So You Want to Be a NURSE PRACTITIONER [Ep. 25]

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • So you want to become a nurse practitioner. You want to work in healthcare, but being a doctor seems like overkill. Why not have many of the doctoring upsides while avoiding many of the doctoring downsides. Here’s how you can decide if becoming an NP is a good career for you.
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:49 What is a Nurse Practitioner?
    03:13 Nurse Practitioner Myths
    04:38 How to Become a Nurse Practitioner
    07:22 What You’ll Love About Being an NP
    08:34 What You Won’t Love About Being an NP
    11:20 Should You Become an NP?
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Komentáře • 786

  • @laurentsanchez9994
    @laurentsanchez9994 Před 3 lety +139

    My father became an NP in this country, but he was a doctor in Cuba with 15 years of experience. Congrats dad🥳

    • @marycruser3521
      @marycruser3521 Před 3 lety +8

      He is an MD then as well - so he is a doctor!

    • @redpilledbachelor7776
      @redpilledbachelor7776 Před 3 lety +3

      Why didn't he apply for residency in the US?

    • @stephaniepierre11
      @stephaniepierre11 Před 2 lety +20

      @@redpilledbachelor7776 when you have something like a doctorate or a masters in a foreign country, when you come to America it’s usually degraded into something less so you have to work harder and basically start over; at least this is what my mother has experienced (she’s togolese)

    • @kathy5374
      @kathy5374 Před 2 lety +8

      Your father is more skilled and well trained than any US physician, especially coming from Cuba!

    • @KimAhrina11
      @KimAhrina11 Před rokem +4

      W dad, hope you would be success like your dad

  • @ThatWeirdoRightThere
    @ThatWeirdoRightThere Před 3 lety +183

    My aunt is a NP and been one for almost 20 years. She says that she really appreciated this video and it’s accuracy. She also said that most people truly have no idea what exactly NP’s do and that she thinks it’s important to have more videos like this because even though she’s not a doctor she wants everyone to recognize how qualified NP’s are to give care independently.
    Edit: She also wants to add that she does not believe that NP’s scope of practice should be broadened because she recognizes that this would be dangerous for patients if they don’t receive more training.

  • @zackysac
    @zackysac Před 3 lety +233

    I feel like this was made for me. After a year of nursing school with an end goal of NP in the back of my head since the beginning, I’m realizing I want to function as a physician on the healthcare team.

    • @user-yr6xc7gg8q
      @user-yr6xc7gg8q Před 3 lety +1

      Why

    • @SparksForces
      @SparksForces Před 3 lety +33

      I’m thinking the same you should finish your RN and apply to med school

    • @zackysac
      @zackysac Před 3 lety +3

      @@SparksForces can I ask why? I’m seeing time investment as the net con

    • @zackysac
      @zackysac Před 3 lety +19

      @@user-yr6xc7gg8q nursing is leaving me asking the why behind it all and the focus of nursing is caring for the patients in the immediate and short term future. Medicine based care approaches from a specialist’s POV and my brain is drawn to that

    • @user-yr6xc7gg8q
      @user-yr6xc7gg8q Před 3 lety

      @@zackysac have you considered crna

  • @greenteaoolongtea
    @greenteaoolongtea Před 2 lety +6

    thank you! Few years back I was watching your videos on medicine like SYWB a doctor etc, and recently I've been leaning towards nursing so I was really happy to see this ☺️

  • @baylorwiggins9781
    @baylorwiggins9781 Před 3 lety +463

    This one should be juicy, I’m more excited for the comments honestly.

    • @youngswoll3
      @youngswoll3 Před 3 lety +60

      Lol right, a lot of butt hurt med students and sensitive NPs on this already. I’ve got my popcorn ready 😂

    • @NishantGogna
      @NishantGogna Před 3 lety +16

      Came here for the comments lol

    • @MedSchoolInsiders
      @MedSchoolInsiders  Před 3 lety +103

      Cue massive self-preservation and egos at play in 3..2…1. Already seeing some fireworks and bending of facts

    • @veiled_sakura
      @veiled_sakura Před 3 lety +9

      Uh ohz! *also shamelessly gets popcorn ready*

    • @veiled_sakura
      @veiled_sakura Před 3 lety +4

      @@MedSchoolInsiders Complete with dumpster fires!

  • @veiled_sakura
    @veiled_sakura Před 3 lety +24

    THANK YOUUUUU DR. J!!!!!!! For making this vid for nursing n00bs like me who are passionate about very possibly becoming an APRN (NP or nurse anesthetist, haven't decided yet) in the far future. I'm currently on the pre-nursing path working to get into nursing school, then I have my eyes set on the ICU for the next some years, either adult or pediatric. This video was helpful beyond measure and cleared up a lot of confusion I had about the APRN pathways. And I additionally love that you got our lovely Nurse Liz to help out with this! She's an absolute gem and I adore her vids as well

  • @saulortiz991
    @saulortiz991 Před 2 lety +6

    Thank u so much for the information, as a nurse student I had so many doubts but your video helped a lot, I really appreciate it ❤️

  • @harlemm9762
    @harlemm9762 Před 3 lety +2

    Omg THANK YOU!! i keep bouncing between md/do and np. love the videos keep it up this really helps me decide.

  • @victoriahilton9125
    @victoriahilton9125 Před 3 lety +47

    Great job covering this topic. After going to school and now being a new NP, I cannot imagine working without an attending to consult with. I appreciate having a limited scope within reason, enjoy the relationships I get to build with my patients and seeing the less complex cases so the doctor can focus their attention on cases that may be more interesting or applicable to their training and knowledge. I appreciate the oversight and review of my charts and input, personally.
    I will say that I have interviewed for many positions that required call even in a restricted practice state. But that’s the only inaccuracy I really noted.
    I hope we are able to standardize NP education and possibly even include a model similar to MDs in which residency and fellowships follow. As noted in a different video about medical school, there is so much to learn and even after 4 years of in depth training, you only feel like you’ve scratched the surface. Imagine studying for less time. The transition from RN to NP is difficult and currently needs more support than I think it is given, even in restricted states.
    Thank you so much for presenting this video and to Nurse Liz (whom I am a big fan of) for collaborating. Great work team!

  • @sgtOOX
    @sgtOOX Před 3 lety +86

    This is such a BASED video; very professionally done handling such a sensitive topic without copping out

    • @_GandalfTheGrey_
      @_GandalfTheGrey_ Před 10 měsíci +2

      Why is it a sensitive topic to simply provide facts about a particular career?

    • @ANONYMOUS-zy3cd
      @ANONYMOUS-zy3cd Před 3 měsíci

      @@_GandalfTheGrey_

  • @coolman123ism
    @coolman123ism Před 3 lety +7

    THANK YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH I’ve been waiting for long for this video!!!!

  • @christianc1551
    @christianc1551 Před rokem +61

    In my last semester of PMHNP school. IMO, it is always best to work under the supervision of a physician for at least 2 years. As NPs, we have great autonomy but it is important to always seek help when we are able to in order to facilitate patient outcomes :)

    • @hanzalashaikh6577
      @hanzalashaikh6577 Před 5 měsíci

      I am intrested in becoming a PMHNP, can u give me more detaisl regarding salary, life balance and overall the whole path?

  • @genesiss7359
    @genesiss7359 Před 3 lety +11

    FINALLY!! I been waiting for this, Thank you!!

  • @kentaro6022
    @kentaro6022 Před 2 lety +150

    UCSF's NP program cost me $189k, I work 10 hour days 5 days a week with overnight on call duties. I think the NP program one goes to greatly influences the experience and outcome. Please say NO to online-only programs.

    • @eflo8264
      @eflo8264 Před 2 lety +7

      Why so expensive?

    • @brent212cburg
      @brent212cburg Před rokem +9

      Must have been a private university. It should never cost that for tuition unless you’re included other costs too

    • @dja4701
      @dja4701 Před rokem +13

      I think you got scammed. Should get your money back

  • @sara215
    @sara215 Před 3 lety +237

    You did this so respectfully. I’m very impressed. Thank you for speaking up for us. You have my respect as a future physician (250 days away).

  • @TamirMed
    @TamirMed Před 3 lety +468

    I was looking forward to seeing how you’ll tackle this controversial topic and I must say you did a great job of both staying neutral and still highlighting the issues that exist. Great job

    • @jainilsoni9922
      @jainilsoni9922 Před 3 lety +10

      BOLD move, he could be demonitized too if this gets high 5 digits views. I used to like this guy, now I love him

  • @vans4lyf2013
    @vans4lyf2013 Před 3 lety +130

    Great job, a very honest and fair depiction of what an NP is, whilst also broaching the topic of scope creep. Well done!

  • @Thugbert0
    @Thugbert0 Před 3 lety +71

    Really well balanced. Shout out to PPP.

  • @zebrastrong9291
    @zebrastrong9291 Před 2 lety +123

    I actually quit 3/4 of the way through my NP program. Having been an RN for over 10 years, I realized that I wasn’t learning enough to confidently take on the extra liability of being solely responsible for patient diagnosis and treatment (my state is an independent practice state). It’s scares the crap out of me seeing some the nurses that become NPs without experience beforehand on top of a poor teaching program.

    • @JayJay-ue3xy
      @JayJay-ue3xy Před 10 měsíci +6

      Wow this is really good insight and advice! Thanks

  • @wmg33
    @wmg33 Před měsícem

    Much respect to the men and women that do this work. The level of commitment just to receive the necessary education is a testament. They do everything a nurse do and many things doctors do

  • @hipoxic1659
    @hipoxic1659 Před 3 lety +95

    A video outlining the role of CRNAs would be fantastic. Thank you for the informative content - as always!

  • @Hi-qt2nj
    @Hi-qt2nj Před 3 lety +4

    Great video I am currently working on my BSN but I want to advance to next level and become a physician. Your videos have helped me a lot.

  • @leahalgu4364
    @leahalgu4364 Před 3 lety +10

    Such a great video and Nurse Liz is fantastic!!

  • @FacundoMD
    @FacundoMD Před 3 lety +34

    WoW ! Great video man ! ER doc here ! Everyone stay safe and study a lot ;)

  • @sharons888
    @sharons888 Před 6 měsíci +4

    It seems that psychiatrists have the same exact role as a psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner. What’s the purpose of going through all of those years of school and debt when you can take the short cut route and become a psych nurse practitioner.

  • @rollingrock3480
    @rollingrock3480 Před 3 lety +54

    IMO you handled this highly inflammatory topic with extreme tact. Well done.

  • @JC.Riding_656
    @JC.Riding_656 Před 5 dny +1

    I am 12 years old with a special needs sister. She is three years old and so I am sure for those of you who are reading this comment can imagine all that I have to learn with helping taking care of her.
    I obviously know how to change a diaper, i’m working on trying to learn more about giving her feeds through a micky button, I know how to use a cough assist, I know how to use “The Vest”, I know how to use a suction machine, and I also know how to use a oxygen tank. There is obviously still more that I need to look into, but with my mom trying to apply to nursing school and me already knowing a bunch already, I’ve decided I want to be a NP or js a regular Nurse.
    I’ve always loved to help take care of my little sister and I also want to help other people. I don’t necessarily want to be a doctor because I’m afraid that if I were to become one that it might be too much responsibility for me to handle which might change as I get older. Oh and I also know how to use a pulse ox too!
    I’m hoping that when I’m older I can get into nursing school but only the future will tell!

  • @chocolickme5479
    @chocolickme5479 Před 3 lety +7

    I’ve been waiting for this video for so long! I start my nursing program in august and I really wanted to see your input!!!!

  • @NurseLiz
    @NurseLiz Před 3 lety +224

    Super well done!! Thanks for the clear info 🙌🏻

    • @joshuahoward1997
      @joshuahoward1997 Před 2 lety +4

      Can you do a reaction video to this?

    • @NurseLiz
      @NurseLiz Před 2 lety +10

      @@joshuahoward1997 that’s a good idea!

    • @Phillip1220
      @Phillip1220 Před 2 lety +4

      I love your channel, your videos have been very helpful in getting me into my nursing program. Thank you.

  • @ellamae1776
    @ellamae1776 Před rokem +9

    I'm starting my program for NP and i feel so discouraged and dumb doing it online. This helped me to be motivated to pursue my degree.

    • @Dezzy372
      @Dezzy372 Před 6 měsíci

      Go BRICK AND MORTAR!

  • @rebeccac.l.5601
    @rebeccac.l.5601 Před 2 lety +6

    The education requirements are heavily dependent on where you go. Some schools you have to have X amount of nursing experience, and different specialties have their own requirements (i.e. neonatal requires NICU experience). I personally think there should be more standardization between programs, and nursing experience should be required. I can understand a requirement of fewer clinical hours IF the candidate was an RN for several years, but there should be more required clinical hours (like in nursing school). It scares me to think that people can go into this with little to no nursing experience, and I say that in response to some of the program setups you described.
    Thank you for this video. Very well explained!

  • @Silent_Sounds
    @Silent_Sounds Před 3 lety +7

    I'm currently working through an undergraduate, and since graduating high school, I've worked in Pharmacy to help pay for college and get experience in healthcare with drugs and direct contact with prescribers that I wouldn't be able to get shadowing or working as an MA or CNA.
    This means I directly work with pharmacists on the daily. Every pharmacist I have worked with to my knowledge had a PharmD, which is a doctorate. None of them title themselves doctor, because of how misleading it can potentially be.
    In fact, when I first started, I asked one of my supervising pharmacists if he would like me to refer to him as Doctor, and he was adamantly against any non-physician titling themselves Doctor in a healthcare setting... for good reason.
    Nurse Practitioners are very smart people, but as stated in the video they are absolutely not physicians and titling themselves Doctor in a clinical setting has no purpose except to deliberately mislead the patient.

  • @RNScrub
    @RNScrub Před 3 lety +5

    Great video! Thanks for explaining this to our fellow nurses!

  • @mr.noodle7984
    @mr.noodle7984 Před 3 lety +55

    People don’t talk about pathologists enough :(
    I would really appreciate a video about them!

  • @pistoldigito5158
    @pistoldigito5158 Před 3 lety +5

    I was waiting for this video ty so much!!!!

  • @bunbunblush5014
    @bunbunblush5014 Před 3 lety +16

    It would be great to see one on CRNA too!

  • @tanyalebedeva6471
    @tanyalebedeva6471 Před 3 lety +72

    In Canada a nurse can only become an RN after 4-year Bachelor of Science in Nursing degree. They are then required to have a few years of practice as an RN, and only then they can apply to NP school. And I think in all of the provinces NP's a equal in autonomy to Family Physicians. They can have independent practices, prescribe drugs and manage patients.

    • @daniellearabejo1300
      @daniellearabejo1300 Před 2 lety +7

      Yes! I’m planning to become a nurse practitioner in Canada. I think having a few years of practice as an RN will be a really essential part of becoming a good NP :)

    • @isabellegloutnay4983
      @isabellegloutnay4983 Před 2 lety +2

      I would also add ; in Quebec you become an RN after 3 years of CEGEP/College. Clinical nurse after 3 years of bachelor.

    • @robertovacca4037
      @robertovacca4037 Před rokem +1

      A doctor will realize he has lost his job when he is replaced by a nurse because the doctor costs too much. Only in the USA, the capitalist country par excellence, could the destruction of the medical profession begin. Know that in Europe nurses are replacing doctors not because there are no doctors but because they cost too much. The medical profession is the only profession that is abused. There is no such thing as a lawyer being replaced by a law graduate who is not registered in the register; there is no such thing as a judge being replaced by a clerk; there is no such thing as an engineer being replaced in the design by a surveyor technician. Only the medical profession risks disappearing to make way for the NPs and PAs. A shame that started in the usa.

  • @hannahcook9477
    @hannahcook9477 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video! I appreciate the transparency :)

  • @patrickx2420
    @patrickx2420 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Good luck finding a 2 year NP program. Masters programs are generally 3 years and DNP's are generally 6 years.

  • @SimpleFitNurse
    @SimpleFitNurse Před 3 lety +2

    Very well stated. Couldn't agree with you more.

  • @cleocarter
    @cleocarter Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you! Appreciated.
    Physical therapist considering becoming a psychiatric NP!

  • @mcbaggins12
    @mcbaggins12 Před 3 lety +53

    NP isn’t a medical specialty. The head of the AANP, Sophia Thomas, says NPs don’t practice medicine. They practice healthcare.

    • @what_do_you_want898
      @what_do_you_want898 Před 3 lety +5

      what is "practicing healthcare?",pretty sure 'practicing medicine' refers to different things work for different people, hence there is no perfect way of doing things and you are always working to improving your knowledge, hence why its a "practice". so i do not know what practicing health care means

    • @mcbaggins12
      @mcbaggins12 Před 3 lety +19

      @@what_do_you_want898 the reason Sophia Thomas says that is because she knows as soon as she says nps practice medicine, they are subject to the board of medicine. She does not want that. Bjt she wants them to be seen doctors though. And doctors practice medicine. So she came up with the bullshit "healthcare"

    • @lightyagami2294
      @lightyagami2294 Před 3 lety +9

      @@mcbaggins12 She's the chief of semantics... I can't help but be in awe at their lobbying and public relations efforts

    • @marycruser3521
      @marycruser3521 Před 3 lety +4

      @@rohseans Nope - they are not under the medical board in your state. If there is an issue - the nursing board is supposed to handle it and we see how well they have been doing that.

    • @FlyingUnosaur
      @FlyingUnosaur Před 3 lety +1

      @@rohseans you'll never be a doctor.

  • @OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro

    Hi. I'm one of your many subscribers! This is one the BEST reviews I have EVER seen! I work with some awesome NPs. We get along very well and, work with the supervising physicians to provide great care to our patients. 👋🏾👨🏽‍⚕️🏨

  • @isaiahpinkerton3445
    @isaiahpinkerton3445 Před 3 lety +38

    I never knew clinical hours at graduation was 3-8% of what physicians do, but I am glad he mentioned how expanding the scope of practice for NPs is not a majority opinion given that fact.

    • @carlisnotmyname8153
      @carlisnotmyname8153 Před 3 lety +4

      @@rohseans you are saying to look at your comments, but here they are talking about majority opinion

  • @joshb2686
    @joshb2686 Před 3 lety +7

    Love the PPP shoutout and how respectful this video was. NP’s and physicians both serve very important rolls in healthcare.

    • @kg-ke1fw
      @kg-ke1fw Před 3 lety +6

      NPs don't actually, they create more risk to patients and doctors!

    • @leobe2104
      @leobe2104 Před 3 lety

      @@kg-ke1fw what? They take care of patients how is that a risk.
      Or do you only mean the ones that think they have the authority of a doctor?

    • @leobe2104
      @leobe2104 Před 3 lety

      @@kg-ke1fw I'm really confused by this topic...
      So if I understood the issue there's NPs that want to practise without physician supervision and that's the problem here, right? Because I thought the comments here were implying that nurses in general, including the ones that know their role and the limits of their role were bad for patients. So this is only about the ones that think they can do more than they are schooled for right?
      I want to be a nurse, but one that knows her boundaries and this discouraged me a bit.

    • @dreamceline2093
      @dreamceline2093 Před rokem +1

      @@leobe2104 NPs have full practice authority in many states and work in their scope of practice very well.

  • @someonesomeone1998
    @someonesomeone1998 Před 3 lety +48

    I was fixated on being a pediatrician, then surgeon, then obgyn, now nurse practitioner 😩 my counselor keeps asking what I want to do like give the 15 yr old a break ✋🏽🙄

    • @SJ-qf2tz
      @SJ-qf2tz Před 2 lety +13

      you are reallly far form making that decision.. you can relax lol

    • @bolsack8902
      @bolsack8902 Před rokem +2

      At least they are all in the same field

  • @BK-iv1jw
    @BK-iv1jw Před 3 lety +7

    Great video! Very interesting. Can you please do a family medicine physician, geriatrician, pathologist, nephrology, allergy/immunology, and infectious diseases? I know that's a lot to ask, but just some suggestions! :) Thank you for all you do! I appreciate it.

  • @jhub8846
    @jhub8846 Před 2 lety +4

    Also something to consider is that most students with good grades can get into NP school however even with good grades there is still a good chance you will not get into medical school. This is not to say NP is not competitive however people like myself appreciate the higher chance of working in the Field I desire.

  • @hiimtiger
    @hiimtiger Před 3 lety +97

    Everybody wanna be a doctor but ain’t nobody wanna lift no heavy ass textbooks

    • @lightyagami2294
      @lightyagami2294 Před 3 lety +19

      isn't that the truth! You can't tell me the move towards doctorate rather than masters isn't because they want to be able to introduce themselves as Drs... I also heard PAs now want to be called Medical Practitioners, Physician Practitioners, or Physician Associate...what is going on?

    • @MedSchoolInsiders
      @MedSchoolInsiders  Před 3 lety +41

      Ah yes, words from the vegan cross fitter Olympian Ronnie Coleman

    • @hiimtiger
      @hiimtiger Před 3 lety +2

      @@MedSchoolInsiders I am reporting this comment for hate speech hahaha

    • @hiimtiger
      @hiimtiger Před 3 lety +31

      @@rohseans yes just not in a clinical setting where many patients equate “doctor” with “physician”

    • @avichal6630
      @avichal6630 Před 3 lety +13

      @@rohseans not in a hospital setting though cause you may confuse a patient into thinking you’re a real doctor

  • @ubaydhussain9844
    @ubaydhussain9844 Před 2 lety +95

    Can you please do more nurse videos' ? e.g. nurse anaesthetist, nurse cardiology and a nurse dermatology :)

  • @lizardry668
    @lizardry668 Před 3 lety +1

    thank you for this video! i was literally just discussing this exact thing with my friend yesterday, so what a coincidence!

  • @DarkKn1ght430
    @DarkKn1ght430 Před 3 lety +8

    I’m a registered nurse have worked in dialysis for 18 years. I was a CNA for 10 years and Dialysis Technician for 5 prior to nursing school. I’m getting my APRN license and staying in Dialysis.
    My only complaint is I wish NP programs had a few more entry requirements. I don’t feel like you should be able to graduate nursing school, work in an outpatient clinic for a year and then own your own practice as a PMHNP…
    I think Nurses should have a minimum of 3-4 years nursing experience with 2 consecutive years of the field you plan to go work in.

  • @gladys8285
    @gladys8285 Před 3 lety +7

    I would love to see a video about dentists, I’ve been debating if that’s the path I want to take 😊

  • @mehdinouroozi7129
    @mehdinouroozi7129 Před rokem +6

    Is not true that we nurses like to be called doctors, to be called a NURSE is enough proud. There always has been a thing that’s going to keep the insane gap between nurse and doctors widest that I don’t know why. We are working together for a common goal which is our peoples’ health not fighting for being called a doctor or a nurse.

  • @jenisshrestha8630
    @jenisshrestha8630 Před 3 lety +22

    Hey Dr. Jubaal, I wanna ask you a question: "How did you manage your time so effectively, like you're active on all fields from being in a med school to having a vacation tour to gym and many more? Please make a separate video on it. It's gonna be really helpful for all of us🤗
    -Love from Nepal🇳🇵

    • @Drjakeylareed
      @Drjakeylareed Před rokem

      I just posted a video on this topic! Great question~

  • @thewyattt9668
    @thewyattt9668 Před 3 lety +7

    Great vid as always

  • @mariaviveros7804
    @mariaviveros7804 Před 3 lety +5

    Is it possible for you to do a “so you want to be a pathologist”? I’m very interested in the topic as a career option

  • @jainilsoni9922
    @jainilsoni9922 Před 3 lety +95

    Good fucking lord. I just commented on your last video on how you would 'not' get into touching the hot potato as you're too big for this (1.2M subs, like come on), but you briefed this topic anyway. Amazing job man. More people need to hear this. BOLD fucking move grandpa J!

  • @sawyermclachlan5049
    @sawyermclachlan5049 Před rokem +5

    I think I’m might wanna be a nurse practitioner or a crna or cnm but I think the salary,responsibility and the mystery, teaching and research of a physician also attract

  • @zackwarshaw6893
    @zackwarshaw6893 Před 3 lety +79

    Some thoughts from someone who was an RN, got into CRNA school, then had a quarter-life crisis and left heath care completely:
    I think a LOT of what's stoking these flames are the direct-entry NP programmes. To me, the essence of being an NP is being a nurse first. The role was originally to supplement the provider workforce, and to acknowledge the "field knowledge" RNs naturally acquire over time (example: I'd trust the instincts of a 20yr veteran ICU nurse over a medicine intern on their 3rd day). However, like you point out several times, this knowledge forms within the framework of nursing, which is distinct from medicine. The content is the same, but it's framed and handled very differently. Acting as a provider under the nursing model requires a fair bit of experience within the nursing model... And the nursing model is not easily or quickly taught. It requires being... A nurse. These direct-entry programmes slam the candidates through nursing school in nine months, and then dive right into the provider-level material. That's not how NP education was ever meant to work, and I argue it straight up DOESN'T work.
    Speaking in vast generalisations, all of the NPs I encountered who I didn't think very highly of, I'd come to find out were from direct-entry programmes. One of my best friends who practiced as a nurse for almost 10 years before going back to a traditional DNP programme had a difficult time finding clinical placements, because the direct-entry programme also used the same clinical sites and had scared everyone off with the calibre of students they were sending. Most people in the traditional NP pathway are becoming NPs because they WANT to become NPs... They don't want to be physicians. The direct-entry programmes are filled with people who decide a health care career is for them later in life, or have a chemistry degree and either didn't get into med school or realise they want to do med school after it's too late to have a competitive application, and they see the autonomy available to NPs and decide that's the way to go--but carry with them all this insecurity.
    I refer to the learning curve for NPs as a free-range residency (think chickens). In the medical education model, candidates are hand-held until the system is virtually certain they know all they need to know and are good to be cut loose. With NP education, you're taken to the baseline of knowledge and then cut loose to make all the mistakes and get all the practice MDs get in residency, on your own... So 20 years into practicing a specialty as an NP, you're getting pretty close to physician-level knowledge of your area and are a highly effective and valuable provider... It's these insecure (probably direct-entry) new grad NPs giving the profession a bad rep.
    These are my thoughts and observations only....

    • @arnellec1174
      @arnellec1174 Před 2 lety +12

      Very well said! I truly believe that traditional NPs should be given the opportunity to have a residency post graduation.

    • @NA-oi6et
      @NA-oi6et Před 2 lety

      How does the direct-entry work? Is it for people already with bachelors or people with ADN?
      And if they have a bachelors, are you not required to have a RN degree to start practicing?

    • @zackwarshaw6893
      @zackwarshaw6893 Před 2 lety +4

      @@NA-oi6et The requirements programme to programme are different. Minimum entry requirement is that you have a bachelor's in something, but beyond that you just have to have the prerequisites done as outlined by that specific programme. The first year, or sometimes even half-year, they ram the candidates through all of the required clinical hours and class hours to sit the NCLEX, and then they take the NCLEX around month 9, that allows them to practice for the remaining two years as RNs... Now, if you were to cut them loose into an RN job, would they be able to do actually do it? No? Were they just force-fed information and then made to regurgitate it onto the NCLEX just to pass? Yes... And that's where the disconnect is for me. NPs should be nurses first... Not be "certified as a nurse" just by necessity for the end result... If a person is looking for that sort of trajectory, then I think their thought process is much better suited for the PA route.

    • @jamesmannsfield5699
      @jamesmannsfield5699 Před 2 lety +9

      But you aren’t.
      I am sorry. I worked as a nurse for years before going to medical school.
      I didn’t even know how I little I knew in comparison.
      You won’t see something, if you don’t know it is there.
      Experience is vital, but your scope and breadth of training also improves the quality of that experience.
      I am convinced after my experience the only way to become a doctor is to go to med school end of story.

    • @zackwarshaw6893
      @zackwarshaw6893 Před 2 lety +6

      @@jamesmannsfield5699 I didn't say any of that...

  • @amandastj7310
    @amandastj7310 Před 2 lety +14

    NP here. Great video.
    If you want to be a Dr. and believe you will be the same as a physician, you should not go to NP school, you should go to med school. Also, I think the clinical hour requirement only makes sense for experienced nurses who have educational background AND already have years of real life nursing experience. Personally, I believe a certain level of experience should be a requirement for admission. But if NP programs are going to accept those right out of nursing school, the clinical hour requirements should at least match PA programs.

    • @hhc1948
      @hhc1948 Před 2 lety

      Most PAs go into school with just shadowing experience. Thats no experience.

  • @dolphinsmadden
    @dolphinsmadden Před rokem +3

    Honestly I like working with my NP more than my doctor.

  • @BedStuyDOD62
    @BedStuyDOD62 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I know some NP’s that can run circles around some MD’s. It’s mainly due to where/ how they were trained and true commitment to quality care. What state you reside in affects your scope of practice and many NPs are impacted by lawsuits these days. I thank God my mentors were great and I attend CE courses frequently (Wendy Wright is so knowledgeable) to keep up to date. Good luck choosing what’s best for you.

  • @josiethomson1929
    @josiethomson1929 Před 2 lety +4

    Believe me ,what ever you do never give up finally I've become an FNP on my 3rd attempt , I can’t believe I almost gave up after not making it for the 2nd time ,fortunately for me I was recommended to a tutor by my friends

    • @maevejaelyn5553
      @maevejaelyn5553 Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks , i have being wondering where i can get the necessary assistance to pass my test but , i have being writting the NP test for 5years just hope i will be able to make it this time , i won't give up on Any occasion

    • @maevejaelyn5553
      @maevejaelyn5553 Před 2 lety +1

      Please is there any way I can get to him ?

    • @tenirihna6258
      @tenirihna6258 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank God I finally passed my NP test on my 3rd attempt with the help of Mr DAVID, I used his preparation tips. just 3 days of working with him and I passed. I was referred to him by a friend before my exams. Please friends I recommend you to mr DAVID. The man has the key to getting your exam.

    • @josiethomson1929
      @josiethomson1929 Před 2 lety +2

      @@maevejaelyn5553 yes you can search for cappleman J James on face book

    • @isabellateny5084
      @isabellateny5084 Před rokem

      We have a lot in common with a special recommended tutor , having tutor who sacrifices all they have for their students is not very necessary, mr DAVID equally took me to his WhatsApp group and made me feel like a student, thank God of him if not I would not has succeeded this year. Am so grateful 🤲 for him

  • @eboni5175
    @eboni5175 Před 4 měsíci +2

    NPs can have way more clinical/patient contact hours than suggested in this video. My BSN program had over 900 hours and most schools require at least 2 years of relevant direct patient care experience before you can even apply (approx. 4,000 hours if you only work 3 shifts a week and 2 weeks of vacation for each year). Many RNs have 3-5+ years of experience before going back to school. Then factor in the hours of clinical experience for the actual MSN or DNP program (approx. 1100 hours not including time spent in the lab practicing your clinical skills) and you're around 5000 hours at a minimum. Not 500-1500 lol. Also, in a clinical setting Psychologist can refer to themself as a Doctor. So I would assume the push for the Doctor title comes from the work put in to attain a terminal degree. I don't see an issue introducing yourself by saying, "Hi (insert name), my name is Dr. (insert name) and I am a Nurse Practitioner. I will be providing care for you today."

    • @lilyfillhart3118
      @lilyfillhart3118 Před dnem

      I agree that the hour amount may be a little misrepresented in this video. There are definitely some programs that require a substantial amount of hours, but it all depends on the program you chose for BSN, MSN, or DNP. I know some programs don’t have nearly enough clinical hours, but there are plenty of highly accredited programs that do. I also understand some of the opinions that you should be allowed to call yourself a doctor with a DNP, but I also think it gets convoluted and should be done with extra caution and very clear wording and acknowledgment that you are not an M.D. Otherwise, I don’t necessarily think you have to have a “doctor” title as an DNP but that’s just my opinion.

  • @andyjoseph4198
    @andyjoseph4198 Před 3 lety

    Very insightful video.

  • @skandanarayan3059
    @skandanarayan3059 Před 3 lety +6

    Can you do a so you want to be a clinical pharmacist and what their roles are

  • @minananananan1842
    @minananananan1842 Před 3 lety +10

    I would really like some videos about
    PM&R
    Endocrinologist
    Rheumatologist
    And family medicine

    • @frostassassin7265
      @frostassassin7265 Před 2 lety

      FM would be cool to see, since it’s one of the most matched specialities

  • @itsparis3872
    @itsparis3872 Před 2 lety

    here in the uk to work as an RN you have to have a 4 year bsn and a minimum of 2.500 clinical hours and 2 years clinical experience minimum before applying for a specialty

  • @wowww123
    @wowww123 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for this video!

  • @angiecam91
    @angiecam91 Před 7 měsíci +8

    I don’t understand why it’s a big ordeal for DNPs to call themselves doctors where PhDs in clinical settings are referred to as doctors and patients do not confuse them with physicians. Personally it’s a silly argument and no I don’t think think DNPs are saying they are physicians I think they just want to acknowledge their level of education.

  • @_bass_clarinet_
    @_bass_clarinet_ Před rokem +50

    I came into college planning to be a psychiatrist and was highly intimidated by med school and all it entails (long residency and such) I still wanted to practice mental health care but wanted to go from a medical perspective. I did some research and found a career of Mental Health Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner and the Nursing school I’m interested in offers a program for it! 😁 Now I just gotta figure out if it’s what I really want

    • @trishaanne9890
      @trishaanne9890 Před rokem +4

      Hii, I’m in college right now! Not sure if being a psychiatrist is for me either but also interested in being a MHPNP. How are you doing right now? :) Also, what major did you decide on? Thanks!

    • @ashm003
      @ashm003 Před 5 měsíci

      Hi! Its been a year since you commented. If you don't mind me asking, what decision did you end up making regarding whether or not to pursue that path?

  • @PostprandialTorpor
    @PostprandialTorpor Před 2 lety +1

    Direct entry program costs are way higher $120-150 here in California as it includes rn

  • @vercellisacosta2643
    @vercellisacosta2643 Před 3 lety +54

    Can you do "So you want to be a Neonatologist" pleaseee ✨

  • @erriestar
    @erriestar Před 3 lety +43

    Love your channel!
    Can you please do “So You Want To Be A Family Medicine Physician” please.
    I would really appreciate it!

    • @kg-ke1fw
      @kg-ke1fw Před 3 lety

      Not sure why because it's basically a 3 year intern/residency after med school.

    • @erriestar
      @erriestar Před 3 lety +12

      @@kg-ke1fw Well that is what I would personally like to see. Just like everyone else commentating what they want to see. Pediatrician and internal medicine are 3 years and there is a video for both of them. So what is your point???

  • @HoneyBee1980
    @HoneyBee1980 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the information

  • @yotuba9493
    @yotuba9493 Před 2 lety +13

    I didn't want to be a part of medical field because I knew it would be hard but it's worth it to me. I want to be a pnp (in nursing school for bsn currently) because I love the life-work balance, the expertise I can provide, application of medicine, and being able to work with families and kids on a bonded level.

    • @calebkennedy2237
      @calebkennedy2237 Před rokem

      What did you do to get accepted into school? I’m nervous I won’t get accepted.

    • @KimAhrina11
      @KimAhrina11 Před rokem

      @@calebkennedy2237 study maybe

  • @sophiazinatolentino4598
    @sophiazinatolentino4598 Před 3 lety +3

    In Philippines, nursing is a good pre-med for medicine. Many opt to go nursing as a backup if they lost the motivation to go med school

    • @kg-ke1fw
      @kg-ke1fw Před 3 lety +1

      I've never heard of this... PA more likely.

  • @lorealshedrick3502
    @lorealshedrick3502 Před 3 lety +3

    would love to see a video on being a CRNA! :)

  • @Athandatu
    @Athandatu Před 3 lety +10

    You know the comment section is going to be fire!!

    • @Athandatu
      @Athandatu Před 3 lety +8

      @@rohseans I'd like to see where you set the record straight. Is it in a different comment? Are you an NP? Or were you one? Just trying to understand what you mean by setting the record straight

  • @watermelondonuts3906
    @watermelondonuts3906 Před rokem

    Thank you for the useful information and closed captions. Those rlly help me understand what I want to know about the medical field : )

  • @rlouis215
    @rlouis215 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m already in a np program and it’s not easy but it’s worth it this time next year I will be in my final stretch and near the end of next year I pray I will do a video of finishing the program

  • @CuriousDoc
    @CuriousDoc Před 3 lety +22

    As a doctor in Australia, scope creep for NPs and PAs is less of an issue but it's interesting to see where we're headed (likely a similar path to the US).

    • @kg-ke1fw
      @kg-ke1fw Před 3 lety +17

      It's bad in the US! The VA has been scrubbing physians for NPs as have clinics and urgent care. I know many people who saw NPs and never knew it because they don't have to say they are a NP and they generally look like a physician with the white coat. You pay the same but get a much less knowledgeable/educated person.

    • @jennelgarcia
      @jennelgarcia Před 2 lety +9

      @@kg-ke1fw you’ve been leaving so many different negative comments about NPs in this comment section and it’s just really sad. I hope on my journey as a physician I don’t become this egotistical.

    • @kg-ke1fw
      @kg-ke1fw Před 2 lety +2

      @@jennelgarcia obviously you know nothing about nps because they are a bane to the profession.

    • @jennelgarcia
      @jennelgarcia Před 2 lety +1

      @@kg-ke1fw glad to know many physicians who don’t feel this way

    • @kg-ke1fw
      @kg-ke1fw Před 2 lety

      @@jennelgarcia every physician i know thinks nps are doing nothing but bringing problems to the industry. You obviously have no clue.

  • @robertorangel2921
    @robertorangel2921 Před 3 lety +30

    Please do "so you want to be an infectious diseases doctor" ❤️

    • @mariam2894
      @mariam2894 Před 3 lety

      Yes 👏 👏I like this topic to

  • @danjoshua3721
    @danjoshua3721 Před 3 lety +14

    Amazing video, and something I’ll consider becoming an NP since I’m a nursing major. Also, Could you do one about a Pulmonologist please?

  • @rafeenaashik2035
    @rafeenaashik2035 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Nurses have very better practical knowledge then most of the doctors

    • @mortaccio4241
      @mortaccio4241 Před 5 měsíci

      lol doctors probably know more about wiping butts than nurses and thats all nurses do all day

    • @rafeenaashik2035
      @rafeenaashik2035 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Take some knowledge about nurses before commenting here,doctors and nurses hv their own roles and responsibilities not only cleaning,they do much more,so try to shut up if u don't know what they do

  • @ruthie5279
    @ruthie5279 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I disagree with the hours, you have tons of hours from Nursing school totally different than PAs. Also some have more than 10 years of experience from ICU to ER etc.

  • @nanasekagawa6108
    @nanasekagawa6108 Před 3 lety

    This is the earliest I’ve been, gasp :o

  • @delaineyiles7086
    @delaineyiles7086 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you please do a "So You Want to Be a Cardiovascular Perfusionist"

  • @Jackie-eb8nb
    @Jackie-eb8nb Před 3 lety +3

    man ive waited for this for too long

  • @ems7623
    @ems7623 Před rokem +1

    Healthcare is one area of education in the US in which the demands of the labor market have actively started shaped degrees and curricula. Sometimes that's been very healthy. The abundance of medical tech degrees and certifications is a good example of how this can work well. The NP, PA, MD overlap is an odd outcome created by the shortage of MDs in certain regions and certain specialties. It seems to solve the shortage problem but I have to wonder if the roles couldn't be more effectively distinguished from each other. What strengths and weaknesses does the nursing model offer that the medical model is less good at? And surely PAs could be integrated into a reshaped medical education with all MDs being PAs first, raining expérience and earning income before deciding y if they want the extra degree to be a specialist in the more complicated areas of medicine.

    • @JoJo-vi6xx
      @JoJo-vi6xx Před rokem

      Yea there should me a pa to md step program like they have for lpn to rn. I read that by 2034 or comethin we will literally have a huge shortage of Md. that is so dangerous because nursing doesn’t go into the science aspect like doctors do. Something needs to be done 😢😢

  • @DragosRoute66
    @DragosRoute66 Před 3 lety +5

    I would sincerely appreciate if you could make a video about Pathology or Infectious Diseases. Thank you!

  • @Atomicxxrushxx
    @Atomicxxrushxx Před 3 lety +4

    You should do a video on pathology/infectious disease!

  • @thaliaschannel917
    @thaliaschannel917 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi, I am going off to collage next year and I am wondering what the difference between your typical un-specialized nurse and a nurse practitioner are. Love your channel by the way!!

    • @rachaeld.4753
      @rachaeld.4753 Před rokem +3

      Hi there! All nurses are specialized nurses meaning every single registered nurse has a specific area in which they work whether that be in Med/surg, cardiac, renal, women's services, emergency, ICU, NICU Acute care, Pediatrics, etc. Registered nurses either have an associate's degree or a bachelor's degree or an licensed practical/vocational nurse degree. To become an NP, a registered nurse needs to go back to school to get that degree which is usually a master's degree or sometimes even a doctorate degree. I would describe a Nurse Practitioner as a "mini doctor" basically- they have their own patient's, can diagnose acute care issues, and prescribe medications. A registered nurse is basically at the frontline at the patient's bedside doing assessments, giving meds, and daily care, of the patient. Hope that helps!

  • @Valour-qh9ie
    @Valour-qh9ie Před 3 lety +2

    Do a video on you want to be an oncologist!

  • @beinghuman9007
    @beinghuman9007 Před 3 lety +2

    Pls make videos on physiotherapy

  • @nicolehessabi5116
    @nicolehessabi5116 Před 3 lety +2

    Part time DNP-FNP student here. My degree is taking me 5 years. I’m working as an RN throughout.

  • @juliusl5211
    @juliusl5211 Před 3 lety +13

    Thank you Thank you for separating PAs and NPs!!

  • @stephanieflores7977
    @stephanieflores7977 Před rokem +2

    Im an ER nurse. My biggest pet peeve is hospital NPs who introduce themselves as “doctor” it’s to pretentious. In my opinion NPs should only be referred to as “doctor” in the educational setting.

  • @yuze4267
    @yuze4267 Před 2 lety

    For the clinical hours part, NP train in one specialty for 500-1500 hours, whereas PA train in several different specialties for 2000 hours.

    • @royjohnson9043
      @royjohnson9043 Před 2 lety

      PA's are assistants

    • @hhc1948
      @hhc1948 Před 2 lety +1

      Right. But many of them just go into PA school with shadowing experience. While RNs went through nursing school and then worked on the wards. So don't discount that experience.

    • @KnewYawkPapi
      @KnewYawkPapi Před 2 lety

      Thats actually a good point. So in actuality they have minimal training to have split the 2k hours amongst several speacialties.