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- Scottie Pippen gives Tracy McGrady a hard time about Tim Duncan possibly joining him on the Orlando Magic, saying the duo would have needed Grant Hill to win a championship.
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Lol Tmacs whole career is literally a "what if"
- What if he was drafted by the Lakers
- What if he stayed on the Raptors
- What if he didn’t get injured during his prime
- What if Tim Duncan signed with the Magic
This is what happens when a player end up at the wrong organization. Your career can be mismanaged
D Nice no Tmac left Toronto cuz he wanted his own team nd he was in Carters shadow. Then he said the weather is too cold. Lol. He went to his home town but Ghill was injured they would of had a 3rd wheel if he was healthy. Houston injuries was a prob nd couldnt pass a playoff round. Management was never a problem in his case, Pippen is right they NEED Grant
What if the Raptors drafted Steve Nash in '96 (instead of Camby)
What if they never hired 2 of the dumbest & antagonizing coaches in the 90's: Darrell Walker, Butch Carter
What if Grant Hill doesn't break his ankle
What if Yao Ming doesn't struggle through an injury plagued career
TMAC had a lot of what ifs -- but all he had to do was stay in Toronto; a major city with good fans, young team with a good draft & trade history (Stoudemire, Carter, Camby, TMac in first 4 drafts, with Doug Christie & Davis through lop-sided trades) and the other superstar is family...... too bad.
Management and coaching were the problem they made no moves after aquiring hill and mac they let mac burn himself out
Doc rather sign his son lmao
For 12 million a year. lol
Top Dog that’s a bargain don’t know why everyone gets on Austin he’s not bad
Idiot, in this market you have people like Tristan Thompson making 20 mil a year. Chandler parsons with 100 mil contract. It’s not a bad contract at all. Don’t think a bum scores 16 ppg while shooting 40% + from 3 lol. Just saying a guy who’s nickname is “big baby” flamed him is a joke. Don’t think big baby is in the league rn lmao You clowns eat up anything the media dishes smh
The Great Rudini All facts 💯
+The Great Rudini Austin Rivers was a bum. Complete garbage and his dad gave him a contract and playing time and allowed to develop. You give any d-leaguer that change and they'll get better like Austin.
I’m throwing hands at doc if I’m Tracy 🤣
Kevin Mumphrey hahaha
Would have been Duncan and T-Mac vs Shaq and Kobe during those Lakers 3 peat years.
david will dumb ass doc rivers
If that happened magic would of took a chip from them.
Mark Lap not a chance lol
Mark Lap it would be interesting tho. But nah...
Vinnie Huish Im sorry, but I seem to remember a certain team from San Antonio winning over LA in the playoffs...And winning a chip. T Mac was an amazing player. If Duncan would have been on the Magic, no he wouldn't have had Pop, but is that really what made Tim Duncan? Are we not gonna give the dude himself credit? T Mac was a scorer on par with Kobe at that time. They very easily could have taken one of them from the Lakers. T Mac was hella clutch too. 13 points in 33 seconds, against the prime Manu, Timmy, and Tony years to win a game. Dudes a hof player for fucks sake!
Tracy been crying all week, first they tell him he couldve played with kobe and shaq and now they tell him about Timmy. Poor guy lol. Still had a great career but couldve been special
m1084 tmac never played why is he in the hall i dont get it
never played what? if you mean basketball your on the wrong channel
He was special, and still is special. And same goes to D.Rose. Injuries and health issues are an irreversible bitch to the physical and psychological state of mind. Your overall quality of life takes a big hit, and even if you do bounce back from it, you're still not the same old, but at best, a sightly lesser version of what you were.
HOF is a joke. So many guys who are in there for winning scoring titles on teams where they were the only option on offense. Never even play in the finals. I love Grant Hill but come on. Did he really have a hall of fame career? Did T-Mac have a hall of fame career? If Vince Carter ends up in the HOF I’ll laugh.
m1084 also his rookie year they wanted to trade him for pippen he would of played with mike
So between losing Shaq and Duncan , for essentially the same reasons, the Magic missed out on maybe 2-4 chips. Now that's dysfunctional.
Magic so messed up
NY Knicks have entered the chat group... Worst upper management eveeer😊
That was a noob move doc
Kyrie Irving Chris smoove that’s a murder
Shot Clock Cheese!
😂😂😂
Give this guy a manual! What are you doing?!
doc rivers was leanin
RIP to Doc Rivers and his NBA card
WHY? Doc has a title and 2 Finals appearances.
Emmanuel Enyinwa nah FUCK doc and his bum split eye looking ass
Thibs defensive schemes and the Celtics talent (KG) is what won that finals. Doc is trash.
Gucci Lee hahaha IKR. Next time he gets to the arena, security just takes his badge, rips it up, and escorts him back out.
Gucci Lee true that Thibs was so underatted it's not even funny. KG was also the true MVP of the celtics in 08.
So 1. Tmac missed being drafted to Kobe and Shaq lakers 2. He could've stayed in Toronto with VC 3. Missed playing with grant hill cause of injures 4. TD very nearly goes to Orlando 5. He got traded the year Orlando drafts Dwight Howard and 6. He dealt with injures as well as Yao Ming in Houston. I love Tmac but he has the worst luck possible in history
Jerrick Ward this is what happens to a great player if he has bad luck. Sometimes you're really good but your career is mismanaged.
The worst luck possible is Greg Oden and many more.
Jerrick Ward 7. He almost won a chip if ray Allen didn't make that corner 3 in 2013
2 and 5 were his decisions. He wanted to get away from Toronto's organizational dysfunction in 2 and for 5. He got tired of losing and didn't want to go through a rebuild.
And he could’ve played on the Bulls with MJ but MJ axed that deal
TMac has every right to be genuinely upset about this. What a blunder that changed the course of NBA history for the last 15 years. I don't care if Duncan had a posse of Bloods and Crips he wanted on that plane with him, if that's what he wants, that's what he gets. This wasn't some scrub making demands, it's a once in a generational player and quite possibly the greatest power forward of all time.
No he doesn't....
Quite possibly the greatest PF of all-time. Bro... by the time Duncan was in his mid 20's he had already secured that place... firmly.
Tmac act like he never played with hof b4
Right at this point Timmy was coming off a NBA finals averaging 31 and 14 and was at his peak before his meniscus tear
@Adrian Flores you crazy, as much as i kg, he's not on Duncan's level. Every match up they had timmy always won.
T Mac and D Rose going neck to neck for the leagues unluckiest players
Sareen Sidhu Adidas players that wear #1
Gotta put GH, Penny, Len Bias, Bill Walton, Ralph Sampson in that convo
Dennis Galabo nah
agreed
Brandon Roy
Damn Scottie's wrist is icy
Dikembe Mutombo I been thinking same thing
Dikembe Mutombo i hear yo bro
Dikembe Mutombo That's nothing special it comes with the game
Giving you a thumbs up just because you Dikembe
Tmac's watch icy as well
@1:55 T-Mac had a "nigga what?!" moment 😂😂😂
Anyone notice Scottie watch shinning
shakeem robinson Watches shouldn't excite men
maybe its just you.. but give me any of those bling blings anytime of the day. ill gladly accept it.
@Raul Salazar someone call the fire department 😭😭😭😭😭
T-mac book coming out and its titled
Are you serious bro!?
I would definitively buy it out of respect but never read it
Lol
Hahahaha subtitled "No, no, no... seriously?!?"
I remember tmac joined the spurs but lost to the heat then next year he retired then spurs won the title so unlucky 😆
😆😆😆😆😆😆
Mayne McGrady has to be the most unlucky hall of famer ever! From his health to his team's and what could of been wow.
Gregory Edwards he should've been a champion with the spurs. My favorite player growing up.
Jason Darrell to think he was tasting that that ring only to watch ray Allen hit the greatest pressure shot ever.... really the unluckiest player ever right to his last game. Smdh
Gregory Edwards for real. Guy was a same level scorer as kobe in his prime when they were competing. Great player
@@jasonredhorn87 knowing the competitive nature TMac had, he wouldn't have accepted that ring. He said in an interview that if the Spurs won that chip, he wouldnt acknowledge himself as a champion. He would be a champion in record books but of course, TMac without the injuries is a really great player. He'd feel like a champion by pity.
Everytime I see legends speaking bout their past, I can listen all day long. Gives me goosebumps. Grewup in the 80’s and 90’s and those players built dynasties. Hardwork and sacrificed. Little different now might I add😂🤣🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
I'm surprised this is news, I thought everyone knew Duncan was about to sign with Orlando back then.
people who were born before 95' maybe but the rest of us dont know of these deals
Did pop mention that before?
Everybody mentioned it lol it was on ESPN for like 3 days straight. He went down to Orlando to meet with the team, even stayed an extra day, but ultimately ended up resigning with the Spurs. That was one time Pop came close to losing Duncan.
Yeah that had a funny story to it because he did go down to Orlando to check out the team and he did like it but he ended up resigning with the Spurs because he loved the culture he told pop I'm going to leave to Orlando and pop almost cried then Tim Duncan said nah I'm just kidding I would never leave and that was the day pop almost died lol
everybody knew they were close to sign him but dont know it was because of the plane policy from doc
Scottie @2:15: "That egg didn't hatch, so... we can't say." That is a classic Pippen sound byte right there.
Tim Duncan was the epitome of what a teammate should be in the locker room. Good people Good People, that guy. :)
Damn Mcgrady really wanted by one of the best tho. U can see on his face and the way he talks about it just like about the Kobe thing. An all time great talent Just couldn't get enough luck.
think what occured..they blew a 3-1 lead and then in 2004 they went 21-61 lol...t mac hated his time in Orlando...
Tim Duncan was a 3 time all nba first teamer with a ring and a finals mvp at that point wtf LMAO!!!! That maybe in the running for dumbest move in NBA history... Dumber than the Harden trade for sure
Well harden hasn’t won shit so yeah passing up on a top 10 player all time is unthinkable.
1 Of The Watchmen yeah they got Kevin Martin who at the time was pretty good. Let’s not act like his debacle in the 2012 finals didn’t play a role in his trading either. Anyways, ibaka is who they should’ve moved in hindsight
How is that playing a role in his trade being stupid... Me stating things that actually happened is apparently me trying to make harden seem trash too lol foh he’s a well known choke artist as great as he is
The Great Rudini Why you so triggered at the mention of Harden LMAO
How am I triggered? Nothing I stated was false...too many dumb asses in one comment section
Tim Duncan is the biggest “what if” in NBA history. He only started hooping cause a hurricane destroyed the swimming pool. Dude wanted to be an Olympic swimmer. Now he’s 1 of the best if not best power forwards in NBA history.
Nah man, Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway are biggest what if.
@@rano2613 uh-hem… what about Len Bias?
T-Mac: What did you do when MJ left?
Pippen: I went West!
😂😂😂
Scottie Watch was flashing the camera at 1:57 yeah that's money fam
Chris Ringer Watches shouldn't excite men
Mr. TIME BOMB! What ?
Scottie broke as fuck though. No secret that he pissed away all of his millions within a couple years of retiring. Brilliant basketball mind, but the rest of that mind never left Podunk, Arkansas.
mike s Stop making up shit stupid ass! Scottie's networth is somewhere in the range of 50-60 million dollars.... maybe you are confusing Denis Rodman with Scottie....either way get your facts straight before commenting
Lmaooo has to with how t Mac hit him with huh
Vince Carter and T-Mac should have stayed together in Toronto. They could have become one of the best dynamic duos of all time.
Yep, no sympathy for T-mac because he chose to leave a winning situation. Should have stayed put with VC and made it to a few finals at least.
The Raptor coach is not using him right though..
They are not even in the duo talks in TR..
Yep. They easily would have made the finals in one of the following 2-3 years.
Not to forget they are cousins
This is the Carter two ball hoggers dont work out plus they're related
man i'm so sad for t-mac
Samuel Teixeira why? He's still a HOFer, People won a ring but didn't make the Hall of Fame.
Me too TMAC deserves more respect I feel he's still underappreciated lol
don't be..
i dont...had he accepted playing with his cousin both their careers would of been special..kobe accepted playing with Shaq for 8 years...these 2 played 1 legit season together past t mac turning 19 aka getting playing time being mature for the game and then t macs like im out
Tmac and Duncan vs Kobe and Shaq would’ve been epic
major L doc hahahahahahaha
Timmy with T Mac... They going to the finals.....No question ..Back when tmac was a beast.
I love this show...bit of banter, but always respectful and with good fun...t mac, pip always good to see...keep it going!
Those two could have won championships.
Theman tim duncan did anyway so idm
Nah no way without Grant Hill....Kings, Lakers, Blazers, Pistons, Nets, Pacers were all stacked in early 00s....C`mon Prime Scalabrine and JKidd
Theman they need Grant Hill lol
Tim Duncan didn't even need another all-star during multiple times he won rings. Most notably in 2003, when he took one of the weakest teams ever to a ring; dismantling the Shaq/Kobe Lakers virtually by himself in the process.
@@Turk_2023 you must be kidding right?
1:57 DAMN my boy scottie shining !!!💎
Mac left carter to sign & in hopes play to with grant hill with the magic only for doc to reject Duncan's fam...damn 😂
Amazing interchange! Funny! Loved it!!!
Scottie was like “ yeah y’all could’ve did somethings 😂 just not beat us !!
They were done by then anyways 😊
Doc Rivers needs to be retrospectively fired for this absolute balls up. Like for real, is this the most stupid decision in NBA history??!
Thomas forde The Knicks had a chance to get Kareem but they let him go to the Lakers. So there's the other contestant for dumbest move.
PRIME Tmac and Duncan = championship holy cow
@Adrian Flores they could edge it out, remember that the early 2000's, Tracy was considered the most versatile SG, pair with TD, a guy that should've won atleast 2 DPOY's, was the only player i know besides hakeem where he held his own against Shaq.
Duncan, T-Mac AND GHILL, don't forget. IF those 3 were injury free, they could've won at least 1 ring.
@Adrian Flores Bruh, TD has shown that he can take on Shaq defensively and dominate him offensively. Kobe is a better defender than Tracy, but Tracy edges him out in offence in my opinion. It would have been a great battle, but having arguably the greatest defensive player ever on your team would have given Tracy a definite 2 piece
Good energy with these two, Pip and T-Mac.
Wow 2 of my favorite basketball players of all time. Scottie and T-Mac
In some alternate universe Tracy McGrady at Tim Duncan would have been a force to be reckoned with. I agree with Tracy when he said they could have made it to the ship without Grant Hill. The Eastern Conference was a very weak back then. There were awesome players like Allen Iverson but they were no Greek teams.
Pistons were a great team from that era in the East. They destroyed a team with Prime Shaq and Kobe on it, to go along with Karl Malone and Gary Payton. Basically a superteam.
What?! How can you deny the greatness of Tim Duncan to your team..
Look at that light flashing off Scottie’s watch 💎 Matches the flannel pj look 👀
I'm here for Pippen and I want to be as calm and chill as this legend.
This comment aged poorly. Dude became a drunken rant machine on live tv interviews.
Pippen has never been a dominant first option like McGrady. It's amazing how history changes perception of certain players.
I don’t get what pippen is saying. Tim Duncan almost left in 2002-2003. Those Mj bulls were gone. It would have been Kobe/Shaq vs TMac/Duncan. That would have a been one hella of a finals but all we got was Nets vs lakers
Pippen clearly isn't thinking very clearly.
Thank you Doc ❤ #
Love TMac he is so true and smooth as he was on court.
Doc rivers should be fired from the NBA for ever
Hebrew Israelite or hired by the Knicks, whichever is worse.
The Knicks?! that man has a family yo.
Rodness _ he made over 60 million coach n player he's good n he paid his son
T-Mac, Duncan, and Grant Hill
That is a solid Finals contender, only a shame that injuries and Doc's idiocy took over
by summr of 04 they had za za bogans giricek and deshawn steveson so ..it worked out wrll2 for them lol....Jesus Christ..no wonder why the magic from 2000-2007 sucked hard
That “HUH??” after he started leaning back. Lmaooooo. He knew it was on after that
😆 lol I love interviews like this
Scottie and TMAC bromance
You seen how Tracy got up “ what, what you say” Tracy would’ve dropped 45 with Tim
I mean considering Tims 03 season give him Tmac they come out of the East for 5 years straight. Would have made for fun finals with Tmac v Kobe and Shaq v Timmy. But as a Spurs fan I'm more than happy with how things turned out.
Thank you Doc 😁
just made doc rivers stock go down 30% after this
Doc should have just bought Duncan his own plane
Anyone who didn't get a chance to see Mac play in his prime has no idea at how breathtakingly easy he made the game look. He was my post M.J. favorite player.
My 2 favorite players ALL TIME talking shit.I LOVE IT....pip N t Mac the best
Steve Ballmer has to be thinking, "This is the genius I let manage and coach my franchise?"
Also, Scottie in his PJ's
The most amazing part about this is you’ll never know how many times this has happened to their teams like I’m sure there’s a thousands of times shot like this happened
1:53 Loved the friendly jab here
You know for a guy that won six championships Scottie Pippen sure acts like he doesn’t know jack shit about basketball. Tim Duncan 5 championships and his two best teammates Tony and Manu are going to the Hall of Fame because of him. He basically carried them to championships. He and Tracy in their prime are winning multiple championships. They did not need Grant Hill.
dbreiden83080 and at the end of the day it all comes down to coach pop and his system the year Duncan retired they still won 60 games the New Jersey Nets and the Detroit Piston still would have been going to the finals even if Duncan was with the magic
dbreiden83080 I agree but grant hill would've guaranteed the rings
krlm2280 T-MAC had the Pistons 3-1 BY HIMSELF !!! w/ a WASHED UP SHAWN KEMP !!! if he had DUNCAN they would have been in the FINALS almost EVERY YEAR!
dbreiden83080 bruh Scottie was saying that because T Mac was injury prone and also Shaq And Kobe at that time were unstoppable so no I think he knows what he’s talking about.
He was not injury prone until he got to the Rockets and still balled there..
They still would have had to get past a prime Shaq and Kobe to win championships in the early 00s.
Tehui1974 stop.
With those 2 together, if they worked well, it was possible. There was a lot of discord towards the end of the Shaq and Kobe era. The Spurs beat them in '03, the Pistons were able to do it in '04 and the Kings nearly did so as well in that controversial series in '02. After the 16-1 run, they weren't so unbeatable anymore.
Tehui1974 yeah, but a prime T-Mac and Duncan could’ve been a problem for them.
Well Spurs did sweep Lakers in 99' sooooo.....
Duncan obliterated the Shaq/Kobe Lakers in 2003 virtually by himself. Give him a true superstar to partner with like McGrady and it's wrap for the Shaq/Kobe Lakers.
They did play together in 2013, and were minutes away from winning a ship
thank you doc rivers!
-spurs fan
I'm definitely thankful he screwed the pooch on that one lol we should make that day a holiday in San Antonio and call it "Doc Rivers appreciation day" lol
Scotty wearing pajamas.
John M Flores and 6 rings
Sure. And Michael Jordan wears dad jeans.
Timmy D and T Mac definitely would’ve gotten to the finals at that time
How the Magic don't have a title is unreal. They've had some super stars on their team.
I gotta agree with Pippen and T-Mac on dis conservation....#Facts
T Mac n Timmy D on the same team in the east. Would of won a damn championship , or at least make it to the finals. Be forreal
T-Mac should have given PIPPEN a hard time about that shirt!
Dam Scottie timepiece shining
After Kobe retired, him and Tmac actually did an interview together and was talking about what if they were on the same team together since they have been close friends for a long time.
if tim duncan went to that team they would have been the best team of all time
flee gang
No
The New Jersey Nets team with Jason Kidd RJ Kmart Kittle's would still made the finals and the Pistons would have still been the top team during that era
flee gang You're high...
They would have had a chance to. I think most people will think this is crazy, but how crazy is it really? Duncan never played with another true superstar. I guess you could argue for Leonard in Duncan's final seasons, but Duncan was 40 years old then. The point is, Duncan won 5 rings, and should have been 6, with a cast of characters that I would venture to say even Jordan wouldn't bring to those 5 rings.
Chris Webber should be in HoF. Why is Tracy even in tbh he was a regular season player like Chris
I agree C Webb should've been in hof already but he n T Mac wasn't just a reg season player.
Chris never made it to the finals. . .
3 Time First Round Exit you mean wcf ?
IMO, Webber is not a hall of fame player. In your opinion, why do you think he is? There were consistently 3-4 power forwards better than him when he was actually in his prime. With the Kings, experienced former players-turned commentators, poked holes in C-Webb's game, stating that he didn't have a go-to move, nor enough offensive moves on the low block. He was a fantastic passer, and a good ball-handler for his size, but he did not possess the mental prowess/toughness to lead a team to the title...the evidence? He never did. The NBA HOF puts good players in and not just elite players, so he will probably get in...but undeservedly so. The standards should be raised, but looks like they are being lowered. Losing in the conference finals a time or two doesn't mean you should get in the HOF.
T-Mac is debatable as well. But, he was an elite scorer at one time. He was compared favorably to Kobe, but beneath all the showmanship, Kobe was actually a lot more fundamentally sound, and mentally, McGrady can not be compared to Kobe. T-Mac led the league in scoring a few times, and I think he was all-NBA a few times. He maybe should have been a candidate, but should not have gotten in in his first year of eligibility. First year eligibility should be reserved for cats like Kobe, Duncan, Lebron, and even Steph. Theses guys are all time greats and multiple champions. Non champions should not get in in their first eligible year....period.
Facts all day 💯
Yo Scottie pippen 🔥🔥🔥
Duncan>Kobe
Foh never
Inm Mmmh Yes
Lol
Nope neva
Jesus Christ easily
scottie pippen comes on shows just to find another way to throw shade at Jordan, 30 years later and hes still petty lol
J Johnson what shade?
J Johnson truth is tho without pippen there is NO Jordan
Tracy said huh what you say and pippen insightful immediately knowing where t mac was going
This is awesome
Pippen went West! LeChoke will never go West. He will take the easy way staying East
I thought I'm the biggest LeBum Hater...I can't find any videos to pour on my daily dose of hate...But you..somehow...hahaha !!!
Whatever western conference that LeBron would (hypothetically) join immediately makes THAT team at least the 2nd-best in the conference, pure & simple.
Omar najeeb He should join the Kings then. Lmao
this comment did not age well at all....hold this L fam
hahahahaha
Doc Rivers is the worst gm ever… lost tim Duncan.. Over family trips.. Then gives his kid a contract to play with the team.. Lost Chris Paul for austin rivers.. Thank God danny Ainge was there in Boston.. Even with 3 h.o.f players he only won 1 chip there too… over rated as a coach and a terrible gm.. Great dad thou
Tracy bro I'm speechless
I definitely remember this. Orlando was gonna be big with those 3 but ended up not amounting to much.
Pippens funny, if McGrady and Duncan on the same team, holy fuck, they would rape the NBA, younger kids don't know how powerful Duncan was! Everyone used to wear his jersey, Duncan was a beast, and McGrady was a God, omg if they added Grant Hill back then, they would go 82.0 lol, for real
Even during that time, people didn't appreciate Duncan, mostly because of his personality and him playing the game fundamentally and not high flying.
Thank you Doc as a true Spurs fan! LOL!!!
Like I said to someone else we should make it a holiday in San Antonio and call it "Doc Rivers appreciation day" lol
I like how respectful they both are. Like that coulda got ugly.
One of Scotty’s rocks about blinded me
Doc legendary fumbles continue
Scottie's green shirt is AWESOME! I want one.
Damn I love Pip
I love pippen
Pippen I love your shirt.
Good duo
1:57 daaaaamn Scottie’s diamond shinning 😂
hahahaha! i love how Rachel laughs