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The second round of the French elections is going on today and early results suggests the Far Right has dropped from 1st to 3rd place as the centre and left pull candidates and people vote tactically to oppose the Far Right. Of course 'all the results are not yet in' .
Basicaly first round you vote for the one you like, second round you vote against the one you absolutely don't want to see as your representative
As a Brit I think we could learn from this.
Though STV might have been easier, and maybe we could come up with a reasonable PR system, but I'm not holding my breath.
In France, for the past 40 years or so, globalists of both right and left have demonized a patriotic party to win elections for sure. Despite the fact that the situation is getting worse, the system has managed to get it into people's heads that if you vote against the patriotic right-wing party, it's like fighting Nazism or racism.
This tactic continues to work. What's more, all the violent actions of the left are downplayed.
France has become the Titanic, it's sinking and there won't be a lifeboat for everyone.
@@stephenlee5929 You are right ,look at the US with their stupid 2 political party they are stuck between voting for a menially off or a criminal
I mean mentally
Friendly reminder: every time you hear 'reform' in a video about European politics, translate it into 'austerity'.
It's more like "Reform, to become more like the USA"
I dont know about the rest of Europe but the most left-winged party in Sweden often use the word reforms when they want to implement shorter workdays for workers, more support for single mothers or free glasses for kids etc.
Second round today the left won, far right became 3d. Strategic stepping out of left and centre candidates did that.
But there are a lot of arguments in the left coalition.
There was fighting factions of the left in Iran when the revolution happened. Its stunning how similar things are. But yet the left never learn from history
@@olivierdk2really not. It's just a clown party
@@nicolasbls1738 lol, they are the only one with a real program. If you have a sad life, don't tell us it's about some guys coming from differents country.
If you're a shit it's all on you my sweet boy
@@olivierdk2 true
To be clear, the French Communist party is not at all what it used to be, it's a rather moderate letf party nowadays. We have far-left parties like Lutte ouvrière (the proletariate Struggle, sorry for the bad translation) or the Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste (NPA) (New Anticapitalist Party). Those usually get less than 1% of the votes. Even the "Communist" party doesn't get a lot. I learnt that the NPA was split in 2 back in 2022, between a more radical fringe and a more moderate one. The latter was in fact in the New Popular Front alliance but was really a minor force in it, I think they had one candidate... and he lost.
Vous aux USA vous avez , soit un vieillard sénile , soit un baiseur d'actrices porno....En France,on a plus de choix ! 👀😁😅🤣😂👌🐓
It's just the national secretary of the Communist Party, Fabien Roussel, who lost in his constituency. There were 9 Communist Party deputies who were re-elected.
The French Communist Party was the leading party in France just after the Second World War, but its subservience to the USSR and its electoral alliance with the Socialist Party precipitated its fall in the 1990s, on the one hand with the disappearance of the USSR and on the other hand with the denial of the socialist party which turned its back on its commitments to social reforms.
the whole republic is extreme left oriented in it's own constitution
@@RemplacementTV lol
@@RemplacementTV No need to say more, your nickname tells everything
The communist and the socialist party in france are not communist or socialist lmao
The communists are a very rare species indeed ,and the French "socialists" are known as "social-democrats "in other European countries.
they are totally communists and socialists : dictatorship , tyranny , censorship and steal the public money
Having more fringe parties gaining traction is telling : the status-quo is NOT satisfying for the population. Having extremes gaining traction is generally the sign that something is off, like in the 1930's regarding the economy at the time.
It also carries the risk of what happened in the 30's, basically, the mainstream parties are playing with fire by not listening to the concerns of the public, but also, the public are playing with fire with giving more powers to the far right.
History has shown us many times that when you give extream elements too much power, they abuse it and try to change the system in their favour, usually to the point of making it almost impossible for another party to win power, basically, a dictatorship.
Trump tried it in the US, but he wasn't popular enough to push that agenda, but he tried and that should be concerning for any Americans that think about voting him back in, because I'll put money on it that he will try again, knowing that this is his last term in power.
Some European countries have tried it, noticeable Hungary which have had some success and in Poland when the PIS party was in power, basically, they consolidate power, reduce the media freedom and make it more difficult for other parties to win at the election, which the elections become a sham and are just there for show as we saw in Russia not so long ago.
Just like you said, the 1930's, Hitler didn't come into power by chance, the 30's was the decade of the depression, that likely got a lot of people very angry and when people get angry, they get reckless in how they vote, we might be seeing the early signs of that in Europe and North America now., in other words, voters better keep a close eye on the far right that they don't try to clamp down on the political system to favour them, and the same for the Republican Party if Trump wins power.
Also, one last thing, did anyone notice on the last election how Trump said that if he didn't win, the Democrats rigged it against him? The reason he said that is because he wasn't going to take no for an answer and was trying to build an angry mob to force the issue, and they did try by attacking the House of Representative, Americans were really playing with fire on that one, because if Trump had enough public support, he would be in a much better position to intimidate the system and get them to change to how he wants, he wasn't popular enough to force the changes he wanted, but he still tried, this would be very dangerous if any of the radical elements gain a majority like a landslide, because there would be very little to stop them pushing there agenda apart from the majority of the public rising up to them, which things would really have to get bad for that to happen.
Either way, you can't help but feel that history might be on the verge of repeating its self, which is no surprise to me, the human race is very quick to forget history and the warnings of what can happen.
This threshold of 12.5% of registrants greatly rarefies the possibility of quadrangulars and reduces that of triangulars
3:44 But when a European ( continental ) mean "liberal", we mean economicaly ( so pretty much the opposite of what americans understand in the word ).
8:54 There's a "curse of cohabitation", it happened in every one of them. The party or coalition of the prime minister never get elected in the following presidential election.
Well the french Constitutional counseil stated that the national rally IS far right, and it's important to name them for what they are.
The constitutional counseil is made up of people who were placed there by the last few presidents in office who were all terrible. Nobody cares about the conseil's opinion, nobody among the people at least
the republic constitution is far left oriented ....
@@RemplacementTV and are the members of the counsil left oriented? I don't think so, most of them are right centrists, or right. The is one left centrist. They are the one applying it, and the text in itself is not far left oriented, it states basic humain rights and goes with the DDHC, that's probably the part you call far left oriented, bc it seems like basic humans rights are labelled as such lately. You should read it again (or read it at all), because you obviously don't know what you are alking about. And your name already state that trying to debate with you about anything is just a waste of energy and brain cells, and as we say, on ne débat pas avec l'extrême droite, surtout quand elle se cache derrière les pauvres pour tenter de faire appliquer son racisme.
Noticed the raised eyebrow when communists were mentioned lol
forgive him, he is American. He cannot understand that there are different branches of communism and that not all of them are authoritarian
@@TheJegan94But all “communist branches” are bad nonetheless.
@@TheJegan94just like how there’s different types of capitalism and people seem to think it’s always a democracy
its not even communist party
@@TheJegan94 Not really. It's like saying there's different branches of national socialist and not of all them are authoritarians. Or that there's different Islamist branches (Wahhabism/Brotherhood) and not all of them are authoritarian.
Nobody needs to be American to see that.
The so-called far right in France is just a party that wants to be patriotic and demand the application of laws.
In reality, more French people voted for the patriotic party (RN) than for the other parties, but as votes are counted by mayoralties.
In fact, if you add up the RN and the traditional right-wing party, they have more seats than the left-wing party.
At the end of the day, the right will counter the proposals of the left and vice versa. The only party that will be able to decide will be Macron's party (which is also globalist).
The left-wing prime minister is going to have all the problems thrown in his face, starting with the lack of security at the Olympics for exemple. For me, it's Karma, because the left-wing party has an exaggerated policy of reinsertion towards criminals and has no notion of punishment.
Hello McJibbin. Do you know that the notion of “left” and “right” in politics comes from France? At the time of the French Revolution, the members of the first constituent assembly were distributed as follows: to the left of the hemicycle (the French National Assembly has the shape of a hemicycle), those who wanted to abolish the monarchy (and to the passage condemning the king to death) and establishing the Republic, to the right of the hemicycle, those who wanted to maintain the monarchy but just give more power to parliament (a bit on the British model). Since then, we classify on the right those who are rather conservative, or even reactionary, and on the left those who are progressive, even radical, even if we no longer refer to the monarchy.
European political systems are predominantly "parliamentary", meaning that parliamentarians designate the government responsible for implementing the country's policies. The president or the king only have a symbolic role for the unity of the country. In the USA, the regime is “presidential”, meaning that it is the elected president who appoints his government to implement his policies; parliamentarians can just block him from time to time or dismiss him in the event of a crisis. In France, we have a bastard system: it is the elected president who appoints the government, but Parliament can dismiss this government if it does not agree with its policies, forcing the president to appoint another. Indeed, when the parliamentary majority is not from the same political camp as the president, it's a government which corresponds to the parliamentary majority which is appointed. This is called “cohabitation”.
Since 2000, parties have solved this problem by holding legislative elections (to elect deputies) immediately after presidential elections, to be sure that the parliamentary majority is on the same side as the president. But the current problem is that President Macron has become so unpopular in France that his party is losing all the so-called “intermediate” elections. At the beginning of June, he lost the European elections (to send French representatives to the European Parliament) against the far right and immediately decided to dissolve the National Assembly (no one understood why, Macron seems to have lost control). Thus, if he had a small relative majority in the Assembly (250 deputies from his party), he no longer has a majority at all (only 150 deputies from his party remain). It's the left which has managed to unite which comes first with around 200 deputies, but as this is not enough to have a majority either, we do not really know who the new government will be. ..
In France "Parti Communiste" adheres to increased social policies and whatnot but they adhere to a form of communism that is about reform instead of Revolution.
All in all it is not a center left party but it is still a fairly mild brand of leftism despite what the name could indicate. Our most extreme far left parti is calle "Lutte ouvrier" (workers struggle) and defends a very unrealistic programme but they do like 0,5 % of the votes or something so they are not relevant at all.
Left won the second round ! When three candidates were facing each other with the national Rally given winner, the third candidates of the NFP and Macron's party all gave up the election, so that the votes of their electors go to the least extreme party. This allowed the RN to be in third place instead of first, with a quite balanced assembly
But "Front Populaire" is extrême. It's not just about Far right.
@@tibsky1396 Is the NFP worse than literal Fasci?
@@tibsky1396nop it is'nt.
It's still democrate camp. "lutte ouvrière" or "NPA-révolutionnaire" are. They're anticapitalist and rebellious.
But not "NFP" with "LFI" or "écolos" or "PS". It's just left wing. None of their propositions are anti-republican.
At the opposite, far right propose to make differences between french citizens from different origins. That's anti-republican, that's extrem 👌
@@a.gachette5019 It especially Social Chaos, Insecurities or Dhimmis's attitude.
@@tibsky1396 that's your point of view... That's not enough to say it's extrem.
1:32 The video tells lies. 50,01% makes you elected on first round IF AND ONLY you have collected a number of votes at least equal to 25% of the eligible voters share in their constituency. For example, in Martinique's (not on the map, obviously) 4th Constituency incumbent Jean-Philippe Nilor got 63,18% and 15 405 votes. He still had to go through second round because the 15 405 votes only represent 18,25% of registered voters. And therefore, what the video says is wrong: he's not elected on first round even though he got +50%.
C un exemple il on jamais dit qu'il était passer, juste il prend une préfecture au pif et montre les candidats et ce qui ce passerais si x avais la majorité
@@comando_gaming391 Non c'est faux et vous racontez n'importe quoi. Qu'importe l'exemple ou la préfecture: le commentaire dans la vidéo dit en anglais «Si un candidat obtient 50% des voix, il est élu». C'est FAUX. Le candidat doit obtenir 50% des voix POUR AUTANT QUE 25% des inscrits aient voté. On peut donc voir des candidats obtenir 50% des voix SANS être élus (si moins de 25% des inscrits ont voté).
@@nashtags j'ai pas dit n'importe quoi j'ai dit que c'était un exemple, j'ai pas dit que ce que tu disais été vrai ou faux
@@comando_gaming391 Et bien son exemple est FAUX. Il omet de préciser qu'il faut 25% de participation des inscrits pour passer avec 50% des voix.
This is mostly not about the current election. Today the election was only legislative, not presidential. You might compare it to midterm elections in the US. For the politics, Macron is right wing and LePen/Bardella are far right wing. Macron is one of those "neither left or nor right" politicians, which in reality always means right wing.
As in the US, the goal posts have moved to the right particularly in the media which is owned by right wing businessmen and corporations. So now, the "center" has also moved to the right. Leftist Mélenchon is no more to the left than candidate Jospin was 20 years ago but much of the media foreign and domestic calls him far left.
The French president is the representative of the country abroad, leads the foreign policy, leads the army and decides when to use the nuclear weapons. He also typically appoints the prime minister (except in situations like here where the majority party in parliament is not the presidential party). The Prime minister is the one that appoints all the ministers, and decides of all the internal politics (within the country). Usually they are going together as often times the president has a marjority in parliament since both presidential and parliament elections take place around the same time (a few months apart), but technically the prime minister and government has to reflect the parliament and has to have the support of the parliament
Actually in France the president decides and the ministers and parliament members obey
@@captainpawpawchannel I am saying what the constitution says. If you don’t believe it you need to check by yourself. Maybe it didn’t occur to you that everyone agrees with the plan of the president and wants to deliver it, only they know French people will never be happy and always will need a scapegoat. Which is the president
@@maxxie84 this is the theory, in practice the president of the 5th republic is the monarch, he has all the powers except during cohabitation, and even then he can be a pain in the *ss
Cohabitation would be like the vice president and the president being from opposite parties^^
This night, the NFP "won" ( no absolute majority, but having the most seats ), so it is likely that macron chooses someone from the NFP to be Prime ministry.
Technically, the president can choose ANYONE to be PM, even me ( i'm french citizen ). However, if he chooses someone that doesn't have support of the biggest group in the parliament, then it is likely that he won't be able to make any laws, because that would be rejected by the parliament
The prime minister can be dismissed by the Parliament if it doesn't fit its requirements, so it's not only a question of laws. The President has to find someone the Parliament will accept
@@noefillon1749 I know, i was keeping it simple haha ( i'm french, i know it's a mess XD )
In the US, there’s no equivalent to a prime minister since the US president holds absolute power. So I think the closest equivalent would be the US speaker of the house being from a different party to the Us president.
About extreme party:
I don't know how it work in us ; the academic point of view is usually about if tje party's are align or not with the systhem (in other word if they want to reform the country by using the actual rules or by bypassing them)
It's not set in stone tho; for example one of the NFP's sub-party "france insoumise" (=france unbound) is classifed by the intern ministery and the state council as a left party but in the same time a handful of centrist / right party consider them as far left because of their divisive position on some key subdject.
About comunists:
In france there is two main party with the comunist ideology:
The far left "lute ouvriere" (worker's fight), and the left wing comunist party. The first one is independant while the other have allied with the other to form the NFP.
Also, pls, when the channel that did that original video do the video about tonight's election, can you react to that also?
President (head of state) and Prime Minister (head of government) have very distincts and active roles. They can technically work "together" but this cohabitation is really tricky, France lived twice under this configuration (Pdt Mitterand / PM Chirac, Pdt Chirac / PM Jospin) but the configuration was not as polarized as today.
And Bardella is indeed quite young, he's 28.
And just for some more information, a "lockdown" would not have the same consequences as in the US. If no middle ground can be found for the budget, there is a bypass rule : the previous budget is copied/pasted for next year.
It is 12.5% of the people who are able to vote, not those who cast a ballot. So if only 50% of the people actually vote, you need 25% to qualify to the second round. Usually there are 2 or 3 candidates that qualify (extremely rarely 4), then they can do what they did this year, make alliances for the 3rd in voting share to step down in favor of one of the other 2 candidates. I believe the idea was to manage to have a clear majority with a clear opposition party. Having the assemblée nationale divided in 3 was not part of the plan.
Les Républicains are the traditionnal right wing party like in the US but it's a fairly recent name they took, to copy the US, and they keep losing elections since they took that name. Every other party in France that have républicain somewhere in their name is a party to the left of the socialists.
The assemblée nationale is fonctionnally similar to the chamber of representative, France also have a Senate with a more reduced voter pool (you have to be an elected official to be able to vote for the Senatorial elections)
The situation as is stands is somewhat similar to the US where Biden and Johnson are from different parties. To have a functioning majority, Macron would have to have to form a government with the NFP or at least most parties within NFP. Or he'll have to wait one year to call new elections.
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The eyebrow raise when he heard communism, average american. Vive la Commune de Paris
In France, the executive power is two-headed. The President of the Republic elected by direct universal suffrage. And the government, with a Prime Minister from the legislative elections.
Two popular legitimacies are currently opposed, but the institutions were designed so that when an elected President of the Republic loses the majority in parliament, he resigns.
There he cannot resign, or cohabit with the Prime Minister, since a party with an absolute majority to impose itself in parliament...
To sum up our French political institutions:
- we elect the President by popular votes. She/he has the power to choose the prime minister as well as the members of the cabinet. It is a custom to give him the upper hand on foreign relations and he also choose several people to high administration positions.
- we also elect the main chamber of the legislative branch according to the system that has been described. The second chamber (the senate) is elected by local elected people, mainly mayors and people in local chambers.
The government is nominated by the French President but it answers to the legislative branch which can overthrow the government (minus the president). So the real day-to-day politics is decided in the parliament.
If the President and the legislative branch are in a disagreement, laws and politics are decided in the parliament. The President has no veto power and is obliged by the constitution to sign the voted laws.
The President can dissolve the chamber - which President Macron just did - but only once in a year. Anticipated presidential elections? The successor is still bound by the « once I a year » rule.
So France has a parliamentary institutions with an elected President who is supposed to be above the political fray and conveys his own democratic legitimacy.
I'm so impressed how good you understood this very complicated election:
Please react to round 2 results 😂😂😂
Really agree on the final message
Connor you have to understand that in Canada, all Commonwealth Countries, European Countries they have a Parliament House of Commons or House of Representatives if there a Republic. As long as your 18 years old by the Election date you can vote. anyone who is 18 must register once only to get there name on the voters list. They show a piece of Government photo ID Passport or Drivers Licence as well as something with there address on it. They get there ballot and go and vote. They put the ballot in the ballot box and there done. They don't have to tell anyone who there voting for that's confidential. The rest of the world doesn't run like the USA Electoral Process where you register every election and have to tell who your voting for that is no one's business but your own.
Everyone in Canada who is 18 years old before October 5th 2025 and up can vote in the Canadian Federal Election. We have 6 Major parties: Progressive Conservative, Liberals, New Democratic Party, Christian Heritage Party, Green Party, Partie Bloc quebecois (only in Quebec). You vote for your MP in your area. Here in Canada you get a Ballot and go to a polling station and vote and put the card back in the Envelope and hand it to the person and he puts it in the computer and the vote gets counted to that person. We don't have to tell anyone who we are voting for that's confidential and no ones business. The Party with the most votes wins the election. You must get 75% or higher to get a majority Government. The Leader of the Party becomes Prime Minister of Canada that is if he wins his/her riding. If the leader loses his/her riding they must resign as leader and a new leader of the party is elected by the members of the party.
In the U.S. you don’t have to reregister each election and you are never required to say who you voted for if you don’t want to (some still consider it impolite to even ask unless it was a pollster asking - but people overall are increasingly willing to share who they voted for, in part because for many it has somehow become part of their identity in these highly polarized times).
You register when you come of age and normally only re-register if you move (change address) or if you wish to change which party (if any) which you’re registered with. I said ‘normally’ because there is a movement by one of the parties to, shall we just generously say, ‘be overly zealous at “purging” presumed deceased or moved voters from local registers’ and manage to inevitably end up “inadvertently” getting current but inactive voters swept up in the process and “by accident” it’s always happening in areas that favor the other party. 🙄
@@gregweatherup9596 but your élections system have a big fail, your house of representatives do not allocate seats to minor parties such as your green party etc so you are still stuck in this eternal right left divide and you doesn't create your 3rd way by having all of your minors parties as your central coalition for break with you duality between the right and the left and the major problem réside on your mentality of "The winner takes it all" that we doesn't understand in France.
@@Bapterion01 Although I mostly agree with you, I’ll raise 3 points:
A) What does that have to do with my particular comment here? I was addressing misconceptions about the secrecy of the ballot and registration procedures. Why was your comment addressed to me here?
B) Our “minor parties” (“third parties” in typical American parlance) are truly minor. The best a third party has done in recent House elections was in 2000 when the Libertarian party managed to get 1.6% of the total vote, and that was rather anomalous (in the last 3 elections the libertarians have gotten 0.7%, the Green Party has been 0.2 to 0.1%, the Constitution party sometimes gets 0.1%, and no other party has reached even 0.1% since 2014). Thus if we had a proportional system they would fall below any reasonable electoral threshold. (Of course the counter argument is that if we had a different electoral system peoples voting behavior would be drastically different). In the recent history of our lower house (house of representatives) we’ve had 3 truly independents win competitive elections (Bernie Sanders in Vermont 1990-2004 before he switched to the Senate/Upper house - and 3 of his 8 weren’t really competitive), Jo Ann Emerson in Missouri’s 8th in 1996, and if you go back to the early 50s there’s also Frazier Reams in Ohio’s 9th. Technically there’s 1 more case of someone who originally won election under one party, then switched to Independent and won as an incumbent independent (Virgil Goode Jr in 2000- though it wasn’t really a competitive race) and some of the non voting delegates from the territories are officially “non partisan”, but’s it’s understood which party the individual candidates align with, so none of those are really independents who won in competitive elections. As for actual third parties elected to the house, ignoring non-competitive electoral fusion candidates out of New York (ie William Carney in the early 80s & the surprisingly 3-way fusion ticket of Vito Marcantonio in the 30s & 40s - though his last 1948 election was competitive as he was no longer a fusion candidate) you have to go back to the 40s to find any truely competitive race where true 3rd party candidates won any seats in competitive races.
C) France’s National Assembly is really only one step removed from FPTP - in your second round all triangulaires & quadrangulaires are “winner take all”, so the concept is clearly not that foreign to the French.
In my opinion, I'm pretty well-informed and honest. But to be clear, I'm voting for the NFP.
First, European politics seem to have shifted to the right. European politics are now approaching those of the US, where anything left-wing is considered bad.
By "left-wing," I mean "against unchecked capitalism." It's not about Stalinism, but about democracy, with people truly having a say.
Ensemble (Macron) is a kind of democrat (but like US Democrats, they're more like centrists). They represent startups and billionaires and are loved by the media.
RN (Le Pen & Bardella) are openly racist. They're kind of like Trump, but even less competent. Like Trump, some media outlets (like Fox News) have helped them a lot by changing people's worldview (making immigrants the sole enemy for everything).
LR (the Republicans) are similar to your mainstream Republicans (before Trump).
The NFP is a coalition of democratic parties. The left wing of the NFP (France Insoumise, Jean-Luc Mélenchon) is very similar to Bernie Sanders. They consider both ecology and people (any people), claiming that with a good wealth repartition, humanity cam fight against climat change and poverty. They are the most "woke" in the NFP. The France Insoumise is the majority in the NFP but the other parties are often ready to betray them for a power.
The communists in the NFP are far from the original communism. They're actually to the right of Bernie. They represent the (white) working class and don't really care about the ecology.
The PS (Socialists), who used to be as democratic and moderate as Joe Biden, are now just a part (a right-wing part) of the NFP. Macron came from them.
Finally, the "ecologists" are a middle-class, pro-environmental movement. They don't really care about the poor.
Bardella and Le Pen are not racists
@@Pingouin250 He's a crazy leftist, don't listen to him.
NB : Tre far right party Rassemblement National was created by some french waffen SS and collaborationists...
French here.
Don’t get it twisted. We hate Macron and we do not wish him well. But we’re smart enough to believe the far right is never the right answer. Ever.
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@@rowenn1729 is that your mugshot ? 😏
Nor the Left Right. we are no longer in 1945, the most extreme today, Mélanchists are way more extreme than RN. France is just screwed with extremist pro-Islamists, man ^^ RN is no more the most extremists for a moment.
The left managed to win by compromising with center. They can negotiate. Unlike RN who lost 10 elections in a row because the majority of the population has what is called "a brain".
Far Left is the answer then? Islamic jihadists are the answer? Persecuting christians, jews and other non-muslims is the answer? Sharia Law is the answer? I wonder how long before Notre Dame is made into a mosque
01:28 in. You know what ? As an american, don't even try to understand. I am 45 living in Luxembourg, so I watch what is happening in my neighbor countries (Belgium, France and Germany) since very young.
France never had that situation (Germany and Belgium did) like that.
Please you don't whant to get involved in that crazines.
Germans and Belgians are used to not have a "real governement" (it is not even the real word, but majority... making a lot of compromises).
The Belgians have been over one year without a real governement.
Don't get into this. What I am saying here is easy for all parties involved to try and do this in one or 2 (even three/four weeks)... but they are not used to it at all.
I saw your video with Rishi Sunak passing the torch and ok, great... don't try commenting to much here (there is Nato etc involved to)
Have to say this was a better and more well explained video than the one you watched about the UK election.
You said Jordan Bardella looks young - you’re right, he’s only 28. On the other hand, President Macron’s only 46 too!
It's very different between France and Usa :
In France every of our political officials have the same chance to be elected president of the Republic regardless of the age of the candidate.
In USA there is many criteria for be elected president of the Republic and then many of your officials haven't this chance.
The trouble with centrism is nothing gets done. It becomes stale.
Or that it's just super capitalism that only benefits the elites
well thats just wrong under macron lots got done just off the top of my head, abortion entered the constitution, the defence of ukrainian demoacry is ongoing, the reform to pensions took place (regardless of your or my views on it), new nuclear power stations are being announced, massive funding for renewables have been allocated, loads of medical staff during covid were granted citizenship, unemployment has dropped from 9.5 to 7.1%,Made dental services, eyeglasses and hearing aids free, promoted trains over planes by banning short haul flighs, boosted the French defense industry. you might disagree with many things but you cant say nothing gets done.
Lets be realistic
Macron wont ally with NFP because almost all NFP revendications want to destroy everything that Macron built since 2017
Well to be fair most of what Macron built is austerity reforms and selling government properties (and privatization rights) to his former employer (a huge french bank).
And most of his laws were passed by using a loophole in our constitution allowing him to bypass our senate's ruling (but is supposed to be used only for times of military crisis)
He is the cause of one of the biggest times of civil unrest in France since the revolts of May 1968.
And his party allied itself numerous times with the VERY Far Right 'National Rally' against very common centrist reforms or in favor of heightened security laws and less accountability for the Police Nationale (not the cops from Gendarmerie Nationale - which is a military branch usually properly trained - but the Police Nationale which is independent and have many times made highly unlawful and harmful acts against citizens and left leaning parties of the 'opposition').
Which resulted in many LAWFUL citizens being illegally beaten, permanently blinded, losing limbs, or sometimes even killing bystanders or endangering children in school.
But NFP did keep their word to desist themselves wherever their presence on the ballot might get the Far Right elected.
Macron's party at first said they would, but in most cases chose not to (and then lost all those seats to the Far Right)
Président Macron (Ensemble Party or EN) has a centrist official program but in office very regularly acts in a very right-leaning way (austerity projects, security reforms, regularly overruling the senate by a presidential loophole for times of military crisis..). In action it is closer to the usual US republican party (without Trump).
The National Rally (RN) is far far right, with many anticonstitutional projects, and consider a big part of the population as unworthy of basic human rights (many old men from the wrong side of WW2 created this party, they still have the same underlying ideas that from their founders - the head of the party is literally the same family - JeanMarie, Marine and Marion-Marechal LePen). It is closer (in actions and afiliations) with the US Trump rally and its heaviest followers.
NFP is a big group of parties, with a range from centrists to regular left (our centrists are closer to actual US Biden Democrats, and our left moves around the goalposts from Obama Democrats to Bernie Sanders' party).
The main party in this coalition (ranked 3rd at last presidential election) is La France Insoumise or LFI. They would be the closer we have of a mix from Obama and Sanders' social progress (their main project is to raise minimum wage a bit and crack down on financial tax fraud)
Les Republicains or LR is very right wing, on the verge of far right, in between Macron's EN party and the National Rally. The former big 'usual right wing' party, they went bust after a lot of repeated scandals for heavy fraud and corruption, and now have very little followers (their old followers and polititians divided themselves between Macron's EN and the extreme far right RN)
The PCF (Le Parti Communiste Français) is a very mild far left, with its most anticonstitutionnal projects being to pass laws seizing some long-abandoned buildings to shelter the homeless in exchange for them to rehabilitate said buildings.
With the increase in popularity of the right and far-right leaning parties, French's left wing voters have increasingly progressed little by little to the center-right (Overton Window), and thus this PCF is a dying party with around 1-2% in usual elections.
I hope this helps having a better understanding of the current french political climate and voting tendencies!
Thank you a lot for your time and interest in this country
The US Republics are pretty much in the same place politically as the European Fascists.
it's 3 days after.... and it's the scenario 2b, no party got enough majority. Macron wants the scenario 2a, but the far left doesn't. so.... we enter in a unknown period of politic instability... Luckily, it's summer holidays, and there's the Olympic games.
Looking at what happened today regarding the alliances : the New Popular Front (NFP) is the first block, winning 177 to 192 seats but it's an alliance of multiple parties, mainly the kind-of-far left LFI (the equivalent of the Supreme Court stated that it's not a far-left party), the moderate left Socialist party (PS) and the Greens (EELV) which is smaller.
The first one to speak was the leader of LFI who said that he wanted the President to name a Prime minister from the NFP, and that he doesn't want to negociate with the Presidential party (which is delusional as no block has the majority). The a few seconds later, some member of the PS spoke on TV saying that they will behave like adults and to discuss and make compromises with other parties.
Representatives of the presidential party said they wanted to negociate with all forces except far-right AND far-left (mentioning LFI, even though it's not technically far-left, I think the center and right parties capitalize on the fact that the leader of LFI is a very vocal and controversial figure). I think said leader knew he would not be able to negociate with center parties (as they don't want to negociate with him) so he anticipated and said he wouldn't.
In my opinion seeing the wording of different representatives of the various parties, in the next weeks, most parties in the NFP will form an alliance with the presidential majority except LFI which will get isolated. OR LFI will find a way to get rid of its leader (which is not impossible) and start negociating with the presidential party. But for it to be successful they will have to convince the presidential party to get with them, which can only happen if the NFP stays united and the presidential party has no other choice but to negociate with the whole block. Nothing is less certain.
Good news is, people voted en masse yesterday and National Rally lost their bet and the coalition between center and left won.
Beyond political views: I feel more comfortable with a majority of experienced moderate leaders than be ruled by a 28 years old guy who said terrible things to foreign countries (US included).
Thanks for the video ;)
"Moderate leaders" ? Whom are you speaking of ? LFI ? Green ? Macron ? Who's moderate there ?
"Coalition between left and center". Yes exactly. Doesn't that ring some bells for you ? Immigration, naturalization, no borders, more UE, erase french culture in this world melting pot utopia ? Yes, they're both working on that. Two sides of the same coin.
As a centrist myself, I do agree with your views on the political situation in the world. These are troubling times for the moderates in the world. Extremes never solve problems, they cause even more problems.
Problem is the so called moderates often tend to dismiss all opposition as "extreme" while they may not be. For example here in France the State's Council (Conseil d'Etat) determines the political orientation of every party depending on what they stand for. And so the National Rally is considered Far-right (reminder here that this party was founded by former Waffen-SS, other French Vichy collaborationists and war criminals from the Algerian decolonisation war) while the NFP, as long as the France Insoumise (Mélenchon) are considered Left, not Far-left (they are reformists, while the far-left wants a revolution).
@@TheJegan94 You are right, LFI is just left, Mitterand is his reforms was much more extreme and yet not even considered extreme left. People who call themselves moderates (basically right, believing in austerity, flirting on many levels with the extreme right) is the reason why the RN is rising.
The problem also is here in France, Macron's been president for 7 years and in his medias he has constantly complained about the leading left wing party "France Insoumise" and while only pushing (moreso in the last 2 years) very unpopular laws using 49.3 (basically a veto) it only resulted in a big growth in popularity of the far right.
Idk how can you look at the crime rate and "refugees" harassing regular citizens and the growing persecution of anyone who's not "progressive" and think getting rid of them is extreme.
We need at least a 3-axis system to map the politics
One of them should be a Globalist - Populist axis
Why did you choose 12.5% of voters rather than the first two?
For simple political games which allow the creation of anti-democratic alliances and thus guide the final results.
Just like the division of constituencies allows the wishes of the majority to be distorted and overridden.
all this is just electoral manipulation organized by the political system in place to stay in power.
France has not really been a democracy for many years now.
I understand your inclination towards political parties that are at the center. They seem like the most reasonable ones and one would think that they are a little bit on the right side and a little bit on the left side, that they take "the best of both worlds". In reality, their conception of social justice is at best a veneer and is in France with Macron non-existent and their economic policies are extreme and ultra-liberal. The Party led by the president (now called "Ensemble") has been in power for the past 7 years and the president was part of the previous government who posed has socialist but was anything but. When the commentator says that "Ensemble" has "a progressive social agenda that includes environmental sustainability" it is a lie. For the past 7 years (or 10 if you include the previous government) they have been destroying public services, done anything they can to limit the progression of wages and turn the gap between the most wealthy and the rest of the population into a chasm. This, plus the President acting like he is a king in an absolutist monarchy (he is often referred to in France as "Jupiter" like the leaders of the gods of the Roman pantheon), and fearmongering about Islam and illegal (and legal) immigrants is what has led to the rise of the fascist party "Rassemblement National".
The funny thing is that I know more about other countries politics like US Europe, then I do off my own country 🇳🇵😅😂🤣
Hi! Just so you know, the second round was yesterday, Le Pen and the National Rally "lost" as they only got 130 seats over the projected 230 of the first round, Macron and the NFP take the most seats with about 160 for Macron and 180 for NFP!
So Coalition with NFP? or
Cohabitation with the NFP?
Are they likely to have to go again in 12 months? or can they make it work?
Everything is up for grabs, a cohabitation is inevitable I think, whether or not it will work, that is a great question. I guess we will see, the nfp has a very precise program for the first 15 days and then 100 days, if they stick to it and macron doesn’t play too much the a**hole, it can work, but i won’t be surprised if he does, and in that case, we’ll meet again in a year 🤷🏻♂️
@@antoinegulbol6171 It will never work. There's no program. Just utopists measures. Just as the militants don't work as human being. Just look at the streets where NFP militants gathered and shouted how they won the election. Look at the street and how they trashed it. Look at the statue, symbole of the so called "Republic" they claim to defend, where they sat and tagged outrageous statements, with no respect for the history of our country. And that's when they "win".
They're just here to destroy themselves and our identity with it. Nihilism at its best. NFP is not capable of creating, be it with the politics or the mere citizens voting for the said politics. They're only corrupting and destroying. Once again, we witnessed it. But hey, there's dangerous right wing fascists. Sure. Beware, fascism often lurks in area we have no idea of. Just like Rokhaya Diallo, who's out there to take the seats of white people in the NFP. You know, too much white people.
Plus about Macron doing what Macron does, you voted for him and NFP took their candidates out of the equation for "Miss 49.3" and Darmanin, just to name the most famous. So please, no lesson on "sticking to it". You helped Macron and he helped you. So don't whine you got what you vote for my friend.
Saying it can work, speaking of NFP program, with all that in mind, is really hypocrite.
@@antoinegulbol6171 I think you're forgetting something here : True, NFP got the more seats. But they're 100 seats away from any absolute majority. And without this, not only can't they pass any law (and you need one to "undo" the previous laws they were against), but they are exposed to any vote of defiance from the Parliament. In short : any "too left wing" government wouldn't last very long. Same goes for the far-right RN.
Paradoxally enough, the only one who could find a working coalition in this mess is... Macron (or at least his party), by uniting "moderates from the left" and "pragmatists from the right". Some LR and UDI representatives already hinted in this direction. It's a very twisted mecano, but it could work, in the end. Only problem : it will infuriate 2/3 of the voters in the country :D !
Just think of it like US midterms. An election but not for president. .
So you should deffo watch the latest of his videos about the second round results, but cohabitation (option 1) is like President was Trump, and prime Minister (the head of government, which actually decides of all the laws) would be Biden. We do have a senate and a parliament too in France :)
This system is useful to stop a party from going into power (here Rassemblement National) but it can lead to a stuck situation (like now, 3 major parties, no majority, debate and cohabitation is needed to run the country)...
post election update, we are cooked.
It's so over bros
Vive la Commune de Paris
Do not try to compare our Democratic or Republican parties to our French political parties.
Your most extreme American leftists would, in France, be considered economically speaking as rightists in France.
And our far-right parties, economically speaking, you will seem to be real communists.
And this is just a small example from an economic point of view. Our Latin culture is very different, more complex, nuanced, radical and volatile than Anglo-Saxon culture in general.
9:08 Kindof but not really. Imagine if the Speaker of the House was even more important, like important enough that people would view them as almost as powerfull as the president and by far more powerfull and important than the Vice President.
Now imagine you have a Democrat President with a Republican Speaker of the House - which iirc is currently the case - but with said more powerfull Speaker of the House. Even less would get done than right now.
Nooo if the president is left wing and the pm is right wing, in the US, it would be like Joe Biden and Mike Johnson.
Brit here. So is this vote for the Lower House? The equivalent of Congress in the US. If so, when is the vote for the Upper House, the Senate in the US?
The French upper house, the Sénat, is not elected directly by the people, but rather by the members of regional parliaments and local councils. Half of the Sénat is elected every 3 years - the last election was last year, so the next one will be in 2 years.
Senate are the guarantor of the institution with the constitutional court.
They voting system is made to be slow to change and resilient to "mood swing" or extremism.
The above comment explained the how I wanted to highlight the why.
Thank you Connor. I never knew how the French electoral system worked, we get a very brief news report about our near neighbour but it has never been explained as clearly as this. I would never have searched for it. So they vote twice and get a more reflective representative accepted by at least half of the constituents
@@emeline02 ??? Care to explain that ? Last time I checked, We only voted twice (2 rounds for the legislative elections).
And if you're talking about the European elections, there was only one round, and the winner was actually the RN, not the left...
Well, on the principle, during the first round you’d vote for the candidate you like best and during the second round for the one you dislike the least. So it’s not really like the elected candidate is accepted by more than 50 % of the constituents but more like the loosing candidate is rejected by more than 50 % …
The "R" on your cap kind of gives you away.😄
Does that 'R' stand for "Republican" or a baseball or American football team?
Please pardon my ignorance, I'm not "sporty"!!
@@brigidsingleton1596 The R is for Rogers High School in Newport, Rhode Island
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Oh, thank you for that info.
(It's just an unfortunate resemblance then, to 'R' for republican).
And actualy it’s 2b option…
Well, if we hold a second round, it's not to have the same list, obviously! It's like eliminations in a sports competition! Sorry, an American trying to understand French politics with just one round! A video on the second round would be helpful... it's between the two rounds that alliances are formed! You seem a bit panicked here! 😂😅😂
Pardon me,
Does anyone have any Grey Poupon ?
The centre is not necessarily a good idea - that's what we have in Denmark, and no one think they get what they want. Difficult to see where the government is heading, goals etc
You hate politics - but politics decides the rules of society (where you live 😊)
8:40 he is 28 year old
It's Nationalism or National Wellfare, depending if it's right or left-wing versus Globalism or Federalism. A lot of "isms"
As a French i could explain to all of our fans of our French politic :
Our législatives élections have always organised every 5 years between two presidential quinquennat and it's considered as our midterms élections.
In Belgium we call those parties "extreme"-right or "extreme"-left. I think that's more fitting and I share your concern that those extreme parties grow so fast around the world and are the root of a divided society. The problem is that it's a vicious circle where people vote for more left to stop the right and vice versa. Instead of voting FOR a party or person, people vote AGAINST a party or person. It's sad.
These parties rise when society is already divided beyond repair not the opposite. Nobody wants to face the problems making them rise so they will. Blame the root, not the fruit.
Note that in France, it is the constitutional council which defines which party is extreme or not. He checks whether the ideas professed are compatible with the republican principles enshrined in the Constitution, and therefore whether their program can be implemented within the framework of the Constitution or not. The National Rally is thus described as an "extreme right" party because its program cannot be applied without several modifications to the Constitution. “La France Insoumise” is not a party described as “extreme left” because its program can absolutely be applied within the framework of the Constitution.
There are therefore 145 far-right deputies and no far-left deputies in the French National Assembly.
Maybe, if they were not called extremes, this could help. The only extreme in France is le Rassemblement National. Because they want to destroy the republic and are from the Pétain governement during the 2nd WW occupation.
The left, in France is now sorts of Bernie Sanders.
It's important to know that the NFP is *not* "far-left". It is a broad alliance of parties, some more left leaning centrist, some furtger to the left. But the thing as a whole is not "far-left".
Just FYI, The governmental council has declared : NFP is considered "left wing", Rassemblement National is considered "Extreme right" (mainly because of their anti-republican and racist ideas, it's not an opinion btw, it's factual)
Yeah, the RN even had a candidate who said once in power, they will abolish the rule of law in order to pass laws that would otherwise be not allowed by the constitution, like racial laws.
(luckily that candidate lost in the 2nd round, but I'm sure his point of view is shared by others who won)
wanting his country secure from immigration is not racist....
@@arkdeso2864 discriminating rights ( deleting AME, no important jobs for binational citizens) ie : discriminating a group of humans, hierarchization of humans IS thé définition of racism. In France, freedom of speech is not the same. Racism IS not an Idea, it's a crime
@@FlagadorTV prioritizing his own people and looking for others after is not a crime, like, it's just common sense, i just don't understand the point.
@@arkdeso2864 The first article of the french constitution makes sure there can be no discrimination between french citizens.
The RN is asking for such discrimination, between citizens who would have only the french citizenship, and those who would also have another citizenship. Both are french citizen, and therefore the constitution doesn't allow you to discriminate between the 2, but the RN wants to do it anyway.
We also had a RN candidate who said in an interview that there was a distinction between the french citizens by law (the ones who have the citizenship), and the "french people" (his expression), the ones who he said were the "real" french. Later in the interview he mentioned that just looking at the people was enough to make the distinction between those who were only french by law, and those who were truly french (implying it was visible on their face, by either the color of their skin or what they wear)
News for you look on new EU party Patriots for Europe if Le Pen join them it will be 3 bigges right party in EU and this party is coalicion of right partys from Czech Republic,Austria,Spain,Hungary its good news for conservative and no this party or even Le Pen is not far right. Im from Europe
The left & right parties both serve the same master & it ain't the citizenry. And will implement the exact same (Klaus Schwab) policies
I really want to quit France after that élection
It seems that a lot of europeans want to leave europe and I don't blame them, your leaders only care about foreigners. Hopefully we'll see a change and have leaders that actually care about their people. Otherwise europeans will have to find home in countries not yet ruined by open borders and islam
With this result, France is lost to chaos.
Hello you marine le pen putin bot. What a wonderfull day today isn't it ?
@@chaden4747 France is just screwed with the extremists Pro-Islamists, man ^^
@@chaden4747 France is just screwed with the Pro-Isla***, dude.
@@chaden4747 France is just screwed with extremist pro-Islamists, man ^^
@@chaden4747 Sharia extremists will be able to do what they want now.
Hi, cool video.
The 2nd round result was this :
NFP (Left) : 182 seats
Ensemble (Presidential party and ally) : 168 seats
National Rally : 143 seats.
So we are in scenario 2. No party have a absolute majority (and more, no party have a great majority).
It was already the case before, Presential Party didn't have a absolute majority before but had a large majority compare to other party.
Now, we have to wait for some alliances to find a absolute majority somewhere, but it seems very difficult, so the probable scenario is the 2b and a deadlock for one year and a new election in 1 year.
And one thing, it's the NFP is an very weak alliance...
France is done and dusted now. It will be officially islamic republic of france.😂😂 Enjoy the city of love Paris 😂😂
Get real, bucko. France ain't becoming no Islamic Republic anytime soon.