It's also the fact that this is the only shot in which you see him standing upright, without his customary slouch that made him look like he was carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.
We remember they once lived, the burden of this knowledge falls to the warrior of light, Emet-Selch's burden lifted and accepted by yourself, the player. Something we accepted and carry with us, a burden which for me personally, has grown into something enormous and impossible to really quantify, but something i am familiar with for irl reasons, but this burden perhaps will be released at the end of endwalker for our player character, don't know yet, haven't finished the story, but am getting there. Either way, the concept is quite interesting. And as the player character having a much more direct experience, that burden of knowledge is magnified for us far more than it is for our fellow scions, as the knowledge is distilled through words, filtered of the emotional experience that the player experienced firsthand.
@@BroadwayRonMexico SPOILER, IF YOU CLICKED THIS COMMENT ITS YOUR FAULT LOL . . . . . . . . . . . false, Emet has been long dead and does in fact know who you are, but the reason he made you fight him is the same reason you fight Her. It was all to prove that man was next in line to take the mantle as the amaroutines successors. The biggest giveaway was when you and Emet are taking alone and everyone is helping build that elevator to get you to Mt. Gulg. He says ‘Not like you would remember’ when talking about Amaurot giving you the option to respond with either ‘Remember?’ Or ‘What do you mean’ and Emet shakes it off. Remember the lesson our homeboy at the forum gave us and how memories flood back at the time of death.
@@thehsushoe He dies right here in this scene though. He doesn't remember us from Elpis until after he dies here, which is proven when we call him back at Ultima Thule, because he shows frustration at bidding us to remember when he was the one who had forgotten. He knows us here as a sundered Azem and that's all.
@@thehsushoe he said that because he knows you're Azem's fragmented soul, that's why you wouldn't remember your previous ancient life. And also, his line "I bid them remember, but all this time It was I who had forgotten, what a right fool you've made of me, Hermes." solidifies the fact that he's still "Kairosed" before this scene and why he helped us at 5.3
That acknowledging smile at the end. Why does this FEEL.. man. I'm mad but I'm not I feel sorry but I don't I feel bad but I don't I'm relieved but I'm not. I should be happy but I'm not. All this man- all of this.. and this is where we ended up. I just want to leave right now. But yes, yes I will remember...
This cutscene pulls at me a lot less seeing it from a lala PoV vs another race, with how he's looking downwards at the lala vs straight through the monitor at me when he gives those final words + smile.
I don't know what's worse, the fact that nobody bothered to point out how you're wrong in these two years or that 80+ people agreed with you despite you clearly being wrong. Wild.
Mind you, this is the ONLY TIME in Shadowbringer that Emet Selch isn't slumped on himself. (A little bit leaning forward) It's the only time he ever stand upright completly. A weight was lifted from his shoulders.
He died. And thus was able to reclaim his memorys altered by Kairos back in Elpis. Thats why he told US to remember aswell. Because he just understood who we were..
As Emet Selch dies, so does the influence from Zodiark's tempering fade. He can finally accept the end of the ancients. This helps me to reconcile his behaviour from before, on one hand trying to groom us to succeed him and on the other holding us to an impossible standard and declaring us unworthy of existence (the influence of Zodiark).
Emet finally dies happy, realizing that a physical manifestation of the Ascian civilization isn't required, but simply being remembered and not forgotten by those who came after.
It seemed Emet-Selch wanted to die but was waiting to find someone that was worthy of carrying his burden (if not by literal resurrection then by keeping their memories alive). I could be way off the mark but it seemed to me he basically told us (or at least hinted) as much several times. Emet-Selch started off as just an obligatory villain to me but quickly became one of my favorite characters in the game.
Endwalker did make me appreciate Shadowbringers more from a story perspective. Story wise, 14 has felt like it's had the best FF story since at least FF11 Treasures of Aht Urgan expansion for me at least.
WoL: I promise. Your story will not end here, nor will it die with you. I'll make sure everyone knows and everyone will remember long after my friends and I have returned to the Lifestream.
In my eyes, he wasn’t exactly my enemy. He wasn’t necessarily a bad guy either… he just wanted his home and friends back. He saved Y’shtola from the aether, and he taught us a lot of different things too throughout Shadowbringers. He accompanied the group many times, and these are probably why everyone got so attached to him. He even saved us during the fight against Elidibus aka Warrior of Light. He’s the only Ascian that I have any sympathy for… In the end, all he wanted was to be remembered..
Because he's a good guy. From his perspective all wrongdoings he did made sense - he served a greater good, not only for his friends, but for everyone. In his position I would have probably attempted the same.
This hurt me as bad as losing a certain Elezen friend in HW. Emet was such a great character and it was pity we had to kill him. He wouldn't see reason.
@@Beamin439 As a lalafell player its a mixed bag. Sometimes its extremely goofy, they do go overboard with the expressions a lot and it doesn't help if you have a stupid glamour either. But sometimes like this scene there's a contrast that makes it serious, your character which is super goofy, expressive and cute suddenly acts Stoic and serious creating a kind of mood that makes it feel more impactful because of the context that your character is not normally like this.
I assume people who make comments like these don't grasp the concept of an underdog story (The Hobbit, Secret of NIMH) or ever read a book with a young protagonist in their lives (literally every YA novel to exist) and I can't help but just feel sorry for them. Stick to your bimbo catgirls sweetie, wouldn't wanna hurt your brain too much now.
@@ginger-ham4800 bimbo cat girls is ironic considering your whole "underdog" cope. not to mention your pfp LOL buddy is offended because i suggested his child character that he dresses up sexually might look silly in cutscenes :( youre not an underdog youre a pedophile :)
Getting towards ff14 endwalker now and I see shadowbringers was this games sole one hit wonder when it comes to story telling and villains. I've got a few weeks until my sub ends and honestly I'll get as far as I can before I cal it quits. I want to end on a high note and the rest of ff14 story has been meh up until SB and after it. Unless they hit it out of the park with Dawntrail and it's storytelling I don't think I'll be coming back.
Anyone else just rewatch this sometimes to remember?
to... remember.. damnit i’m crying again 😭😂
Yes
It’s burned in my mind…
It's not something you forget anyways. But, it's a good reminder nevertheless.
He was the best villain in the game I like him more then fandaniel he’s to goofy and crazy unlike emet was more serious and sassy
"I bid them remember, but all this time, I'm the one who had forgotten" -ES
"A right fool you've made of me Hermes" love the delivery on that line lol
Those two were so amazing. I Once heard someone say guild wars 2 has a better story than FFXIV. Not in a thousand millennia.
I choose to interpret this as three separate lines.
1. Remember (your former life).
2. Remember us (being friends).
3. Remember that we once lived.
jesus youve made me feel even more anguish
@@nabilm.c.6705 More anguish than remembering that there won't be another villain like Emet?
@@proudlarry8225 we dont know yet...
5.3 just raised even more questions for that
Now Endwalker is here... I think you're right
IT'S THE FACT THAT HE FUCKING SMILES AS HE ASCENDS.
LIKE HE CAN FINALLY REST AFTER BEARING THE WEIGHT OF HIS WORLD FOR A MILLENIA.
It's also the fact that this is the only shot in which you see him standing upright, without his customary slouch that made him look like he was carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.
We remember they once lived, the burden of this knowledge falls to the warrior of light, Emet-Selch's burden lifted and accepted by yourself, the player. Something we accepted and carry with us, a burden which for me personally, has grown into something enormous and impossible to really quantify, but something i am familiar with for irl reasons, but this burden perhaps will be released at the end of endwalker for our player character, don't know yet, haven't finished the story, but am getting there. Either way, the concept is quite interesting. And as the player character having a much more direct experience, that burden of knowledge is magnified for us far more than it is for our fellow scions, as the knowledge is distilled through words, filtered of the emotional experience that the player experienced firsthand.
He already retired and didn't want to be back.
Elidibus was the one that forced him back.
* Emet-Selch fades away into nothingness *
Alisaie: *SO ANYWAYS*
When you've played Endwalker and now fully understand what Emet had in his mind when he said that... HOLY SHIT.
Well, it wasnt on his mind, since he couldnt remember you from Elpis yet. He *might* have remembered you by the time he showed up in 5.3 though
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false, Emet has been long dead and does in fact know who you are, but the reason he made you fight him is the same reason you fight Her. It was all to prove that man was next in line to take the mantle as the amaroutines successors. The biggest giveaway was when you and Emet are taking alone and everyone is helping build that elevator to get you to Mt. Gulg. He says ‘Not like you would remember’ when talking about Amaurot giving you the option to respond with either ‘Remember?’ Or ‘What do you mean’ and Emet shakes it off. Remember the lesson our homeboy at the forum gave us and how memories flood back at the time of death.
@@thehsushoe He dies right here in this scene though. He doesn't remember us from Elpis until after he dies here, which is proven when we call him back at Ultima Thule, because he shows frustration at bidding us to remember when he was the one who had forgotten. He knows us here as a sundered Azem and that's all.
@@thehsushoe he said that because he knows you're Azem's fragmented soul, that's why you wouldn't remember your previous ancient life.
And also, his line "I bid them remember, but all this time It was I who had forgotten, what a right fool you've made of me, Hermes." solidifies the fact that he's still "Kairosed" before this scene and why he helped us at 5.3
@@ragneue That's all I've been saying.
At this point we could not forget even if we wanted to. This story changed everyone who heard it.
That acknowledging smile at the end. Why does this FEEL.. man.
I'm mad but I'm not
I feel sorry but I don't
I feel bad but I don't
I'm relieved but I'm not.
I should be happy but I'm not.
All this man- all of this.. and this is where we ended up.
I just want to leave right now.
But yes, yes I will remember...
Hello fellow endwalkers. Had to revisit this again huh?
I couldn't forget...
How can I forget… when he was also human T_T He’s such a good character
I have. Much better than Venat betrayal.
Emet represents Stagnation at its ultimate
Fighting for the past instead of the future
While also showing its greatness and importance to oyu
Not quite.
He fought for his people. While the WoL fought for its people.
Sometimes there is no villian, but irreconceliable differences.
ES is easily one of, if not *the* best written antagonists in a videogame. This sendoff was perfect as well
That is going to be a ballin tattoo
HOLY SHIT SO THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT
This cutscene pulls at me a lot less seeing it from a lala PoV vs another race, with how he's looking downwards at the lala vs straight through the monitor at me when he gives those final words + smile.
I don't know what's worse, the fact that nobody bothered to point out how you're wrong in these two years or that 80+ people agreed with you despite you clearly being wrong. Wild.
@@ginger-ham4800 Either you're unable to see the head tilt difference, or you're just a lala enjoyer, but in either case I'm sorry for you.
@@tciddadosHey coming back another month later just to let you know your right.
@@ginger-ham4800 It's always the fucking gingers
@@tciddadosi will let you know rn that i hate lalas
the funny grape when they've removed it in Endwalker
Every time I cry. EVERY TIME! :'(
MAH HEART. MAH SOUL...
Powerful words are forever remembered.
Mind you, this is the ONLY TIME in Shadowbringer that Emet Selch isn't slumped on himself. (A little bit leaning forward)
It's the only time he ever stand upright completly. A weight was lifted from his shoulders.
I cry even more now after endwalker 😭
He died. And thus was able to reclaim his memorys altered by Kairos back in Elpis. Thats why he told US to remember aswell. Because he just understood who we were..
Remember that Venat betray them. Remember that the Calamity could have been avoided if she didn't hide the information of it coming.
dam this still gives me the chills
I'm not crying, it's raining 😭
AND MY FUCKING HEART SNAPS IN HALF
This shit hits so different now 🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧
This scene has always hit different.
As Emet Selch dies, so does the influence from Zodiark's tempering fade. He can finally accept the end of the ancients.
This helps me to reconcile his behaviour from before, on one hand trying to groom us to succeed him and on the other holding us to an impossible standard and declaring us unworthy of existence (the influence of Zodiark).
Emet finally dies happy, realizing that a physical manifestation of the Ascian civilization isn't required, but simply being remembered and not forgotten by those who came after.
Tear actually slipping out of my right eye aside, omg that's a cute lala
It seemed Emet-Selch wanted to die but was waiting to find someone that was worthy of carrying his burden (if not by literal resurrection then by keeping their memories alive). I could be way off the mark but it seemed to me he basically told us (or at least hinted) as much several times. Emet-Selch started off as just an obligatory villain to me but quickly became one of my favorite characters in the game.
Endwalker did make me appreciate Shadowbringers more from a story perspective. Story wise, 14 has felt like it's had the best FF story since at least FF11 Treasures of Aht Urgan expansion for me at least.
WoL: I promise. Your story will not end here, nor will it die with you. I'll make sure everyone knows and everyone will remember long after my friends and I have returned to the Lifestream.
Why am i crying for an enemy >:,c !!!!! :c
In my eyes, he wasn’t exactly my enemy. He wasn’t necessarily a bad guy either… he just wanted his home and friends back. He saved Y’shtola from the aether, and he taught us a lot of different things too throughout Shadowbringers. He accompanied the group many times, and these are probably why everyone got so attached to him. He even saved us during the fight against Elidibus aka Warrior of Light. He’s the only Ascian that I have any sympathy for… In the end, all he wanted was to be remembered..
Because he's the actual hero to his people, a people he can't save without becoming the villain. Among other many complexities of the character.
Because he's a good guy. From his perspective all wrongdoings he did made sense - he served a greater good, not only for his friends, but for everyone. In his position I would have probably attempted the same.
The moment you realize the villain isn't actually the villain.
downloading endwalker HYPE
DFFOO players on the day before eos
He said he was going to "expunge your stain from history's weave" prior to the battle...
Me: I'm sorry, you are....? and I know you from...?
Look... doesn't his soul reside in the crystal thing and we never actually see his crystal...
This hurt me as bad as losing a certain Elezen friend in HW. Emet was such a great character and it was pity we had to kill him. He wouldn't see reason.
What all the Australian players be like to their FC's before they leave for the Oceana DC
bruh how do you people get immersed and take this game seriously playing lalafells lmao. literally kills these scenes
I feel the same about all races other than Hyur.
@@Taitai7 me too but mostly lala lol I see people crying during cutscenes like bruh your character is in third grade fighting gods it's comical
@@Beamin439 As a lalafell player its a mixed bag. Sometimes its extremely goofy, they do go overboard with the expressions a lot and it doesn't help if you have a stupid glamour either. But sometimes like this scene there's a contrast that makes it serious, your character which is super goofy, expressive and cute suddenly acts Stoic and serious creating a kind of mood that makes it feel more impactful because of the context that your character is not normally like this.
I assume people who make comments like these don't grasp the concept of an underdog story (The Hobbit, Secret of NIMH) or ever read a book with a young protagonist in their lives (literally every YA novel to exist) and I can't help but just feel sorry for them.
Stick to your bimbo catgirls sweetie, wouldn't wanna hurt your brain too much now.
@@ginger-ham4800 bimbo cat girls is ironic considering your whole "underdog" cope. not to mention your pfp LOL
buddy is offended because i suggested his child character that he dresses up sexually might look silly in cutscenes :(
youre not an underdog youre a pedophile :)
Getting towards ff14 endwalker now and I see shadowbringers was this games sole one hit wonder when it comes to story telling and villains. I've got a few weeks until my sub ends and honestly I'll get as far as I can before I cal it quits. I want to end on a high note and the rest of ff14 story has been meh up until SB and after it. Unless they hit it out of the park with Dawntrail and it's storytelling I don't think I'll be coming back.