Historic Iron Truss Relocation - Riveting for Reassembly

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • Bridge 5721, originally built in the 1870s and one of Minnesota's only iron (not steel) truss bridges, was disassembled in 2009 at its northern location in Koochiching County. The truss members were refurbished and reassembly began last fall at a new site east of St. Paul in Washington County. Newly renumbered as Bridge 82524, it will carry pedestrian, bicycle, and equestrian traffic on a trail over Manning Ave. This spring the truss will be lifted into place over the road.
    Two videos document parts of the disassembly and reassembly process. Instead of modern bolts, hot rivets were used experimentally to reassemble a few connections. The riveting is seen in this video. The disassembly video is in the previous blog.
    See Mn/DOT's web page on this and other historic bridge projects:
    www.dot.state.mn.us/historicbr...
    Courtesy of guest blogger -- Bob Frame

Komentáře • 71

  • @ItsAVolcano
    @ItsAVolcano Před 4 lety +5

    Seeing these guys struggle makes me think of the original builders who would have had the furnaces often 20+ feet away from where the rivets were going. Those crazy bastards would toss the red hot rivets to each other using thick leather and asbestos gloves.

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin Před 3 lety +2

    Nice! These old school techniques are beautiful.

  • @PacoOtis
    @PacoOtis Před 7 lety +7

    Thanks for the video and thanks for having a real sound track instead of some sort of elevator music. These rivets are what got us through the industrial revolution.

    • @okamijubei
      @okamijubei Před 4 lety +1

      Thank Andrew Carnegie's investments on all that.

  • @harrisonfurlong2820
    @harrisonfurlong2820 Před 6 lety +5

    Always wondered how they did rivets. Thanks for posting.

  • @Viridance
    @Viridance Před 10 lety +2

    riveting visuals on display here right now

  • @FrankLowe1949
    @FrankLowe1949 Před 6 lety +7

    THAT BEARDED OLD MAN IS A FIRE HAZARD UP THERE.

  • @josephhuether1184
    @josephhuether1184 Před rokem +1

    Hot rivets…right out of the oven!
    Just like grandpa used to make!

  • @baddonkey6876
    @baddonkey6876 Před 2 lety +1

    You know a few old timers are watchin this thinkin, " if ya'll just moved faster you wouldn't need that torch"

  • @michaelbrownlee4857
    @michaelbrownlee4857 Před 2 lety +1

    Finally
    Want to see this

  • @HemanthKumar-cc1so
    @HemanthKumar-cc1so Před 5 lety

    Thank u for uploading

  • @weld1529
    @weld1529 Před 5 lety +3

    As the old saying goes”strike while the Iron is hot” u got to move faster than that

  • @ImranKhan-cl7pq
    @ImranKhan-cl7pq Před 5 lety

    thanks to share this video i wanted to know about that type rivting

  • @Dog.soldier1950
    @Dog.soldier1950 Před 3 lety +2

    Riveting produces the strongest metal to metal connections but costs more takes longer

    • @luciusirving5926
      @luciusirving5926 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes, more expensive than modern Tek 5 self drilling screws indeed.

  • @iantripps
    @iantripps Před 12 lety +5

    Cool job but no rivet tossing? The speed in which the old timers got the rivet from furnace to point was amazing. Busted many rivets and did some. Never had the furnace in a reachlift. Is that OSHA approved? I'm a union ironworker in Jersey just for reference.

  • @neelankusekhar9949
    @neelankusekhar9949 Před 3 lety

    THANKS A LOT.

  • @suchitotoelsalvador6997
    @suchitotoelsalvador6997 Před 6 lety +12

    The men who originally built this bridge are laughing from their graves at these guys.

    • @okamijubei
      @okamijubei Před 4 lety +1

      Maybe but they're slower because of safety procedures which is necessary for those workers and the commissioners.

    • @RudeMcNasty
      @RudeMcNasty Před 4 lety +3

      you can ask him, he's the guy in the middle with the long beard.

    • @redrobbo1896
      @redrobbo1896 Před 3 lety +3

      And we laugh at you Latinos when you under bid every other contractor to get a job then follow absolutely ZERO safety precautions and end up having some scaffolding or a roof collapse on you. But hey safety is for pussies am I right?

  • @og1ie
    @og1ie Před 9 lety

    To all the people involved with this thing on you tube....This video is funny and you make me laugh.

  • @meenalbhardwaj1713
    @meenalbhardwaj1713 Před 5 lety

    Thanks liked it

  • @FurryWrecker911
    @FurryWrecker911 Před 10 lety +10

    How riveting.

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker Před 4 lety +2

    IRON Rivets were rarely driven pnuematically !!

  • @yoerim360
    @yoerim360 Před rokem

    what is used to hold the rivet in place while rivetting??

  • @Meatlessm
    @Meatlessm Před 12 lety

    Looking at a similar project. Where do you get rivets & buck up, head forming tools?

  • @kcelery
    @kcelery Před 6 lety +2

    In 1870, the rivet must have been hammered in place.

    • @ferrallderrall6588
      @ferrallderrall6588 Před 3 lety +1

      Neumatic tools have been around for some time maybe even that long ago

  • @letcikigor
    @letcikigor Před 2 lety

    Super!

  • @Rich13canada
    @Rich13canada Před 3 lety +1

    Okay.... I have watched a few of these videos. WTF are they using to buck the rivets? What am I missing?

    • @MegaBoilermaker
      @MegaBoilermaker Před 3 lety

      A variety of tools were used for "holdong up" or "holding on" ("bucking" in the US) the choice of tool depended on acess. The ususal choice for structural work was another Air hammer only slightly larger than the one used for driving the rivet, the other choice for more difficult acess was an air jack or "jam back" (sometimes with a built in hammer facility. A lot of "home made " tools were also made for specific applications. My Faather's/Grandfather's toolbox must have weighed close to half a ton with the quantity/variety of tools in it.

  • @Mr9C1Driver
    @Mr9C1Driver Před 11 lety +2

    Yea, kinda looks like they need some old school veteran rivet guys up there. Maybe some of the old Mackinac Bridge guys are still around, they did over 4,800,000 rivets on the Mighty Mac. I'm kinda thinking I don't want to ever drive over this Minnesota bridge.

    • @ferrallderrall6588
      @ferrallderrall6588 Před 3 lety

      Rivets went out in the 60's so good luck finding and convincing them from retirement

  • @MegaBoilermaker
    @MegaBoilermaker Před 4 lety +2

    More cowboy Ironworkers trying to do a Boilermakers job !

  • @shinjikenny
    @shinjikenny Před 11 lety +1

    Wow! they do it one by one??
    What's the new technology for doing this today?

  • @darcymcnabb9259
    @darcymcnabb9259 Před 3 lety +1

    This is Mans work ...no office work here .

  • @edulove88ask84
    @edulove88ask84 Před 9 lety

    why not to use bolt connection?

    • @istillusezune82
      @istillusezune82 Před 8 lety +3

      +edulove88 ask To preserve the historic look?

    • @chdreturns
      @chdreturns Před 8 lety +1

      Bolts are uglier than rivets and more prone to failure as they have a shelf life. Whereas bridges like this were built to last.

    • @luciusirving5926
      @luciusirving5926 Před 3 lety

      I would recommend a self-drilling screw connection. No nuts required.

  • @dgw9051
    @dgw9051 Před 10 lety

    Would welding not be faster?

    • @fuzzy1dk
      @fuzzy1dk Před 10 lety +1

      you can't just weld a connection designed for rivets or vice versa, it won't be nearly as strong

    • @ardvarkkkkk1
      @ardvarkkkkk1 Před 9 lety +3

      D GW In the temperature extremes a bridge will grow and shrink. It's not unusual for a good size bridge to change length by feet. Rivets let the steel move. If it were welded together, it would warp and buckle when the weather changed.

    • @luciusirving5926
      @luciusirving5926 Před 3 lety

      The best alternative in today's world is either bolts or self-drilling screws.

  • @qigong1001
    @qigong1001 Před 8 lety +3

    Meh...just use some superglue...should be fine.

  • @carlstewart2442
    @carlstewart2442 Před 4 lety +2

    to slow

  • @evertonmiranda3946
    @evertonmiranda3946 Před 2 lety

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  • @potato6312
    @potato6312 Před 4 lety

    Donald duck brought me here..

  • @climax522
    @climax522 Před 11 lety +7

    Y'all look too old and work too slow. Never were allowed to re-heat rivets in the hole. Get 'em up quick and hot.
    Both rivets looked to be too short ..... the snap shouldn't make contact with the plate.

  • @tribulation138
    @tribulation138 Před 10 lety +4

    This is a lost art. New bridges use stronger nut and bolt type fasteners.

    • @ardvarkkkkk1
      @ardvarkkkkk1 Před 9 lety +6

      tribulation138 Nuts and bolts are not stronger than rivets. Bridges are still riveted.

    • @chdreturns
      @chdreturns Před 8 lety

      +ardvarkkkkk1 Indeed Nuts and Bolts are far from stronger.

    • @JustJoost
      @JustJoost Před 7 lety +2

      Nope, rivets are weaker since they can not be hardened by temperature treatment. They would lose this hardening upon heating for installation. Besides ease of installation, this important reason for using high-strength bolts and nuts.

    • @tessdeboer6635
      @tessdeboer6635 Před 6 lety +4

      That's not thruth, the bolts are not filling the hole, the rivets do, that's the strength of a rivet

    • @manga12
      @manga12 Před 5 lety +1

      yes and draws it up as it tigher as it cools, and its somewhat work hardened by the hammering its forged into place, while not as hard as bolts, they will not work loose unless a sort of locking bolt like a rivenut is used that will torque off tight or screwed on and permanently locks on, so it has give and flex but holds where it will not work loose, which is why rivets are used still in some places for joints of things that jostle like car and truck frames or aircraft skin, or tools like tongs or scissors for example, and if done right will hold just as long, as a weld, they also will not snap all at once like a brittle weld can when fails, though this is less a case today with the research that has been done on welding and metalurgy, but one rivet can break but the others will hold, if done right and the rivet is upsett into place and not just bent into place where it actually fills up the whole void of the joint.

  • @wotasod
    @wotasod Před 8 lety +4

    you boys are realy slow at that

  • @Creabsley
    @Creabsley Před 6 lety +2

    The rivet isn’t hot enough. These guys are hopeless

    • @genecoppedge5972
      @genecoppedge5972 Před 5 lety +2

      Either the furnace isn’t hot enough or they’re taking them out too early but the rivets should be white hot.

  • @chopinbet1
    @chopinbet1 Před 2 lety

    WRONG