🇧🇷 African American Couple Reacts "What It Means To Be Black in Brazil"
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One thing that the video didn't show, mostly because it was written from the point of view of an american and how americans see race, is why many of the pardo people (they are not necessarily brown, so the nomenclature really doesn't work) don't identify with the black population: There is no one drop rule. In Brazil the color you look like is how you are perceived (and that opens a whole can of worms in regards to prejudice), and with a largely miscigenated population, things can vary wildly, even in the same household. So, Neymar would probably be considered black in the US, he's not in Brazil, he's pardo. The same way, Vini Jr is black on both countries, but they have very similar family histories. The thing is, since miscigenation is so widespread that in 2 or 3 generations, very few of the more obvious black physical characteristics will remain. Fernando Henrique Cardoso, former Brazilian president was the grandson of an african woman, you can barely tell. The same is true for Yasmin Brunet or Jesus Luz. At the same time, Adriana Lima, who's considered black in the US and maybe because of that considers herself to be black-brazilian, doesn't have any know african-brazilian ancestors - her grandmother, who was alive until very recently was almost 100 years old was about the same skin tone as Adriana is.
As a Brasilian I’m still confused about my race. Because in USA they call me black. But in Brasil white Brasilians will argue and yell at me saying “you’re not black you’re brown !” I grew up knowing black as being very dark and pure Afro features. Brasilians with one parent who isn’t black and one that is aren’t considered black here, and their kids will go on to not be considered black
Here, it isn’t about skin color. It is about lineage. My children are “brown” skinned and my mother have very light skin, yet we are all Black.
I think this is the main difference, in the USA is about lineage, but I Brazil is all about skin color, because of the mix. Like in the same family you will have a son that is white and another is brown.
Like my friend, she has two daughters from the same father, who is brown, one of them is white with kind of blond hair and the other is brown with black and curly hair, so they are blood sisters, but they are not the same race in our system.
And my grandmother is black and my grandfather is indigenous with white skin. So my mother is really white but she has brothers that are brown. And I'm white, my brother too but he has really curly hair.
So in the same family is like you have different race, and in USA is not like this right, they see your father is black so you're black, but here don't, it depends only on your skin colors.
So sometimes we don't now who we are, and sometimes we are not black but we have indigenous features, so we are not white, we are "pardo" who is kind of saying that you're mix and you're like nothing no white, no black, no indigenous, so we kind of don't know sometimes our race.
We can't compare "race-mixing" here in Brasil with the segregated US country!!!
Its totally different!!!
African-Americans are still over 85% Black African ancestry on average...due to laws that prevented ethnic mixing!!!
A mesma parada pelos Brancos Gringos(White Americans) they are 98% Europeans on average after 4 centuries...!!!
That says a lot about ethnic mingling in the US!!!
@@cariocabassa fato , infelizmente nos EUA lhes foram impostas os conceitos das teorias das raças ,e esta barbárie desumana no seio do avaliar humano até hoje desconecta eles (EUA) de refletir sobre o termo ,não percebe que ainda conservam uma imposição tremendamente racista sobre eles, um homem branco sobre o termo determinou uma teoria "a gota de sangue " uma loucura para o olhar científico dos dias atuais, e eles persistem nisso muito embora exista atualmente os recursos da ciência, onde prova que misigenados é um ser humano composto com 2 vertentes ,sendo assim este é branco e negro ou simplificando um mestiço biologicamente se falando, pelo olhar decisivo da ciência contemporânea
@@Mariamcmp The problem is when some people think they know their lineage. I remember when I watched a video about a man from KKK, I think, who took a DNA test, and they showed the result on TV, and guess: he also descends of africans. And the percentage wasn't so small. About 10%, if I'm not wrong. This is the problem. Do people really know their lineage? I don't think so.
Racism does exist in Brazil, but it is important to say that even though it was one of the last countries to end slavery, Brazil was one of the first to integrate blacks into society. In World War II we already had black and white Brazilians serving together in Italy against the Nazis, while the USA still had segregated units.
Integration does not solve racism, economic power does. Integration killed off African American power and unity. there is no reason why a population of over 45 million strong can't employ the majority of their own people. all those businesses died off when they integrated.
Racims is about access to resources and power it's not about if someone likes you or not.
The only thing the white populations in all these former slave colonies did was change a few laws, they did not share the wealth or gave you equal access to gain that wealth. Every law they change they create another system to take away what little progress you've made.
If you have equal access to gaining knowledge, wealth and power of a society like everyone else, does it matter if they like you or not?
With that power, you can buy off politicians who make the laws and let them take care of the people who don't like you. that's what all other groups do. just like the peopel with the (small hats)
I think they wanted freedom and integration in the country and not to be sent to war to die
@@thato596 inclusão que se fala
The end of racism in Brazil was much better and peaceful than in the USA where there was a lot of bloodshed
Blacks in Brazil were never truly integrated into society. They were set free to go where they wanted, but they weren't given any land to live, some had to keep working for the same people they were enslaved by to survive. That's how the favelas became a thing, it was the only place they could build and live since the state didn't care for their existence. Blacks were and still are always marginalized here. Differently than japanese people for example who came to Brazil and were given land. Racism is hidden in Brazil, but is as strong and real as any other country.
I just discovered your channel and I’m so here for all the anthropological conversation.
I’m half Brazilian and half Portuguese and my experience in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil 🇧🇷 where I was born and raised until I moved to America at 17 years old.
My family is mixed: from chocolate all the way to vanilla. In my family we always said: it’s just a matter of how much cream in the coffee or how much coffee in the cream. We celebrated all of our rich history and never divided Black or White chapter. My family celebrates 13 de maio de 1888 as well as all hallmarks of our history. My grandpa is from Bahia - the blackest state in the country. My parents took my sister and me to visit it many times to experience the culture and amazing food. In our family we still cook with clay pots used for centuries in our country. When I came to the US, I was welcomed by the Black community and we realized how much we have in common. One of my friends was actually studying the Brazilian roots of many African Americans. I’m a professional ballerina and worked with Alvin Alley, one of the best African American dance companies. My family always taught us the One Drop rule (shoutout to Bob Nesta Marley). I still don’t feel like I belong in a lot of circles here - Americans, especially white folk, like to put labels on people.I struggled for many years with filling forms about race and ethnicity: being half Portuguese and half Brazilian, I’m European but also Latina but NOT HISPANIC (for the love of god, we don’t speak Spanish in Brasil therefore we’re not Hispanic), I’m proud to be Black and white even though I only got a little coffee in my cream.
Welcome to the family and congratulations on your accomplishments! You were raised in a great family. We love how you all celebrate all of your culture.
Let me give an example about why many people in Brazil doesn't know exactly if they are black or not.
This percentage of black people in Brazil at 24:26, that's said 56% is controversial. Because according to IBGE census (the brazilian institute of statistics) in 2010 the black population was only about 8% (as shown here 14:16) and the white people was the majority with 40% and something and "Pardo/Brown" was 40% and something too. And a new census today would show more Pardo people than whites and, due to more self identification, more black people aswell, but as throughout the history Brazil has always had more whites and pardos/brown, and as miscegenation maybe occured more between brown and white (due to the huge amount of each one) the majority of Pardo has lighter skin, so a lot of people don't consider Pardo and Black as the same thing. The pardo people doesn't suffer the same racism and violence the black people suffers here in Brazil. And also, the Pardo people is not made just of a mix of black and white, but natives too.
In many families of a Pardo person, for example, the last black person you can find is a great-grandmother, so should this pardo person be included in the 56% as being black as the video shows? Even this Pardo person not suffering the same problems as pure black people here suffers, and having a very distant black relative?
So this is one of the things to consider when a brazilian wants to understand if he/she is black of not. Here in Brazil the IBGE calls black people as "Preto", and those who thinks Pardos and Pretos (Blacks) are the same thing, put the Pardos and Pretos inside a group called "Negros".
For you, are these brazilians Pardo or Black? Anita, Neymar, Juliana Paes, Chico Buarque, Adriana Lima. All of them are Pardos, but are they black?
Some people say that calling Pardos and Pretos as Negros is a political way to increase the black population in Brazil, others say that this is to help pardos who also suffer racism. So it's complicated.
And another thing is: The racism in USA was always blatant, there were deliberate government policies to separate black people in the society, while in Brazil after the slavery period, as the video shows, the government itself created this myth of a nation united without racism, so the racism in Brazil is hidden, but it is there, in the roots of brazilian society, and black people feel it everyday, after all Brazil had more time with slavery (300+ years) then without it, so the damage is done and it will need hundreads of years to fix the scars of slavery.
Now unfortunatelly, the majority of poor people in Brazil is black, due to all the historical problems, and poor neighbourhoods has more crimes, and bad education etc. So the structural racism feeds the class problem here and vice versa.
The japanese who came to Brazil also suffered a lot here working in the farms (not in the same way as the african slaves), but nowadays the brazilian japanese in general has a better life than the majority of blacks, and how is this possible? Structural racism.
In the esport scene (game competitions) here you can find many japanese brazilians, but very few black brazilians, even though 8% of brazilians are black and only 1% are asians, so this shows how even nowadays it is hard for a huge amount of black brazilian to have access to a good computer and opportunities.
We are mixed🇧🇷🇧🇷 and we goog just like that...vocês tem que respeitar isso!!!
AS I said we are technically multiethnics mixed...the majority are!!!
Unlike the US where you guys do not mix!!! An Lebanese descent Brasileiro is viewed n perceived as a BRASILEIRO just like a Chinese descent Brasileiro!!!
We are just BRASILEIROS!!!!Só isso!!!
We aint like the US!! So you can miss us with that propaganda!!!
I'm brazilian and was born in a very mixed family, most people in my family will say they are either brown or white but after a lot of self study I can tell that my family have their own issues yet to resolve 😅 my grandfather was for sure black and as an adult I can appreciate the little of tradition he tried to pass to us in the way he could but the topic of race and ancestry is something that was never mentioned unless someone found something about our white ancestors, about those I know a lot😓and who will forget the "nose exercise" grandma taught everyone of us bc otherwise "your potato nose will grow too big and people will think you're ugly"😮💨the generational trauma is real
Waiiiitttt you have to speak more on this potato nose thing.🤔
@@TheDemouchetsREACT She refers to prejudiced people who mock the stereotypes of blacks, resembling the nose, for example, to a potato, the skin of the black nose being flatter.
Race is a very complex topic in Brazil.
Brazil different from US had people mixing for centuries.
Also is nice to understand that “being black” in Brazil now is nicer than was back in the day, it’s like a trend.
Even white people want to be seemed as black, if this make any sense.
Brazil don’t have the biggest black population outside Africa like some people say.
There’s a big population of African Descendants.
Brazilians always has been proud of the mixing that the population had.
But now some people are importing the US race idea, this don’t make any sense in a country without a segregation history like Brazil.
Concordo cara!!
O Brasil é O Brasil!!!
A nossa parada é diferente!!!!
Um fato!!!
Você falou tudo mesmo mano!!!
Sou Carioca/Brasileiro...🇧🇷❤🇧🇷com orgulho!!!
Os Estados Unidos são Os Estados Unidos...com uma história diferente!!! Fato
Sim ,a esquerda importa estes problemas dos EUA para cá, isso é ridículo
@@lourdesmaria9981 Isso não tem nada a ver com esquerda ou direita o "tia bolsonarista". O problema é que o povo de direita é sempre tão racista que qualquer luta de classe ou grupo é visto como algo de esquerda, mesmo que seja algo bem antigo. Você parece aquele tipo que só le o título mas não assiste o vídeo.
@@davidbio1 preconceituoso "tia do zape" kkk Deus me abençoe a viver esta fase 🚺 esta pauta de racismo é nova no brasil kkkkk vai estudar o assunto
Vale lembrar que o zumbi dos palmares era um negro que escravizada outros negros.
I'm Brazilian and my family is a mixed mess, like part Amerindian, part black, part white and whatever else I don't know, so you guys asked how we don't knew we are black, for example i have a more light skin mother, her mother has darker skin almost black, and my father is really black but his mother is completely white, inside my family we never talked about this difference it just existed and we didn't have any traditions especially to celebrate blackness, we learned in school about slavery and descrimination but we never associate it whit ourselves, is just "things of the past" as we were told
Fato
What we have always had was prejudice against the poor, but there has never been institutionalized racism in Brazil, like in the USA and South Africa. Today we are all Brazilians and we have always had notable black people since the beginning of our formation as a people.
In Brasil we study slave, indigens and their history , we have a class where is just about the things that happened in the beging of the country, my father is pardo with afro hair, my mother is italian, i born mix with skin white and hair blonde but curly, but my body and some aspects are from negro people, i was bullied a lot because i have big brown eyes and called names and saying things about my hair being curly, but every brasilian knows in pre school about races, diferences especially now. I am just see me as a white people because of my color but i have proud of the culture african and italian(both slaves in Brasil)
I´m brazilian and love the fact that y'all reacted to this video, because racism in Brazil is a BIG problem and it´s different than other countries in the Atlantic. Jut because they hide it, it don´t mean thai it dont exist, and just because of miscigenation, it ont mean that we are not killed everyday. Unfortunately, we, as a majority poor community, dont have the acess to media outlets, and the State do a lot to cover things up, but please, look for the braziliam news, you will see how many massacres black brazilian have gone through. The whitening took the anger and the identity from us. A lot of black brazilians have gone to interpersonal and systemical racism all of their life, but are thought to think that is just a class issue or is madness.
Wow🥹 We truly had no idea. Miscegenation just to survive could bring even more trauma within families who do not accept one or the other race. Geez🙏🏾❤️
@@TheDemouchetsREACT yes!! But the primarly problem it´s the brazilian estate and the white brazilian elite. Since there´s so much of us down here, they know that the whitening didn´t fully worked and make everything so we don´t have access to the basics and use the police to continue the genocide.
We heard great things about Brazil before this. 🥹We’re going into a deep dive of research this week to understand more (just personal research, not videos). Now the reaction requests makes sense.
I was born in 2000 and only at the age of 18 did I understand that I am an Afro-Indigenous woman. at age 20 I discovered my 4th afro hair. but even today I go through issues of being "too white" to be black and too black to be white. the erasure of historical records erased my history together, today it is almost impossible to know where my ancestors came from.
The "I started to realize I I'm black" is a thing that mostly just brazilians can relate to. That's because we're probably the most mixed people in the world. It's kinda rare to meet someone who is not mixed. Put that together with all the subtle racism and the erasure of blackness, you can imagine how a lot of people don't perceive themselves as black. In here it's like a complete palette of shades and people try to figure out where do they fit in there (or where do they fit DEPENDING of the social interaction). Take me for example. I'm a complete mix (indigenous, portuguese, italian, black, ginger, probably someone from another planet). In USA people call me brown (I'm usually mistaken as arab, mexican, or indian) or hispanic (I'm brazilian so I'm NOT hispanic) but in Brazil people call me white. Some think I'm just a super tanned white person. In here I live white privilege and would never be spoted as a "person of color" (this concept doesn't make much sense here), what is totally different from what I experienced in USA when I was there. BTW, most asian also have access to white privilege in here. Racism is most common towards black people.
brazil is a mix of races than any other country that's for sure (we usually don't identify ourselves only as black or white but black,brow,white etc..)but at the same time we can see very clear that the top of the brazilian society who get the best opportunities,jobs,schools, etc...are most white skin not all but most (i call them the brazilian europeans) because their foreparents are all from european countries in general.however,regardless this class divide color of skin exists there's something amazing about brazil we simply try to forget our problems by dancing,eating,celebrating
having fun etc... regardless either the color of skin or financial class (sure the problem exist )but we brazilians have something special in order to celebrate life regardless its toughness
One of the things Americans need to understand is in this
country you race first nationality second. If you ask someone in Brazil what they are ? They are going to respond with the city, region etc that doesn’t mean they don’t have pride in their Blackness. Also in Brazil it was never illegal to marry outside one’s race like in the US hence you have so many different shades. Most of our white people aren’t white white. In my family we have White, Indigenous and Black. It’s not uncommon to see darker skinned Brazilian with 4B hair and lighter eyes due to all of the mixing. My mom is bi racial and in the 60’s she used to straighten her hair and looked more Indigenous like my great grandmother. The issue in Brazil isn’t just race but classism. The country only been a democracy for about 40 years and the Blacks while being the majority don’t have the economic power but things have gotten much better having just returned from Brazil. There are more Black people on tv via vie journalists, & in advertisement. There is still a long way to go and it starts with government not being corrupt but there has been progress
I am Brazilian. I recognized myself as black early on, when I felt racism and different treatment in childhood, I went through the phase of hating my hair and skin. And only later did I understand what this culture was about and who I was, so I started to recognize myself as black and only later did I start to accept myself as a black woman.
My grandparents, father, uncles and aunts still try to avoid their own ethnicity, criticize their curly hair and classify it as "bad", straighten it. Because that's what you've heard your whole life and incorporated. The racism they lived and live through is buried and minimized to continue to survive. It's like a big elephant in the room that nobody talks about and most ignore.
As a Black woman in the U.S., I can’t even begin to imagine what you went through. I’m glad you’ve found acceptance in who you are. Though it is just skin, it comes with a story that deserves to be told with how you live your life.
I got emotional with your reaction!
the problem here is much worse, because in addition to having people who deny that racism exists, miscegenation is enormous. I, for example, am white as paper and have black uncles. Being white, I often have better opportunities than my uncles, which is very unfair. my family is a complete mix and there are people who have the audacity to say that here in Brazil racism does not exist
This is sad to hear, fam. We truly hope positive change is near for your family and the entire country.
Love the video, didn't know this was happening in Southern America Brazil
oh we still have plantations as museums, we have few ones here in Rio de Janeiro stade
No Brasil raça é um assunto complexo, existem muitos casos de brasileiros que vão pra Europa e apenas la descobrem que não são Brancos, acho que a revolução vai acontecer quando a população em geral entender sua posição social, notar que não necessariamente são negros, mas que não são mesmo brancos, quando houver esse esclarecimento as coisas mudam, a verdade é que varias etnias europeias foram incentivadas a vir ao Brasil num plano de embranquecer a população, o que não deu certo, mas criou essa distorção e confusão na auto-identidade do brasileiro
Pra você entenderem eu ja fiz um teste genético e nele meu dna tem Europa ocidental(Alemanha,frança), norte da África(Argélia,Tunísia e Marrocos), oeste da África(Angola, africa do sul,Namíbia,camarões e gabão), chifre da África(Etiópia e Somália, indígenas da América central, América andina e brasileiros, e um pouco de judeu
@@011_jhonata isto é Brasil kkk uma outra raça que surgiu abaixo da linha do Equador kk
@@011_jhonata Nesses testes o que mais mostra nem seria de quantos países, mas sim as regiões e populações dessa região. No caso da Africa, o norte é diferente da Africa subsaariana, já que o norte são árabes e a subsaariana são negros. Já a referencia da América são todos indígenas e da Europa brancos. Quando se coloca vários países fica parecendo realmente confuso devido às fronteiras imaginárias que criamos, mas quando se pensa em algo concreto, ou seja, as populações, vemos que não é tão confuso assim. É basicamente brancos, árabes, negros, indígenas, e no caso um pouco de judeus, que tem a mesma origem dos árabes por sinal. Só faltou asiáticos pra completar o mundo rss.
I've just discovered this channel. I'm Brazilian and my family is mixed, I don't know much about my parents' family history, but I do know that my father is the son of a black woman and he didn't know his father. My mother says she's the granddaughter of indigenous and white people and here at home the subject of race has never been discussed. My mother used to tell me to straighten my hair to look like hers, my hair was always made fun of when I went to school and for many years I was ashamed of my hair (today I love it) I always felt strange because I didn't feel black enough to be called black or white enough to be called white, and I only realized I was black when I was 20 (I'm almost 24 today) and after some horrible events my father also realized he was a black man after 50 years, but even so racism is very present here, sometimes in words that seem innocent but we know it hurts us a lot. I dream that one day this will all change and we can live in peace. 🇧🇷
just watch the movie BACURAU, theres a scene with white Brazilians saying to Europeans: we are the same as u , and their reaction is hilarious, amazing Brazilian movie, earned some awards jn Cannes
I think they are from US. Just one is from Germany and he suffer a kind of "racism" by the Americans because he live in USA but he wasn't born there. It's so weird this scene, but quite interesting too.
Don't look at the absolute numbers. Look at the percentage of the population. Only 8% is black. They are still a minority in Brazil. In the Caribbean, when everyone around you is black, being black is not a thing. Over 90% is black. You don't think about it. Your identity is everyone else's identity. So feeling a sense of identity is not an issue. Then you get to just be.
The issue of black self-awareness is not just about identification, it's because Brazil, despite not undergoing explicit racial segregation like Jim Crow, has still experienced racial separation that fuels many of today's problems related to racism and classism, hindering black people from achieving better lives. When you are "Pardo" (not the same as Brown, as Brown individuals are also a concept in the U.S. for black people with lighter skin, - Pardo is not just individuals with light skin among black people; in Brazil, miscegenation has taken a step further due to various European invasions and immigration of people fleeing wars. Pardos are the result of a process involving both colonial r*pe, whitening, and the mixing of marginalized races), you DO face racism, along with occasional classism, given that a significant portion of the low-income population is also black and "Pardo." You are part of statistics like higher illiteracy rates, one of the largest incarcerated populations globally, and a higher number living in peripheral areas (the Favelas), and so on.
However, for many years, Brazilians didn't recognize this as racism or its byproduct. After slavery, there was a deliberate effort to erase the history of black and indigenous people from our country, forcing us to believe in a nation free from ethnic-racial prejudice. The resurgence of racial consciousness aims to reclaim the history of indigenous peoples (original peoples) and recognize how racism operates post-slavery: systematically. It is to acknowledge the microaggressions that exist here, whether you are Black or "Pardo" (Negro). And it's a call to fight against them.
In Brazil, there is racism and a lot of it, in the past to change the understanding that people are black, different terms were created, such as pardo, mulatto, among several others, so that people would not recognize themselves as black, this has been changing but they still exist
Nada a ver! Cada termo tem seu significado!
Um vira lata de indio com japones também é pardo... isso o torna negro, retardado!?
@@thyagomaciel341 é mesmo ,concordo com você, aos contraditórios digo que o Brasil também tem muitos manipulados por estes movimentos de políticas importadas dos EUA isso sim , pois pardo é pardo e negro ou branco é outra coisa, biologicamente se falando não existe um outro termo de definição
Sugiro a leitura do livro "Escravidão", do Laurentino Gomes. São três volumes. É bom pra entender como foi o processo no Brasil.
I'm a dark-skinned black Brazilian and i disagree that black and brown suffer the same, most of us may live in the same condition but brown people don't have the barrier of opportunities that the black people has. Racism in Brazil is color-based, the lighter you are the less or nothing you suffer. If you are brown and have straight hair you can pass as white completely, there is no one-drop rule here.
Say that Brazil has a majority of black peaple or 56% of Brazilians are black is a lie and a completely misurdentending of the data. For me it's also a form of racism, but left-winged.
pardos sofrem racismo sistemáticos e isso é impossível de ignorar. é claro que pessoas retintas e pardos não enfrentam a mesma coisa, mas o pardo tem sua história constituída também por conta de violência racial e hoje enfrentam resultado disso. ainda são a maioria nas favelas, na população pobre, constituem grande parte dos que mais sofreram com o êxodo rural, a maior parte de analfabetos, a maior parte de pessoas assassinadas pela polícia. Mas por que você tu alisa o cabelo tu é automaticamente branca? A pessoa já tem que ter um corpo sem nenhum tipo de traço africano pra ter um white passing assim, ou então ser de interesse da Elite o colocar como tal, como já vimos muitas vezes brancos colocarem figuras negras históricas como brancas. Pessoas pardas não é só ter pele mais clara kkkkk e isso sim é conceito do EUA, o tal light skin.
O verdadeiro ponto é Brasil e os EUA tiveram histórias bem diferentes so racismo. Porém de fato qual vcs consideram mais racismo o Brasil ou os EUA. Porque quem viveu a vida toda no brasil sendo pardo pode muito bem não sofrer racismo porem nos EUA ele sofre.
I have never saw a single museun about slavery in Brazil
16:07 Abdias Assis um gênio, nunca vou esquecer um trabalho que fiz dele
Well, from the point of view of someone who is graduated in biology I see something like this. Europeans are Africans who got white. Just that. We share approximately 99,9% of our DNA and humans emerged in Africa, but what matters is just the recent history. Because this, we become so attached to external characteristics that represent a very small part of our DNA. And this, unfortunately, shaped the human history.
It's challenging to determine your own race in Brazil due to the extensive mixing of backgrounds. Personally, I'm mixed of Black, Indigenous, Italian, and Portuguese ancestry, creating a diverse genetic heritage. Some of my cousins are black, some are white, some are more indigenous and so on. People in Brazil exhibit a wide range of appearances; some, like me, may appear more White, while others may appear more Black. Even famous Brazilians, like Neguinho da Beija-Flor, revealed surprising DNA test results in 2007, showing that he have more European genes than African. (And he's a well known black Brazilian singer) Considering this, it's difficult to visually determine someone's roots accurately and that's one of the reasons why so many people understand their race later in life. I am considering a DNA test to gain a clearer understanding of my own heritage, for example.
This happened a lot. DNA tests is always a surprise for a lot of people. The same happened to Diana dos Santos. What is interesting in these tests is not exactly the ancestry you have, but the percentage. If you do a test to every people in the world and consider an old lineage you will see that everybody is from Africa, but these tests usually consider a more recent lineage, and it's when the surprise happens, like the examples we gave here. In Brazil there are a lot of European DNA, even in black community. This makes everyone get confuse.
Is really Sad and true that a big part of Black people, dont see themselves as Black..
When I was in School, the teacher uses tô say that I'm not Black.. (as if was a bad Thing) they Will be like: "dont say that.. youre not Black.. you must say that you are Pardo (Brown)
I'm seeing a Lot of chances theses days.. but we, the ones who born in th 90's have seen This a Lot
A verdade é que os brasileiros tem pensamento sempre muito livre! E não faz nenhum sentudo a luta de Negros ou algo do tipo aqui! O Brasil é complexo demais para isso! As políticas e as abordagens do racismo estrutural no Brasil deve ser criados e feitos especialmente para o Brasil! Primeiro que muitos de nós não concordamos em chamar as pessoas de Afrodescendente umas que são partes integrantes da sociedade brasileira, por tanto, é uma forma de dividir a sociedade
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Here's the thing, EVERY country have a racist history, so personally that doesn't bother me as you cannot escape it. However, the current state of Brazil... visiting is an absolute no for me. Imagine going to a country thinking you're going to avoid racism by not engaging ⚪ people only to realize mofos that look like you are the racist ones, too! Brazil is no different from the Dominican Republic which is why I have no interest in visiting either country. As a traveler who lived abroad for years, the ppl I know personally that visited experiences varied and the ones who had guides didn't have any issues but those who didn't 🤦🏾♀️
Tem valor, tem verdades porém o mimimi é evidenciado nesse doc
During Slavery we had a lot of prominent Brack people in society, but historically they were treated as being white. Several of our best writers, sculptors, singers, singers, lawyers, and politicians were found to be black only after the end of the military dictatorship in Brazil. After slavery blacks were completely desinfranchised, and no one really understood that as a problem until about 50 years ago... it was kind of common to marry white to improve your means(gens). Lastly, runaway slaves in Brazil would concentrate on a area, and declare it an independent country, and it was common to see slavery on this Quilombos of black against black. This quilombos were desimated the same way that Neatherland, Franch, Portuguese invaders were... so brasilians believe that blackness had nothing to do with those massacres. It is just odd... Neymar just understood that he was black, after the British trew bananas at him... because in Brasil he was a white man. To combat racism in Brasil, Brasilians have to accept that racism is a problem first, and most of the population descend of Blacks... that realization only happens for the few people that go to a GOOD university.
There’s never been an enlightenment period with Brazil. No Harlem renaissance period of them. No being just being in their blackness. Maybe in the last 5, 10, 15 years there’s been more of a steady resurgence that seems to be here to stay. So maybe we’ll see a full turnaround. In the end, this is just proved how treacherous the Portuguese really was deny, ignore reality. Similar to when white parents adopt black kids, but tell them they don’t see color especially back in the day cut the hair off because they don’t know how to do it trying to buy other white people so they don’t have any black friends that essentially is Brazil or boys and they go off to college and then finally have a black best friend.
It has more to do with North-American cultural imperialism. Imposing their own Anglo-Saxon racialist reality in other countries. North Americans are treacherous
You have a point. I don’t know where we would be without the footpath of the Harlem Renaissance period. There is hope.🙏🏾
I'm Jamaican and the difference between African Americans and us in the Caribbean is that we had at least 100 years to decompress and try to find an identity after slavery.
I think AA are slowly finding themselves, it just takes time. we didn't have to deal with the constant terrorism after slavery becasue 90% of the white people left those Islands.
that's one of the major hurdles, serious PTSD living behind enemy lines. Brazil is just a messed up country, I think they have over 20 classifications within the Black population, classic divide and conquer.
You made a good point, but I believe we began finding our new identity in the 1920’s (African Americans) with The Harlem Renaissance Movement. Their stories in this video was definitely an eye opener, but there is hope.🙏🏾❤️
But it is hard to put all Pardo people inside the same group as blacks. Brazil is super mixed, white, black, natives, arabs, asians. A lot of pardo people doesn't even look black, other looks a lot. Many pardos never suffered racism and nevel will, but others suffered.
For you, are these brazilians Pardo or Black? Anitta, Neymar, Juliana Paes, Chico Buarque, Adriana Lima. All of them are Pardos, but are they black?
Some people say that calling Pardos and Pretos as Negros is a political way to increase the black population in Brazil, others say that this is to help pardos who also suffer racism. So it's complicated.
Actuelly, we don´t, brother. Like, decades ago, when the government asked the population how people self describe, they had hundreds of answers. But was a long time ago, in a Brazil that black people dind´t had access to the basics and we where ignorant. Today, we have two classifications to people of african descent: pardo (wich can mixed with white or indigenous or both) and preto(people that are darkskinned). But yes, I agree, and we are a messed up country. Incredible, but messed up
@@FallenLight0 True...
Us Pardos are African descendants but we’re not Black.
The Black movement put everybody under the Black label because it’s better to the movement, but when they get mad they say we’re not Black.
So some people need to find acceptance from them or just said it how it is.
There’s a lot of cases of Pardos who consider themselves as Black being treated as a joke by Black people.
My girlfriend and I had a child, my kid is the same color as me not black and not white, somewhere in the middle.
His mother is black.
He’s light-skin with curly brown hair.
When he was fresh out of the hospital he was white, I mean pale...
People was looking side eye to her with him in her arms.
How I’m gonna say he’s black?
I’m proud of my African roots, but to say I’m just black as my mother or my uncles is crazy to me.
Não somos bagunçados, somos o que somos, identidade complexa e exclusiva.
Os efeitos da escravidão no Brasil, sao sentidos socialmente quando vc vai ao teatro por exemplo. Conte quantos negros tem na plateia. Quase nenhum.
But that is changing
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listen racionais mcs and maybe you guys will understand better.
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It's the same scenario in the USA. The ratio & stats are similar except in afro Brazilian education system. The more South you go in Brazil the more avowed orthodox racism exists.
12:18 smh.
It is simple... on the beggining of 1900, the first black Brasilian president was white untill about 20 years ago. Same happened with the best abolitionist poet (Castro Alvez), the best sculptor on the 1700 (Alejadinho). If you became successful and prominente, automatically you became white. Not to mention that most of the National records of slavery were burned
Brazil is most violents places in the world!
The girl don't realize she was black not just because we identify as brazilian, here they invented the "new race" they call "pardos" that is basically black people with lighter skin. Pardo is literally the PAPER COLOR. My mom have "parda" in her documents. She is black as the night! Blacks and Pardos are more the 55% of the population. This is a way to say that here is not a black country. We are the majority. Brazil is a black country.
Talking about me, I realize I was black in Europe. Before that I never saw myself as a black woman. Everybody tolds me that I was "parda". And I believed.
Is 2023, this is the first year that my mom say to the "censors" that she was black. She is 69 years old.
Power to your mom!❤️
Y’all are definitely teaching us something new. Now we understand why some do not consider themselves Black. We will look into this “new race” to understand more.
Why don't you tell them that pardo was first used to describe our indigenous population? And that pardo also includes people who only gave European and Indigenous ancestry only. We pardos have the right to Identify as mixed and you don't have the right to force us to be black.
You are not the majority, you're barely 9% of the population, and that's not a problem, it is a multiracial country. Brazil is a mixed country, not a solely black one. I've been to Texas, Portugal and Argentina, no one saw me as black in those places, I'm pardo.
Você é Parda como a maioria dos Brasileiros...
A gente não tem que fazer como os Gringos fato!!
Pardo é pardo, e Negro é negro, coloca um pardo perto de um Nigéria, ou angolano e você vai ver a diferença, são raças diferentes, e cabo.
Na Europa "um Pardo" é "um Pardo" também...as pessoas aí sabem muito bem o negócio do "Pardo...miscigenado...mulatto..." claro que eles (Os Europeus) sabem...