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At last a clear shot of a UFO! 😅
How is the battery made and where does the power come from?
You are thinking about it too hard it's ZERO EMISSIONS!
how is fuel made and where does the power come from to make it
@@fetB details, details.
Look not at the man behind the curtain.
It comes from the blood of children and is made by dark magic rituals lead by the Great Orange One.
@@fetB so you're admitting both require fossil fuels??? Nice self own. LOL Plus we have to deal with dirty batteries, lower speeds, much longer refuel times, more weight, all new infrastructure....
Few emissions where the craft is, but not at the power station!
Nevermind that!!!!😂
You are REALLY uninformed. the "power station" is more and more solar, wind and nuclear, if not hydro and geo thermal.
AS solid state batteries improve, storage of peak and over windy and sunny days, will even it out and we can ONCE again rely on the sun- directly
instead of waiting 60,000 millions of years for sun grown vegetation to turn into coal and oil.
Recently one MAJOR European country experienced enough solar and wind, it could power the entire country!
@@MachinecoMachineswell we have a lot to look forward to I suppose. Until then, this is just a massive waste of time and money 😂
@@scottleggejr Yeah the horse and buggy people said that about automobiles too.
@@flyer617 no they didn't. They were thankful that their "horses" didn't get sick and need food and water anymore. This is the dumbest argument when people talk about the merits of EV vs the established standards existing today.
Hmm. Interesting video. 😊😊😊❤❤❤
Never forget: A dream is a dream. The things take time, a lot of time
They are developing fast and will be the norm in 5 years
Yeah, it needs time. But people also trying reducing time.
Not on lithium.
@@lcfflc3887 why not? But they are developing new technologies all the time. NASA has a new battery that’s impressive.
But lithium puts out a lot of power fast, so it’s great for the use
thats one of the sexiest air planes i have ever seen
I recently saw a video on a plane going the complete opposite way. It had the stock Rolls rotary motor taken out and a super charged LS swapped in with a custom transmission gearing it so it could fly at 3,000 rpm and nit the usual 6 or 7000 rpm most plane motors spin at.
I love how they show stacks with steam coming out of them to make you think that it is all pollution and chemicals.
I am very much in favor of new technology and innovation. There is a place for any or all electric vehicles. However electric has a big short coming, energy density. Battery technology does not have an even close energy density to carbon based fuels. Energy density in batteries will continue to improve but in my view it will be many years before it approaches that of carbon based fuels. So for a very long time there will be a market need for both. Unless great detail to safety and backup systems are payed attention to a single fuse could down an aircraft. As a former military person and an Electronic Engineering Technician, in a combat situation a fast recharge will still need to be accomplished by carbon based fuel generators mitigating the zero emission aspect. I should suggest helical toroidal propellers which would increase efficiency by about twenty percent. Keep moving ahead this is impressive technology.
You need much less energy in an electric aircraft, even todays lithium ion batteries are able to provide around one hour of flight time for electric aircraft, there are already certified electric planes out there, and they have 10 year old battery technology. As right now energy density goes up by the month, in the very near future flight times around 2 hours will be possible, which is more than enough for many tasks (short range passenger flights, emergency services, package delivery...)
electric aircraft will have tremendously reduced costs per flighttime, as all the hot section engine problems go away, electric motors do not need regular maintenance, cost reduction will be HUGE !
@@hanswallner2188 Lift is determined by the shape and size of the wings. Pound for pound it takes the same amount of energy to get identical panes in the air regardless of whether it is fossil fuels or electric. "You need much less energy in an electric aircraft," is not true. Getting an aircraft in the air is not the issue maintaining flight is the issue. As you stated "lithium ion batteries are able to provide around one hour of flight time" fossil fuels have a much higher energy density, meaning they can stay in the air longer. Someday it may be a reality that we will have long range electric flight, it is not today.
You make complete sense. However, the video maker as well as a number of Pentagon brass have a hardon for this. But don't worry. Once a dozen lives are wasted in a serious situation, they will dial it all back.
I wonder if a TCAS like system will be incorporated into the Joby aircraft.
Extra mileage available with an extension cable.
Superb ! 🌟
This will be about as dependable as the horrible Osprey tilt rotor
Nice start to many dumb comments.looking forward to it's future
10:20 If that was a real thing, I’d sell a kidney tomorrow. 😂
It's great. I will own one, one day. 😊
Maybe nuclear fueled electric planes but not rechargeable.
How would you recharge hundreds at the same time and what do you do about the extended turn around times?
Yes, micro nuclear would be next level!!
So.. is there a tactical solar panel system that is laid out in a tactical, bomb-proof arrangement?
They will tactically push the airplane around on the ground in circles for two days to tactically recupe enough energy to then fly to the next tactical diesel generator with tactically hotwired charging plug.
The dream of flying cars always amuses me. While generation of lift is done with propellers of any shape or form, the noise will render the concept a non-starter. We've had 3 helicopters ferrying tourists to see a local volcano when it is active and they fly over the capital every 30 minutes or so. Just 3 of them are driving everyone nuts here. They are small 4-6 passenger light helicopters. Also consider the limits set on drone flights because the sound they make bothers people at tourist attractions (not to mention hazard of falling onto someone). All videos trying to present flying "cars" as a good idea always cut out the sound and play some gentle music instead. These things would be crazy loud if you consider they are just really big drones.
How does the graph go? A line for every year and a parallel line nine years to the right labeled "flying car"?
what charges the batteries?
(a diesel generator behind the building)
Solar, wind, clean energy. Don’t be stupid.
@@soaringeagle Yeah smart, because today's Armed Forces only want to operate when the sun is shining!
Great video flupdup
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When they can fly from CA to the Philippines let me know.
Electric motors may have start up advantages. Where in application like elevator they do well. In a plane or drone how well does power transmission to individual user get done?
You never drove an ev? They are vastly superior.
How long is extension cord???
Will an e-drone have any advantage(s) over an e-helicopter-?
O custo por hora de vôo 👍
Can it win a war?
It’s a start
It helps if a plane can glide to the ground.
thank you for the post
Mid air recharging?
Drones are cumbersome with their sprouting support arms for propellers. Kinda like antlers on a deer.
In comparison, helicopters are compact.
They aren't drones.
wow electric planes
This is cool. But I think for now hybrid aircraft will be the best immediate answer, especially when solar power becomes more reliable.
On that white military craft i saw only one big prop on the back. Were there two on those round wing pillars up front??
It should have 4 lift props, I think that was old footage where they were just flying the plane conventionally using just the pusher at the back, as can be seen it can be flown conventionally from an airstrip and will have VTOL capability as well.
MADE IN USA ALWAYS POWERFUL N BEAUTIFUL
4:54 This has to be the future of commercial helicopters.
Будьте осторожней, скачки температуры на высоте, могут сыграть плохую шутку с электричеством и батареей. Проверил на тесле-тележке, ездит нормально, но на температурный режим тележка никуда не годиться.
Obrigado pela informação 🙂
I envision an aircraft propulsion system utilizing plasma jets for faster speed than propeller air propulsion. But as to whether the Air Force and the Space Force has any plans for such a situation for future air and space dominance largely depends on the kind of energy plant research for aircraft and spacecraft that is feasible.
One of the biggest reasons theyre investing in this is because of the lower weight of putting a bunch of these in that C-130 transport plane or within carriers. .Weight = fuel = money.
You really think they are lighter with all the batteries they require. EV cars are not lighter than gas fueled cars.
So, a petrol powered airplane with drained tanks weighs so very much more than a plane with batteries? What about the diesel generator that will produce the electricity for the fantastic batteries? I know, it's a rub between diesel and aviation fuel weight.
And since when does the Pentagon care about money?
4:18 It reminds me of the Supermarine S.6B, or its successor, the Spitfire of WWII.
4:11 3000 feet is basically a half of a mile?
The bar was that low for Guinness World Record people?!
where are you getting Epower on the battlefield? gas/ diesel generators. new fuel copters and tilt wings more useful and reliable.
The V-22 tilt rotor aircraft are currently grounded because they keep crashing. 😂 Where are you getting gas / diesel on a battlefield? ⛽️ It’s explosive, heavy, and expensive. 💥
當人們的核源料無副射，動能就不斷，馬達足以長久飛行。
If war breaks out, I hope our enemies would be considerate and allow us at least 8 hours to charge our batteries before the fight begins.
Where are the aircraft with windmills above the wings? I'll bet these electric expensive play toys will be good targets.
Colonel Diller sounds more like a DEI green energy promotion path than a serious military leader and engineer.
Let's start with the logistics of a new technology rather than the new technology. So you have an electric airplane that can't be recharged in air so it needs to always return to it's base. That base will have to have the means to recharge the electric plane. So if it takes a very long time to recharge a care how much longer will it take to recharge a plane that needs perhaps 100 times the time to get it ready for its next mission than a jet.
The batteries to drive an electric car increases the weight with respect to conventional cars and so that is added wear on the roads and reduces the duration of the charge.
The weight of the batteries on an electric plane is far greater than on a car and so it subtracts from the payload it can carry.
What about the supply, maintenance and the training needed to support an electric aircraft? You now have both jet engines to maintain and support and different fuels to run the generators to recharge the electric planes.
So I always see the excitement of electric tanks, military vehicles, aircraft, etc. but I never see the supply, logistics, maintenance, or sortie rates electric anything can generate that is more than the sortie rates we have with conventional equipment. And from where does all of this electricity come to charge hundreds of thousands of military equipment? Gee, it's generators that require fossil fuels because the military can't rely on the constant supply of commercial electricity but it can rely on the constant supply of fossil fuels by multiple different methods.
Maybe in the distant future the technology will allow electric vehicles to travel as far as conventional cars and there will be enough charging stations with the technology that you can recharge your EV faster than a gas station. And maybe in the future the military will have a way to recharge their electric vehicles and aircraft without using fossil fuels and can recharge them faster than they can with conventional jets.
Given the history of the evolution of new technologies that will impact the entire transportation of the US and the military, I think we are still about 50 to 100 years away IF we can solve the problem of generating sufficient electricity without fossil fuels.
However, places like California are shutting down fossil and nuclear fuels without having the needed wind (which is too expensive), solar (which is too expensive), and hydroelectric capacity to come close to replacing fossil and nuclear. But they have mandated in law without any evidence that alternatives can support California.
Guess what, California is importing electricity from neighboring states. Gee, you would think that a State that has declared it has no use for fossil or nuclear electricity wouldn't think of importing electricity from other states who are producing electricity from fossil and nuclear.
Liberals are complete morons. They only care about their agendas without considering the consequences.
Would work if they can swap the battery after each use. Better idea for a plane than a car, like Nio.
How is this aircraft going to recharge in the field. Seems very impractical, unless you need to go stealth mode.
Hope it doesn't get caught in the rain...
Once battery capacity isn't an issue, this market will explode for military first, then civilian.
Move us forward!!!! We could be just using power of wind. Lol
Waiting for next EMBRAER...
I’m a pilot & I’m pretty good at it, proof being solo record in my club & winning competitions. I can say pilots are like car drivers, some good, some average & some not so good. I really can’t imagine lots of citizens of the world flying around together, would be chaos & dangerous. I guess safety systems would eventually cure that though?
What was used to make the power to charge the batteries?
So why is the Civl Air Patrol(Air Force Auxilarry ) using Cessna aircraft made in Mexico with the fewest young pilots?
I applaud the emphasis towards technological changes in the aviation industry however it will always come down to practicality. Electric isn’t ready yet, not only due to capacity but also safety. Battery design has to change dramatically to reduce risk overall. Can you please review the negatives as well. I see only the spin on the positive side of electric with your site.
Where do they get the electricity they need on the front line of a war? It is much quicker to fuel up a plane than to recharge it.
Hot swap batteries. Shouldn't take longer than refueling. One problem is an entire infrastructure and supply chain needs to be created. Maybe a battery standard so different vehicles can share? Just my thought.
@@MarkBarrack How does that work out when the weather is super cold. Those Telsa trucks have been doing great in Rockies this winter.... /s
Pretty sure there won't be electric flying things until they come up with a light weight battery.
High Probability that Hybrid, or Plug-in Hybrid will be a "Starting Point" on that Path, Which Will allow for Multi-Mode Operations:
- Pure Electric, Straight Generator, and Supplemental Generator Operational Modes. IE: Whisper Mode, Range Extended Modes, and Battery Emergency Boost Potential. (Like Nitrous, at the track!)
As the presenter said “it doesn’t have much potenrial use in the military as yet”. It’s work in progress. You need to start somewhere…
Please increase this technology
Why are the top facing rotors being hidden from view?!
The LiOn battery has a very long way to go to equal the energy density to do the work of a fossil fuel.
a stratolaunch with a lifting body between the fuselages flying high, fast and efficiently while dropping empty batteries as autonomous planes would certainly make it across the pacific
it made much more sense to use electrical drives and brakes on the landing gear, to avoid using the turbines for taxiing and gain some energy when braking.
@@spxram4793 an electric a-10 would have no heat signature and the batteries would be extra armour
talk about polluting the ocean.
@@garygeorge9648 (you can land autonomous planes wherever you want them to land )
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This will be good for movement from point a to b😂.....
Gas combustion engines will NEVER replace good ol' reliable horses and mules. NEVER.
Who doesn’t love war machines be more green?
20 minute flight time - 12 hours to charge. Make sense to me, lol!
American tax dollars put to good use as always xD
Nonsense, charging time of new EVs or electric aircraft is 30 to 60 minutes.
How will the power grid handle the future EV demands. The power needed will require a complete overhaul of the way power is distributed. EV technologies are not supported yet and the batteries themselves are poorly designed. I’m waiting for ambulance and electric companies trucks to be electric. Thats tough!
@@WARESPOWERwe will have unlimited power from fusion soon
Also, most future ev’s will have bidirectional charging, meaning they can feed the grid they charge from.. adding their battery capacity
That’s idiotic
Ev’s take an hour to charge, they can do trans continental flights . There’s even a solar sailplane called sunseeker that charges as it flies.
I’ve questions people, how do you think, where there are take power for it? Coal, oil and nuclear fuel? And how are batteries produced and disposed of?
I suspect it wont be stationed in Alaska.
interesting design but they should build a military version that runs on kerosene. Would have better power density.
Weight and Earth's gravity are the main enemies of flying objects. It would be a leap in technology if someone or somebody can invent anti-gravity technology to defeat Earth's gravity.
Batteries just dont have the energy density. However, if you beam the power onto the craft from a C-band maser it changes the game. The best fuel is no fuel. The best battery is no battery.😁
4:38 GOOD shape!!!
Does the place the generated the electricity have zero emissions...yes/no?
I think the military is probably interested in reducing the reliance on fuel. They don't care about the environment very much. Transporting fuel is a vulnerable and expensive part of military logistics. Reducing reliance on one specific fuel is an advantage.
Another Green Energy Flight Contractor is in development of a rubber band powered aircraft.
Imagine airdropping a hexa to downed pilot so they can escape to a war zone
Lots of money in back door defence contracts! Cessnas are not heavy on fuel.
why doent it have solar panels on it to see how long it can fly
All very cool but the big issue why we will not see them anytime soon is simply the power. Less than a hour flight time?
Which is more then enough for many situations, emergency helicopters often have gas for less then 45 minutes on regular missions to be able to perform in difficult conditions
Hardened against EMP weapons I wonder.. And with the poles flipping weakening our magnetic shield (fluctuations/actual weak spots), solar disruptions will fry everything.. For military kit I'm not sure we should be relying on electric systems unless they are hardened
I can`t put up with continuous beat , music?
And just where do you think they get the batteries charged and by what? Nuclear or coal fired generators!
This would be better if they focused on next gen solar charging, sit on the runway all day fly all night!