Rat Rig V-core 3 part 1 - Premium coreXY 3D printer community build
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- I’ve wanted to build a top shelf 3D printer kit for a while, and now I present part 1 of the Rat Rig V-core 3 series. This appears to be an outstanding design: rigid, high quality, modular and containing amazing features such as a three point self levelling tool plate bed. My patrons helped me choose this and so far I’m very happy with it.
In the first episode, we cover available options, why I chose the Rat Rig, unboxing and components, 3D printed parts, the electronics panel, and the first six assembly stages. The Lowrider2 3D printed table top CNC even makes an appearance!
Next episode will feature the EVA carriage system and the rest of the assembly. Which hot end/extruder combo should I choose? In the future we'll be setting up Klipper and pushing the machine to its limits.
This kit was purchased with my own money, apart from the shipping which was provided free of charge by Rat Rig. All opinions expressed are my own.
Order the Rat Rig V-core 3: www.ratrig.com/3d-printing-cn...
Rat Rig V-core 3 project page: v-core.ratrig.com/
Rat Rig V-core 3 GitHub: github.com/Rat-Rig/V-core-3
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#Speedboatrace video by Annex_Engineering: • #SpeedBoatRace Challen...
EVA website: main.eva-3d.page/
Klipper: www.klipper3d.org/
Other models mentioned at the start:
vorondesign.com/
hevort.com/
seckit3dp.design/
www.blvprojects.com/blv-mgn-c...
www.layerfused.com/
www.thingiverse.com/thing:225...
Black acrylic panel i purchased: www.bunnings.com.au/suntuf-90...
3D printed CNC router - Lowrider2 series: • 3D Print your own CNC ...
SKR Pro dimensions: www.biqu.equipment/products/b...
Raspberry Pi dimensions: learn.adafruit.com/assets/17950
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Kit options and my selection
3:09 Series plan
3:35 Rat Rig ordering process
4:58 Unboxing and components
6:30 Printed parts
8:23 Electronics panel feat. Lowrider2 CNC
10:24 Stage 1 - Frame assembly
12:35 Stage 2 - XY drive assembly
13:38 Stage 3 - XY idler assembly
13:58 Stage 4 - Z motor mounts
14:37 Stage 5 - Linear rails
15:47 Stage 6 - X gantry
17:33 What’s next?
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when he said ''I'm thinking of making a CoreXY 3d printer this year''
i was like WHOA!!
this teacher never fails to surprise us. Respect!!
I was already looking for a core xy and then you make this video. You are always on point with a tutorial just when I need it. First for the skr board then the bl touch. The best 3d printing information.
0:50 for clarification the V in voron doesnt stand for version but for Voron and the voron 2.4 is in conjunction with the 1.8 the oldest up to date model of a voron. They're diferent machines not versions of the same, and the vorons you can build are Voron 0 (V0), Voron 1.8 (V1.8), Voron 2.4 (V2.4), Voron Switchwire and voron legacy. Besides the legacy (which is a tribute to older printers with rods and stuff) all the vorons are diferent machines with diferent up and downsides to which one.
Yeah, the latest version is actually V0.1 ;)
@@SystemsPlanet There is no best overall, you need to set an use case first before choosing which model to build.
V0 has been a very popular option because, let's face it, the majority of prints can fit inside a (120mm)³ print volume. The printer heats fast, prints fast, and is just plainly cute. 😊 However, it is acknowledged as the most challenging Voron to build just because it is so small and packed.
Voron 1.8 and 2.4 are very similar in print quality. The 1.8 could be described as a CoreXY Ender 5, with the printing bed moving on the Z axis; the 2.4, on the other hand, have an static printing bed, the gantry being able to move on 3 axes. It can be called the flagship model, being the most expensive model to build. However, it doesn't necessarily means it has a better print quality.
Yeah, that’s not confusing at all. They really need to come up with better naming…
@@UloPe as far as I know that‘s why switchwire and legacy are not v3 and v4. so they already did that but the existing printers just keep their name
I ended up doing a Voron 2, and I am a happy man.
Also building one, but with the 350mm version 30 30 extrusions would have been nice
@@010falcon Yes the 20/20 are a little bit small for the 350. I did a 300. Make sure to derack the frame and fine tune the printer with input shaper ;)
@@BonBaisers Hey I'm still on the fence between the this and the Voron, what do you mean by "derack" the frame?
@@slayga it means making sure frame is square :)
Can't help but notice your Senna hoodie.. Glad to see some people still remember Ayrton Senna.. :)
Never forgotten.
I'm really looking forward to the rest of this series!
This video is soooo good! You give the perfect overview and motivation at the beginning. Perfect!
Great video, when I decide to build a corexy, I'll know what to do.
With a plus, using a ratrig kit, straight from Portugal 🇵🇹👍
Another interesting option that in my opinion deserves more attention are the annex engineering 3d printers. What sets them apart from the others is that all the printers of the project are cross gantry, so four non moving motors instead of two, and shorter belt paths compared to the coreXY kinematics. The speed they are capable of is insane!
Great project
Obriter extruder!! V. 1.5 that is
Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us :-)
Been watching dozens of hours of footage concerning the Voron 2.4. One video of yours about this RatRig, and you've made up my mind. 🖤 💚
RatRig better than the Voron 2.4? Isn't static bed more stable?
@@karoo_bushman6880 You'd think that would be the glaring issue, but in all my research, it just doesn't seem so. I think the V-Core is just so damned rigid, it doesn't make enough of a difference for all the other benefits to matter. Honestly, though, it really just seems to come down to matter of preference. They're both so high-performance, in comparison to mostly anything else, that the pros outweigh the cons. I will say that the RatRig community seems a smidge less elitist. Like, the passion seems to be more into printing, rather than just being able to say, "I have one of the nicest 3D printers in the world".
Just my observations over the past few months.
@@karoo_bushman6880 Biggest pro to me is the fact that the biggest V-Core's build volume is 500mm³. You're talking some SERIOUSLY CHONKY PRINTS, bahaha. ✌🏽💜🤘🏽
@@the_wretched True :) My problem is my Prusa MK3S already prints soo damn perfect, just ordered a Bondtech LGX FF to get even better retraction and higher speeds with TPU.. got all my materials dialed in perfectly up to ABS and ASA (enclosure), haven't ventured into Nylon yet though. But I like highly detailed smaller prints, so probably a Resin printer would be better for me (noticeable optical improvement) but I'm reluctant of the sticky mess and smell, so I've been looking at even higher quality FDM printers.. RatRig or Voron seems to be the best FDM can do? If that gives reliable high-quality prints with any material, that's worth more to me than messing with Resin. But people say you can get the same quality as a Voron with a Prusa if you just print slowly..
Just a perfect example of what we look for in a project. Including all the extra work to get the extras done.
16:20 I lost it 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for the laugh, I needed that!!!
A core XY is a true workhorse.. Never fails to deliver.
Good work! I will wait eagerly for part 2.
Wooooa so excited to see Rat Rig on your channel!
This video convinced me to impulse-order a kit. Very excited to receive mine!
You have been of great help with your content. Thank you very much and best greetings from Ingolstadt (Germany).
Well done Michael.
I'm sure you will love this beast.
The frame is a tank and the "moodability" is awesome.
Let's see what you think of it. Something (maybe) half the price of a Voron.
Waiting for the next one, best regards from Portugal.
BTW, if you need anything, just let me know. I'm close the the guys in Ratrig ;)
I have 2 of these at work, which I built. The 400mm pro was a pain in the ass to get that huge bed to work right. Now they have the rails at the bed corners which solves the problem I have.
There's an upgrade for the Pro (1.3) that gives you the kinematic bed :)
Finally the Lowrider makes a cameo 😂
heeey that @2:56 looks familiar! :) thank you for the mention. glad you liked it
Yeh, but that's not you!
Tomaski was instrumental in getting this to happen so I am very grateful.
My grandfather always said to use the right tool for the job. The Chop was clearly the right choice 👍
Great Video, Michael. Keep 'em coming.
I passed up all the printers shown for the Pro 3D V-King at 350 X 350 X 400 and I love it!
You get a rubber duck ... I'm sold, count me in.
The rubber duck comes with Bigtreetech stuff so you don't even have to invest in this printer.
A great video, and I have no doubt this is going to be an amazing printer, but my favorite part was seeing the Lowrider in action.
That's the first time I've actually 'needed' it for a project. I would have been stuck without it.
This is the best 3d printer kit build video. I almost bought a Voron kit, but now I lean towards the rat rig - especially because they are EU based so I can avoid import tax
Great video and amazing to see Senna in the world!
I love your videos. It has showed me how to start building a new machine. I will probably get one of this in the future. I used a ender 5 pro and have installed the lerdge k board with direct drive and alot of other features. So thank you.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching :)
As I was watching this I couldn't help thinking, "this is alright I guess. If he wants to make it really professional, he should work in a Karate Chop." Imagine my surprise. rofl
Thank you for showing me this. watched the stream last night. ordered the 500x500x500 version. thank you again ;)
Did you get it? Mine still in production and who knows when it would be done.
Thanks Michael for the Ayrton Senna cloth. I watch you at speed x2 like Senna and it's awesome ❤️
Haha... that's actually helpful, but 1.5x is more feasible. Now, I actually can't watch his video at the normal speed anymore.
@@nachiketmhatre7411 with a bit of training, you will achieve x2.0, ok watching for the people who are able to pronounce words properly at normal speed.
The only downside is people will start to sound like they take too much cocaïne :)
I have a D-bot but this looks a whole step above. I’m tempted 😉
Nice! Didn't even realize there were so many others beside the Voron. Klippy is amazing as well, I hear people having their doubts, but I'd say that's likely because they either never print super fast or already have printers that just behave fine to begin with (like Prusa's). My Ender machine didn't have linear advance as the drivers don't support it, Klippy does this by using the Raspberry itself, which totally sold me on it. Together with anti-ringing, it now prints fast, reliable and I think as beautiful as a well built Prusa (obviously other mods are needed as well to do that :) ).
I Hope I will get my kit in next few days, but crew from RatRig didn't expect that number of orders :) Waiting for next videos and test prints!
Ordered mine in July. Just got the DHL tracking number today.
Great video, professional knowledge and experience to share with everyone.
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I have preordered an SK-Tank and can't wait! I am designing a mount for a Biqu H2 to go on it.
great production and organization!
Thumbs up for your hoodie! Senna rocks!
Use the orbiter! A light extruder on a corexy printer is a good combo.
Great series. Side note. I love pancake steppers. I'd love to build a working scale model printer with them haha
This looks sweet. I've been looking at my Ender 5 (with no upgrades) recently and all I can think of is upgrading to something like this.
Thanks for sharing!
Very cool and fun to see something other than a Voron, I would pick the Orbiter as I have heard great things but dont see it used that often, it also goes with the Open Source nature of the build.
I think he’s using an orbiter on the sk-go. I’d love to see it on here.
I purchased two at the time so it is the front runner.
I took a £100 delta printer, grabbed klipper/mainsail on a raspberry pi zero and I’ve got ridiculous quality with close to no knowledge of 3D printing. Klipper is insane.
Any videos or pics of the delta you went for?! How can i get more details?
@@ahtiramqureshi7788 flsun qqs pro on sale
I was looking at making something like a HevORT or possible Voron as my second place option but I'm really liking the look of this so far. I'm thinking of modifying to fully enclosed and heated chamber for some higher temp stuff and core xy gets the motors out of the way pretty well for that.
I'm drooling over this printer
Dear Michael, you have tested many different hotends in the past, but I would recommend trying the ‘NOVA-hotend’ by 3D Passion for this project, because it is seemingly one of the best choice out there for high-speed printing. Your relentless efforts are truly commendable and much help for the community and enthusiasts…
It does look very promising, but keep in mind that all the videos you are seeing are using highly elevated temperatures to achieve the high flow, which leads to pretty disappointing print quality in practice if every bit of your print is not printed at the same speed with the same flow, which is very very rarely the case.
You have become my favourite 3D channel young fella. It's so nice to see a very informed video without all the stupidity that is often used by others. Keep up the great work. Unfortunately I can see a divorce coming along after purchasing this new kit hahahahaha!
Brilliant!!, never crossed in my mind using a karate chop instead of the mallet
And I had a mallet sitting next to me on the bench too..
@@TeachingTech psh. Who needs a mallet when you have karate skills 😎😎
I love that you are doing this. It has allready relieved so much stress from me, just by going along so smoothly. Wouldn't you want to make a machine like this an IDEX? or at least dual extrusion? Your Hbots are all ready sporting direct drives. I really want to see this thing become my goal machine. A core xy IDEX with a heated chamber capable of 80 degrees C. It should print just about any material at 0.05 resolution. For me speed is not the reason to have a core machine. Repeatable perfection is my only goal. Then I might try to speed things up. I can't wait for the next installment. Thanks for being so awesome at what you do. I'm not sure about the Klipper thing though, I am just starting to understand how to work with marlin and build firmware for my machines. Its been 2+ years and I am still a novice with marlin, Now to have another control system to learn syntax for? I will watch to see if you turn grey trying to get it dialed in. Then decide about that. Keep on rockin'.
So so tempting!
I love your hoodie! Your interests overlap so much with mine lol
LOVE that sweater!
Very nice! I hope to buy a kit like this one day. For now, my ender 5 plus will do the trick :)
I vote you go with the orbiter.
Am I bloody glad that I ordered one 2 days ago, there's sure to be a surge in sales with this video and the lead time is already bad as is it is lol.
Sweet shirt. good video. It seams like the core XY are going to final dethrone the CR-10/Ender.
Great Video👍👍
The Karate Chop bit had be rolling tho XD
For the truly high end experience on the extruder i would have loved to see remote direct drive, like the zesty nimble or flex 3d.
Good to see 3D printers adding "pillow blocks" (thrust bearings), but maybe they could start adding them to the correct side of the flexible couplings. :)
We have a design for full pillow blocks, which I'm currently using. They're great, but are much harder to install, as you're effectively turning your flexible coupler into a rigid coupler, so wobble becomes a larger issue. The goal here is to offload the motor shaft, and the default design accomplishes that just fine. The only advantage of full pillow blocks (as we call them) is that they eliminate coupler compression as well (which is already minimal with spider couplers). So because ease of assembly was a priority we opted for the design you see in the video.
Nice hood. Greets from Brazil
Wow that unique bed might also have the ability for non-planar printing
can't wait for part 2 and the rest as i am thinking of going for one of these when is the rest coming online :P
Love the sweater
Regarding the electronics panel: I'd just cut the sheet to size by hand, put my components where I want them, stick a pen throught the holes and drill those by hand too. Accurate mounting is crucial for the operation of the machine when it comes to the frame, the lead screws and so on, but the electronics? I would have just yolo'd it lol
If I may, as far as extruder choices what about something like a mini Sherpa? Light weight and using a nema 14. I noticed also that Mellow store released an integrated hotend/extruder using a nema 14 at 5:1 using e3d hotend components and creality spec mounting with low weight and a unique quick filament feed system. Might be worth casting an eye over too.
I vote for the Orbiter; selfishly, because I'm thinking about building one and I want to know if it's worth it. :)
I already have a video on it fitted to my Seckit: czcams.com/video/qvY_dChxj0E/video.html if that helps.
I have an orbiter in the mail for my corexy
@@stillblankaf Where did you source it from?
@@FOXXX509 from an Australian company called Unique Prints (dot) shop, took like 2-3 days shipping
Good content! I would have liked to see you try and build one from scratch, sourcing/cutting the parts yourself vs a kit while following their guide.
I agree that would be interesting but not very relatable for most viewers. I have to strike the balance between entertainment and doing things viewers can follow if they want to.
@@TeachingTech That's true and if you think about how much this costs related to something like a Prusa its pretty similar and you get more experience with the whole process. (not that everyone wants that) Thanks again for the great content!
Try Voron one day
Damn that's an awesome project to get into. It's really quite expensive though. Wish I had enough disposable income to build a monster printer as this one. My Ender 3 v2 has a faulty board and I'm wondering if I can even afford that, so no big projects for me.
Where are You from? I have stock ender board V1 and I don't need it because I replaced it with MKS. If I'm not close, You can post on FB, I'm pretty sure people have spare board that they could give away
@@darekmistrz4364 Man I really appreciate it and this community is amazing but I'm mostly just venting, I'll be fine and I'd feel bad for taking something like that from someone I don't know. But I'm really grateful
As a very frustrated Lulzbot owner, I think this is my next printer.
The show stopper is definately the plastic elasticity dependent pulley mounting.
If i invest that much in a new machine, i would expect that ALL bolts/screws that have to cope with the forces of the belts are solely mounted on metal parts.
So for me this printer for that price is a no-go.
This wobbly disco build plate can possibly be used not only for bed levelling, but also for non-planar printing?
probably.
But slicing would be a nightmare :/
Will see what future brings ;)
The slicer would have to do some inverse kinematic type calculations, which I don't see happening anytime soon, unless a 3D print enthusiasts writes an add-on themselves.
@@jeroenritmeester73 agreed...
Nice, but I wonder about the degree of movement.
Some of the testers achieved more than 45 degrees on the bed without falling from the supports.
Amazing.
I recently got the non pro version of this printer and some work must have been done to remedy the issues listed, I had no problems in building the machine, installing the belts was tricky but but not that hard to do. when leveling the build plate choose auto and try to adjust the nut under the platform to bring the values in the table to as near zero as possible, turn the nozzle to raise the build plate if the value is negative. lower the build plate if the value is positive. At least This is what I did. I have tried printing using the sd card and found that the finish of the part was reasonable with regard to the test pieces supplied. Otherwise printing using Simply 3D and some designs not supplied by Tronxy the effects of stringing were apparent.
I do agree this is not a printer for the uninitiated.
Everyone talks about how coreXY printers are so much better but when mainstream you tubers gives their favorite printers for print quality it’s usually not one . I’m new to 3D printers.
Probably because most off the shelf printers are not coreXY. If you want to learn more about the pros and cons of coreXY I have a video: czcams.com/video/_ramiM3KHYE/video.html
Im here for the karate chops
The Lowrider 2 😁👍
I'd like to see the orbiter used. Not only an I thinking about getting one but I'm really curious just how clean and fast this thing can print dialed in with such a low weight extruder and hotend combo.
Great video. I've been wanting to build a corexy for a while. But you should have split it into separate videos with more details. For example, how did you choose which parts to use.
I could build it with eyes shut but the bit that worries me the most is all the electronics and computer stuff, my mind is mechanical driven by gears 🤭 I have to get me kids to sort out my phone at times, carnt wait for the next video, I want to get into printing but carnt make my mind up but liking the vox I think. 👍
Go for the orbiter super light weight and fast.
I almost gotten one the other day. But I ended up with the sidewinder as it is my first printer.
Once you've done a premium core XY, could you do a budget core XY? The Sapphire Plus from TwoTrees has some serious potential but has flaws out of the box. It would be brilliant to see what a budget printer with a few upgrades would be like compared to a premium printer.
Good video! However, Senna hoodie stole the show:)
Use the one that is the fastest and more efficient. I love this build. But the only thing is I think it's a bit expensive. But nice.
I had wanted to build a Voron 2 kit but seeing this has me curious. Personally I like the voron's design of leaving the bed completely stationary more but the independent controls are definitely an interesting design choice.
Same thought here, but seems like there could be some really cool things you could do if slicer programs can work with a moving bed like that. I like the electronics enclosure on the back vs at bottom of Voron. I was considering the Voron, but now seriously considering this one due to being able to order parts in 1 place and cost isn't much different.
Great video man. I'm tossing up between a rat rig or a voron build for my next printer. Are you going to give the voron a go in the future?
I vote Orbiter.
I am currently ordering a Ratrig 500.. note that the prices have increased since this video. If you order the exact same kit Teaching Tech did today, the total balance comes to 775 euro, not 629 euro.
Which and if any is needed lubrication are you using for the moving parts? Is the "Super lube" silicon grease or oil be good to use?
I wanted CoreXY kit (not full solution) for quite sometime and get this video. Hooray! Liked it and ordered on June 27. They said lead time 6 weeks :( O well I can wait. But more than 6 weeks past and still no delivery. Beware,
Can you suggest an extruder for my 3dp that uses inkjet printer parts (my latest 2 videos)? I'm new to this, but I've made cnc machines.
Orbiter since it's lightest
Nice Video! Can you share a complete BOM of all the parts you are considering? Both things sourced with Rat Rig and others sourced locally. I'm pricing my own build and don't want to miss any relevant pieces.
Excellent Video. I am wondering with the way the bed can move if non planar 3d printing is possible?
Mechanically it would be possible. The hard bit is firmware and gcode generation.
Any chance RatRig will offer up any coupon codes for those who want to order these to follow along with you?
Vector 3d is building one now, I think he has a 5% coupon code
Hey Michael! Any suggestions on sourcing the electronics panel for someone who does not own a CNC? I’m honestly stumped. Don’t know where to start looking