DIN vs YOKE Regulator and Tank valves
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- Ready to buy your first scuba regulator? Check out your choices of first stages. It's din vs yoke regulator breakdown with Aitor.
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Whenever you decide to spend money on scuba diving equipment, you want to make sure you're getting exactly what you want. Learn about your first basic decision: din vs yoke regulators and tank valve connections. If you have further questions about scuba regulators, make sure to ask us in the comments below!
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Amazing video as usual !!!! 👏
Thank you so much 😀, you are the best!!
Thanks for the explanations!
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Weird Al makes some valid points
Hahaha haven't heard that one before
4 things sold me on DIN:
-Higher working pressure - more options for cylinders
-Easily adapt to Yoke
-Smaller footprint
-Nearly all cylinders are compatible with DIN, takes seconds to pop the valve insert
yep, big din fans over here. Thanks for sharing!
Great video thanks!
Thanks for watching!
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Love these videos. For me DIN all the way. If only because the yoke 1st stage is actually sticking out to the back of your head where the DIN is much closer to your tank. Those are nice and clean and make for great hose routing. Also in cold water diving yoke o-rings tend to blow very quickly. Never happened to me with DIN.
Great point! I always recommend DIN as a way to go, for safety and confort, also versatility. If someone wants to move forward to cavern, wreck or decompression dives, DIN is a must.
Haha challenge accepted. I've actually been searching for harlequin shrimp, with no luck. Let's hope my luck changes now that I got the pressure!
Hhaha same for me! last few dives no Mantas but that's gonna change soon, I can feel it!!
I prefer DIN over yoke/A clamp. Tried both but prefer DIN. Never used 300 barg tank tho ☺️
I also prefer DON over Yoke, is way safer. 300 Bar tanks are use in technical diving and the valve is a bit different, always DIN and also the connexion is a bit longer.
Also, you can simply dump your DIN regulators in water to rince out salt. (since there is a spring mechanism around / the area of the screw and oring.
Water + yoke regulators (without putting on the dust cap) means water will get inside.
Yeah, water inside the first stage is not good for the filter, plus if you don't use the regs for a while after getting some water inside, for sure the salt will create some corrosion inside.
Yoke is basically obsolete but still exists because people stick to what they know. Much like imperial.
(And, by the way: Free Tibet!)
And Yoke will be around for a long time, I think the majority of scuba tanks in many countries still international, but make sense to do the transition to DIN.
Free Tibet!!
I want those apeks for my sidemount diving too lol
jiji I love them, I have also a set of Dive Rite and MK25, so far XTX50 are my favourites.
@@AzulUnlimited Apeks do seem to have their shit together better than many other companies. It's like they looked at all the other designs, figured out what could be improved upon, and built the best version you can get.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Absolutely. They rock.
Ok thanks! But I have 1 question regarding the working pressure. As explained, yoke can go up to 230 bar while din can go up to 300 bar of pressure. With the din converted to yoke with the adapter, is the working pressure still remains on 300 bar or decreased to 230 bar now? A lot of vids I've watched don't elaborate on this part. Looking to buy my 1st reg here and I'm still thinking on yoke or din regs.
Hi there!
Wow that's a very good question, so when you use a DIN adapter in a Yoke regulator, the working pressure drops from 300 bar to 230 because what determine the working pressure is the position of he O-ring. Using only Din, the o-ring is place inside tank valve, all the way in; with a yoke regulator or connexion the o-ring the seal the pressure sits on the outside part of the tank valve, the contact surface is more expose than with the din connexion.... make sense?
Anyway let me know if you need more clarification and I can take a couple of pictures to show exactly where the o-ring sits in both cases.
Have a nice day, Aitor.
Got it! Many thanks Aitor for clarify it for me! Din reg for me then and get the yoke adaptor, as many dive center here in asia mostly use yoke I noticed. The apeks xtx50 is what I have in mind to buy and see you use it in your vid just solidify my confidence that I pick the right reg. Thanks again!
@@zahirulhafiz8065 Your welcome, the XTX50 is an amazing regulator, easy to do the maintenance, very solid, and reliable. . I have mine for over 6 years, tec diving, cave, and also on my Rebreather, I will not change them for anything else. I´m sure you will enjoy many many dives with them!
@@AzulUnlimited Cool! Thanks for sharing your experience using it.
Btw, earlier this year I dove in pulau Weh up north in Aceh. Next on my list in Indonesia is a tie between Raja Ampat or Labuan Bajo. If I'm coming to Labuan Bajo, I'll be sure to check you guy out 😉. Hopefully this covid situation clear out fast, I do miss diving in Indonesia.
@@AzulUnlimited Cool! Thanks for sharing your experience using it.
Btw, earlier this year I dove in pulau Weh up north in Aceh. Next on my list in Indonesia is a tie between Raja Ampat or Labuan Bajo. If I'm coming to Labuan Bajo, I'll be sure to check you guy out 😉. Hopefully this covid situation clear out fast, I do miss diving in Indonesia.
Hi. The way I see it; who cares!! As long as you have a regulator to go diving any regulator works. If you have a yoke reg and you go to europe just rent the din reg an go diving. If you normally don't dive tech, wrecks, high pressure tanks and dive only to have fun any system will work.
Also, I have seen divers using the yoke adaptor to be able to use their DIN reg in a tank valve for yoke regs and works great but I have also seen a diver use a donut to convert the DIN valves to joke so they could use their yoke reg. And he travels with it. He bought a pony bottle really cheap but had a DIN valve and he only has yoke regs. He bought a $4 insert (200 bar) and now he can use his regs in that pony bottle.
Regards and keep up your good and interesting work.
Hi there!
Sure, for a few recreational dives a year any reg works and with the adapter (for din to yoke) but for me even for that, DIN is safer than yoke... also the yoke regs hit my head jiijiji, din is more low profile but that's something very personal hahah.
There is absolutely no reason to buy a Yoke connector anymore. DIN and Yoke connectors cost the same on almost all regulators. A DIN will fit on any DIN fitting up to 300 bar, and can be adapted to a Yoke for a Yoke fitting.
A Yoke will fit on a Yoke fitting, or on a DIN fitting up to 232 bar using an adapter, but it will never fit on a 300 bar DIN fitting because it could result in catastrophic failure of the connector. Yoke isn't designed to withstand pressures in excess of 232 bar.
So if you're buying a new reg, you should care. Buy a DIN. It costs the same, is safer, weighs less, and is more adaptable. There are no downsides to a DIN connector, while there are plenty of downsides to a Yoke.
I have a yoke reg, will always buy yoke again. But I own an adapter for DIN tanks (the donut you even showed at the beginning).
I don’t understand why you’d say DIN allows you to use both types of tanks if you have an adapter which would be an argument against yoke. Yoke + adapter works just as fine.
I see another advantage on DIN regulator, it has less risk to get broken on an impact. And of course that you are responsible of keeping in good shape the o-ring, not all scuba dive centers have the o-rings in very good health.
Yeah that's true, with a donna you can solve the problem but happens to me a few times in Mexico, Red Sea and the Philippines that the operator have Yoke valves (no convertible) and the DIN only for 300 BAR, they where technical Dive Centers , and a regular donna is not long enough to fit on those valves.
I mean is weird and a really specific case but who knows, anyway I prefer DIN because they are safer and for polyvalent divers makes more sense... to dive in warm and cold water, overhead environments, technical diving etc.
Thanks for your point of view!
@@AzulUnlimited Yeah, the donut will not fit 300 bar valve. The screw in connector is deeper on a 300 bar valve than it is on a 200 or 232 bar valve. You will never be able to fit a Yoke connector to a 300 bar valve, because there would be risk of catastrophic failure of the seal if the cylinder were filled to 300 bar. A DIN connector will always fit, if necessary with a Yoke adapter.
Seems to me you just need to carry a small and light DIN "donut" in case they only have DIN valves where you're traveling and your reg is yoke mounted... Wouldn't that be lighter and cheaper than purchasing and carrying a DIN to yoke regulator adapter?
Hi! I normally carry a DIN donut too, but you know what's the problem... and that's my problem, I lost or forgot a few of them already, sometimes I forgot to take it back from the scuba tank or just got lost on the diving boat mixed with other donuts, so at the end for me works better to have the adapter, also all my regs are already DIN, but I agree, for people that is organise, not like me LOL a donut works.
Thanksss
You can only use a DIN donut on a 232 bar tank. They won't fit on a 300 bar tank because the valve is deeper, so if a 300 bar is all they got, you're SOL with your Yoke connector regulator. If you're buying a new regulator, you should always opt for a DIN connector.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Sure, but those tanks, in my experience anyway, are only used by specialty tech diving outfit; if you're a tech diver, of course you'll use DIN.
It never once happened to me that a recreational diving outfit only had , or had any at all, 300 bars tanks to offer customers, in 40 years of diving.
Oh and BTW that Apex first stage is not an XTX50 it’s a DST!
Mmmmmm I´m sorry to disagree but they are Apex.
Thanks for your comment.
@@AzulUnlimited you can disagree all you like but the fact is….The Second Stage is an Apeks XTX50 and the First Stage is an Apeks DST!
@@markthomson6912 The XTX50 comes standard with the DST first stage instead of the FSR which comes with the XTX200 and XTX Tungsten. The DST is by far superior to the FSR in every way. It's environmentally sealed, has a turret, and it can also be converted to a 5 MP port, which the FSR cannot. The only Apeks 1st stage which is arguably better than the DST is the MTX(-R(C)), because of the over-moulded seal and heat sinks.
If is it not now the manta seasons, when is it? Are also de whale shark in comodo? Thanks for your videos ans show us the pictures (is always a way to drean a litte till covid “nos deje de joder” :b)
Hola hola!! Manta season start in November but February/March is madness man, last season around 60 on the same diving spot!!! Whale shark mmm is weird to see them here, is no season or place to see them but sometimes they just pass by to say hi!
Sarah is posting a lot of photos on Instagram, for us is also a way to dream about been back to "normal".
Cuidate amigo.
Almost all yoke can go to 3000 PSI.
Hi there,
Yes 210 BAR are indeed 3000 PSI, what they cannot handle is 300 BAR because the position of the O-ring.
DIN all the way. Less bulk, weight, durable, take more pressure. I don’t know why yolk is even needed.
Yep I think DIN is the way to do it, way more pros than cons.
Well, yoke is faster and less fiddly to install and remove, why it's prefered by busy US dive centers. On a yoke there's also no chance of damaging the thread by cross-threading since the threads are captives, and you never will have the threads on your reg damaged from inserting into a damaged valve for the same reason. Why I use a yoke when traveling, and just carry a small and light din plug in case they only have DIN valve where I'm going.
There is absolutely no reason to buy a Yoke connector nowadays.
DIN is more secure.
DIN is more widespread used on cylinders.
DIN can handle more pressure.
DIN is lighter.
DIN can be adapted to Yoke.
Yoke is less secure.
Yoke is becoming rarer and rarer on cylinders.
Yoke can't handle as much pressure.
Yoke is heavier.
Yoke cannot be adapted to DIN.
If you're still choosing Yoke connectors for your regulators, you are doing yourself a huge disservice.
Thank you for this list. I completely agree. Will always choose din from now on, but i still think there is a time and place for yoke. To each their own, i always say :) thanks for watching!
I know English is not your first language but you keep saying “Joke “ not Yoke 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤿
Thanks.
The Yoke is a joke, so he's not wrong.