Drumchapel-The Frustration Game (1989)
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- čas přidán 1. 12. 2012
- (NOTE: there is sound/ a voice-over though it comes in after a few minutes, have patience lol) Was shocked not to have found this already on CZcams. A piece of social history for some, and for some still their living day-to-day reality, this could have been made in any housing scheme in the 1980's such was the prevalence of the social decay at that time. Produced by the production company De-Classed Elements 1989.. and uploaded under the Creative Commons License: Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0.
My family moved to Drumchapel from Maryhill back in 1954. We lived at 71 Achamore Rd. until 1956 when we emigrated to Canada. I really enjoyed my childhood years in the Drum and still think of the good times I had back then. I went back to Scotland a few years ago and was really astonished at the changes. The old tenement was gone and it just all looked so strange but still recognizable.
The place we lived at in Maryhill was really rundown and it's a shame that the housing in the Drum didn't last very long but we didn't know at the time that the quality level of the construction was very poor.
Well said Marc I never hide the fact I was brought up in Drumchapel great memories
I grew up in Drumchapel from 1955 and have happy memories of that time . My parents and neighbours were so house proud and I wasn't allowed out until the brass name plate on the door was shining and stairs were washed and clean (when it was our turn) I was married in St Pius and my parents lived there until they died.
Sad to say some people don't care how they live and have no pride in themselves. Just looking at this you can see the smartly dressed ladies walking around. The ones that have pride in themselves and I'm sure their homes. I'm saddened by this video but it hasn't changed my good memories of Cally Avenue and people who lived there.
I remember those days, the total hopelessness’. After a while, people got immune but it’s a sad reflection on our society. Makes you almost embarrassed to be Scottish.
meanwhile billions of pounds worth of oil and gas was getting extracted from Scottish seas and the money going to the British government and being squandered
You talk about reality my upbringing was very real my friend ,aye there are people from schemes that will undoubtedly be drawn to crime and a life of criminality but surely not the majority , look at the successful people who come fae the drum ,I'll say my glass is always half full as I've said before stayed there 35 years made me who I am today look at the positives my friend
Successful? What, Billy Connolly? He's a dick.
i grew up in Castlemilk in the 70s so know exactly what this is all about.
Housing schemes in the middle of nowhere with no recreational facilities for kids .
@Old school Pete I grew up in Drumchapel and we had a sports center and rec club. Swimming baths and bowling green as well. It was a happy childhood.....mostly lol
lived in drumchapel from 1954 till 1966. When we moved there from dalmarnock the house was new with a inside bathroom as a 12 year old it was a great move. When I think back the people were happy and most of the people were working. when I left the drum in 1966 it had changed and was not a safe place at night getting home on the late bus you had to watch who was around. I had only moved out of my parents house a few weeks and it was broken into lucky we had a big dog and i t chased them out After that my parents moved away as being older they did not feel safe. When I lived there jobs were to be had and all my friends worked. Now when I see the what the place looks like I feel sorry for the people who have to live there if you have no hope I cannot imagine how that must have felt I live in Canada now and have shown the video to my sons they thought it was a third world country and not Scotland as they had been there on holiday but I never saw poverty like that
I unfortunately lived in Sunnybank St till i was 17 in 2000
Place was a bearpit
Watched this hoping to see my 11 year old self or some old faces passing by. Must admit I have mostly good memories of the Drum back then in Cally Ave but it was more the people around me than the setting. Part of me is sad that alot of it doesnt exist anymore so I can show my son what it was like, cheers for the upload my friend.
I was 12 when this was made. I lived there until I was 20. It was exactly how this video shows. Actually quite upsetting to see.
Yep it is hard to see this type of thing again, but powerful. The saddest part is how eloquent the working class was compared to now.
Glaswegians got a raw deal with housing, met some great people in drumchapel hopefully Glasgow can learn from the mistakes from the 1950s and 1960s people demand aminities shops and employment and good housing stock
Things must be bad if moving back to maryhill was better .
Looool
I grew up in the drum,Rayne pl,The Hull, Linkwood flats, Invercanny,
to be fair i went skiing, canoeing, sailing, etc every week, i would play in the woods at Summerhill, make a tree swing hit the froggy and raid a local apple tree,
There was a fair few idiots about protecting there street lol, but you get quick or deal with it, i had a happy childhood and thought the poverty was normal, a lot more good folk in the Drum than bad, enjoyed the vid....Thank you
It's a shithole.
I lived in rayne place just before it was demolished. Number 6 I believe
20 years in the Drum. It gave me an education, my first job and pals for life. I still have family in the area. It would be interesting to see a 2019 update film. This video was a perfect representation of its time.
Grew up in a top flat in blackcraig remember it all. But wouldn’t have changed Drumchapel it was a great place and still is to this day!
My mum and her family grew up there in the 60s and 70s
This film was made by my uncle John Calder who helped run Camus Place Centre which coincidentally was my first primary school in Drumchapel, the voice over is my Auntie Jean Johns wife, like a lot of people then and all families we knew where we lived and under what cicumstances, my Aunt and Uncle felt compelled to comment and try to raise awareness but Authority never sees or hears past the perimeter of their quiet genteel suburban cosiness unless its to impose the latest ideas they have on urban reform...give the children concrete hippos and they will coform and grow up to be model concrete citizens.....I at 56 still despair, but I will still tell people truthfully about my beginings in Drumchapel its part of who I am and will always be, however it is to the individual to choose to be kind.
Did your auntie and uncle stay in rozzele Avenue mate
@@andrewgalbraithgalbraith4915 aye we did - number 5 mate
loads of great points made, similar problems still exist in 2012, especially in regards to false hope in employment, but at least the housing situation has improved dramatically.
Born and raised in Drumchapel. Left when I was 27 to live in Australia. Im 34 now. Lived in Rayne Place (now demolished), ledmore and up the hill
The tragedy of this is that its not the only area of its kind in Glasgow or Scotland or any other UK city. Get an education & a bus out of Glasgow asap, must be the British Army's biggest recruitment source, apart from all those nice officer boys from Kelvinside of course.
Amazing what you once thought was normal and aspiration was getting your own flat!!
Oh God ! 👀👀 Once Upon A Time ☯️💟🕉 Don’t forget to Remember I remember when the Drum 🥁 was Brand New. My Relatives moved there from Patrick. Now everybody wants to live in Patrick. I live in Bath, Somerset.
my sister stayed in fozwell in 1987 only a week in the street and an irish guy got murderd in her close,iam not slagging the drum as am from c/bank but that place was a different world every street corner up the hill was full of glue sniffers .
I grew up in Drumchapel from the day I left the hospital in 1980, and lived there till 2012. I had a great childhood there and I'm still quite fond of the place.
A while back my brother posted this video on Facebook I took a quick look at it and didn't really think much. However, today, I decided I'd watch it all the way through. It's hard to believe I would have been 9 when this was made and thought nothing about living in the surroundings shown.
Pete and John, what was this made for, was it for, where was it shown?
You must have a thing for shitholes?
I grew up in ladyloan right up the hill in the 80s and 90s and it was the pits, there were good people but the conditions were a disgrace the mould right up the walls has probably took 10 years off my life. Im still on achamore to this day the houses may have changed but the social and economic problems remain.
After all that and you're still there? Poor state of affairs.
@freeheadmess..thanks for your comment, was up the Drum recently, first time in a good while, taking a wee look at the places I used to kick about, its nothing like what it used to be, housing-wise, but aye I thought there still looked to be an awful lot more needed to be done. Investment and jobs, the usual. I loved my time in Drumchapel, but was sad to see that where i lived, in the film, was pulled down to make way for a family of sorry-looking rhinoceres lol all the best to you freeheadmess
If you go into u tube and select Drumchapel The Frustration Game there is an original copy with music
The music on this video was stripped out by persons or organisation unknown. Copies of with the background music are available.
maybe in theory we all have the same choices in life, but in the midst of living there are endless factors that work to make all our experiences individual. Schemes can be like open prisons, some people cannot survive without falling into criminality, this is not the same for everyone but all too often housing schemes work to criminalise communities that have no other means except to go outside the law. Its not an excuse, merely a statement of the reality of things as they sometimes stand.
Ah the memories.
Man I grew up in kinclaven. This video was incredible.
Brilliant narration!
Resist & Survive!
Some one should tell her that " yie fuckin bastard" is a term of endearment.
I am unable to upload a full vrsion of this video complete with background music...any ideas how it can be done
Ye still supporting thistle 😂😂😂
I was 8 years old when this was made....so I wasnt the only one that was poor growing up
hello there, wasnt making any comment on you or your upbringing/life in any way, I am same as you..a half full type of guy, had a tough upbringing but it never stole my optimism or positivity..I think the curse of text-reading has befallen us and we are both reading each other wrong lol apologies to you if you thought I was having a dig at you
This was made 20 years after we left drumchapel to move to England
@stephen mcaleese yea we moved to Blackburn England 1969
What a resource. Who narrated for it? Any of the people behind it still living in Drumchapel?
It was narrated buy my Auntie Jean Calder, it was filmed by John Calder my Uncle.
God!! I ment Partick. 😤🤬🧡Numpty 🤪
Hi Jenny As one of the producers of this video I can inform you that the narration was done by a mother of two children who lived in Drumchapel for the bigger part of her life. The resource De-classed Elements eventually bit the dust as the local authorities refused to recognise it as it also functioned as a print workshop for organisations outwith the municipal norm...Red Action, Kurdish resistance and many other local organisations. All f the contributors are still living.
It looks so depressing
Sad😔😔😔
"The best it will ever be" ....clearly no hope for improvement!
Hey there, I've only ever came across this version, so nope, not a scooby,
This is what the "Union" brought us.
And they have the cheek to expect us to stay with them.
@@lukemackenzie2944 Please enlighten us with your reasons on why Scotland would become a nation of thriving communities if independence was to be achieved?
Oh, aye, SNP being absolute housing entrepreneurs of the highest order. Reality is often disappointing & this is where SNP thrive by encouraging us to hate anything English & blaming all our woes onto them. Big bad tories did it & ran away ad infinitum, isn't it?
cheery cow her eh ?
At least she's honest.
City of culture 1990? Some contradiction that and I wonder what all those tourists must've thought if they had ventured out to this charming plot of land instead of wandering around George Square, which even today is nothing special but what a fright they would've got if Drumchapel and those other hellholes Easterhouse, Pollok and Castlemilk had been on the travel brochure. The council must be praised for keeping their shameful past hidden from the wary eyes of the foreign travellers otherwise no one would ever come here. Sick bags on planes? You had better keep them for when you land in Glasgow and a few spare if you visit the schemes.
Not much changed in 2020
Overspills gang bangers 🆘 🪃 💥
encore 🙏
lol i lived there then it wasnt all bad. although i live in south east now so says a lot
It's a mess again needs rebuilt same way most of glasgow nae harm an a wee doobie or 2 sells legal other country's that heroin and they other stuff is non acceptable
It was and still is a filthy hellhole that should never have been built. I'm ashamed that I once drove buses through it from 2008-2015. Horrible memories.
You're ashamed you drove buses through Drumchapel. You're ashamed? What are you ashamed of? What a complete and utter moronic comment to make!
@@kirsteenrose993 Oh, hurt your feelings did I? You're right, why should I be ashamed just cause I drove buses through It? In thinking about your comment I'm actually proud that I drove buses through it for 7 years and survived. If you were brought up in it and still live in it then you should be ashamed.
Your awank
Man, someone from the Drum must really have got under your skin and hurt you. Who was she mate? 😂
@@johnmcewan4444 If you're going to try and insult me then at least learn to fuckin spell properly.