How to make a reliable RB - basic to 10K RPM 1000 hp
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- čas přidán 23. 10. 2018
- Meet Jake Jones, the Drift Squid, and his crazy RB engines! He is one of the few people that have take the RB engine to the ends of the earth in the drifting community, seldom do you see a modern BMW with a 10k RPM 1000 hp Nissan inline six. So grab a drink and watch a laid back description of what makes the RB26DETT, RB25DET, platforms a decent choice from the normal old 1ZJ and 2ZJ swaps we see so often.
Please head over to his channel to check out his Nissan and BMW projects.
/ driftsquid - Auta a dopravní prostředky
There's many advantages in having that thing rip to 10k rpms besides noise. It gives him so much more rev range to work with like not having to grab a higher gear in some situations. And damn yes it sings a fine tune up there mate. Incredible work all round
Jake is such a nice guy, on video and in person. He definitely deserves much more exposure for all his efforts. Especially to get sponsors to make his FD program happen. Best of luck Jake, keep it up!
These type of series are cool. Keep going into detail with your rb’s. This type of knowledge spread out is what we need. Speaking from experience is what I like to see!
What engine would you like to see us chat about next?
Jake is right we do need more rb enthusiasts here in the states because it's mostly played out v8s/jz setups. #needmorerbs
Am 16 in high school I'm currently working on an rb 26 240sx hatch lol I was thinking of starting a channel but I kinda want to keep it a secret for a little longer
one reason why not many have them besides the price...purist snobs....
They're just way too expensive in the states
One of the most down to earth drifters out there. Total respect. 👍
Yeaaa squid!!! He isnt lying, saw the RBM3 two weeks ago (for the 3rd time) and she bloody sings!!! :D
Rb for life
Makes me so happy to see more Aussie content on this channel, even a bit of QR in there too!
Can’t wait for the Lone Star/DCA mashup when they give away holidays to each other’s events
We already did give them away, the drivers just have to go on the trips lol!
I Haven't touched the oil system on my rb25 and been giving it DEATH on the limiter for 5 years with no issues. #bestsoundingstraight6
They can fail from bad harmonics or excessive crank end play from worn thrust bearings/crank. All it takes is a bad harmonic balancer or high miles/insufficent oil changes. It doesnt happen to every rb. Also I doubt your rev limit isnt 10k.
big difference from 7500 to 10000,
S54 would like a word
Yeah there are a lot of cases where some RB engines are total freaks. But to make sure you never come across any issues, do what ive done and you can beat on them all day long no matter what.
@@DriftSquid yea I plan to do that with my rb26 so that's why I don't mind giving my 25 death lol. Great vid Jake.
Thank you!! Cant wait to make my RB bullet proof.
Building an rb26 kinda just like that just bigger turbo. Street and drag weapon. Good job dude
hell yer another jake jones video on lonestar! love the videos guya
He really does reply to comments so hit him up for real!
Oh god, thank so much Jake! I am currently rebuilding my CA18DET (S13 200sx) and as they have the same head/oil problems as the RBs, i was already planning to do the head mod, larger sump and the sump trap doors for the same reasons you mentioned, and also you just confirmed that my theorical study of the issue is working in real life in your cars! Although the CA18 wont be making 1000hp but reliability is king for me, so i wont have problem trashing it and learning to drift much faster and with lots of fun. Again, thank you so much! Cheers from Portugal
No stress at all. Thank Aaron from Lone Star for the idea of making this video. All the best with the CA build, they are an awesome sounding engine at 8000RPM, I wish i had footage of my old one.
Adam LZ might want to take some notes so he doesn't have a repeat SR
Hes got bigger worries
Kiran Patel yeah because Nicole cheated on him
Nic how do you no that?
Adam lz ain't on this guys level, but yeah he could definitely learn some life lessons on building & driving drift cars
Awesome! I love the squid
I love this video. I built a RB30/26 for my Skyline and it's good to see others success. I like comparing my build to other, especially ones like this that's being pushed to the limit. This is R&D at its best.
Awesome stuff bro, hoping my RB30det build will be as bullet proof as your monsters lol. We need more RB knowledge out here!!
solid video bro!
11:10 we were the team that went just before you that day, same lane too, I even stayed and watched the bmw do the pull :D
Love it! 🤘
Thanks for the tips bro!
thanks for the RB tour mate 👍
If only they could make the N54 more fearless in the e92, 1 sniff of hoon and check light 😆
Rb says do a burnout, N54 says dont!!
I really thank you for this video its explains really important things, I have a question for you,, what other balancer you recommend if I can't get that one? Building little power, about 600hp+ at the wheel.
Thank you
Thst was a great video and really helpful as I’m getting ready to build my rb to a similar spec to you neo engine. One question I did have is I’ve bean told bye some people in addition to reducing and blanking one of the oil feeds to the head and the head drain kit you drill out some existing oil drains in the head is this true? Cheers Ian
Great video, thanks! Have you checked out the Ecumaster EMU Black ECU's? Great price and good features. I'm thinking about going there with my 25/30.
Cool video
Pretty amazing car
Also nice driving 🤙🏾
Thanks for the solid info.. Sold on the RB26/30 combo for an R32 build. Saw Anthony's engine from Dahtone Racing with the flyby wire system- any opinions on that? Just gonna be a street car no track drifting and that engine bay looked so clean.
Good on you Aaron!! Well said Jake!! RB 4 life
Love this video, great advice. I'm interested to know if you used a block brack for the 1000 hp setup? Do you think it is needed or you can do without? I'm at build stages of my engine and want to make it reliable. I have the N1 block also and some say I don't need one. I have the hks step 2 stroker and a NAprec race head with v cams. I want it to run around 900 but have it be able to do more and run it more efficiently. Keep up the videos!
What super damper are you using for the rb25? I tried talking to ATI told me they don’t make super dampers for RB25. Im so confused
RB Gang!
Which turbo is that and when does it make full power by?
Hell Yeah!
So much useful info! Thanks Jake & lone star
What Sequential transmission Brand were you running that managed to have the input shaft failure?
I’ve a rb25 neo which needs to be rebuilt, would you recommend forging rb25 and going big turbo or rb28 stroker kit?
Do love you video thank you for sharing. I'm about to get a r33 and start mopping up on some v8's that all everyone drives in tx and thinks is fast I hate it. #RBForlife
Awesome video! You the man Jake!Never heard of someone breaking a nitto pump. Good to know that after market gears in a stock pump are the way to go. I’ve got reimax gears in my rb26 so hope they hold up!
Yeah was only due to having too much end float in my main bearings. but thats all it took to chew less then 1mm of material out of the pump and caused it to suck air.
In deed a perfectly built engine reference. Awesome Rb build. 💪💪💪
O I love it already! Such a sick beemer
Awesome rb builds🤙🏽
One day I will have a car like this OMG!!
Here for the squid!
Is this the Houston drift wood?
Sorry no i am the Australian Driftwood lol
Aaron bring the DriftSquid to a TMS event. We all want it.
Yes him and naoki and that would be epic
ClutchkickPJ nakamura is already over here though isn’t he?
Hey bro , wandering where would you find a n1 pump with steel gears ? Or is it a d.i.y ,
Wish there was more info on the greddy style intake for the Neo like which sensors to keep and what water or vacuum lines to keep
thank you appreciated
rhanks mate think im gonna rebuild a 1000gp c33
Jake needs a GoFundMe to come to FD USA
I would but I dont want to look like a charity case you know. I so badly want to get to the US though.
Hello. Are you using shimles bucks on the RB?
Hey Aaron, i just stumbled upon this video and even thou as a RB fan who did my own research about the RB family of engine. You def open my eyes on the possibility of making a 1000BHP 10k rpm RB28DET.
You can spent a butt ton of money on expensive parts but if you get your tune wrong or a single part like the oil system fail or rods snapping. You would just flushed all your money down the drain.
I been eyeing on a few combinations of RB configs for different applications.
RB28 based with 600-700 bhp for World Time attack based R34
800-1000 bhp top speed wide open throttle RB28 or RB30 hybrid engine
And a drag purpose RB34 based on the RB30 block and 3.4L stroker kit.
I am thinking of using the Omori Factory built RB26DETT R2 spec and built from there.
The part list includes the N1 block and many of the N1 supporting parts like the N1 oil pump, water pump etc. And the fuel and ignition system have been upgraded to the R35 fuel and coil on plug spark system pack.
www.nismo.co.jp/omori_factory/original_menu/crs/index.html
I am drooling at the Clubman spec R34 here but it requires a R34 as the base car but now the prices of a unmolested R34 is over 100k
It almost touching a used R35 price tag.
Bummer...
Is that a link to a car you can buy?
@@LoneStarDrift nah it just showcasing what Nismo will do to a normal R34 they receive to convert it to the clubman specs with all the upgrades.
Thanks for sharing this information. Just a quick question however - I once read that RB25 NEOs contain smaller oil orifices going from the block to the head (as Nissan was aware of the oiling issue and the NEOS were the newest of the RB series), can you confirm this? I'm planning on installing a head drain on my RB25 NEO but I'm wondering if its absolutely necessary to blank one orifice and put a restrictor in the other, in conjunction with the head drain. Would like deal with oiling issue while engine is out of the car. Really beautiful RB builds btw my friend! Cheers.
Hit up drift squid directly on his instagram account.
Sweet sounds great job
Fuckin awesome video guys, thanks!!!
head drain in rb25neo drain oil from head to block for only 370-400hp like 15-17 psi only it’s must use drain head to black oil ???
Billet gears and pump is the way. The steel gears will slowly eat away at the stock pump.
how much did it cost to get 1000hp? i know nothing about rb's im a ls guy
While you won't be saving any money doing this, but a dry sump RB is damn near the last step to going full-blown race engine in my eyes. Ever explore any of those options?
Edit: Disregard, got a bit further in the vid =D
Good job squid
RB power 4 life
Did you listen to the engine note at the end of the video? Thats why they call the Skyline Godzilla.
Love just love it, same here iam in the US and cant stand the pushrod v8s
MiG Ren E' there’s nothing wrong with v8’s... they’re actually quite good. Hell... nascar v8’s make 1000hp at 10,000+ rpm naturally aspirated and live there all day, and they’re pushrod engines. but I do agree, nothing sounds quite like an rb smashing limiter!
To be fair the nissan trigger wheel is a COAT the easy option is simply put the AEM 24+1 trigger wheel in your standard set up ...and the haltech will be fine with it
I always remember people saying about power etc not rpm but now ive tasted big hp why not use the rb’s ability for high rpm it’s more interesting and unique and honestly I like the sound so would enjoy more day to day
2 words.
Closed. Deck.
We need some tracks like that one in japan where they get air. Ebisu (?)
Individual cylinder sensors for exhaust manifold?
Love the video. But should of been a R33
How much would it cost to make this amount of hp ?
I wouldn’t have thought head drains and oil flow restrictors would be necessary with just the n1? Was thought that was for the more high flowing pumps? Would anyone be able to shed light on as too why this is necessary
The N1 block is not as good as Nissan wants you to believe I think Herman from Prp did a vid on them
For rb25 neo engine, Are you using thicker head gasket? Do you have a return to your sump from your catch tank? Or the head drain enough for it? Thank you for the video learned much from it
1.2mm head gasket. And never have a return from your catch can to the sump. If using e85 that is. Trust me do NOT do it
@@DriftSquid mate we use pump gas, and we have a return from catch tank just over the sump, this is for crankcase pressure release. What do you do for crankcase pressure? I will email you our own setups from your website www.driftsquid.com
@Driftsquid where can i get the steel gear set for the n1 oil pump
Hi Octane racing mate
Why not fueltech ecu? Who does all the wiring for you?
Wow, nice and informative video. I'm disappointed at the limitations of the Haltech Elite being a Haltech by choice person, and also a RBGTR owner too. Mine is street and stock, but it's good to know what works and what does not work. Just need to do a little more research (or maybe you can advice) on how that extra trick sump would work on the 4WD system. Thanks for being open about the spec of the turbo too..Can you say the duration and lift of the cams you use to turn those insane 10,000 rpms?
Hey mate, Hit up Hi Octane Racing for the big sump on awd GTR setup. They sell kits and should have them in stock.
Yeah the cams are HKS Step 2, Duration: 272, Lift (mm): 10.2. Off the shelf cams mate.
Keeps making power with my old 6870 turbo at 9500rpm as well. Things a bloody animal
@@DriftSquid Thanks. Will keep following your publications. Good luck with the drifting.
@driftsquid, Great vid. All of the safeties in the BMW RB can be done with Haltech elite as well. Not knocking either. Motec is out of reach of many. Just think maybe people would discard Haltech for having the same functionality as moTec based on this review.
Can i put this engine in a Subaru BRZ???
I just bought an RB NEO 2 weeks ago. Tearing it down to do a head gasket, oil pump, extended crank collar and head drain. Never knew about the harmonics.
So i have a question, which ATI damper did you go with? Iv been looking and not sure which to get
I use the 1000hp rated one mate.
@@DriftSquid Thanks bud. And good luck with everything appreciate the help 🖤
@@abiotic_91 easy done man. Sorry I dont have the part number but there is only 2 you can pick from. 600hp one and the 1000hp one
@@DriftSquid Haha gotcha. And your good man, no worries. Any help is good help
What wold the cost be for this.
Ever consider the Adaptronic ecu? Supposedly it can read the stock CAS without missing counts. Usually dropped factory valves is because they are sleeve welded instead of one piece and long duration cams that require high revs, plus strong valve springs can rip them apart. Good video tho and I appreciate you taking the time to explain questions I had about oiling, I was sorta on the fence between putting spool billet gears in my n1 pump or buying a Nitto for a 700ish 2.8 in an o5u block.
Yeah pretty much any other aftermarket ECU is capable of running the stock CAS. Haltechs new elite ecu has some issues how ever. Not sure if they are fixed but I am not waiting to find out.
Yeah get the steel gears for your N1 pump and you will be sweet mate.
Can't the haltech do everything that the motec does? I'm also pretty sure that they can decode the stock reluctor wheel and the sensor. it's the clarity that becomes an issue at high RPMs and I would bet that the motek would have the same problem and that reluctor ring has been changed out on the other car that has motec. so your comparison is pretty skewed or one-sided.
Yeah its chalk and cheese between the two ECU's. But when you ring Haltech and ask why cant this new ECU run with a standard CAS. They respond with "our ECU is too sophisticated, you need a trigger kit"......
Which I then did straight away and im still having miss count issues. So time to change the ECU to Link and see the results. Not changing a single thing besides the ECu
2:24 likewise
whats a rough guess on what the m3 cost to get it to this point?
Ahhhhh. I dont want to add it up but it was suppose to be my first house haha
@@DriftSquid well i mean you can sleep in a car but you cant race a house! haha
Would a dry sump eliminate most issues plus a head drain tap??
Ha 😅I asked that while he was talking about the first rb26 😥 my bad
@Stephen j don't be a stickler lol 🤔😅👍
Did not see or find the links you mentioned in video. Can you advise the supplier of Oil Head Drain kit? (Harping? Racing) & would like to check into this Kevin Lawerence - u have his CZcams info or other? thx. ? enjoyed the clip from USA
Hioctanedirect dot com
Kevins video is on this channel. Google Kevin Lone star Drift
thx for the info, much appreciated.
@@hansbaarjr.2762 Easy done. Thank Lone Star
Rule nr 1# have money and next
have fun :D
#SquidToFD
So young so mutch knowlage well done young en burn that rubber
Interesting is the first time I’ve heard of someone having issues with haltech 🤷♂️🤔
Better breather system > head drain.
I agree on the more RB's. Not that I don't respect a v8 build ad they can be absolute monsters, I just find um played out
Hey aaron please try to get RYAN LITTERAL to make a video on his badass s14 rb25 neo drift car setup next!
ClutchkickPJ they kinda already did lol
Yeah search my channel for that video lol
@@LoneStarDrift I meant to say he more current rebuild of that car lol
Arby's is pretty good
isnt N1 oil pumps already have steel gears in them?
@yba202 Yes sorry I should have been clear on this
Thanks guys found out about them after little search didnt knew they made them!
i got 400whp on mine...and i have to take my motor out to check all these things .-.
simple.....money
Good way to keep others informed. Keep it up and if you want to talk more about RB's contact me @Nismology Inc Facebook and Instagram
@AdamLZ
The real question is how much does it cost to build a reliable rb
yeeeet!
Hey I wanna build a rb g35 could I use my g35 gear box
You literally can with an adapter kit
@@LoneStarDrift what's the the name of the kit
Collins adapter kit.