Dude, I commented on another vid of yours a couple days ago because I couldn't believe you could get this done for cheaper than buying a new low end bass boat. I was blown away 100% and thought it was the coolest thing ever when you told me that it was done for under ten k. I'm a disabled veteran from Michigan so I've put a ton of time in fishing but could never get the bass boat I dream of on my budget. This summer I'm gonna follow your vids that I saved and have a go at building one. Thanks for the inspiration, this is really going to do me some serious good. N thanks my man. Take care
Dude you can buy a hell of a boat for under 10k lol. Alot better than a glorified 16ft jon boat. I get he enjoys doing this and is good at it. No knock on him. If you could do this under 1500 then it would be a better option. BUT 10k get real. You can buy brand new tracker with a 50 on it for that. 10k is insane.
From prior experience, I would say "no" to a manifold like that. Better to eat the expense and take all tubes to the main drain, so if something gets stuck in there, you can snake it out with a conduit fish tape later.
My only concern at the beginning of the video. Why is this your last John boat??? Please tell us your not stopping boat building. Your content has been amazing and so informative. My family has been saving up to start our boat build and your channel was the inspiration to get us started. Hope your not finished bud!!!!!💪
There’s a place here in washington that makes a sealed air chambered boat. I installed an outboard on one and the boat was the most stable boat in the water that I’ve ever seen. They are perfect for search and rescue. The company might have closed down. It was called bee safe air chamber boats.
Very informative videos for all to enjoy. If you have never restored a boat this is the best on CZcams hands down. Plus in his store is a complete list of everything you will need to get the job done. 👍🇺🇸😎
The boat prob had bench seats with foam, adding the cross brace and foaming it don't think it makes that much diff for weight. When you start adding 3/4" plywood now that's adding weight. These are flats boats so not something you want out where waves are going to comer the gunnel anyway. Thought this was pretty well laid out. Each person will persinalize their hulls, like we do for cars.
Great video. You've really taken it to another level. I'm not a fan of the manifold. It only takes a senko or something else to land in one of the drains to get in the manifold, then it's done. It's hard to drop something in one of those ports, but it will happen. The one in a million. We've all found a 4 1/4 senko under something in the boat that's swelled up to 8 inches and as big as your thumb. Your builds are great and hopefully they're inspiring lots of people. You've given me a ton of great ideas. I just worry about the manifold catching something that plugs it.
I don’t bass fish so I’ve never found a senko anywhere in my boat. Mostly dried up salmon eggs and corkies and spin-n-glos and some yarn and steelhead jigs lol.
This is the best video you've put on CZcams by far....I've been hoping you would go all out like this for a while. Well done. That layout is very similar to what I have planned for my 16ftr
Hey, Great vids and THANKS, I"m learning lots! Question: Why would you not use solid rivets for the side wall support framing? It would minimize leaks to virtually zero when used with marine epoxy.
When you pour in the foam and make your subfloors how are you allowing for water to drain down the prebuilt channels in the hull? I understand your drain tubes for the hatches but what about water getting into the foamed area? I have watched many of your videos but still am confused. Especially with one of your videos where you drilled into your subfloor and pumped the foam underneath.
@@TinyBoatNation thanks for answering this, For some reason I was thinking that the black garden hose was for draining water from under the subfloor, but now I think I understand it's for the hatches, and any water accumulating under the subfloor should still be able to drain out of the bilge hole in the back of the boat.
Have you ever tried using low voltage outdoor lighting wire.. Its available in 8/2, 10/2, 12/2 & 16 gauge.. And you can add wire connection grease as well to your connectors to help prevent corrosion as well.. just fyi
How do these bleed offs work? Are they just open hose to expose air to the foam? Or do you apply air to them or something? Thank you for this, starting my 2nd build soon
I have a polerkraft 18x60 open floor no bench seats I wanna rebuilt into the ultimate salmon slayer with a 50 horse outboard with a jet lower unit. I like some of your ideas although I’d be welding everything
Hey man, awesome video! What kind of grinder should one use to cut through aluminum welds on a 1756 Lowe Roughneck? Thanks in advance and your videos are more helpful than you know.
Hey buddy, like the content. If I'm understanding right I would be able to do the same with my 16' deep V sea nyph? Just may have to beef up the framing a bit I'm guessing. If you have any other videos on this that may help me out with design and layout I would really appreciate any input you may have.
Hello so recently I was given a free aluminum boat and It seems like the person prior to me didn’t take car of it to well. I just have a few questions on fixing the bottom of the boat where it looks like they “patched” it
Hi Michael, how much pour foam would it take (approximately) to level out the bottom of a 14 ft V Hull? I just want to make it flat. I know how I want to build it but I don’t know how much it will take foam wise. Thanks 🙏
Nice video brotha, but i think i missed the AWG size for the all your electronic connections. i think you stated 6 awg for the batteries but i didn't catch what you run for everything else . would 12 AWG work? also about how much pour foam did you use on that ? im trying to gather everything i need before i start the TB project . TIA
Do you have a video of its fabrication? I like the concept however can't quite make out how you create the attachments to the frame. Help would be appreciated. You have great ingenuity...Keep crafting quality boats. Peace!
Hmm... looks awesome, good work! I guess it's been a while since this build. Any idea how well the drainage still works? Ever any issues with leaves, dirt or other debris clogging any of them drainage tubes over time? I just picked up an 89 tracker pro tournament tx with a 50 hp Johnson, not sure if the motor runs or not boat is still missing some stuff, started on the bow an removed the rotted wood an replaced it with a piece of 3/4 marine and re-riveted a few broken rivets to support it... just started popping rivets on the mid ship today, hopefully get that all out in the next few days... the front foam was kinda dark in color but I was fully able to stand on it without any give or crumbling, the PO said he kept it in the water docked until they moved here 5 years ago... also trying to get into the left an right rear hatches the top alum you would stand on is bowed up towards the sky, not sure what this means but I plan to dig it out if possible and replace it...
Removed the center portion of my boat yesterday, I was shocked to see someone had already used a thick hunk of alum for the main floor, but didn't do the entire floor... for some reason they used wood for the floor infront of the console and under the 2 front storage boxes there... all of it literally crumbled in my hands upon removal... so pretty much have all that alum clean already except for a few pieces then still trying to figure out how the rear was assembled, my livewell sits rectangular long ways front to rear in-between the driver an pass seats so not sure if tracker made it that way or someone cut the main support to put it like that cause I can see from your videos that their should be a support there... sorry so long winded an that things didn't pan out with the other guy, today I picked up a transom saver rod, front an rear nav light bases, and some hardware to fasten the front casting chair base, total boat foam received, 12 gang fuse panel, carpet glue, troul, an some other stuff... can't find any pebble 24x48 gator skin in blk for the bow or any 20oz carpet for a decent price, once I get that I can start to pre assemble an move onto the wiring an motor... good luck to the winner of your build l, hope they appreciate the hard work you put into every boat you touch!
Bro I love this but I feel like alittle over kill on the foam but I understand why you did it I'm just looking at it in a future mechanic aspect when something g goes wrong lol
He used a lot of foam in this video, and he also used foam on the subfloor. He does not need to test it. One cu ft of foam supports 60 lb of boat weight with negative buoyancy value (e.g., fuel and liveweel does not count). I think the cu ft of foam used in this boat build can keep the boat floating and two people if the boat is filled with water.
Eeee Gad maintaining the main wire and just opening the insulation to then attach a wire for a light is great but twisting and just putting on liquid tape is BAAAAAAD. You should have soldered the wires. Twisting makes a nice mechanical connection but horrible electrical connection and in a Marine environment that's not good. An even better, though more labor method is to open up more of the main wire, bend it in half, use an uninsulated butt splice, slide shrink wrap over it, attach the other end to the butt splice, solder, use the shrink wrap. Butt splices and twisting to not make good electrical connections. SOLDERING DOES. Sure it will probably work but it will result in more resistance in the joint which equals heat and heat is lost battery power and lost power to the device being powered.
@@TinyBoatNation No problem. I'm a former aircraft and auto mechanic and now HAM radio operator/instructor/antenna builder. We use mechanical connections for strength and always solder for good electrical conduction.
new sub here im trying to get my non titled boat to title for my project on my channel. question i have is woukd stainkess self tapping screws work the same as the rivets
Had to stop watching. Sorry man. I know you are trying to make it so the average person can do it all. But there are reasons the average person shouldn’t do certain stuff.
Of course how poorer people builds their boats is wrong compared to the best way to do things. Doesn't mean they always are dumb, and don't know what they're doing. Most know exactly what they are doing with the small budget they have. This is a rich man's channel. I had to unsubscribe. I just bought a 15 ft jon boat n trailer for $425. I'm on a fixed income that barely pays for food, and utilities. Don't know how in the world I'm going to get a motor for it, much less spending thousands to make it better. I will have to do things on it the very cheapest way possible.
Dude, I commented on another vid of yours a couple days ago because I couldn't believe you could get this done for cheaper than buying a new low end bass boat. I was blown away 100% and thought it was the coolest thing ever when you told me that it was done for under ten k.
I'm a disabled veteran from Michigan so I've put a ton of time in fishing but could never get the bass boat I dream of on my budget. This summer I'm gonna follow your vids that I saved and have a go at building one. Thanks for the inspiration, this is really going to do me some serious good. N thanks my man. Take care
Dude you can buy a hell of a boat for under 10k lol. Alot better than a glorified 16ft jon boat. I get he enjoys doing this and is good at it. No knock on him. If you could do this under 1500 then it would be a better option. BUT 10k get real. You can buy brand new tracker with a 50 on it for that. 10k is insane.
Loving your attention to detail bud, great job with all of your projects, im addicted to your vids
Nice build!. Would like to see someone one day make a boat like this and sink it to see if the foam really works. Just to see if it worth the effort.
From prior experience, I would say "no" to a manifold like that. Better to eat the expense and take all tubes to the main drain, so if something gets stuck in there, you can snake it out with a conduit fish tape later.
Incredible, I'm hooked, building my own trailer now, ordering a ton of stuff to get ready for spring time build. You are amazing. Love It.
You made a stupendous job! Me and my friends send you Congrats from Brazil! I'll use this layout in my project.
Crazy amount of time in this ,THANKS .
My only concern at the beginning of the video. Why is this your last John boat??? Please tell us your not stopping boat building. Your content has been amazing and so informative. My family has been saving up to start our boat build and your channel was the inspiration to get us started. Hope your not finished bud!!!!!💪
There’s a place here in washington that makes a sealed air chambered boat. I installed an outboard on one and the boat was the most stable boat in the water that I’ve ever seen. They are perfect for search and rescue. The company might have closed down. It was called bee safe air chamber boats.
Very informative videos for all to enjoy. If you have never restored a boat this is the best on CZcams hands down. Plus in his store is a complete list of everything you will need to get the job done. 👍🇺🇸😎
after 10 minutes I decided to keep my alum V hull just plain simple and light.
The boat prob had bench seats with foam, adding the cross brace and foaming it don't think it makes that much diff for weight. When you start adding 3/4" plywood now that's adding weight. These are flats boats so not something you want out where waves are going to comer the gunnel anyway.
Thought this was pretty well laid out. Each person will persinalize their hulls, like we do for cars.
Great video. You've really taken it to another level. I'm not a fan of the manifold. It only takes a senko or something else to land in one of the drains to get in the manifold, then it's done. It's hard to drop something in one of those ports, but it will happen. The one in a million. We've all found a 4 1/4 senko under something in the boat that's swelled up to 8 inches and as big as your thumb. Your builds are great and hopefully they're inspiring lots of people. You've given me a ton of great ideas. I just worry about the manifold catching something that plugs it.
I don’t bass fish so I’ve never found a senko anywhere in my boat. Mostly dried up salmon eggs and corkies and spin-n-glos and some yarn and steelhead jigs lol.
You are an artist with tools! Amazing video. Your talent is awesome to watch. Thank you for sharing. By the way. Thank you for using Milwaukee tools.
Nicely engineered. Awesome!
They are called barbed hose connectors. Awesome build!
I think that you should build the most bad ass gheenoe of all time
Love this video...so much ideas for me to use on my build...thanks
Awesome! I love it! Thanks Brother. Stay Safe and GOD Bless!🙏🇺🇸
Crazy build brother, I love it.
sweet setup. looking foreward to the livewell and bilge videos.
Bump
Hello from Australia, love the channel 👍
This is the best video you've put on CZcams by far....I've been hoping you would go all out like this for a while. Well done.
That layout is very similar to what I have planned for my 16ftr
Great video, still working on my build. 😬
Such a clever Video bud well done amazing work and inspiring 👍🏻👌🏼
Hey, Great vids and THANKS, I"m learning lots! Question: Why would you not use solid rivets for the side wall support framing? It would minimize leaks to virtually zero when used with marine epoxy.
Thank you so much for your videos
jump; ok once is enough dont break my boat! lol good vid
They do make sealed pop rivets
nice work but I would like to see how you did the deck.... what material and how it was fastened
Interesting watch
Electric rivet tool. That must save soo much time!!!
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Hiya guys I love the show.. How can I become a member of TBN ?
When you pour in the foam and make your subfloors how are you allowing for water to drain down the prebuilt channels in the hull? I understand your drain tubes for the hatches but what about water getting into the foamed area? I have watched many of your videos but still am confused. Especially with one of your videos where you drilled into your subfloor and pumped the foam underneath.
@@TinyBoatNation thanks for answering this, For some reason I was thinking that the black garden hose was for draining water from under the subfloor, but now I think I understand it's for the hatches, and any water accumulating under the subfloor should still be able to drain out of the bilge hole in the back of the boat.
Very nice work. 👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Have you ever seen Cleco clamps? I think they would be very handy in your building.
Yes, I have some
Have you ever tried using low voltage outdoor lighting wire.. Its available in 8/2, 10/2, 12/2 & 16 gauge.. And you can add wire connection grease as well to your connectors to help prevent corrosion as well.. just fyi
Why is that?
It looks like you have much more foam one side which I’m concerned would tend to turn the boat over if flooded but I hope I’m wrong. God Bless!
very nice job !
Bro, why don't you start building whole boats? Your definitely good at it.
How do these bleed offs work? Are they just open hose to expose air to the foam? Or do you apply air to them or something?
Thank you for this, starting my 2nd build soon
I have a polerkraft 18x60 open floor no bench seats I wanna rebuilt into the ultimate salmon slayer with a 50 horse outboard with a jet lower unit. I like some of your ideas although I’d be welding everything
Do you clamp all your tubing???
if the order is made and sent to Indonesia how much is the price boss
Please restore another fiberglass boat like your skiff, I want to put an aluminum frame in one but don’t know how
Hey man, awesome video! What kind of grinder should one use to cut through aluminum welds on a 1756 Lowe Roughneck? Thanks in advance and your videos are more helpful than you know.
Hey buddy, like the content. If I'm understanding right I would be able to do the same with my 16' deep V sea nyph? Just may have to beef up the framing a bit I'm guessing. If you have any other videos on this that may help me out with design and layout I would really appreciate any input you may have.
Awesome vid bro!
Can aluminum burn the sheathing off the electrical wire and cause a fire?
what size and style rivets do you use for framing the deck?
i like the flotation foam , i don't like the unservicable wiring.
broooooooo amazing as always
Hello so recently I was given a free aluminum boat and It seems like the person prior to me didn’t take car of it to well. I just have a few questions on fixing the bottom of the boat where it looks like they “patched” it
Noob here, why wouldn’t or couldn’t you completely seal off each compartment and skip the drain hoses?
Hi Michael, how much pour foam would it take (approximately) to level out the bottom of a 14 ft V Hull? I just want to make it flat. I know how I want to build it but I don’t know how much it will take foam wise. Thanks 🙏
Nice
Nice video brotha, but i think i missed the AWG size for the all your electronic connections. i think you stated 6 awg for the batteries but i didn't catch what you run for everything else . would 12 AWG work? also about how much pour foam did you use on that ? im trying to gather everything i need before i start the TB project . TIA
@@TinyBoatNation awesome brotha and I believe I heard you say in the video that u used about 80 oz. of foam for the boat
How many Gallons of foam are taken?
Your dry hatch compartments look like they are built without any wood in this video. Is this a new design? Is there a video on how you create it?
Do you have a video of its fabrication? I like the concept however can't quite make out how you create the attachments to the frame. Help would be appreciated. You have great ingenuity...Keep crafting quality boats. Peace!
I have a G3 v14 guide and the bottom at bow flexes when i hit big waves and the rivets start to leak. Any suggestions on a fix?
Hmm... looks awesome, good work! I guess it's been a while since this build. Any idea how well the drainage still works? Ever any issues with leaves, dirt or other debris clogging any of them drainage tubes over time?
I just picked up an 89 tracker pro tournament tx with a 50 hp Johnson, not sure if the motor runs or not boat is still missing some stuff, started on the bow an removed the rotted wood an replaced it with a piece of 3/4 marine and re-riveted a few broken rivets to support it... just started popping rivets on the mid ship today, hopefully get that all out in the next few days... the front foam was kinda dark in color but I was fully able to stand on it without any give or crumbling, the PO said he kept it in the water docked until they moved here 5 years ago... also trying to get into the left an right rear hatches the top alum you would stand on is bowed up towards the sky, not sure what this means but I plan to dig it out if possible and replace it...
I have no idea
The guy I built this boat for was a dud.
Removed the center portion of my boat yesterday, I was shocked to see someone had already used a thick hunk of alum for the main floor, but didn't do the entire floor... for some reason they used wood for the floor infront of the console and under the 2 front storage boxes there... all of it literally crumbled in my hands upon removal... so pretty much have all that alum clean already except for a few pieces then still trying to figure out how the rear was assembled, my livewell sits rectangular long ways front to rear in-between the driver an pass seats so not sure if tracker made it that way or someone cut the main support to put it like that cause I can see from your videos that their should be a support there... sorry so long winded an that things didn't pan out with the other guy, today I picked up a transom saver rod, front an rear nav light bases, and some hardware to fasten the front casting chair base, total boat foam received, 12 gang fuse panel, carpet glue, troul, an some other stuff... can't find any pebble 24x48 gator skin in blk for the bow or any 20oz carpet for a decent price, once I get that I can start to pre assemble an move onto the wiring an motor... good luck to the winner of your build l, hope they appreciate the hard work you put into every boat you touch!
Have you ever considered welding the frame?
Hey Buddy, whats the calculated weigth added to a 12 ft v hull???
Bro I love this but I feel like alittle over kill on the foam but I understand why you did it I'm just looking at it in a future mechanic aspect when something g goes wrong lol
There's almost 4 other generations of framing. This thing is pretty old old. And you are right it is over kill
Hello, I am trying to figure how many rivets I should order. What would you estimate went into something like this?
Thanks in advance.
How much pour foam did you use on this project?
Are these just standard rivets or special kind and where do you get them out and the riveter
They were just standard, but you can get countersink rivets on our website Tbnation.net
Did I miss it or how did you secure the frame to the bottom of the boat?
1 1/2” rivets through the subfloor into the main frame
Why not just weld it? A lot of drill work but awesome nonetheless good job
Parabéns muito bacana
Guys you are fucking amazin! Regards from Germany!
It’s rusted and you left it?
Why don’t you do this on larger boats?
Airframer boat
How do you know it is unsinkable , have you ever tested ? Thank you
He used a lot of foam in this video, and he also used foam on the subfloor.
He does not need to test it.
One cu ft of foam supports 60 lb of boat weight with negative buoyancy value (e.g., fuel and liveweel does not count). I think the cu ft of foam used in this boat build can keep the boat floating and two people if the boat is filled with water.
What sized aluminum angle used 1x1 or larger?
1.5"
Jet drive power plant
👍🏼
How much would you charge to make me one.
did you make a sub floor for this boat? if so what material did you use?
@@TinyBoatNation thank you sir!
Eeee Gad maintaining the main wire and just opening the insulation to then attach a wire for a light is great but twisting and just putting on liquid tape is BAAAAAAD. You should have soldered the wires. Twisting makes a nice mechanical connection but horrible electrical connection and in a Marine environment that's not good. An even better, though more labor method is to open up more of the main wire, bend it in half, use an uninsulated butt splice, slide shrink wrap over it, attach the other end to the butt splice, solder, use the shrink wrap. Butt splices and twisting to not make good electrical connections. SOLDERING DOES. Sure it will probably work but it will result in more resistance in the joint which equals heat and heat is lost battery power and lost power to the device being powered.
@@TinyBoatNation No problem. I'm a former aircraft and auto mechanic and now HAM radio operator/instructor/antenna builder.
We use mechanical connections for strength and always solder for good electrical conduction.
THis is the last one i am going to do . ok.
Why didn’t you paint all of that bare metal before doing all of that hard work? I’d hate to see everything rust out from under you.
What kind of torch did you use?
Thank you.
how long does this take?
new sub here im trying to get my non titled boat to title for my project on my channel. question i have is woukd stainkess self tapping screws work the same as the rivets
Thanks
Why is this the last jon boat you are doing?? What’s next
Had to stop watching. Sorry man. I know you are trying to make it so the average person can do it all. But there are reasons the average person shouldn’t do certain stuff.
Of course how poorer people builds their boats is wrong compared to the best way to do things. Doesn't mean they always are dumb, and don't know what they're doing. Most know exactly what they are doing with the small budget they have. This is a rich man's channel. I had to unsubscribe. I just bought a 15 ft jon boat n trailer for $425. I'm on a fixed income that barely pays for food, and utilities. Don't know how in the world I'm going to get a motor for it, much less spending thousands to make it better. I will have to do things on it the very cheapest way possible.
Do what you gotta do, man. Just be safe.
Traitor.
How many gallons of pour foam did you you on the build?