I think that a nice idea for a Dakota in the finale idea would be if during her video message from her father, she kinda lashes out at him for turning her into a spoiled brat and not giving her a chance to live life the way it was meant to be lived, and essentially declaring her hatred for her dad, all of this leads to dakotas dad getting very angry and cutting her off, which could make winning in the finale have much higher stakes for Dakota, since she would essentially be on her own once the game was over.
5:05 “… as for everyone else, I don’t really see a connection,” I just wanted to bring up that Lightning and Dawn had a bit of a friendship before Scott framed her for theft. For the circumstantial stuff they always seem to stand together in scenes together (seriously it’s weird how much that happens on rewatch) and for the more obvious stuff Dawn saves Lightnings life (though that could just be her saving the bug) and they share a fist bump when they win the boat
While I was watching the video, it was still pre-merge, I wondered "Dakota could be a great protagonist" and wow she definitely could be. Her crush with Sam, her unusual friendship with Cameron and Brick (I imagine Brick and Dakota talking about fashion) and her realization about who she really is, rejecting her father and giving support to Jo about being herself...it would be a great character arc. Same for Zoey. I like her friendship with Dawn and this more naive version of Zoey, a bit like Lindsay is Island, the elimination of Dawn being a bit the equivalent of Beth's. I really like this idea of Dawn being here during finale and "Reading" Zoey about her Commando Zoey persona. I Can see Dawn saying something "It's not the really you, your aura is way more bright. You don't have to feel guilty of the Bad behavior or one person. Mike and I will not abandon you"
Great video! I love how Brick and Dakota made it further since they are some of my favorite characters from ROTI! My suggestion for a next video is: What if Courtney didn't drop the challenge and won it for her team in TDI, episode 12? It's half way through the season, so it's enough to discuss. :)
hmmm, i'd have to think about that one. I like the idea but whenever im doing a what if I try to rationalize how we get there first so it makes sense and its not just a massive change out of nowhere and I don't really think Season 1 Courtney could beat Gwen, Courtney at this point wasn't a unhinged challenge machine she was just kind of a good strategist which means I would have to change some things before hand (maybe cause Duncan and Courtney to break up/hate each other before the challenge so Courtney becomes a challenge beast but even then I would have to find a what if scenario where they would break up before or during that episode which might not even be possible) I'm planning on rewatching Island for a What If video I plan to make on it soon so when rewatching i'll keep your idea on the mind to see if it could work.
@@TDWonderer Courtney dropped the challenge only because she was bonding with Duncan the whole episode and he taught her how to be "lied back" and not to care so much. Even with their romance going on, Courtney was still very competitive and wanted to win while Gwen didn't really care. I also considered the fact Courtney did beat Gwen in the tiebreaker in WT, so I think she would've still be able to win here if she stayed determinated, even in her Island self.
@@mantasvilunas2636 I don't think they considered she was allergic to eucalyptus (assuming they knew) and they needed something Australia themed. Not the best evidence indeed, but Courtney still could beat Gwen if she stayed competitive in that episode of TDI.
I feel like Cameron being aware of Dakota at a disadvantage would make the same suit he had, but instead of shouting the controls, he would make it simple enough for Dakota to understand.
Aside from Jo going out earlier, this feels like a massive improvement to the season, utilizing, Dakota, Brick, Dawn, Commander Zoey and honestly even Scott better. Going into into Allstars after this would also give the season a massive buff since it would free Zoey from needing to get the win so she can lose her blatant plot armor.
I wouldve liked this way more than the original season. I love how far Brick and Dakota made it. I also love seeing the Sam and Dakota dynamic a lot more!
I keep coming back to watch this video because it's such a fun watch. One thing I think could be a good arc for Dakota, to make it make a bit more sense with her win, is a training arc where she comes to Brick wanting to be a better player.
Also I just remembered the clip at the end where brick said he wanted to go to fashion school so that could be a cute moment with him and Dakota or smth
This was amazing! Hopefully, one day, you can do a part 2 of All Stars! Just thinking of how these versions of Dakota, Zoey, Brick, Scott, Mike, Lightning, & Sam would do against the OGs.
That would be interesting to see! Another thing of note is that, due to Jo not being there and how Zoey became a bit villainous at the end, she'd be on the Villain team, since none of the others would fit there.
damn, that's really creative I didn't even think about doing part two of What ifs. I'll make sure do that in the near future especially seeing how well this video performed I think there'd be enough interest in the idea.
Another great one. really love how in-depth you go into it all. I will say that the cursive fount you use to edit in what you missed can sometimes be hard to read. Really like how well you think this through. Keep them coming and I'll keep watching :D
I agree, looking back now I don't know what I was thinking with this font. I was tired editing last night and just kind of didn't notice, dw though i'll make sure that the next video has readable font thanks for bringing it to my attention.
extremely interesting introspective, ive been thinking about a tdri rewrite a bit lately so alternate turnouts are always cool to see was disappointed when i saw dawn still got eliminated in backstabbers, but having her play a bigger role in the finale 100% made up for that it was also really cool seeing brick and dakota get so far- hell i didnt even expect her to get to the merge, let alone the finale
The finale seems way better it being an all girl to be a perarel to the original all boys is really cool and the tittle could be something like"brawnvsbeauty the ultimate showdown
NGL aside from Jo going early, I honestly would have like the season a lot more if it was written like this. Feels like there's more character development. Great work!
Great video! If your open for it i have a suggestion. What if Katie never switched teams in TDI. In the og Izzy agreed to switch but what if nobody agreed to switch? I think it would be really interesting and could get both Katie and Sadie more character development
im always open for suggestions, that one sounds fairly short though so i'll save it for a week where im busy with life so I can still get a video out. For now though i'm trying to make sure I get some fairly bigger videos in while im getting used to editing and making videos. Still good idea though and i'll make sure to get around to it at some point
Pretty sure Owen voted for her anyway so it would've been a tie, and up to TDWT there were no tiebreakers EXCEPT for the TDA final, so I think the tiebreaker would be exactly like in the final (the eliminated contestants would vote whoever they wanted to win the tiebreaker) so, I think the votes would go like this : Bridgette and Geoff would both vote for Lindsay, Trent would vote for Lindsay, Gwen would vote for Duncan, Heather would vote for Duncan, Leshawna would vote for Lindsay, DJ would vote for Lindsay, Justin would vote for Lindsay, and Izzy... would vote for Explosivo so Lindsay wins!!! Now I don't really remember the rest of the episodes very well, but I'm pretty sure the next episode is the one with the robots, so I think the duos would be Courtney and Lindsay (since, y'know, Courtney hates Lindsay) and Harold and Beth, 'cause Lindsay and Beth would just be too easy, and Courtney and Beth would be too boring since we already know what happened in the original anyway, and Harold and Beth would actually be an interesting duo since they're both just geeks. I do think Courtney would still be the coach(cause Lindsay is just too stupid), and Harold will still be the fighter (of his duo) 'cause Beth would definitely refuse to fight Lindsay (or actually, just press the buttons that hurt her) and Harold knows that if he forces Beth to be the fighter and basically let Harold make her punch her friend she would target him if they lose, so he lets Beth go easy on Lindsay, and prays that Courtney messes up. And while fighting in the robot suits, Beth actually goes easy on Lindsay, but Courtney would absolutely mash the buttons and Lindsay realises this and pleads her to stop, but Courtney presses some buttons to punch Lindsay, and Beth yells at her to stop it, and in a fit of rage throws the controller on the ground and jumps at Courtney, making her drop her own controller and fight aswell. Both of the controllers land with the buttons face down, so both robots clash with eachother and (I know many wouldn't like this but...) the robots land on Courtney and Beth as they scream while seeing them three seconds before, and they get medically evacuated out of the competition, just like Cody in TDI. Lindsay would cry while hugging Beth goodbye, but Beth would tell her to not be sad, and to win for her. In the next challenge, the space one, Owen still breaks one of the spaceship's windows, but this time Harold sees it with his eyes, and after he pushes Owen in the hole, he tells Lindsay about it. Next, Harold gets to decide the other in which the three of them go in the next part of the challenge, and he puts himself last, Owen first and Lindsay second. Owen still farts in the vomit ship or whatever it's called, and he lasts 10 seconds before hearing a stomach groan and quitting, Lindsay smells the fart in the ship and vomits before she even goes in thus getting disqualified, and so Harold just has to hold his breath for a bit before the smell clears, and get his mind outta that spaceship. While in the ship, Harold has thoughts about Owen's sabotage, which makes him not even think about the fart smell or puking, so he lasts around 20 seconds and wins immunity. Him and Lindsay vote Owen and he's out. While walking to the Limo-of-shame, Owen stops and asks Chris about the money, and Chris has the same talk as in the original next episode where Courtney and Owen get eliminated. Since there's only two people now, I think the next episode about the animals would actually be preceded by an aftermath similar to the one before the final 3 race in TDWT, where Lindsay's and Harold's supporters would have to go through the shapes instead of what Beth and Duncan did in the original final of TDA, to get their favourite player an advantage for the animal challenge, like food, toys and such. Lindsay would still have most of her supporters, and she would lose Leshawna but gain Beth, Duncan and Owen. Harold would normally only have Heather (hates Lindsay), Leshawna and Courtney (hates Lindsay). Chris would notice this, so to make it fair, he puts Izzy, Duncan and DJ on Harold's team. So these are the teams : Geoff, Bridgette, Trent, Gwen, Justin, Beth and Owen support Lindsay, and Leshawna, Heather, Courtney, Duncan, DJ and Izzy support Harold. (7-6) Gwen and Beth make it for Lindsay while Geoff, Trent, Justin and Owen comically fail (and Beth is literally in a wheelchair so of course she fails). Coincidentally enough, Duncan, DJ and Izzy, the new members of Harold's team are the only three to make it through the shapes, while Leshawna and Heather fail (and Courtney is literally in a wheelchair so of course she fails). Harold's team wins him the advantage (3-2). Now in the actual animal episode, Harold is only given THE MAP to the location of the food and things, when he meets Chris and Beth at the cafeteria. Chef and the three go to Camp Wawanakwa, where Harold is also given the first animal pick as part of the advantage. He can choose from the shark, bear, raccoon and chameleon. He chooses the raccoon and Lindsay is scared of sharks and bears so she chooses the chameleon. The contestants are given an hour to train their animal to do their tricks and then get to TDA's movie set at the voting ceremony place to get judged by Chef. But the thing is, since in my version going from the set to the camp and back takes 30 minutes, Harold doesn't really have that much time to both find the food and bond with the raccoon, my alternate endings are : 1. Harold finds the food and the toys in the Killer Bass' boys cabin, trains the raccoon to do a couple tricks and gets back to the set in time for Chef to judge him and give him the win! [Lindsay obviously wouldn't know how to train a chameleon and might not even realise it went missing before boarding the boat back to set anyways even if she could, in any way, train a *chameleon*] (After winning, Harold would also get a smooch and a cute hug from Leshawna as he whispers "I finally got the sugar...") 2. Harold holds the map the wrong way, spends too much time on trying to find the food and toys and as the hour passes by, Lindsay gets to the set and automatically wins because of Harold's disqualification for not making it back in time. [Lindsay didn't even have any tricks planned out anyways, she would even say it in a confessional.] (Tyler comes rushing to Lindsay and hugs her dearly as she says "I did it Tyrese!" to which Tyler says "It's Tyler..." and then they make out as Beth, Katie and Sadie would jump around them out of happiness and say "aaawwwww" when they would make out.)
I didn't realize how much I needed Dakota development until watching this video. I knew I needed it, yeah, but I didn't know how much, nor did I know just how good it could be! ❤
Since your wanting longer videos, ill suggest one that ive never seen anywhere else What if Owen and Noah got eliminated instead of the tennis rivals? A lot of stuff would be changed mainly due to Emma now, since Noah just isnt here. Also despite how somewhat popular this kind of videos become (the what-if scenarios) i still havent seen anything for Ridonculous Race, and the one im suggesting starts at episode 3, meaning the entire seasons changed
I love Ridonculous Race as a season but for What-ifs its really annoying to write for since there are a lot of skips the show makes especially during earlier episodes where they just say what teams got the middle placements without much reason which makes it hard to consider how if different teams were there, how they would perform. I do love the season and would like to try a what-if for the season at some point but im still pretty new to this type of content so for now im gonna continue with normal seasons to get a hang of it. (but i'll make sure that if I do a what-if for ridonculous race, that its this idea because I like it a lot)
this video was fantastic absolutely love how you did everything and took all factors into consideration, here's some ideas for other videos since I love your video style! What if Lindsay voted Duncan in TDA? What if Emma was the first boot in TDI? What if Amy never returned in Pahkitew Island? What if Harold didn't rig the votes? What if Team Chris won the 'i see london' challenge? What if Heather never left the immunity totem in All-Stars? What if Courtney never made the Chart?
I love how much more interactions in character development is opens but I don’t realistically see Dakota making it to the finale I do think it would’ve been really cool if she made it farther and her canon fate was just beyond terrible
that one is definitely interesting, problem is that island already has a massive cast and I feel Alejandro couldn't really work as a main villain with Heather. I'll consider it because that opens a lot of options storywise but it would definitely be long so im gonna wait to do that one when my life is a lot less busy. Love the idea though
i absolutely love this video the what if I would love to see is what if Trent never threw challenges and started obsessing over Gwen and the number 9 so basically what if Trent never went insane and got derailed in total drama action but I love your video's and hope your day is amazing!
I like the idea but i'll wait do that idea once my life is less busy because i don't think i really have to say but this idea would need A LOT of writing
@TD Wonderer Understandble your gonna need to write new plot lines for Courtney, Noah, Eva, Tyler, Cody, Ezekiel, Kaite, and Sadie alongside the cannon Action cast so I expected it to take a bit to write
Well if it was 100% and Jo and Lightning swapped, there could've been something with Dakota being overwhelmed by boys, while Sam tries to calm her and help.
My way tbh 13:Mike 12:Stacy 11:Anne-Maria Double elimination 10:sam 9:Lightning Merge 8:Joe 7:Cameron 6:B. 5:Dakota 4:Scott 3:Zoey 2:Brick 1:Dawn! I feel like the revenge of the island cast should have another season to themselves 13:B. 12:Scott 11:Mike 10:Stacy 9:Anne-Maria 8:Cameron 7:Lightning 6:Zoey Merge 5:Cameron 4:Brick 3:Sam 2:Dawn 1:Dakota
Spoilers for 36:38 Damn when I thought Scott was gone I was just like jeez... they don't have any brawns left on that team. And since the rats are all strong, Dakota would talk to Cameron and say something like, "Okay I'm the beauty you're the brains and we need to stick together against all the other goddamn brawns on the other team." Kind of sad we didn't get this now. Dakota and Cameron alone on a team is really funny to me
One little thing i thought would be cool in Dakota's winning ending is that while she in the suit she askes Cam if it has a phone then she calls the paparazzi and they come and start taking pictures and it distracts Zoe with the lights so she runs in.
44:55 I strongly disagree with how this vote played out. Let me explain (spoilers below the cut) Okay so, Brick has immunity, Brick and Dakota are working together because they're friends, and Mike and Zoey just made up. Great. Mike, Dakota, and Brick were all on the same team since the start and think fairly highly of each other. Brick was pretty popular, Mike + his alters did a lot of good stuff in challenges, and admittedly Dakota and Mike didn't interact much but they don't have too much of a reason to dislike each other. Scott was on a team with Zoey this whole game and has been whispering in her ear this whole time, but I still don't think Zoey really trusts him, more that she just feels obligated to help him and listen when he talks. Mike and Zoey the one time they both got to vote voted separately. (Mike for Scott due to several reasons and Zoey for Dakota because she was super uncomfortable about it) I don't think either Brick or Dakota are strategic enough to coordinate their votes, but they both vote for Scott anyways. Brick actively dislikes him, and Dakota would know this and due to her own biases would definitely not like the "dirty farm boy" and want him out. Zoey and Mike also don't really vote together, but obviously they're not voting for each other so it's between Dakota and Scott. Mike defineltly votes Scott because all the way back in the third episode of the original, when he had barely interacted with Cameron and literally never talked to Scott bc they were on opposite teams, he tells Zoey, "Be careful. I think Scott's psycho." Mike just does not like or trust Scott and the only way he'd every vote for Dakota (his former teammate) over him is if Zoey asked him to AND he was trying to make something up to her. He does want to make it up to Zoey, but Zoey wouldn't even ask him because she won't directly vote for Scott but she doesn't truly like him, just feels obligated to him. So Scott just goes here. Unless he goes *really* heavy on the talking to Zoey and Mike part, which could only maybe work. In terms of what is said in the video, Brick has way more integrity than that. Also, there's no way Dakota would swap her vote off of Scott unless one of the others annoyed her *and* he offered her like a new phone or a down pillow or something. But Brick's vote is certain. Scott's definitely out in a normal episode. But here is how he can save himself: Make a new pillow out of the wings he used in this episode. Offer it to Dakota in exchange for her voting Zoey tonight. Dakota accepts because she has internalized misogyny. Talk to Zoey and ask her to get Mike to vote out Dakota with them because he's "Scared that I'm going to go and I don't want that. :'(" Zoey accepts because she barely knows Dakota and also has internalized misogyny. She asks Mike to consider voting for Dakota instead of Scott tonight, and Mike says "Sure Zoey! :)" because he's trying to make things up to Zoey and also is a sucker. Brick is still voting Scott. The final votes are one for Zoey, one for Scott, and three for Dakota. Obviously all of this requires Scott to have planning skills and the ability to notice in the first place that both Mike and Dakota are voting for him. Note that he probably still goes next vote because nobody left likes him. If you read all of this, hey thanks! I really like these guys and have a bunch of thoughts on them. Tell me if you disagree or can think of another way Scott could save himself. Edit: actually he could probably convince Dakota to vote Mike, and maybe he could order Brick to vote out Mike as well like how Jo ordered him around in the original by taking advantage of his reflex to obey. Heck, he could just command Brick to not vote him out and steamroll his objections, and since Brick never had the moment of regretting not sticking to his code he'd probably listen. And then it doesn't matter who Brick actually votes so long as it isn't Dakota and Scott because the votes would be this One for Dakota, one for Scott, probably one for Zoey because she wasn't originally on Brick's team, and then two for Mike. Thanks to Scott splitting the vote so much he only needs to directly control Dakota in order to eliminate Mike. Edit 2: Honestly I was pretty uncharitable when interpreting Dakota's character. She's not that shallow even in canon, and here she's had a fair amount of just hanging out and making real connections so I don't think she'd do anything so petty here. But I still believe Scott could talk her into voting for Mike. Maybe convince her that Mike and Zoey are being too unbreakable and strong of a team by pointing out how they were using the same vehicle today? Or since she talked about screentime a lot earlier in the season he says them being a couple means the cameras will always be focused on them since romance is good for ratings, which wouldn't convince her but it would remind her of Sam or something and how she had to vote him out. I'm not too sure how this would happen since Scott never manipulates Dakota's vote in canon, but he definitely could.
yeah absolutely! the whole point of creating content is for it be something for everyone to enjoy and recreating it into something else would be pretty neat. im not the biggest fan of writing or reading fanfics but anyone is welcome to create one about any of my what ifs
One question: Mike found the key in the garbage after being blackmailed by Scott to do so. Without that blackmail, would he still look in the garbage? I wouldn’t imagine so because he seemed really opposed to it. 🤔
Mike obviously wasn't thrilled to look through the trash but its part of the challenge to look for keys so I would think that he'd still do it because its either that or he doesn't find one at all since everyone else found their keys within a couple minutes. (also if you look at the clip he was more opposed to the fact that Scott was forcing him to not help Zoey)
@@TDWonderer ah, fair fair. I keep forgetting Mike isn’t a clean freak like Dakota or… (wait does Anne Maria care about gross things?). He got puked on by a maggot and he came out of it with little more than an “okay okay, I’m going”. Clearly the boy has a strong stomach. What made me think that he wouldn’t look in the garbage on his own was his “gross, ew ew ew” from the original scene, but with a clearer head and your reasoning, I’ve realised two things: 1. TD crew is inconsistent with characterisation so everything is off the table (must I bring up the dissonance between Chinese Fake-Out and Sundae Muddy Sundae?) 2. Mike has reservations on gross activities, but his motivation to do good trumps that (he be the kinda person to not wanna do the gross thing, but someone is in danger if he doesn’t, so he’ll do it anyway while continuing to say “gross gross gross gross gross” as a form of self-therapy lol me too man) In short, you are right, Mike WOULD still look in the garbage despite his hesitation. Thank you for your reply, and thank you for making this video! Many people have already said it, but I’ll repeat it: This is better than the original show! Keep up the great work 👍🏼
A Brick and Dakota friendship (and also Dakota + Cameron friendship) was not something I expected from a TDROTI AU but I am here for it.
It makes a lot of sense, given he wants to go to fashion school. They could bond with that
why do I actually like this finale better than the original lol
I think that a nice idea for a Dakota in the finale idea would be if during her video message from her father, she kinda lashes out at him for turning her into a spoiled brat and not giving her a chance to live life the way it was meant to be lived, and essentially declaring her hatred for her dad, all of this leads to dakotas dad getting very angry and cutting her off, which could make winning in the finale have much higher stakes for Dakota, since she would essentially be on her own once the game was over.
I like the idea of making her have real stakes but, I feel like with that it basically confrim that she is the canon winner
Honestly I like this scenario more than original one especially for dakota, brick and dawn characters and how good the finale was
From second boot to finalist, what a glow-up
it would be cool if when Zoey got struck, she would get her original brown hair.
Creative! I like the idea
She had brown hair originally?
@@JakesoontobeJack well it was confirmed but never shown
Yea
@@That_KittyGirL you figured out what those videos will be about
Omg brick and dakota would be such a cute friendship, especially with the fact that brick wants to go to fashion school
5:05 “… as for everyone else, I don’t really see a connection,” I just wanted to bring up that Lightning and Dawn had a bit of a friendship before Scott framed her for theft. For the circumstantial stuff they always seem to stand together in scenes together (seriously it’s weird how much that happens on rewatch) and for the more obvious stuff Dawn saves Lightnings life (though that could just be her saving the bug) and they share a fist bump when they win the boat
While I was watching the video, it was still pre-merge, I wondered "Dakota could be a great protagonist" and wow she definitely could be. Her crush with Sam, her unusual friendship with Cameron and Brick (I imagine Brick and Dakota talking about fashion) and her realization about who she really is, rejecting her father and giving support to Jo about being herself...it would be a great character arc. Same for Zoey. I like her friendship with Dawn and this more naive version of Zoey, a bit like Lindsay is Island, the elimination of Dawn being a bit the equivalent of Beth's. I really like this idea of Dawn being here during finale and "Reading" Zoey about her Commando Zoey persona. I Can see Dawn saying something "It's not the really you, your aura is way more bright. You don't have to feel guilty of the Bad behavior or one person. Mike and I will not abandon you"
Great video! I love how Brick and Dakota made it further since they are some of my favorite characters from ROTI! My suggestion for a next video is: What if Courtney didn't drop the challenge and won it for her team in TDI, episode 12? It's half way through the season, so it's enough to discuss. :)
hmmm, i'd have to think about that one. I like the idea but whenever im doing a what if I try to rationalize how we get there first so it makes sense and its not just a massive change out of nowhere and I don't really think Season 1 Courtney could beat Gwen, Courtney at this point wasn't a unhinged challenge machine she was just kind of a good strategist which means I would have to change some things before hand (maybe cause Duncan and Courtney to break up/hate each other before the challenge so Courtney becomes a challenge beast but even then I would have to find a what if scenario where they would break up before or during that episode which might not even be possible) I'm planning on rewatching Island for a What If video I plan to make on it soon so when rewatching i'll keep your idea on the mind to see if it could work.
@@TDWonderer Courtney dropped the challenge only because she was bonding with Duncan the whole episode and he taught her how to be "lied back" and not to care so much. Even with their romance going on, Courtney was still very competitive and wanted to win while Gwen didn't really care. I also considered the fact Courtney did beat Gwen in the tiebreaker in WT, so I think she would've still be able to win here if she stayed determinated, even in her Island self.
@@entymash a tiebreaker that was rigged against Gwen,not exactly the best evidence
@@mantasvilunas2636 I don't think they considered she was allergic to eucalyptus (assuming they knew) and they needed something Australia themed. Not the best evidence indeed, but Courtney still could beat Gwen if she stayed competitive in that episode of TDI.
This was soo good! I loved that Brick and Dakota made it so far sad Jo got booted early but honestly this elimination order was rlly good tbh
yeah, jo is a truly underrated character in ROTI
@@TDWonderer yeah i really like jo as a villain in the sense that she annoys me sometimes and i think she's an ass but i enjoyed her character a lot
I feel like Cameron being aware of Dakota at a disadvantage would make the same suit he had, but instead of shouting the controls, he would make it simple enough for Dakota to understand.
Aside from Jo going out earlier, this feels like a massive improvement to the season, utilizing, Dakota, Brick, Dawn, Commander Zoey and honestly even Scott better.
Going into into Allstars after this would also give the season a massive buff since it would free Zoey from needing to get the win so she can lose her blatant plot armor.
I wouldve liked this way more than the original season. I love how far Brick and Dakota made it. I also love seeing the Sam and Dakota dynamic a lot more!
You are slowly becoming my favourite td youtuber keep up the good work ❤
thanks, thats very kind
I keep coming back to watch this video because it's such a fun watch. One thing I think could be a good arc for Dakota, to make it make a bit more sense with her win, is a training arc where she comes to Brick wanting to be a better player.
Also I just remembered the clip at the end where brick said he wanted to go to fashion school so that could be a cute moment with him and Dakota or smth
Brick trains Dakota in exchange for her giving him critiques on design sketches he has in a sketchbook he brought with him 👀
This was amazing! Hopefully, one day, you can do a part 2 of All Stars!
Just thinking of how these versions of Dakota, Zoey, Brick, Scott, Mike, Lightning, & Sam would do against the OGs.
That would be interesting to see! Another thing of note is that, due to Jo not being there and how Zoey became a bit villainous at the end, she'd be on the Villain team, since none of the others would fit there.
damn, that's really creative I didn't even think about doing part two of What ifs. I'll make sure do that in the near future especially seeing how well this video performed I think there'd be enough interest in the idea.
Now Sam's inclusion makes sense with Dakota joining
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Another great one. really love how in-depth you go into it all. I will say that the cursive fount you use to edit in what you missed can sometimes be hard to read. Really like how well you think this through. Keep them coming and I'll keep watching :D
I agree, looking back now I don't know what I was thinking with this font. I was tired editing last night and just kind of didn't notice, dw though i'll make sure that the next video has readable font thanks for bringing it to my attention.
extremely interesting introspective, ive been thinking about a tdri rewrite a bit lately so alternate turnouts are always cool to see
was disappointed when i saw dawn still got eliminated in backstabbers, but having her play a bigger role in the finale 100% made up for that
it was also really cool seeing brick and dakota get so far- hell i didnt even expect her to get to the merge, let alone the finale
Instead of a guys only finale, it'd be a girls only finale, something I wish we'd get from Total Drama by now.
why is this better than the original
Dakota was my favorite from roti, and I love that she made it so far! Great video and I really like the plot
thanks, you are very kind
Great What If videos! love how in depth you make them
I love this version, you gave to Brick and Dakota the development that writers have wasted, your version is even better than the original
The finale seems way better it being an all girl to be a perarel to the original all boys is really cool and the tittle could be something like"brawnvsbeauty the ultimate showdown
I think “brute vs beauty” would sound better
Kinda weird to me that Zoey wouldn't go with B as her helper in the finale, knowing that he is a genius inventor.
NGL aside from Jo going early, I honestly would have like the season a lot more if it was written like this. Feels like there's more character development. Great work!
I would love to see Brick confide in Dakota about wanting to go to fashion school and her trying to be nicer and help.
Okay but why is this so much better
I’m glad Dakota didn’t become a monster this time
In the actual roti Dakota didnt deserve the Ezekiel treatment bcs wtf she had so much potential and this video brought it out
“It’d be weird to have only 1 girl on a team”
Izzy entered the chat
Cody entered the chat
True (Cody is very girly).
Add Sierra since she was the only girl in Team Chris originally.
@@JakesoontobeJackshe wasnt even in that team for a episode izzy was there for like 12 episodes
I really like your style of the what if. You are going in-deph and every aspect of a challange is thought out. Plus i really like your voice :)
wow, thanks for the compliment on my voice, don't get what you hear in it but glad you like it.
You should do an all stars follow up because this what if is fantastic.
Great video! If your open for it i have a suggestion. What if Katie never switched teams in TDI. In the og Izzy agreed to switch but what if nobody agreed to switch? I think it would be really interesting and could get both Katie and Sadie more character development
This is a very interesting idea and it makes way more sense, good job
This video is really fun! I like that the finale came down to their relationships with the other cast members, it's really strong theming
Another great video!! If you take suggestions for these, then Id be curios abt what would happen if Lindsay didnt accidentally vote herself in Action
im always open for suggestions, that one sounds fairly short though so i'll save it for a week where im busy with life so I can still get a video out. For now though i'm trying to make sure I get some fairly bigger videos in while im getting used to editing and making videos. Still good idea though and i'll make sure to get around to it at some point
Pretty sure Owen voted for her anyway so it would've been a tie, and up to TDWT there were no tiebreakers EXCEPT for the TDA final, so I think the tiebreaker would be exactly like in the final (the eliminated contestants would vote whoever they wanted to win the tiebreaker) so, I think the votes would go like this : Bridgette and Geoff would both vote for Lindsay, Trent would vote for Lindsay, Gwen would vote for Duncan, Heather would vote for Duncan, Leshawna would vote for Lindsay, DJ would vote for Lindsay, Justin would vote for Lindsay, and Izzy... would vote for Explosivo so Lindsay wins!!!
Now I don't really remember the rest of the episodes very well, but I'm pretty sure the next episode is the one with the robots, so I think the duos would be Courtney and Lindsay (since, y'know, Courtney hates Lindsay) and Harold and Beth, 'cause Lindsay and Beth would just be too easy, and Courtney and Beth would be too boring since we already know what happened in the original anyway, and Harold and Beth would actually be an interesting duo since they're both just geeks. I do think Courtney would still be the coach(cause Lindsay is just too stupid), and Harold will still be the fighter (of his duo) 'cause Beth would definitely refuse to fight Lindsay (or actually, just press the buttons that hurt her) and Harold knows that if he forces Beth to be the fighter and basically let Harold make her punch her friend she would target him if they lose, so he lets Beth go easy on Lindsay, and prays that Courtney messes up. And while fighting in the robot suits, Beth actually goes easy on Lindsay, but Courtney would absolutely mash the buttons and Lindsay realises this and pleads her to stop, but Courtney presses some buttons to punch Lindsay, and Beth yells at her to stop it, and in a fit of rage throws the controller on the ground and jumps at Courtney, making her drop her own controller and fight aswell. Both of the controllers land with the buttons face down, so both robots clash with eachother and (I know many wouldn't like this but...) the robots land on Courtney and Beth as they scream while seeing them three seconds before, and they get medically evacuated out of the competition, just like Cody in TDI. Lindsay would cry while hugging Beth goodbye, but Beth would tell her to not be sad, and to win for her. In the next challenge, the space one, Owen still breaks one of the spaceship's windows, but this time Harold sees it with his eyes, and after he pushes Owen in the hole, he tells Lindsay about it. Next, Harold gets to decide the other in which the three of them go in the next part of the challenge, and he puts himself last, Owen first and Lindsay second. Owen still farts in the vomit ship or whatever it's called, and he lasts 10 seconds before hearing a stomach groan and quitting, Lindsay smells the fart in the ship and vomits before she even goes in thus getting disqualified, and so Harold just has to hold his breath for a bit before the smell clears, and get his mind outta that spaceship. While in the ship, Harold has thoughts about Owen's sabotage, which makes him not even think about the fart smell or puking, so he lasts around 20 seconds and wins immunity. Him and Lindsay vote Owen and he's out. While walking to the Limo-of-shame, Owen stops and asks Chris about the money, and Chris has the same talk as in the original next episode where Courtney and Owen get eliminated.
Since there's only two people now, I think the next episode about the animals would actually be preceded by an aftermath similar to the one before the final 3 race in TDWT, where Lindsay's and Harold's supporters would have to go through the shapes instead of what Beth and Duncan did in the original final of TDA, to get their favourite player an advantage for the animal challenge, like food, toys and such. Lindsay would still have most of her supporters, and she would lose Leshawna but gain Beth, Duncan and Owen. Harold would normally only have Heather (hates Lindsay), Leshawna and Courtney (hates Lindsay). Chris would notice this, so to make it fair, he puts Izzy, Duncan and DJ on Harold's team. So these are the teams : Geoff, Bridgette, Trent, Gwen, Justin, Beth and Owen support Lindsay, and Leshawna, Heather, Courtney, Duncan, DJ and Izzy support Harold. (7-6)
Gwen and Beth make it for Lindsay while Geoff, Trent, Justin and Owen comically fail (and Beth is literally in a wheelchair so of course she fails). Coincidentally enough, Duncan, DJ and Izzy, the new members of Harold's team are the only three to make it through the shapes, while Leshawna and Heather fail (and Courtney is literally in a wheelchair so of course she fails). Harold's team wins him the advantage (3-2).
Now in the actual animal episode, Harold is only given THE MAP to the location of the food and things, when he meets Chris and Beth at the cafeteria. Chef and the three go to Camp Wawanakwa, where Harold is also given the first animal pick as part of the advantage. He can choose from the shark, bear, raccoon and chameleon. He chooses the raccoon and Lindsay is scared of sharks and bears so she chooses the chameleon. The contestants are given an hour to train their animal to do their tricks and then get to TDA's movie set at the voting ceremony place to get judged by Chef. But the thing is, since in my version going from the set to the camp and back takes 30 minutes, Harold doesn't really have that much time to both find the food and bond with the raccoon, my alternate endings are :
1. Harold finds the food and the toys in the Killer Bass' boys cabin, trains the raccoon to do a couple tricks and gets back to the set in time for Chef to judge him and give him the win! [Lindsay obviously wouldn't know how to train a chameleon and might not even realise it went missing before boarding the boat back to set anyways even if she could, in any way, train a *chameleon*] (After winning, Harold would also get a smooch and a cute hug from Leshawna as he whispers "I finally got the sugar...")
2. Harold holds the map the wrong way, spends too much time on trying to find the food and toys and as the hour passes by, Lindsay gets to the set and automatically wins because of Harold's disqualification for not making it back in time. [Lindsay didn't even have any tricks planned out anyways, she would even say it in a confessional.] (Tyler comes rushing to Lindsay and hugs her dearly as she says "I did it Tyrese!" to which Tyler says "It's Tyler..." and then they make out as Beth, Katie and Sadie would jump around them out of happiness and say "aaawwwww" when they would make out.)
I didn't realize how much I needed Dakota development until watching this video. I knew I needed it, yeah, but I didn't know how much, nor did I know just how good it could be! ❤
Since your wanting longer videos, ill suggest one that ive never seen anywhere else
What if Owen and Noah got eliminated instead of the tennis rivals? A lot of stuff would be changed mainly due to Emma now, since Noah just isnt here.
Also despite how somewhat popular this kind of videos become (the what-if scenarios) i still havent seen anything for Ridonculous Race, and the one im suggesting starts at episode 3, meaning the entire seasons changed
I love Ridonculous Race as a season but for What-ifs its really annoying to write for since there are a lot of skips the show makes especially during earlier episodes where they just say what teams got the middle placements without much reason which makes it hard to consider how if different teams were there, how they would perform. I do love the season and would like to try a what-if for the season at some point but im still pretty new to this type of content so for now im gonna continue with normal seasons to get a hang of it.
(but i'll make sure that if I do a what-if for ridonculous race, that its this idea because I like it a lot)
this video was fantastic absolutely love how you did everything and took all factors into consideration, here's some ideas for other videos since I love your video style!
What if Lindsay voted Duncan in TDA?
What if Emma was the first boot in TDI?
What if Amy never returned in Pahkitew Island?
What if Harold didn't rig the votes?
What if Team Chris won the 'i see london' challenge?
What if Heather never left the immunity totem in All-Stars?
What if Courtney never made the Chart?
hmmm, don't know how you did that but im currently working on my next video and its based on one of the ideas you just sent, so good job on that
@@TDWonderer woohoo cool! Can't wait to see it
I did this once
And cameron and scott were the finalists-
That's what I got originally, though that was with Lightning on Mutant Maggots and Jo on Toxic Rats.
god you are great at this IM SHOCKED
I love how much more interactions in character development is opens but I don’t realistically see Dakota making it to the finale I do think it would’ve been really cool if she made it farther and her canon fate was just beyond terrible
ong dakota making it this far gives me so much life
Dakota's fr a girlboss in this
What if sierra and alejandro were in island
that one is definitely interesting, problem is that island already has a massive cast and I feel Alejandro couldn't really work as a main villain with Heather. I'll consider it because that opens a lot of options storywise but it would definitely be long so im gonna wait to do that one when my life is a lot less busy. Love the idea though
@@TDWondererThat poll you made sure doesn't favor a shorter video, I'll tell you what.
i absolutely love this video the what if I would love to see is what if Trent never threw challenges and started obsessing over Gwen and the number 9 so basically what if Trent never went insane and got derailed in total drama action but I love your video's and hope your day is amazing!
What if idea: What if Total Drama Action had the full cast from Island?
I like the idea but i'll wait do that idea once my life is less busy because i don't think i really have to say but this idea would need A LOT of writing
@TD Wonderer Understandble your gonna need to write new plot lines for Courtney, Noah, Eva, Tyler, Cody, Ezekiel, Kaite, and Sadie alongside the cannon Action cast so I expected it to take a bit to write
Yes Dakota was my fave character!
What if the teams were correct? More like what if the season was 10 times better written 😭
I do not tolerate roti slander/j
Really liked this 🎉 great job rationalizing what would have happen I think you did great with this video
This vid was a banger
We need a what if with stacy winning
april fools, here we come
What if Staci was never eliminated in any challenge?
I imagine it:
"Here's how Staci will win Total Drama Revenge Of The Island:
Haha, April Fools. You really thought I would let her win?"
Well if it was 100% and Jo and Lightning swapped, there could've been something with Dakota being overwhelmed by boys, while Sam tries to calm her and help.
My way tbh
13:Mike
12:Stacy
11:Anne-Maria
Double elimination
10:sam
9:Lightning
Merge
8:Joe
7:Cameron
6:B.
5:Dakota
4:Scott
3:Zoey
2:Brick
1:Dawn!
I feel like the revenge of the island cast should have another season to themselves
13:B.
12:Scott
11:Mike
10:Stacy
9:Anne-Maria
8:Cameron
7:Lightning
6:Zoey
Merge
5:Cameron
4:Brick
3:Sam
2:Dawn
1:Dakota
i always assumed that he had already determined the teams and he just would tell them which team they’re on as they arrived ??
Its a shame Anne Maria has cancer
Just as much of a shame as Beardo died.
I need this as a podcast
Jo going that early is devastating for me
Same here. She's my second favorite of ROTI, only beaten by Lightning.
Same
Awesome channel. Subbed
Dakota ending is easily the best one, she placed so much higher
Zoey just lasted 1 more challenge
And Dakota is just a better character
these videos are so good for my neurodivergent brain i love these so much
Spoilers for 36:38
Damn when I thought Scott was gone I was just like jeez... they don't have any brawns left on that team. And since the rats are all strong, Dakota would talk to Cameron and say something like, "Okay I'm the beauty you're the brains and we need to stick together against all the other goddamn brawns on the other team."
Kind of sad we didn't get this now. Dakota and Cameron alone on a team is really funny to me
You should do what if another person won the redemption except for blainley like maybe Tyler or someone else
can you do a what if for the newer season "What if MK convinced everyone to vote Julia"?
Loved the video
I love how the rats and maggots just kinda switched places
Me just laughing after 29:43 because of you can probably guess why because of swap
One little thing i thought would be cool in Dakota's winning ending is that while she in the suit she askes Cam if it has a phone then she calls the paparazzi and they come and start taking pictures and it distracts Zoe with the lights so she runs in.
I'm not sure the logistics or if that would play out but I thought it would be a fun callback to Dakotas more vain self, she can also use the magnet
This was great keep up the great content
dakota and zoey finale is so good i love both of them sm
#JusticeForStaci
44:55 I strongly disagree with how this vote played out. Let me explain (spoilers below the cut)
Okay so, Brick has immunity, Brick and Dakota are working together because they're friends, and Mike and Zoey just made up. Great.
Mike, Dakota, and Brick were all on the same team since the start and think fairly highly of each other. Brick was pretty popular, Mike + his alters did a lot of good stuff in challenges, and admittedly Dakota and Mike didn't interact much but they don't have too much of a reason to dislike each other. Scott was on a team with Zoey this whole game and has been whispering in her ear this whole time, but I still don't think Zoey really trusts him, more that she just feels obligated to help him and listen when he talks. Mike and Zoey the one time they both got to vote voted separately. (Mike for Scott due to several reasons and Zoey for Dakota because she was super uncomfortable about it)
I don't think either Brick or Dakota are strategic enough to coordinate their votes, but they both vote for Scott anyways. Brick actively dislikes him, and Dakota would know this and due to her own biases would definitely not like the "dirty farm boy" and want him out.
Zoey and Mike also don't really vote together, but obviously they're not voting for each other so it's between Dakota and Scott. Mike defineltly votes Scott because all the way back in the third episode of the original, when he had barely interacted with Cameron and literally never talked to Scott bc they were on opposite teams, he tells Zoey, "Be careful. I think Scott's psycho." Mike just does not like or trust Scott and the only way he'd every vote for Dakota (his former teammate) over him is if Zoey asked him to AND he was trying to make something up to her. He does want to make it up to Zoey, but Zoey wouldn't even ask him because she won't directly vote for Scott but she doesn't truly like him, just feels obligated to him.
So Scott just goes here. Unless he goes *really* heavy on the talking to Zoey and Mike part, which could only maybe work.
In terms of what is said in the video, Brick has way more integrity than that. Also, there's no way Dakota would swap her vote off of Scott unless one of the others annoyed her *and* he offered her like a new phone or a down pillow or something. But Brick's vote is certain.
Scott's definitely out in a normal episode.
But here is how he can save himself: Make a new pillow out of the wings he used in this episode. Offer it to Dakota in exchange for her voting Zoey tonight. Dakota accepts because she has internalized misogyny. Talk to Zoey and ask her to get Mike to vote out Dakota with them because he's "Scared that I'm going to go and I don't want that. :'("
Zoey accepts because she barely knows Dakota and also has internalized misogyny. She asks Mike to consider voting for Dakota instead of Scott tonight, and Mike says "Sure Zoey! :)" because he's trying to make things up to Zoey and also is a sucker. Brick is still voting Scott.
The final votes are one for Zoey, one for Scott, and three for Dakota.
Obviously all of this requires Scott to have planning skills and the ability to notice in the first place that both Mike and Dakota are voting for him. Note that he probably still goes next vote because nobody left likes him.
If you read all of this, hey thanks! I really like these guys and have a bunch of thoughts on them. Tell me if you disagree or can think of another way Scott could save himself.
Edit: actually he could probably convince Dakota to vote Mike, and maybe he could order Brick to vote out Mike as well like how Jo ordered him around in the original by taking advantage of his reflex to obey. Heck, he could just command Brick to not vote him out and steamroll his objections, and since Brick never had the moment of regretting not sticking to his code he'd probably listen. And then it doesn't matter who Brick actually votes so long as it isn't Dakota and Scott because the votes would be this
One for Dakota, one for Scott, probably one for Zoey because she wasn't originally on Brick's team, and then two for Mike. Thanks to Scott splitting the vote so much he only needs to directly control Dakota in order to eliminate Mike.
Edit 2: Honestly I was pretty uncharitable when interpreting Dakota's character. She's not that shallow even in canon, and here she's had a fair amount of just hanging out and making real connections so I don't think she'd do anything so petty here. But I still believe Scott could talk her into voting for Mike. Maybe convince her that Mike and Zoey are being too unbreakable and strong of a team by pointing out how they were using the same vehicle today? Or since she talked about screentime a lot earlier in the season he says them being a couple means the cameras will always be focused on them since romance is good for ratings, which wouldn't convince her but it would remind her of Sam or something and how she had to vote him out. I'm not too sure how this would happen since Scott never manipulates Dakota's vote in canon, but he definitely could.
I still like the idea of Cameron being in the finale and competing poorly until the robot thing happens and he wins
Can you do what if Zeeke was in all stars
A true all-star indeed, burning that money.
What if Katie and Sadie were not in the same team, or if Courtney was the first eliminated
What if Beth didn't take the totem from boney Island?
Would be fine if someone makes a fanfic of your What If?
yeah absolutely! the whole point of creating content is for it be something for everyone to enjoy and recreating it into something else would be pretty neat. im not the biggest fan of writing or reading fanfics but anyone is welcome to create one about any of my what ifs
Better than the og.
Could you do one focusing on TDRR next? That would be sick
#FREEB
You can't make Staci 13th again.
One question:
Mike found the key in the garbage after being blackmailed by Scott to do so. Without that blackmail, would he still look in the garbage? I wouldn’t imagine so because he seemed really opposed to it. 🤔
Mike obviously wasn't thrilled to look through the trash but its part of the challenge to look for keys so I would think that he'd still do it because its either that or he doesn't find one at all since everyone else found their keys within a couple minutes. (also if you look at the clip he was more opposed to the fact that Scott was forcing him to not help Zoey)
@@TDWonderer ah, fair fair. I keep forgetting Mike isn’t a clean freak like Dakota or… (wait does Anne Maria care about gross things?). He got puked on by a maggot and he came out of it with little more than an “okay okay, I’m going”. Clearly the boy has a strong stomach. What made me think that he wouldn’t look in the garbage on his own was his “gross, ew ew ew” from the original scene, but with a clearer head and your reasoning, I’ve realised two things:
1. TD crew is inconsistent with characterisation so everything is off the table (must I bring up the dissonance between Chinese Fake-Out and Sundae Muddy Sundae?)
2. Mike has reservations on gross activities, but his motivation to do good trumps that (he be the kinda person to not wanna do the gross thing, but someone is in danger if he doesn’t, so he’ll do it anyway while continuing to say “gross gross gross gross gross” as a form of self-therapy lol me too man)
In short, you are right, Mike WOULD still look in the garbage despite his hesitation. Thank you for your reply, and thank you for making this video! Many people have already said it, but I’ll repeat it: This is better than the original show!
Keep up the great work 👍🏼
I prefer the dakota's ending because i hate commando Zoey it feels like a deus ex machina so well
What if lightning had heather smarts
i thought dawn was BEFORE jo 🤔
huh? can you explain a bit more?
@@TDWonderer nevermind it was on the island dawn made it before jo I thought ROTI team picking was based off of THAT.
Here's a crazy idea : what if samey abused amy and not the other eay around
It’s the exact same, just swapped eliminations.
This time they would be on opposite teams
@@user-tu5zk8nw5j Why would they be on opposite teams?
Shawn grabbed the working parachute, so Amy got the hot dogs
Shawn got the working parachute so Amy got the hot dogs
This what if is better than how the actual season played out.
I'm a little upset that this isn't canon.
Or what if max wasn't evil or what if Shawn wasn't afraid of zombies or what if sky never trained for the Olympics
The problem with all of these what ifs is that those are essential their main quarks, so I think it would make them more boring.
@@havikrogers1801 I'll come up with something else