Integrated Carbon Handlebars for £22 - The ultimate bargain???

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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
  • I paid £22 for my set of Toseek integrated carbon bars. So what are they like, and how do they compare to a standard aluminium bar and stem?
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    A cheap set of carbon fibre bars from AliExpress or eBay can make a fantastic lightweight upgrade for your road bike, but how cheap is too cheap?
    In 2019 I was browsing eBay for some bike parts and picked up picked up a set of integrated carbon handlebars from a brand called Toseek, priced at £22.67. I’ve been using them for the last 18 months on my Chinese carbon disc brake setup, and they’ve performed pretty well.
    But should you get a pair, and how do they compare to a standard aluminium bar and stem, especially when it comes to comfort, the amount of flex, and the all-important weight?
    Got any questions or comments, stick them below 👇 and I'll try and get back to as many of you as I can!
    Toseek Handlebar Stats:
    Stem length - 100mm
    Width - 400mm
    Reach - 89mm
    Drop - 130mm
    Clamp diameter - 28.6mm
    Angle - 10 degrees
    Weight - 331g
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Start
    00:44 - Sponsor segment
    02:15 - Intro
    04:20 - Closeup
    06:59 - Weight and comparison
    08:18 - Flex test
    10:32 - Cable routing & design flaws
    14:07 - The good stuff
    15:31 - Final Thoughts
    Intro roll:
    Created by Dev Joshi - www.go2dev.co.uk
    About Trace Velo:
    I love cycling, and I love getting pro cycling kit for less. If it’s cheap, from China, and made of carbon fibre, I’m interested!
    Instagram:
    / tracevelo
    Email:
    tracevelouk@gmail.com
    Please note:
    With the exception of Siroko, all other products demonstrated in this video have been purchased by me, and I have no affiliation to any of the sellers or vendors shown.
    In addition, I am not a professionally trained bike mechanic. There can be risks associated with using products that are unbranded, untested, or come from sources where the provenance is unknown. Please talk to a qualified bike mechanic if you are in any doubt.
    In essence, be careful, do your research, and cycle safe!!!
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Komentáře • 394

  • @benjaminstevens4468
    @benjaminstevens4468 Před 2 lety +115

    Your show provides a super valuable service to the cycling community, nobody else does long term testing of lots of bargain componentry, also you have a dope steed, that anyone aside from possibly some dedicated label checkers, would call a fine bit of machinery, showing everyone that you don’t have to pay top dollar to roll hard.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +17

      Benjamin, awesome comment, thanks so much!!!! Yeah with parts like these, initial impressions are often not really enough, you have to get some decent miles on them first.

    • @edudutra
      @edudutra Před 2 lety +2

      Couldn't agree more.

  • @stefanobellote
    @stefanobellote Před 2 lety +39

    Damn even took the time to set and run flex tests!! amazing, Luke! Thanks for the content, top notch as always.. The honesty in highlighting the bad stuff and that it outweights the good stuff, this is what makes your channel one of the best around.
    now about those Elite Drive wheels, that's a nice carbon pattern!! it caught me off guard, first photo looked plain black but in the sun it turns into something else! Really looking forward to the review and also the gravel bike build!

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +3

      Awesome, thanks Stefano! But yeah the carbon pattern on the wheels intially looks like its a bit scratched up in the pictures, but the patten is REALLY lovely in person. I'll def hightlight it more in the review!

  • @tombreen7927
    @tombreen7927 Před 2 lety +1

    Have to say man what a grat channel you go into such detail and are totally honest in reviews!!!! love it

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Tom, I put loads of effort into these videos, so glad you like them!!!

  • @flyborgify
    @flyborgify Před 2 lety

    Another great video Luke, loved the little clip of MCA - keep it up!

  • @montanajones8393
    @montanajones8393 Před 2 lety +3

    As always, a well thought out, entertaining & thorough review. Bars can be made one piece, monocoque, which is much more costly due to separate molds for each size. Or as you said, doing it in sections which may be more cost effective for the manufacturer but both methods if done properly are equally as good because this is the same method that is used in bike manufacturing regardless of brand. I didn't go integrated but my bars are designed for STI shifters with the hole placements & seem fairly stiff. Not sure if its because they are T800 Toray vs the normal T700 used but I like them alot.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Ok great, thanks Montana! Yeah I think the theory about it being made in sections probably holds up. Anyway thanks for the comment!

  • @ianwhiteford2060
    @ianwhiteford2060 Před 2 lety +16

    Have used Toseek handlebars, the same as the ones you use on your rim brake bike, for more than 4 years with no issues. Well worth the price.

    • @bengarside79
      @bengarside79 Před 2 lety

      I’m a pretty heavy rider 90kg and have the straight toseek integrated bars and like you have had no issues for 3 years.. they’re more comfortable than the aero bars on my canyon ultimate (which maybe because they’re not quite as stiff) but I’m super happy with them!

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      Nice, good to hear some more success stories in the comments!

  • @Toto8opus
    @Toto8opus Před 2 lety +1

    Always top-notch info on your channel.

  • @cve5731
    @cve5731 Před rokem

    Thanks-I just got an upgraded version from aliexpress. I think they took your input to heart, and the holes seem bigger for cabling. We shall see about the longevity, but they seem quite high value for money

  • @eLpELoNdeJaPoN
    @eLpELoNdeJaPoN Před 2 lety +1

    super great video Luke!! I was aware about the flexibility of that specific AliExpress handlebars that's why I chose a different model ( TR5500) because it's scary when you're a heavy rider and put some watts in a Sprint ... All in all I really like those handlebars but don't like to be the guy who back home riding without handlebars...or in an ambulance 🚑😆 !
    Muchas gracias por tu vídeo 👌

  • @maxiliciously
    @maxiliciously Před 2 lety

    Hey Luke, as always that was a mildly entertaining and informative video, well done! But now I'm sitting here wondering what light you have there on your bike and I'm especially interested about the mount. Cheers mate!

  • @hisdadjames4876
    @hisdadjames4876 Před 2 lety +1

    Great, honest review. 👍 FYI, Ive bought a Toseek aero seatpost and two sets of more modern integrated bars directly from DengFu ($100). No problems whatsoever. Brilliant, in fact.

  • @peterhans7824
    @peterhans7824 Před 2 lety +2

    Great Video as always. Real enjoy listening to your thoughts!

  • @sjv6598
    @sjv6598 Před 2 lety +5

    I had the same issue with my toseek bars (none integrated) so ran them externally. They’ve been on the bike just over two years now without issue. The bars look really good on the bike and were a bargain at £33 posted 😬

  • @markvonwisco7369
    @markvonwisco7369 Před 2 lety +1

    I really appreciate how objective you are about both the pros and cons of the gear you review.
    @16:00 Curious as to what constitutes a heavier rider. I'm about 82kg/190cm...

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Yeah fair comment, so I weigh 74kgs, and would consider myself a relatively light rider. Sounds like you are in good shape too for 190cm! But I think once you stray above the 95kg range and up, some of the super lightweight components may not be the best choices. Cycling is open to literally everyone at any size really, but when it comes to the SUPER lightweight components, riding safe is paramount, so I think it just comes down to being sensible at the end of the day.

  • @MarkBurghouwt
    @MarkBurghouwt Před 2 lety +5

    I think the darker areas might be a part where they switch to unidirectional carbon, because that will be more flexible for the shifters to be connected to it without cracking. The rest is 3k carbon which is stronger but more brittle

  • @arifazhari7598
    @arifazhari7598 Před 2 lety +8

    Hi Luke, nice content.
    This is the reason for me as gravel cyclist/home mechanic. I prefer non integrated bar stem combo, easier adjustment and replacement.
    And i have externally cable routed modern steel gravel bike. Easy to maintain and inspect.
    Waiting for your gravel bike build dude.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah totally fair. In fact for the gravel build, i'm going separate bar and stem... Just makes life SO much easier!

    • @arifazhari7598
      @arifazhari7598 Před 2 lety

      @@TraceVelo another piece of advice I learned from raul luechter technique. Use stem that has large contact area AKA small hole in the steerer clamp area to reduce point loading in the steerer tube especially carbon one.
      Cheers. 💪💪

    • @hisdadjames4876
      @hisdadjames4876 Před 2 lety +1

      Agree, but the (small) weight and (significant) aero advantages are relatively compelling for a road bike. Looks great too🤗

  • @larrygross1248
    @larrygross1248 Před 2 lety +1

    I've bought many (many) Toseek items, too, over the past few years. No bad experiences, so far,. Generally, I like the look and performance of their products, and find their prices very competitive.

  • @wanderingjuniper
    @wanderingjuniper Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks mate, quality video as always

  • @aveedub7403
    @aveedub7403 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Luke another great vid, it's been a long time since the last one! Lol. Great as usual, I have the same bars and think they're pretty good. I had to slightly file the cable holes as I felt they were slightly undersized, and got rid of the sharp edges to avoid cable cuts. Cheers Buddy

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Yeah its been a while since the last upload. Life stuff has piled up this past month, so its been difficult to carve out enough time to bash videos out. Glad you liked it though, and good to know i wasn't the only one breaking out the files for these bars 🤣

  • @unbelievabilly
    @unbelievabilly Před měsícem

    Im riding a carbon MTB riser (noname) on my Omnium cargo now for a year now, and it works great, there is of course flex in them especially when im climbing but it doesn't feel sketchy at all in the end it's still a very long bar (74cm). Now that im building a new project ( 29" hardtail mtb) i orderd a new Toseek riser (74cm) and i think they wont dissapoint me again.
    Just because its "china carbon" doesnt mean they are crap since most of the carbon products even the stuff from big brands is made in china aswell.
    i really enjoy your videos man thanks.

  • @aarondangelo6313
    @aarondangelo6313 Před 2 lety +1

    Been waiting for a video like this.. I have been looking at those exact same bars from Aliexpress. That square profile is a definate red flag for me. Thanks for you excellent content and great videos!

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Glad I could help! But yeah the square profile of the drops is such an odd design choice, makes clamping on the shifters a massive pain.

  • @BombatGeneral
    @BombatGeneral Před 2 lety +6

    Hi Luke. A great methodical vid. I have had some experience working with carbon composites on yachts. Looking at the drops, the dark patches to me look as though the carbon hasn’t properly conformed to the surface of the mould (although might just be looking at a small screen!) leaving a thick layer of resin. Moulding the drops separately would be a nightmare with hours of rework to surface the joint, not ideal for a £22 set of bars so imagine they don’t do that. A concern here is that the thick resin matrix would be considered a point of failure as alone it doesn’t have much strength. (💭 I wonder what the cross section of that area looks like?).
    Where you filed the holes, as these bars don’t scream structural longevity, I’d be hesitant to do that, although I understand the desire. You could seal the exposed edges with a resin or similar which might help prevent stress fractures that might occur near the exposed fabric.
    It would be interesting if you you did a part two where you cut these in half so that we could see the internal quality, looking at the uniformity in cross section throughout the bar, looking for thin, thick bits of layup, voids from dirt or air. Although aesthetically the ripples aren’t to much of a problem they may cause imperfections and voids below them increasing risk of failure.
    Saying all this I’ve got a ToSeek seat post on my roadie and can’t complain 😁
    Keep on keeping on Trace!

  • @medwintombocon3399
    @medwintombocon3399 Před 2 lety

    Its been a while Luke, good to see you to a new vlog for another carbon handle bar.
    On the video shown, expiremental drop with weights on drops. It feel like what happened on your friends Tossek carbon handle. Snap on the middle of handle.
    I got news for you hehe, Now i also Got MicroNew 2x9 setup pair with Sora r3000 FD & RD. its so good and crisp, So easy to shift. Nothing to worry. Its almost been a month when i used it.
    Thanks for the review, now i got good Groupset.

  • @jaredfink5146
    @jaredfink5146 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm diggin those bib-shorts. Ima have to order a pair of those. Thanks for teaming up and introducing me to Siroko.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      No worries Jared! Yeah the bib shorts are great, and they look really slick too!

  • @antoniiocaluso1071
    @antoniiocaluso1071 Před 2 lety +1

    Have had that bar on my Sp Roubaix. Real nice. No worries for "flex", at all. Like most drops, they could use a bit more "flat" area at the top curve-to-the-levers. Like where one's hands settle on when hold the horns. Ohhh...I build catamarans, using CF/epoxy. Not that I know what's under that black-finish, but it might be an epoxy-rich area, to reinforce the joined-parts. A black-dyed epoxy surface coat will do that. Again, about that "flex", that's a GOOD thing. If one spills, and the bars don't bend or break, but, rather "flex", it'll make the difference at getting back on the ride! Flex=Good ))) Ohhhh...no worries for your hole-widening...CF/epoxy is an amazing composite!! (wouldn't get a CF-frame, though. AL is king, for me)))

  • @IamMrDisaster
    @IamMrDisaster Před 2 lety

    Carbon, in similar configuration to alloy can be stiffer and stronger. I have to round diameter carbon bars that are stiffer than the alloy bars they replaced and much lighter. However, carbon can be designed to flex which is often used to create compliance for absorption of vibrations transmitted from the road surface. For example Lauf makes a "smoothie" drop bar that does a great job of reducing vibration transmission to the hands. The bars you tested are an example of flex inherent in the design (flattened surfaces) and lack compensation for strength.

  • @peterdeanov753
    @peterdeanov753 Před 2 lety +8

    Waiting for the gravel bike build video to drop soon 🥰

  • @MIDB2323
    @MIDB2323 Před 2 lety +1

    yes yes yes - a new video from you - thank you - amazing content :)

  • @smartnothard2400
    @smartnothard2400 Před 2 lety

    Correct. When a CF pattern is not seamless, joins have been used. These joins are then ‘glued’ to the rest of the frame with black tar looking glue. The cheaper way of working with CF.
    Don’t worry, it’s the same story on higher end products too however they do not use joins. The outer layer is kept naked and extra layers applied to the inside of a tube or frame where the parts meet.

  • @alexrayner1449
    @alexrayner1449 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the content as always. Good sense of humour mate. I’m pretty sure that carbon frame is the same as my Dolan frame and the Planet X space chicken or on one. Can’t remember which. I built a gravel bike from one from light carbon for my misses. It’s a mega bike. Less than half the price of what I payed from Dolan for my frame.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Nice, yeah i can't wait to get the gravel bike built up.... Might try it this weekend!

  • @KM-oh3kw
    @KM-oh3kw Před 2 lety +1

    I agree Luke, black areas are likely two pieces epoxied together, sanded and then spayed black to cover up.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Ok nice, thanks for confirming KM!

  • @andypughtube
    @andypughtube Před 2 lety +2

    I have had the exact same bars for a couple of years. Mine have been absolutely fine, and they really do look great.
    I actualy managed to get both the brke lines and the gear cables through the original holes, but I did need to smooth out some sharp corners to do so. ie, there was a bit of needle-file action required but the holes remained the same size.
    The whole bike is a mix of cheap chinese carbon and Ultegra. The only things that have failed were a whole load of spoke nipples (I am quite heavy). That really turns out to be due to my "too cheap to be true "Mavic" wheels" actually being too cheap to be true... (Confirmed as bogus by Mavic, and with spoke tension literally off the scale of my meter)

  • @martintin250
    @martintin250 Před 2 lety +1

    Quality video man. Just love ❤️!!! Haha! Looking forward to the gravel bike build!

  • @80erinm
    @80erinm Před 2 lety +1

    Lovely content Luke! I would think the extra flex in the carbon handlebars is not a terrible thing, allows the bars to soak up bumps a little more and smooth the ride out.
    Nevermind, thats exactly what you said after I posted the comment...

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      No problem! Yeah the flex is definitely a good thing, but the amount here is a little disconcerting tbh... But having said that, my set are still fine!

  • @jamiemarshall9262
    @jamiemarshall9262 Před 2 lety +1

    I fitted a cheap toseek carbon fork to a cheap mountain bike that had a heavy rough old suntour spring fork and turned it into a fairly lightweight run around town bike and I think it's great. I'm not sure I'd recommend it on safety grounds - not knowing how consistent this cheap carbon is. Mine hasn't failed and feels really solid but others might not be so lucky

  • @shrv-pro
    @shrv-pro Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for an another great episode!

  • @rogergalvez3795
    @rogergalvez3795 Před 2 lety

    I have the triaero gravel bike same color with the Ican wheel set, panaracer gravel king 38 mm tires and Shimano GRX 800 group set. I love the bike, handling is great and very comfortable.

  • @edpilling4955
    @edpilling4955 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent Beasties drop! Cool video too

  • @veloman59
    @veloman59 Před 2 lety

    Got some Toseek full carbon forks on my 29 er ATB gravel bike conversion. Can't fault them, very nice :)

  • @JuanCarlosPieschacon
    @JuanCarlosPieschacon Před 2 lety +1

    excellent, thank you for sharing. your videos are awesome and very informative.

  • @RegBinary
    @RegBinary Před 2 lety +1

    Yay a new Trace Velo video :D

  • @guitarrerist698
    @guitarrerist698 Před 2 lety

    Ive had all sorts of cheap Toseek bike stuff throughout the years since maybe 2017 lol. Value for money. You dont know how great your channel is. I think you're the only cycling CZcamsr that focuses on affordable road bike stuff. Too many purists with deep pockets out there Lool

  • @victoroe454
    @victoroe454 Před 2 lety +1

    There are hundreds of options of integrated handlebars on aliexpress. I chose one that have like a channel on the bottom to run the cables so you don't have to pass them inside de bar. They were more expensive at 100 usd but I like them.

  • @santiagobenites
    @santiagobenites Před 2 lety +1

    I'm running a pair of Toseek branded compact bars in a 38mm width on my road bike, and they're well built and solid, with no flex at all. You can't go wrong with a quality bar like that at that price.

  • @johnnyyahoo9867
    @johnnyyahoo9867 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for amazing content - you've sent me down an amazingly fun rabbit hole (bike build)... and was that a rabbit hole or black hole?
    As a former triathlete, I love "aero bars". I also love the concept of the "aero shaped" handlebars. Who makes a workable combo of the two together? I've heard/read that clamping on carbon can be "no bueno". Are any aero handlebars made to be fitted with aero bars (so that I can finish the build of my dream bike)?
    Side note: "experts" on youtube claim that aero handlebars compared to round make more difference than aero wheels. True or not, I'm sure there's some number of watts available with the aero handlebars (and I want those watts!).

  • @peterscuba
    @peterscuba Před 2 lety +1

    I have 2 Toseek carbon handlebars both very good, I'm happy with them. My local bike shop in Thailand fitted for me so no issue for me 😁

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Ok nice, thanks for sharing! Yeah Toseek definitely have some decent stuff out there!

  • @carlomartinpefianco6710

    I have toseek Carbon seatpost- 1,500 php/30 USD , drops 1,200php/ 24 USD and stem 600 php/ 12 USD. I had no problems with them, been using them for 5 years now, 3 years daily ride, crashed twice, no cracks. I've read reviews that said its a waste of money and dangerous but worked out fine for me. I was skeptical when i recieved and inspected the products because of the rough and uneven distribution of carbon sheets. it really is a gamble when buying knockoffs.

  • @grindeyyyyy
    @grindeyyyyy Před 2 lety

    I have the brand x mtb bars and stem on my track bike, apart from a few scratches from when I went over my bars they’re amazing

  • @richiejames928
    @richiejames928 Před 2 lety +17

    I’ve got to say I gave Siroko a look from your recommendation and honestly I can’t fault them one bit! affordable. Really really good quality, nice looking clobber and delivered really quickly! and let’s be honest how good do these new grey bibs look!! Cheers Luke keep on keeping on!

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +4

      Cheers Richie, great to hear!!!

  • @edmcguirk8603
    @edmcguirk8603 Před 2 lety

    Regarding fishing cables through carbon - it is amazingly fast to tape a small neodymium magnet to the cable and then guide it along with an external magnet. I no longer even hesitate to pull cables out and redo them. IT IS JUST TOO FAST.

  • @johncntr4804
    @johncntr4804 Před 2 lety

    Have some similar one to these on my Scott. Been dope thus far!

  • @Tethysmeer
    @Tethysmeer Před 2 lety +1

    You will love the gravel frame, it's exceptional.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Ok great! Yeah im super excited to get it built. Might have to give it a go this weekend!

  • @tornagawn
    @tornagawn Před 2 lety

    A gem of a channel I just found via the Sensah group set video. I’ve been following the Superstrata Indienogo ‘printed Carbon fibre bike’ for the past year or so….it has no seatpost, the original was to be ‘custom’ to numerous body measurements, now it’s just standard frame sizes….They also now say they can’t get the promised Shimano or SRAM group sets so are putting Rallex or ltwoo components on. Needless to say despite claims of already shipping bikes, nobody seems to have one…. Scam?

  • @VishnuRajendranAmboo
    @VishnuRajendranAmboo Před 2 lety

    Toseek and EC90 seems to have a good buy. I have a EC90 hander bar on my MTB and EC90 stem on my RB
    As always good reviews

  • @boyacki
    @boyacki Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you so much for making my week! I love the enthusiasm and genuine passion! My favourite video for humour and as always, the objective analysis is informative and the opinion is fair, I think!
    Can't wait to see the next one and if there was a "love it!" Button, I would smash it over and over!

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      P Wan!!!! Awesome comment, thanks so much dude 👊

  • @aaronweigerber5313
    @aaronweigerber5313 Před 2 lety +14

    Hi Luke,
    Great content! I actually crashed with the same exact TOSEEK handlebars on a 1k km Bike trip. They snaped at the section where it gets darker and the carbon isn't visible. Since I had 300km left, I cut them to the point, where I could reclamp my shifter on. In any event your assumption is correct: they have not been made in one mold. The drops have a cone shaped section which is pushed and glued together inside the flats, at the darkened sections.
    I've got pictures to show it, but I can't put them in a comment 🤷‍♂️
    Btw. a UNO aluminium stem (

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      Ok great, yeah a couple of people in the comments have mentioed that they were probably molded in several parts, but thanks for confirming. If you do have any pictures of the snapped bar, send them over to my email (listed in the video description), I'd be really interested to see them! And good suggestion about the UNO stem, having more adjustability is def a good thing!

    • @hotsubur24
      @hotsubur24 Před 2 lety

      UNO stem is good and light. I use one too

    • @fergusdenoon1255
      @fergusdenoon1255 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TraceVelo I likely reason for them being squared, making it easier to line up the separate parts.

  • @stop223
    @stop223 Před 2 lety +1

    Since I'm kinda heavy (81kg) and use my upper body a lot while riding, especially when sprinting and climbing, I stay away from carbon on my cockpit. I run cheap aluminium handlebars with a kalloy uno stem. The setup is light and stiff enough and I feel safe while riding it. However I find myself kinda often looking at chinese carbon bars like "the one" but I try to resist because the only reason to buy them for me are the looks..
    I really enjoyed your review and I'm looking forward for the senicx pr2 review. I will get the senicx pr4 soon since I want to keep my 24mm bb!

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Yeah thats a sensible approach. I dont do alot of sprinting, and I try to be relatively gentle in the drops with these bars, but 81kgs is definitely not heavy dude. Tbh I think you will probably be fine as long as you are not grasping the very ends of the drops and bunny hopping with them! Also the Senicx crank has been pretty bulletproof so far, but review coming soon!

  • @stuartbird5139
    @stuartbird5139 Před 2 lety +1

    Another top quality trace velo production 😎

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Cheers Stuart!!!! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 Před rokem

    Interesting testing and discussion. I suspect a lot of the flex in the carbon bars is due to the asymmetric shape and the accommodation of cable runs. A round handlebar designed for external cable runs has no such needs and would not suffer from these concessions to aesthetics and supposed aerodynamic efficiency.

  • @pscoop
    @pscoop Před 2 lety

    I got some "Ryet" badged integrated bars from the mighty Aliexpress (the Lexon store) for £63 total and they are great - definitely recommend them. However they now appear to be >£100. At that price not sure I wouldn't just get separate (carbon) bar and stem or look for another brand - not because the Ryet aren't good, just too rich at that price for my blood. To me that have great balance between enough flex to help smooth out the road buzz but enough stiffness to feel totally confident in any situation.
    Like the Toseek thay are a pain to cable up for the same reasons and because the holes all have a lip on the inside so you have to get the cable over the lip but through the hole. And that is a pain with KEB-SL cable outers (if you are using cable actuated disc brakes). In the end I had to first get a scrap of regular brake cable through, then gaffer tape that end to end with the KEB and pull through, but even then the tape kept catching on the lip so it a few goes and a *lot* of swearing to get the cable pulled through. If I were doing it again I would get a set of those files and not just widen the hole but also try to remove the lip. They also support fully integrated cabling if your frame & headset have it (mine doesn't) but I doubt that would work with KEB-SL and cable disc brakes - the corners are just too sharp and that's really only for hydraulic and di2/etap.

  • @pantherv5
    @pantherv5 Před 2 lety +1

    i recently upgraded from the giant conduct system to a 105 hydraulic set up. you're absolutely correct about the internal cable routing hassle. i used the same bar as your rim brake bike. i first attempted to route the cable inside the bars, but the holes just don't line up with the shifter/lever. you really have to kink the cable so it would go into the holes. i gave up and ended up just routing the cable the old fashion way - outside/under the bar. LOL. i do love the flat surface on the bar. it provides a wider contact surface and decreases the pressure against your hand.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      Yeah cabling these bars, definitely a massive pain! But what do you think of the giant conduct system??? Basically i've never used it, but im going to be installing it on the gravel bike build, so anything to watch out for, or anything i should know about?

    • @pantherv5
      @pantherv5 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TraceVelo i think the conduct system is a great inexpensive way for folks who want to get into hydraulic brake but don't want to fork out too much money. i picked up a separate set of conduct sl and computer mount for $100US. i was also lucky to pick up a set of 105 hydraulic lever/caliber for $200US, which i installed on my giant defy. i'm planning to put the conduct sl on a velobuild frame that i got few months ago.
      the drawback of this system is that there aren't many stem options; you pretty much have to go with a giant contact/connect stem. i have yet to find any after market stem that has the same bolt pattern as the conduct master cylinder.
      the conduct set up is pretty straight forward. giant does suggest that you use compression-less housing from the lever to the master cylinder (i call it alien head, lol) to decrease any slack in the cable. i'm unsure if factory uses shifting cable, but the housing i took off had in-line strains, not spiral like the typical brake housing. one other thing you want to watch out for is the fluid port on the master cylinder. the opening is recessed so many bleeding kit fittings won't go deep enough to get a seal. i had to modify the fitting with dremel tool so it would screw all the way into the port.
      i also like my free stroke very short. neither 105 nor conduct gives you the option to adjust that, so i followed a video by Bike Sauce czcams.com/video/thGBWhfIaB8/video.html and i was able to get my free stoke on 105 very short. the rotors need to be very true or you will get the rubbing.
      looking forward to your gravel build!!!! cheers.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      @@pantherv5 Ok amazing, thanks for the detail above! Yeah I got myself a compatible giant stem a few weeks back, but good shout on the compressionless cables! I think the kit i have came with cable outers, but good idea nonetheless. I also have a conduct specific bleed kit in the post too, so hopefully bleeding wont be too much hastle. Anyway thanks for the comment, super helpful!!!

    • @pantherv5
      @pantherv5 Před 2 lety

      @@TraceVelo just curious which conduct brake do you have? the older one or the SL??

  • @jonathankirwan5757
    @jonathankirwan5757 Před 2 lety

    Two drops is all you get... Great video again Luke - thanks!

  • @caljcam
    @caljcam Před 2 lety +1

    Luke's sweater is the perfect texture to really fuck with video compression

  • @williamdanielhunt5567
    @williamdanielhunt5567 Před 2 lety

    Love the videos and really like the reviews of the Aliexpress stuff, just not much info out there so good to get these reviews. I have ordered some Sensah kit on your advice. Re bars I would never trust a super cheap carbon bar from Aliexpress. Carbon bars are notorious for dramatic failure especially in a crash and that is for well know brands with well documented QC processes so my view is carbon bars from unknown brands with sketchy QC processes (or completely unknown QC) is a big risk, I get that branded stuff is still made in China but they have proper QC , after sales etc. For the tiny weight saving I just don't think its worth it - A set of ControlTech alu bars in 40cm is around 230g and about £45 so within a few grams of a carbon bar / similar price and are (imo) far safer. Aliexpress stuff for shifters, bar tape, chainsets etc are great and if something goes wrong it would be annoying but not life threatening, a failed carbon bar or wheelset on the road ain't worth thinking about! Great vids keep. Looking forward to receiving my Sensah shifters.

  • @markwaren5048
    @markwaren5048 Před 2 lety

    your vids are the best!

  • @Southerncyclist
    @Southerncyclist Před rokem

    Good looking bars. I want some for my Fuji.
    The massive wide section is a huge reason you're not getting num hands.

  • @iancuk
    @iancuk Před 2 lety +2

    Bought the exact same Toseek integrated bar in mid 2020, Price was 80 USD 😂😂. Still rockin solid today.

  • @ozmadman
    @ozmadman Před 2 lety

    Just to add my two Penneth. My Tooseek ones (not the integrated ones) failed after using them on just 3 rides. It was pretty bumpy and even though torqued correctly and using carbon paste the bars swivelled jn the stem on the bumps. After tightening them twice on one ride I removed them when home to find the that they had started to crack and delaminate under the stem fixing area. BTW I am only 60kgs. So take your choice but I am going back to aluminium even if they are a 100 grams or so heavier

  • @kondor4920
    @kondor4920 Před 2 lety

    For anyone who wants to recable a handlebar, i highly recommend picking yourself up a cabling tool.
    You can then guide the cables from the outside with magnets.
    There are a couple of different ones out there but really anyone will do.
    I got myself a one from jagwire for 30€, it worked like a charm.

    • @adambrickley1119
      @adambrickley1119 Před 2 lety

      Hows that work on bars? Isn't the magnet only for inner cable in the frame?

    • @kondor4920
      @kondor4920 Před 2 lety

      @@adambrickley1119 you can guide the inner cable through and then you have a guide for the outer, you can just push it.
      There is also an adapter for di2 and hydraulic.

  • @KPong1337
    @KPong1337 Před 2 lety +1

    i really watch these for the jammer intro. All the funny shit and bike stuff is like a bonus!

  • @biamarconchi
    @biamarconchi Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Luke, about the Gravel build... I just finished my Carbonda CFR 696 of which is identical to yours. As a word of advice about the build. Do your cabling before putting in the forks and BB.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety

      OK nice, thanks for the tip Marco

  • @bikepackingadventure7913
    @bikepackingadventure7913 Před 2 lety +2

    3:42 Loving the QC sticker.
    😂🤣😂🤣😂
    Quality is hit and miss ??
    I think I’ll give them a miss as I would like to keep my face in one piece 😳😂😂

  • @davideastwood6365
    @davideastwood6365 Před 2 lety

    Possible they use a Uni directional carbon matrix on the suggested join area as opposed to the multi axial carbon used on the rest of the handlebar

  • @Chiby2510
    @Chiby2510 Před 2 lety

    Love your video. Wish you have XC MTB to review.

  • @tamasdobronyi7242
    @tamasdobronyi7242 Před 2 lety +1

    Got the very same on my gravel build, I cheated the system and routed the brake lines through the inner hole and the shifter cable through the outer one (Sensah SRX), and it works well with quality Jagwire housing. Also I’m really heavy, over 100 kg and 190 cm but at least not the sprinter type. Flex is scary at first, and not much mileage in them yet (this is its first season), but they are solid to this day, no cracking sounds or funny behavior yet - poor quality composites tend to have sounds before they snap, if it is not from an extraordinary impact but fatigue-type failure.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      Cabling through the outer hole... fair play! I had a go at that, but the angles where just far too tight. But if it works it works i guess!!

    • @davidmyers9581
      @davidmyers9581 Před 2 lety

      @@TraceVelo I was going to ask why you didn't use both available holes to feed the cables through.
      Great channel by the way.

  • @jimmyhor78
    @jimmyhor78 Před 2 lety +1

    Unless you are racing or sprinting all the time, some compliance in the bars can improve ride comfort for regular everyday cycling.

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah totally agree. For everyday riding these are awesome, it's just the level of flex at the ends of the drops, not super confidence inspiring. But its a trade-off i guess...

  • @mickchaganis6607
    @mickchaganis6607 Před 2 lety

    In the process of buying a Giant Cadex 980c, I believe this one of the first mass produced carbon lugged frames for a resto mod project, I want it all carbon and 12 speed........ searched 12 speed groupset expecting Sensah then this popped up!!!!
    LTWOO RX 2x12 Speed for only £122.25, 2 X carbon shifters, front and rear derailleur...... you have to, you know you can't resist?

  • @BlackyBrownDestruction9337

    My toseek carbon fiber seat post had a aluminum type material underneath the black stuff inside the tube

  • @chfilms7651
    @chfilms7651 Před 2 lety

    I have the cinelli ram 2, still hold up great!

  • @miquelb7171
    @miquelb7171 Před 2 lety

    love your videooss!!!

  • @melinteradu8479
    @melinteradu8479 Před 2 lety

    Square shape is easier to obtain. The dark side I gues is from the bending of the layer which overlap and loose the patern. A guess... judging from the point where they break in the video. Is related to the absobtion of the shock. The breaking occur on the place where the even interwoven carbon meet the bend where I suppose the material is more compacted due to the round shape. May be different thou. But anyway, if your lucky and stumble on a good batch, and you don't accelerate or climb in the drops (Pantani style as I do) they can last. But they look very tidy and clean on you front bike!

  • @randellgribben9772
    @randellgribben9772 Před rokem

    i have the ' TOOK ' bars on my pinarello 65.1 for the past 4 years...no issues with them,, little hard to set up, but so far good bars..i think i paided 55 american for them 130 stem 44 weight

  • @rickyracerr1
    @rickyracerr1 Před rokem

    There was a sticker on the broken handlebar right next to the failure point that said quality control. Those QC stickers don't mean s***. That's just marketing. A lot of Chinese manufacturers make garbage, a lot of them make very good stuff. The trick is to do a lot of research to find the good ones. The ones that have been around a while.

  • @chris1275cc
    @chris1275cc Před 2 lety +23

    I almost have a phobia about carbon bars and stems, the thought of them snapping mid ride gives me the willies. And I know aluminium can snap too, I even have a cheapo Carbon seat post and saddle rails and the thought of one of those parts sapping and sharp bit going where the sun doesn't shine should fill me with way more dread but it doesn't. 🤷‍♂

    • @LuisPedroGoncalves
      @LuisPedroGoncalves Před 2 lety +1

      same here

    • @AlexStavrinides
      @AlexStavrinides Před 2 lety +1

      I'm tempted by these............ for my turbo bike..... I'm thinking that for my bike which never leaves the turbo trainer and never on the road, these could be a nice bit of bling and if they snap while in the garage, it's a lot less carnage than out on the road.

    • @chris1275cc
      @chris1275cc Před 2 lety +3

      @@AlexStavrinides You say that but unless you wear a helmet on the turbo things could actually be worse LOL Knowing my luck Id put my head straight through the TV I use for Zwift🤣

    • @galenkehler
      @galenkehler Před 2 lety +1

      @@AlexStavrinides carbon has the advantage of corrosion resistance in the trainer environment!

  • @jugaloo5873
    @jugaloo5873 Před 2 lety +2

    Im sure the 'saftey feel' was greater after the filing!!

  • @RedmercyGG
    @RedmercyGG Před 2 lety +1

    7:34 so when is the review coming out for that fabulous spoke key 3?

  • @chaics85
    @chaics85 Před rokem

    Would love to see some videos review about og evkin carbon items. They seem to be a little more expensive then to seek carbon.

  • @TomStringer
    @TomStringer Před 2 lety +1

    Toseek here too on some bars and seats/post and still good.

  • @MrTedJourney
    @MrTedJourney Před 2 lety

    Hi Luke. Have you thought of having a look inside with a cheap Chinese, of course, Endoscope? looking for voids and resin pools....scary!

  • @KyriaxWitch
    @KyriaxWitch Před 2 lety

    is really an ultimate bargain!! , on first shit on road this bars give for rider, a free surprise consult on dentist.
    that is awesome!!

  • @ewtcizs1101
    @ewtcizs1101 Před 2 lety

    Have you ever considered any of the more "premium" bar and stem combos? I am really interested in the ryet ones, around 100€ and kinda cool imo ^^

  • @babyrabies
    @babyrabies Před 2 lety

    Get those higher end UNO handlebar and stem made from 7050 alloy. Heaps better than any generic carbon and only 30g heavier than those integrated carbon ones.

  • @fisharefriends598
    @fisharefriends598 Před 2 lety +1

    Would love to see hambini check these out

  • @kentyeong2008
    @kentyeong2008 Před 2 lety

    Hi..saw that you are using a set of Elite Drive wheelset, will you be giving a review on them anytime soon? Thanks!

  • @NikFowler
    @NikFowler Před 2 lety +1

    Liked for the outro! :D

    • @TraceVelo
      @TraceVelo  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Nik! I was exhausted by the last take... The beastie boys got me through it!

    • @NikFowler
      @NikFowler Před 2 lety

      @@TraceVelo Thank god for The Beasties!

  • @robertkujawa3504
    @robertkujawa3504 Před 2 lety

    You can't beat the non-integrated RXL SL bars and Kalloy Uno 7 stem. Total weight: 275g. Stiff, cheap and adjustable, which you don't get with the integrated ones.

  • @neilfield3229
    @neilfield3229 Před 2 lety +1

    Keep up the good work

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse Před 2 lety +3

    Yeah, my lunch is saved with a great Trace Velo production just in time.

  • @mlund3n
    @mlund3n Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Luke. I know I'm a little late to the party, but thought that it would make more sense to comment on a related video. I'm a bit of a heavier rider and therefore don't really trust Chinese carbon handlebars. (More weight on the bars) However I'd love to see more videos of handlebars from AliExpress in a future video. You know, to get some confidence from your experience.
    Anything planned?

  • @budycelyn
    @budycelyn Před 2 lety

    i have a toseek carbon fork on the bike i use on a turbo trainer, its qr type but it doesn't have the little nubs that stop the wheel falling off should the qr loosen. lucky its just a turbo trainer bike i guess. other than that the fork itself seems pretty good