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Thing that impressed me the most about this season was when they had the jury come back and do a confessional saying what they were looking for at final tribal. Fantastic editing choice and needs to stick from here on out.
They used to do a similar segment in the early seasons like Pre All Stars
I was surprised to see that as well but I really liked it tbh
they did it Gabon I remember
Yes I loved it
Itâs because there is no Ponderosa đ€·ââïž
What I loved most about this season was the balanced edit. Every jury member got bare minimum 20 confessionals, and the last five episodes in a row had at least one confessional from everyone still in the game. Seasons work best when we get to hear everyone talk about their gameplay and strategy, both good and bad, and Iâm very glad the editors made sure everybody was showcased.
Totally agree. I wish Ghost Island was edited this way. Sooo much that cast shined whenever we got to see them, but we just... didn't :/
The fact that this season managed to be so good despite the terrible format, tells you one thing: Trust. The . Cast.
The main thing I loved about the season were the different storylines and character arcs that were told.
Mike and Maryanne are two completely unique archetypes and are incredibly complex for an edited reality show. Mike is a tragic character that is in denial about how he sacrifices his personal values until a realizes what he did at the end. Maryanne has a coming of age story that needs to learn to be yourself in order to succeed. Look at the parallels in the way she responds to Jeff addressing her in the premiere and before the FIC to see her growth.
The downfall of Vati was fun and even hinted at with Jenny talking about the fracture of the tribe. Rocks and Toriâs rivalry was hilarious and it seems fitting that neither could come out on top with neither voting the other out. The Jonathan/Lindsay rivalry was also a compelling part of the late game. Romeo âfreeingâ himself and being a queen maker at the end was heartwarming, too.
There were so many character driven stories that I probably missed, but thatâs why I loved this season so much (probably in my top 10)
I agree with you
Funny I hate all the sob stories with the sad Katy Perry filter and pianos. AUS survivor better, the cast is actually TV worthy
@@TrackMasterAsh Iâm not really referring to the flashbacks. We can see the development play out through the actions and confessionals that they show
@@TrackMasterAsh aus survivor has lots of those though (and generally worse casting imo)
Yeah, I was definitely surprised by how much I liked this season in the end. I think having such a fantastic cast really drove it towards the top of my tier list as well; it wasn't a one man show, the vast majority of the cast had interesting story lines, to the point I had multiple people I was rooting for to win as opposed to being all in on one player.
The Romeo rice-eating montage was by far the funniest thing of the whole season!
YES I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THAT đđ
I like the "idea" of a reunion on set in Fiji. I would just prefer if the final 3 got 1-2 hours to take a shower, decompress, eat accept what just happen. It was hard to watch Mike be very quiet seconds after finding out he didn't win.
I still loved watching this season. It was fun, cool and refreshing.
Yeah, like maybe they do it the next day so they can sleep it off
@@rileynielsen1597 i support this idea
Fully agree, I like that the players canât try to rewrite their journey but itâs just jarring and weird when itâs literally minutes after the season ends. Though I do think we miss something with the cast not having seen the season, thereâs not really a point to having players talk about events that they havenât even seen yet.
after the meh 41 was I wasn't expecting 42 to be much better with it being the sister season, but this cast. The cast made the best of basically everything that was sent there way. Plus I think the editors learned from 41 of focusing too much on stuff that at the end of the day didn't matter.
Also it was nice to see the winner before the merge hit.
The hill I will absolutely die on is that the no rice "twist" is bad. It's just bad. Even with rice the players will be hungry, but giving them nothing and then having sparse food rewards means that they have much lower energy -- physically and mentally. It's kind of sad to watch and also...not as interesting? From what I've seen over the last two seasons, it seems like this extreme hunger leads to a lot of paranoia, anger, and petty conflict, which doesn't necessarily equate to good TV. There is enough interesting conflict when players have a base level of food. It feels similar to many of the other new twists in that the producers are trying to create grounds for conflict or interesting TV when, if they just let the players do what they've been doing for 40 seasons (with of course adjustments and gradual new twists from time to time) the show is always going to be good. People are just that interesting anyway.
Honestly I agree, I donât really think the 26 day thing justifies it. Johnathan was fighting for his life those last few days lol (jk)
ya at minimum it seemingly robbed lydia of her bubbly personality which is not the move
Challenges were definitely worse. Even challenge beast Jonathan rarely performed better than average, because you know, everyone was starving more than usual.
Totally agree.
literally it makes me not want to watch sometimes because watching people be ill is not fun
I LOVED that they included the jury confessionals to help us understand what would make them vote for each finalist. It was honestly a shocker and a highlight for me. I hope they continue to do it.
Also this season was so pretty. Those final jury confessionals we're compositionally beautiful
Yes! This was a great choice đ
I thought this season was great! The only problem I have is the overemphasis on gimmicks like the shipâs wheel in the pre-merge, Iâd rather have more character development
they also should have emphasized Applebeeâs more
@@haydenhouts Well of course
From somebody who has watched them all, this was legitimately such a fun season. Hugely memorable cast! Everybody playing so hard. Memorable tribal councils. And a well deserved winner to top it off! This season surpassed my expectations and Iâm so thankful that Survivor can still do that!
You know what a cool season would be? Twist screwed, you bring back players screwed by twists and go back to a single tribe immunity idol as a twist and no others.
And of course Cirie would have to be included
I hate that everyone keeps suggesting advantages should be kept to only one idol per camp, like I understand not liking advantage-geddon. But like, let there be a couple other advantages in there to change up the game, otherwise I feel the result will end up being boring. I feel as if the game has evolved to a point where stripping nearly everything will cause more issues then solve problems
Or a season with popular players voted out in the pre merge (I could see Jenny and maybe even Swati in it)
42 is a Top 10 season for me - Having rewatched every season fairly recently, it just felt so fun and fresh, the cast feel so much more dynamic compared to 41, and having an extremely likeable winner is a great help. The biggest thing is those comedic moments you montaged in the video - They are the little moments I'll remember for years to come.
Only issue - There was a maze in the logo but no giant maze challenge this season, Jeff explain. Explain Jeff! Explain!
Made it half way through this season and quit survivor. Winners at War was the last good season.
Iâm still so sad Jenny got voted out, I feel like we lost out on a really intelligent and cool player
she needs to come back for second chances
Honestly bizarre how we hear constant complaints of Jonathan fans and yet they all got over his loss by the next day meanwhile there are still tons of people who arenât over Jenny going out premerge
@@4pfcarti792 do they invite people back if they are are a pre-merge boot?
@@corksauls9403 Johnathan fans I feel had other motivations in supporting himâŠ..
@@user-pr5hh1rh4y a few times
This was really a good season start to finish, with most of the problems being issues this season shares with 41. Overall this is definitely a top-half season for me, in the 15-20 range
You're totally right about this season's lightheartedness. This season is in my top 5, with Pearl Islands, Gabon, Heroes vs Villains and Nicaragua. Maryanne is my favorite winner since Sandra.
I love the cast and the editing!! I feel like every single player had their story told. Hopefully this becomes the norm.
Maryanne...ughhh. to each their own
@@miragexl007 I started the season and accidentally saw who wonâŠI almost couldnât believe it, but most of the contestants are as worthless and annoying as she is. Typically, the only one there that would actually survive on his own didnât win. Maybe if he was a âperson of colorâ heâd have won.
i would definitely put 42 in my top 10 seasons. i hope cbs submits this season for emmy consideration as it is such a bright spot for the show in its new era especially
Season 42 was pretty much everything that was wrong with 41, but corrected. It really does come down to the cast. This cast for 42 was amazing, worlds above the 41 cast.
17:00 the juryâs reactions make me tear up a little bit :â) it was so incredible to see how much they genuinely cared about each other!!
I wish they would hide idols at challenges again.
I'll say it until someone acknowledges me: Do or Die should turn into Plinko with the safe players placing either safe or hazard spots. It allows for strategy for people like Chochran who know about the bell curve probability of dropping and can use it to their advantage. Plus it's more visually interesting than Box Time With Jeff.
No, no more nerd games.
Back to basics! Back to Survival island theme. Building a fire is part of that.
My wife and I have only seen about half the seasons so far, but she put 42 as her number one season, while I put it in my top category that I'd watch again/recommend without reservation. It's a strong season to be sure.
You touch on it a lot given the similarities to 41, but we've talked about how this season is really made by the cast and the editing. My wife actually suggested that the editors were doing an experiment of their own, seeing what style of edit people responded best to, while trying to keep the seasons as samey as possible!
As far as the Beware advantages go, I LOVE the idea, they just need more ways of triggering them than saying a weird phrase. I loved the "have to reach into a tube of red paint", and am thinking about past advantages that involved sneaking out in the middle of the night... that sort of thing!
The fact that Maryanne didnât annoy the tribe enough to vote her off during the first few episodes makes her deserving of the $1M đ€Ł jokes aside she had a great final tribal this is in my top 10 seasons of survivor
Drea and Jonathan coming too a head but then finding a bit of understanding during that one tribal was one of the better âoutside the gameâ moments, simply because it showed both sides (implicit bias vs calling someone a racist) and resolved that misunderstanding, and then both players were able to move forward with respect and love to each other. I enjoyed that much more than the repeated LONG conversations that place during 41, especially because we didnât get to see both sides of the coin there. The rest of the review really matched my feelings on the season, this was one of the better ânew ageâ seasons so far.
The slap sound effect when Jeff hit the tree caught me off guard and left me laughing for a little too long
Absolutely loved this season. Maryanne has such a unique winners edit and her endgame was awesome to watch đ
Omar was the star of this season. Hope he gets a comeback
This season was honestly epic! I was extremely worried after 41, but this cast was absolutely one of my favorites out of every survivor season. Each and every one of them came to play and would love to see a lot of then back.
Applebees part. Mike can be heard at the start of the challenge saying "I love apple bees ". I laugh every time I hear him say it. Just something about the way he said it.
The way that I didnât think Maryanne would make it past the merge and she ended up taking it all.
Facts I wanted to root for her but people called her annoying and she seemed like a obvious first or second boot
I have watched Survivor since the beginning. In the old Survivor they had challenges where they ate horrible foods and really seemed to struggle. Now they mostly swim out and get puzzle pieces and put puzzles together then go eat rewards that are fit for a king and talk about social issues in their lives etc. There are too many immunity idol's. The winner seems to win more by luck than skill. However season 42 was an improvement over 41.
The âAmbuhâ bit at 7:40 is pure gold thank you
i would love to see who you think could come back for another season. Like a whole cast with all the other seasons not just 41 and 42.
the best way to compare 41 and 42 is the way the POC problem happens.
no offence to Shan, i speak as a Shan fan, but a black alliance pissed me off, it was taking a factor outside of the game and putting it in and making it your dominant alliance. It was a strategical decision on her part to create it.
In 42 however, Drea and Maryannes moment when they both played the idol was not a strategic game plan, atleast, not completely. They noticed a trend, and decided to stop the trend. The way it was handled was phenomenal, them using it to make sure it couldnât be seen a strategic decision, cause they couldâve played the others to make them feel guilty and vote Tori. But they idolled her out.
41 forces this darker tone as this was someoneâs integral strategy (love you shan, but itâs true), while 42 acknowledges what happens, and letâs the season continue.
I hope this makes sense, sorry if it doesnât :)
Iâm just glad it seemed like everyone was having fun at the final like 8. Iâm always here for the T, but sometimes itâs just nice to see fun things.
Iâm so glad there wasnât a Shan like player this season who is so bitter they kind of just ruin the vibe of the entire season
That monkey run scene with Jonathan was one of my favorite survivor edits. I laughed for so long and make references daily đ
I have watched them all as they aired and while I prefer the 39 day model, this was an excellent season despite some of the sillier twists. I love this cast; they were group of people who loved the game, recognized what a privilege just getting to play it truly is and who left everything on the field. It was joyful. Every boot left with class or great humour. That final tribal was sensational; watching the jury realize that their perceptions of Maryanne were way off was delightful. Mike might have won if he'd risen to the challenge and owned his game as I truly don't think this jury had decided before FTC but it would have been an uphill fight as Maryanne came prepared.
I am sure we are going to see some of this cast again; Jonathon, Lindsay, Mike, Omar, Drea, possibly Tori (her facial expressions at every TC had me in stitches) and from the pre-merge, maybe Jenny.
I would say we may also see Hai again, he had a lot of memorable moments and had really good early gameplay
I really liked this season and this cast, even Rocksroy and Tori. Even the pre-merge boots. And I love that Maryanne won, I thought she was a bit too much at first, but she really grew on me, and she killed that final Tribal Council speech. I was also really happy that Romeo won that last challenge, because I kind of felt bad for him being so on the outs, and I'm really happy he got to have something he could really be proud of.
This was one of my favorite Final Tribal Councils ever, since every jury member was respectful to the each of the Final 3. This is especially surprising, since Romeo looked like the typical Final 3 member that gets ridiculed and mocked by a person that couldn't even get that far (or maybe it was because there truly was no obvious winner out of any of the Final 3, so the jury could be completely unbiased).
TL;DR: 42 is fantastic, and it's now my (personal! opinion!) seventh favorite season of all time.
I don't think this is even recency bias speaking given that I've just recently rewatched a lot of my upper-half seasons, but 42 is solidly in my Top 10. I currently have it at #7 out of 42 seasons, and it's for all the reasons you've stated.
Excellent editing from start to finish, less drivel from explanation purgatory on all the new advantages and twists, and a cast that played ruthlessly, messily, yet all with a smile on their face at the end of the day, and they all seem very close in real life. As you said, the cast makes the season, and I felt it most especially with this quirky, imperfect, yet gutsy group of strangers.
Maryanne, for me, is an all-time winner in terms of sheer personality and character. Regardless of what you'll say about her gameplay - which is, quite good enough, and if she makes it to FTC, I don't doubt she can win against most people - you can't deny that her being this loud, boisterous, weird, and unabashedly enthusiastic superfan is a winner we'll remember for a long while. I love her so much, and I really believe she still has untapped potential for a return. She's so unique and unlike any other player or past winner, and I think Maryanne is understandably the star and the light, happy-go-lucky thread that keeps this season together.
The endgame, while predictable in some aspects - especially with the big threat stretch all cannibalizing each other from 8th to 5th, was still entertaining to watch. And why was it entertaining to watch? BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY KNOW THESE PEOPLE! Something 42 did correctly that I feel 41 was done dirty on was the editing. 41 was the Shan Show, and nobody's going to argue that, but it's unfortunate that it was because 41's cast is also quite strong. 42 wasn't just the Maryanne Show, or the Omar show, or the Drea show. It felt like an ensemble cast that we got to watch target each other and fumbling secrets along the way. The whole season was, like you said, FUN. It was light, it was cheery, and even in its darker, more serious moments, I paid attention and truly CARED about these people. Your entire montage of underrated funny moments had me CACKLING from start to finish, and that's how I feel about this season.
People will disagree, but I truly think that 42 is one that'll age like fine wine. Just the right amount of production tomfoolery (even if it understandably angers us), with a well-balanced edit that showcased every positive - and negative! - quirk of most of its cast. I loved this season from start to finish, and I'm afraid now that I have insane expectations for the players (and the editors) going into 43.
I've actually cried of gob smacked happiness only a few times for who won at the end. I definitely cried for Maryanne. she is just so precious and she really turned it up at the end and totally was a Bada$$ at FT. So happy for her!
i just decided to take my lunch break later and watch this video now. peridiam makes you stop whatever you're doing and tune in lol
I really did like this season. I donât watch the episodes live but remember in season 41 forgetting episodes came out, this year every Thursday I was excited to see another episode. For the most part the cast was really likable (wanted Mike to win but loved Maryann as well) and thought the editing was done much better this season. Wish challenges would be edited as well and looking forward to seeing possibly Omar and Drea in future seasons as I thought they were the best players who went out for being too strong.
I came to look at your preseason ranking and find this!! Way to exciting!!
My favourite moment ( in which I laughed out loud) was when Tory goes âSo is everyone going for Lindsay?â And Johnathan just goes âyeah⊠So Iâm voting for youâ hahahaha his bluntness is comedic gold
"excuse me Mr. Jeff"
Iâve been waiting for this oneâŠTURN IT UP!!
Loved the cast, a lot of twists, many that I wasnât really a fan of, and some good drama and play styles. This season is easily top 15, and maybe top 10.
Great summary, as ever. Reminded me of how much I loved the pre-merge (and all the pre-mergers too). I'd put this at 13-14th best season maybe? Fresh, fun, well-rounded, great cast, and most of the twists worked. Thanks Peridiam!
I feel like weâre getting a bit out of hand with the advantages. It seems like there are more advantages than tribe members most of the time
They have to do something or it would be cancelled. If they keep the game the same a bunch of game bots will come in and know how to win everytime.
@@user-pr5hh1rh4y I mean I like survivor but if they need 1.5 advantages for every player then maybe the show shouldnât go into season 43
Few of the advantages were played and only a few were successfully played.
They are hard to keep track of, but mostly they don't affect the game directly.
@@mhill0425 yeah I agree that sucks. Iâd prefer one or two people from each alliance have a advantage. But honestly Iâm so deep in survivors butt crack Iâd take any shit at this point and justify it.
@@user-pr5hh1rh4y this doesnt even make sense lol people that watch survivor like strategic and social play they dont watch it for the zillion advantages
The editors delivered. The pace of the final episode was FIRE. The jury voice overs as they enter tribal. The opening of the final 5. Romeos immunity win. The editors delivered a master class season.
19:19 absolutely personally Iâd love to see sum of the more physical challenges make a comeback like kicking and screaming or the sand dug out challenge
42 so was so much better then 41 it was crazy, Yes the same bad twist are in it, same shortened season, a lot of those same problems but the cast was just better more interesting more likable, more focused on gameplay not external issues. The winner also deserved to win which helps
Was a better cast. But I don't think the winner deserved to win Is at all. One of the top 5 worst in my opinion as far as winners.
Honestly, I think I'd put this season top 10. I haven't enjoyed a season this much in so long, and Maryanne is one of my favorite winners in so damn long. I love it
I definitely would love to see the non vote eliminations to never show its head again.
Also I'd love to see both tribes attend trible from the beginning . One voting and the other silent like the jury
I really appreciated this review. Many people are heavily critical of the new era, despite the top-tier season we just got. I think this video spun a positive light on many of the advantages, editing changes, and cast bits of the season!
this was perhaps my.. favorite?? season?? it was amazing from start to finish and i love the cast SO MUCH! i do hope they back down with some advantages (and please give them rice again đ©), but pretty much everything else was incredible!
According to RHAP season rankings (voted by the fans):
1. HvV
2. Cagayan
3. Pearl Islands
4. Micronesia
5. China
6. DvG
7. Winners at War
8. Amazon
9. Cambodia
10. Tocanchins
11. Philippines
12. MvGX
13. Borneo
14. BvW
15. Panama
I personally believe I would rank season 42 either 10 or 11. Tocanchins is such a great old school season the the heart of Survivor's Golden Age of seasons so it's hard to take them out of the top ten. However I feel this cast is so well balanced I wouldn't be upset if it snuck into the top 10.
I spit my coffee when you said, âRomeo was there tooâ, with the arrow pointing at him HAHAHAHA
I agree with the reunion structure. HOWEVER i think it would be interesting for them to film the reunion like 1-2 days after the end of the game. Give the final 3 a day to eat and process what just happened and then fill the reunion at Ponderosa.
I like this idea. Plus if you donât send the pre merge boots home right away and have them stay somewhere near ponderosa it gives them a chance to be involved again
Just gotta say that was hilarious that Jeffs hand slapping tree in the intro matched perfectly
Hahaha the sound effect of Jeff putting his hand on the tree got me so good đ
i would rank it in the top 5 newbie casts for sure
Maryanne didn't win at the final tribal necessarily. I think a very under-talked about theme of this season was race. There was that crazy tribal where her and drea sort of bonded or whatever the hell happened there. It was then never talked about again and then she won in a landslide when mike was the clear editing frontrunner. Hate to say it, but she was always going to win after that tribal. The cast was among the most diverse casts they've ever had, possibly the most diverse (i cant think of more representation of various races/ sexualities and cultures) and mike winning this season just wasn't going to happen. He bumbled final-tribal somewhat but not enough to go from frontrunner to losing in a landslide whatsoever imo. Could be wrong about that.
This season is for sure a top 10 imo. Only things that werent at least very good to me were some of the new twists and stuff they kind of have to introduce 42 seasons in. I never blame someone for trying something new (at least too much) and if those are the only downsides of a season? Gotta be one of the best. I also think they had 10 characters that could easily be brought back and shine, with the normal number being like... MAYBE 4.
She had won before because of her moves and Mikeâs lack of admittance of being dishonest(the one thing the jurors wanted), but it was how she explained her moves throughly and had the proper theatrics(idol pull) to really emphasize her control at the end game. In the end, Survivor is a social game and honestly social and presentational skills matter more than anything
I still canât believe Lindsey got all the way through the amulet becoming an idol and then didnât even play it
Here me out
Survivor 45 heroes vs villains:
Heroes:
1. Sean (Marquesas)
2. Christian (DvG)
3. Davie (DvG)
4. Terry (Panama)
5. Malcolm (Philippines)
6. Michele (Kaoh Rong)
7. Cydney (Kaoh Rong)
8. Elaine (Island of Idols)
9. Maryanne (42)
10. Kellee (Island of Idols)
Villains:
1. Rick (EoE)
2. Dominick (Ghost Island)
3. Reynold (Caramoan; my hot take pick here)
4. Hai (42)
5. Dreamz (Fiji; this guy needs a second chance)
6. Angelina (DvG)
7. Shan (41)
8. Natalie (Micronesia)
9. Natalie (SJDS)
10. Chrissy (HvHvH)
Please survivor
Nat isn't a villain lol
I loved this season! I was rooting for Lindsay; I hope they bring her back for an All-Star season (they could bring back Jonathan too for some extra drama). They won't draw attention to it if they do, but I hope they give the contestants more food in the future, especially if they're going back to a longer season. It's not as entertaining watching challenges that last a literal minute because everyone is too exhausted.
Loved this season and your recap. Did you miss Ponderosa as much as I did??
this season is easily in the top 20.
I though this season was pretty fun. The only thing that I would change is the ships wheel island, I found it a bit annoying and just kind of unnecessary, I thought something like the amulet was cooler. The other thing was the shot in the dark was completely unnecessary to me because really it had no affect on any gameplay that happened. The last thing is the hourglass twist, it was annoying, unnecessary, and pointless. The do or die twist to me was just kind of meh. The complete luck aspect was annoying, but what I found annoying is that they got out if they lose.
Maryanne grew on me a lot this season. I started off thinking she was annoying and a crybaby, but as the season went on, she seemed to grow into her own character and really made out to be a fantastic person. I was rooting for her in the finals! I was super disappointed with this seasons final 3 because I completely hated Mike this whole season, (Iâll explain why later), Romeo was kind of a joke, and Maryanne was the only one there that seemed like she had a remote chance of winning. Mike came into final tribal seeming like he was going to win, but about half way through the final tribal I knew he had basically no shot. Maryanne gave an outstanding jury performance that was 100% deserving of 1,000,000. I was disappointed. I really wanted Lindsay in the final 3!
Onto Mike, to me he was my least favorite player on this season. He kept saying âI am all about trust and honestyâ and then lied to like 80 people. He was way to gullible and anytime he heard anyone say that someone was coming for him, (even if it was a lie), he immediately believed it. AND, he held grudges for WAY to long. He would always say âyou voted for me onceâ, even if it was maybe 6 trial councils ago. Like, GET OVER IT BUDDY.
All in all, I would say that this season wasnât a total disaster. It had its good moments and itâs bad moments, but ultimately it was a pretty decent season.
THIS IS ALL MY OPINION, DONT HATE ON ME FOR THIS PLEASE! EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THERE OPINIONS!
Also- I completely agree with changing up the challenges. I am SO sick of watching them stand for three hours on a little beam holding a ball on a small perch, or building a fish puzzle. Can we PLEASE get some unique challenges??
this season really showed that survivor is set to keep goin strong post winners at war. 41 was solid but 42 blew it out of the water
The water of mediocracy perhaps. This is another dark age for survivor
@@TrackMasterAsh lol I love trolls đ€Ł đ đ
I still canât believe the big twist for the merge feast was Applebees.
Awesome season, great winner , And always high quality videos made from you!
This season was so much better than 41. Fantastic season. Decent winner. I loved the reunion immediately after the votes, it was great to hear why players were swayed
This was easily the most equitable and balanced editing of a season especially after season 41 when so many unnecessary editing choices were made such as episode 3 as a whole, if they can easily edit out the nullifier from 42 why couldn't they edit out the sydney/brad/tiffany shipwheel trip which amounted to nothing? I'm glad they dropped the whole "hardest season" narrative too. The editing of 42 is what 41 should have been.
42 is a better season to show to casual or newer fans as its easier to understand whereas the gameplay of 41 was very complex and did not translate well into the edit, a lot of dyanmics were not fully explained such as why Liana and Xander didn't get a long (it was because he ostracized her) or just Luvu in general, specifically Erika's win was extremely ripped off in the edit which sucks.
Personally, despite the horrible editing of 41 I still liked it more but, this is coming from someone who likes seasons with darkness and negativity like 30 or 23. I don't really enjoy the kumbaya aspect especially when people like Hai and Drea were actually extremely bitter at Omar on ponderosa which we didn't get to see. I still think both seasons are better for me than all of the fiji era aside 37! Great video.
I think 41 got such an imbalanced edit because every single twist in the game was brand new AND extremely complicated AND most of them happened at Ua and Yase, so the editors needed to show the audience lengthy scenes of all that being explained, unfortunately leading to Luvu getting barely any screen time pre-merge. But for 42, the audience was already familiar with the beware idols, ship wheel island, shot in the dark, do or die, the hourglass, the punishments for losing, all of that. So we got to see more of the relationships and the stuff that actually makes the show what we love. I firmly believe that if you swapped the order in which these seasons aired, meaning the editors would have to edit them differently, we'd be having the same conversation where an alternative universe 41 was kinda rough while alternate universe 42 was pretty dang good. For me, it's the production's fault for being insecure about the shortened game so they threw way too many new twists into the season.
Idk, they didnât really need to spend so much energy on it tbh. They couldâve f.e. cut the ep 3 shipwheel island and nothing wouldâve been lost and explanations of the advantages couldâve been significantly shortened. Trust your audience, they wouldâve gotten the idea of each twist with like three lines of dialogue. Or, ykno, donât bite off more than you can chew.
Do a season rankings video!
The only twists that could be interesting moving forward are Shipwheel Island, for its interesting dilemma and impact on the players involved, and the amulets, for the interesting strategy and social dynamic it creates. The beware advantages have annoying phrases that even the players don't want to say over and over again. The steal idol/advantage Knowledge is Power just should not be a thing,since it opens the door for either hackable characters getting idols from likeable ones or, as of right now, does nothing. Do or die just does not work for a show like survivor that encourages social bonds and manipulation to win. The hourglass is an absolute waste of television time which should be switched to half the tribe winning and the winners deciding to take a couple people with them and the rest go to exile. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Sad we have no survivor tonight!
Definitley a top ten season in my book, and with time it may climb higher as I digest how incredible the cast and gameplay really was this season. Canât wait for season 43
I realize this is an old video now, but:
Honestly the fact that there were advantages we didn't even see, to me just confirms there are WAY too many advantages/rules/twists and whatever in the new era (41 and 42 specifically), the unbalanced editing (ex. we didn't even know Heather existed for way too much of 41), and the need for 90 min episodes. Both seasons had incredible casts!
I think they're slowly learning, as evidenced by 45 (I think 43 still had some very unbalanced editing), which to me had the best editing of new era so far - we got to see camp life, challenges, actual strategy and relationships from many different people - and the glorious 90 min episodes in which to allow them to do that. đ I feel like I really knew the majority of the cast, not just the "big" players/personalities. I do also wish we could go back to 39 days, but I know there's budget cuts and stuff.
And I don't mind the reunion being in Fiji, BUT I *EXTREMELY* want the final 3 to get some food and sleep first. Do the reunion in Ponderosa the next day, even. Give them a minute - it'll still be "raw" and "fresh" but at least they'll be able to process it for a second, and be clean and fed!!
This season was AH-MAY-ZING⊠since DvsG, I donât think thereâs been a season where I genuinely cared about the pre-merge boots. I was constantly at the edge of my seat with each episode because oh how much I genuinely liked all the players and didnât want anyone to go.
I was hella bummed when Drea got voted out BUT she got the Fan Favorite 100k so I ainât mad đđŸ
I caught that Bo Burnham reference you made đ
I see your point about the do or die but I disagree about âpeople getting their torch snuffed due to randomnessâ. Although it is a 2/3 chance youâre going home, itâs not random if you CHOOSE to partake in the challenge, and you know that you just canât be the FIRST one eliminated from the challenge. It leaves the situation up to interpretation for the players, and it comes down to making the right call for your game. If you donât need immunity donât even try, If thereâs a challenge beast on your season like Jonathan donât risk it, if youâre on the bottom go for it, if you think a lot of people are sitting out and you want a 1/2 shot at immunity and have confidence in the challenge go for it. It just comes down to how a player decided to approach the twist. Itâs a huge gamble and I think it works pretty well. Although i kinda wish it was a 50/50. 33% change at survival seems a little much
Iâm very confused about whether Jonathan and Mike were in on the extra vote plan to take out Omar. The episode made it seem like they thought Maryanne was with them to vote out Romeo and she turned on them. Was this not the case?
Mike pitched the idea to vote out omar to maryanne after drea spilled the beans aboit drea telling omar about her advantage to steal Mike's idol after she was voted out. Thats with the show. but with the hidden info that omar and Jonathan had an argument about the nullifier, we can assume that Jonathan told mike about the nullifier to mike, convincing mike that omar is a threat
The thing I enjoy about the fiji reunion is that we don't have to hear from the audience, children , or a past castaway (probable Boston Rob) and we can really just focus on the people that played the season. I do wish they brought the pre-merge players back.
Also I hat the fact that they have to "earn the merge" so ridiculous. The fact that they made the merge and then just through that away.
The thing I did like is they didn't do the twist tribal councils back to back like in 41 but I wish they could make the season like 3 days longer so we don't get a double bot in the first episode because I am not opposed to it after the merge as long as they are properly separated and aren't back to back
I hope that them completely editing out the idol nulifer tell them that they don't need to throw every single advantage in a game to have an amazing season. Speaking of advantages it took like 10 tries for the extra vote to actually be used and do something. If it takes that many tries for something to work how they intended then it wasn't a good advantage.
Your thoughts are pretty much mine. This season is top-tier for me, probably just above "David vs. Goliath". Probably the best season we've had since that aired, and from a personal enjoyment level, haven't had a season I've loved so much since the Cambodia/Kaoh Rong 1-2 punch.
That said, I do feel a bit bad for 41. As you mention, I think that season kind of got screwed by needing to have all the rules explanations, thus eating up show time and making it harder to connect with the case, since the twists and how they work were much more of the focus. May also partially account for the uneven editing of that season.
Love the total drama refrence. I would love a video conparing survivor and total drama kind of like what you did with survivor and big brother but it's highly unlikely. Anyways, prediam's the best
2 part reunions? Half on site questions then a live question answer for reflection?
By far my favorite season to date. I loved every second from the first tribal to the final. The jury was so well done for once, no egos in the way.
it was basically a remastered better version of 41 with a better cast (at least in my opinion) i hope that they switch things up next season
I really hate these shortened seasons, thatâs more of an issue to me than anything.
Itâs because thereâs more minoritys and they canât be bothered to stay the whole 39 days
Dude A+
Edit:To Add Jeff was the worst part of this season. First...he thinks his participation is really important, it is not. Second...when he yells "if you drop a ball you will think about this every night for the rest of your life" is super messed up.
7:57 you did them DIRTY
Recency bias definitely might have something to do with it, but I placed this season at 3rd in my overall ranking. I just really loved it from start to finish. Even aspects that I didnât like such as all the twists didnât upset me as much as they did last season. The cast was wonderful, the gameplay was exciting, and this season was really funny too! Itâs just a feel-good season and I can see it becoming one of my comfort seasons that I watch over and over again.
Fun fact: Only 5 Survivors to ever play are Canadian (including three on 42), and two won! Pretty good stats there :)
I actually really enjoyed season 41 so ranking 42 is hard because in a lot of ways, s42 was s41 with a different cast. I much preferred the s41 pre merge because it just felt fresher. With season 42 however the end game was one of my favourites, It was a great finale and the last 2 episodes before the finale were so good. The merge was great also, I think season 42 definitely benefitted from being aired after s41 as I believe the editing was a direct result of the response to 41. It was the one thing they could change and you can clearly see the difference.
Overall though I have loved this new era so far, casting is better than ever and I can't wait for the future :)
I rewatched this season and looking deeper into it itâs easily in my top 15 all time
Hi Peridiam! Have you played survivor orgs before? Just curious cause I'm sure a lot of the fans would like to spec your game one day. đ
Despite some twists and gimmicks falling flat or amounting to nothing, this is one of the best modern seasons on the strength of the cast alone. Iâll never stop appreciating their joy and lack of bitterness in all the final boots. There was respect and camaraderie. Omar and Mike could have easily won any other season. Itâs rare to have so many great social strategists in the same place⊠but Maryann nailing final tribal was a beautiful thing.