Talking About Chinese Beauty Standards - Intermediate Chinese - Chinese Conversation
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2020
- Eileen and Frieda discuss the good, the bad and the downright weird aspects of Chinese Beauty Standards.
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I really think all skin colors are beautiful though your skin is in fact lighter than that of many Europeans (the ones from the Mediterranean) lighter than many Arabs too.
Your friend is also very beautiful. Yours is lithe and quick, graceful, even elegant, as an artist; hers is powerful and imposing, also elegant but in a regal manner.
@@QuizmasterLaw Freida is beautiful with a western style look.
Eileen is attractive with a Asian style look, particularly when wearing the traditional clothes
Thx :) I recently watch historical chinese dramas every day like yanxi palace, empresses in palace and so on and learn a lot of vocabularies from sub titles. Is this a good idea? how many percent of the words in historical chinese dramas can be used to communicate with average Chinese? Will they understand?
@@andia968 It's a great idea because it's content you are interested in which is gonna be around hsk3 level (marketing!) of course you will not use 妖精 in your everyday speech but you might in fact if you find other people who are into costume dramas (Hi! I am into costume dramas!) And then they may well explain to you other uses of 精 (uh, sperm lol!) or other yao sound alikes 要 for example.
Seriously, costume dramas are awesome, there might be some pointless vocab but you're into it and most of the vocab will be useful so by all means go for it 千年等一会!
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It hurts a bit to watch you compare yourselves to such standards - both are attractive by any reasonable measure!
Eileen - your bold, straight-talking nature and infectious smile add a lot too.
stop simping bro seriously!
The girl on the left is average looking. The girl on the right is pretty. And that is it. No need to exaggerate, Ryan.
@@pvn2474 She is not here to be judged by people.
@@edt8378 facts
@pvn2474
You are not the ultimate judge. What you find pretty is ugly to someone else, and vice-versa.
Consistently the most interesting channel for improving one´s Mandarin skills with real, original content. That´s really refreshing, seeing YT is full of "Top 10 beginners´ mistakes", "How to sound like a native speaker in 5 easy steps" or "Say these 3 things instead of 谢谢“.
我同意
If you exhaust all the content in this channel, you're straight up ready for just regular Chinese content
I agree with you, unfortunately, a lot of creators quickly realize that this is the kind of content that gets views, as opposed to a more learning/teaching-based approach.
most people don't actually want to hit straight up fluency in Chinese
On point, this is quality content!
geez louise, she is beautiful!!
i have a chinese friend who visited my hometown (in europe). the weather was nice, my friend put on some makeup and we went for a walk around city center. while we were waiting to cross a street, an old lady that was next to us gave her an apple from her bag because she thought my friend is not feeling well because she was so pale. my friend just found out that we associate unnatural paleness with feeling unwell and not necessarily with beauty standards.
😂🤣😃😏😋🤔 different standards for most but that's natural and as humans ages as do their ways!
My beauty standard is Eileen.
不好意思
@@addielmartinez9120 没有什么不好意思的。
@@codered4422 有不好意思的
嗯嗯嗯。。。我希望你不是一小变态网友。
SAME
Ngl Frieda is one of the prettiest women I have seen in my life!
huh
This is crazy, in Spain people get tans and draw freckles on their faces, it's considered beautiful
freckles are not those freckles, those are different
Freckles are cute
@@masonlang6933 not in korea. They prefer clean and silk spotless skin. They said whitening which means so spot on the face not actual colour only.
Research shows that
1) Western countries started around 1900 to admire, tan (but not dark)vs. earlier lighter the better.
2) Lighter is better developed in
class ( not rank or Hunter gatherer societies)- landowner, big merc .
3) Later, wealthy class in 1 country imposed its preferences
vs. ( sometimes) other country’s
peoples, of all classes.
As an American male, it's strange to watch two beautiful women tear themselves down over things which really don't matter. Looks might attract but after that first attraction, it really doesn't matter. You're not with them for freckles or lack of them, or light or dark skin, you are there because of who they are.
I enjoyed this very much. I am 59. Tears came to my eyes at the end when you two began to speak about true inner beauty.....The Chinese language and both of you are truly beautiful.
Wow! Freckles are considered cute and one of the "7 beauty markers" in the West! People even apply fake freckles these days ✨ Really shows we should let go of these standards and love our own individual beauty more! Both of you are stunning!
Eileen is smart enough to choose a controversial subject and delivered to us in an interesting and wise manner. I really appreciated the video. Thank you. Eileen is the host here, not to be judged by stupid people. Just learn Mandarin guys. no need to judge about others' look.
Quality of character is the foundation of true beauty.
Frieda is back! Definitely your most interesting guest. Great dialogue for getting used to native speakers casually talking together. CZcams needs more material like this for more advanced Chinese learners. gj
Frieda & Eileen太漂亮了
在我的国家（南非）大部分的黑人都想变白一点，反而白人都喜欢晒黑。虽然很多人跟着欧美的思想，但是还有一些人在跟着传统的非洲思想，比如：胖就是美，因为你能生孩子。胖也意味着你有钱，因为穷人没有钱买吃的。见仁见智，但是中国的看法对我们看起来比较奇怪。谢谢Eileen！你们每一个视频都即有用又有趣！
Edit: 百人to白人
中文表达能力超过70%以上中文母语者
Hi hao, Keyi kankan Mr Givins pengyou shang CZcams, Xie Xie.
应该说欧洲人在进入工业社会之前也是喜欢白的，农民的女儿要干活，而领主的女儿可以整天呆在房间里。工业社会变成工人要整天呆在工厂干活，而有钱人可以去打高尔夫，晒黑变成社会地位的象征。中国进入工业社会时受欧美影响很短，反而受苏联人影响更多，所以还是喜欢白色
In ancient Chinese times, women advocated whitening, because in ancient times, poor women had to farm to the fields, The skin is tanned with intense sunlight，and rich people and aristocratic daughters, include princess does not stay at home, the skin will become white, ancient people advocated aristocrats, so they will choose to whiten
Hello team Mandarin Corner. I want to let you know that your videos have become a part of our daily life. My wife is Chinese and at an intermediate level in English and I am at a beginner level in Chinese. We like to watch your walk around and interview videos as entertainment. Your Essentials videos we use for learning both English and Chinese as they have pinyin, Hanzi and English all on the same screen. Invaluable! Thank you so much for your energy and courage to provide interesting content. We both admire Eileen and hope you continue and grow this channel. 加油！
I have been learning Mandarin for a year and haven't come across this channel until now. This is free and high quality content
very interesting discussion - i think you are both beautiful and highly intelligent
I honestly hope society all around the world will progress enough to stop caring about beauty standards cos beauty (or whether you fit the modern standards or not) doesn't say anything about you as a person but your character, skills and interests do. That's what we should pay attention to.
please bring more video with Frieda when possible, you're both amazing women and i love your videos
My daughter is half Chinese and I LOVE how easily she tans, but my husbands response is usually “wow she got so black after just a day at park!” Like it’s not a good thing. It’s an interesting cultural difference.
Yes, they really hate dark skin.
The sun is very very hot in the tropics,very damaging to the skin.thats why we don't expose skin much to get tanned or burned.
im half chinese and i tan to be super dark naturally. when chinese ppl hear i am half chinese half white they are like how r u so black. im like what r u even trying to imply, stfu
This channel just keeps getting better. Eileen, you and Frieda should do more videos together. Great content and chemistry.
My boyfriend is chinese and when I said to him I weight 48kg he said it’s standard weight, not skinny. I was astounded because all my life I was being told I’m soooo skinny ( I’m European)
Watching all those beauty standards wow. Chinese women have it really tough.
Chinese women are generally shorter and usually have a petite figure. Imao it all depends how you carry the weight a fit 60kg will most likely look better/healthier than an unfit but skinny 50kg.
mabe he use the old standard,lol.Most chinese guy like just little little fat now.You know,that will be more comfortable to do that thing lol
I notice the audio is so much better than the last conversation you had with her. Whatever changes you made have helped
You women are both very beautiful. And I loved when Frieda talked about inner beauty and I think she’s absolutely right. You both have the beauty and confidence of people who are doing good and pursuing their dreams. This makes two already beautiful women really shine!
As for beauty standards, I live in the US and when in California I was teased relentlessly for not being dark skinned enough. Also my prominent nose was not well prized.
I feel in general healthy skin tiny waist, curvy but not too curvy any skin color, moderate facial features of whatever racial background. Noses small but not too tiny, long eye lashes, no body hair, dark eyebrows but not too bushy. These are the standards in the US. I think in a way we are trying to look unrealistically young too but with huge breasts.
Really, Frieda's charm is what makes her beautiful. She has such a positive and bright aura. 🤗
different standards in different countries? I guess that's true but as an old guy who has been around the world many times, all I have to say is that neither one of you two should ever have to wonder about your looks. you are both gorgeous, almost as pretty as my grandaughters. Whether or not you are beautiful in Chinese eyes is a subject you should never ever be concerned about.
You are very creative with your content! I enjoy the interviews every time !
As they say "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...you both are beautiful, inside and out.
Another great video with enlightening ideas and useful vocabulary. It's more than just language practice; it's also learning about different perspectives. This is a great channel on multiple levels. Keep it up Eileen!
These videos are so great, just the exposure is so amazing. Also the video itself is great, i love this channel its my favorite, i learn so much! Thanks!
Wow, great content! I loved this discussion. You guys made so many good points about the expectations by both Chinese and Western standards. And I learned a lot of vocab! 谢谢 Mandarin Corner ;)
Love the small animations added to the interview, really enjoyable to watch you two.
Fantastic interview! Your videos are the best and most interesting Chinese listening practice I've ever found. These are such a valuable resource, and the quality has become so fantastic. Interviews like this are my favorite part of Mandarin Corner. Frieda is a great guest, she has a good instinct for knowing when she needs to explain a reference or term in greater detail. And Eileen, you have are a great interviewer with good instincts for knowing what guests/topics will be interesting to listen to. Thanks for making this, looking forward to many more!
谢谢你的视频啊 审美标准在我们的社会是一个很受欢迎的话题 无论肤色，身材，眼睛形状等等每个人种是独特漂亮
So insanely obsessed with this channel😭❤️💖
Good to see you again Frieda ! Great content, thank you
Very nice video! I think showing real conversation, especially without slowing it down is the best way to learn the languange! Thank you for your content!
I love Eileen's personality. A beautiful personality augments a person's physical beauty ten fold in my opinion.
Very good as usual, I'll hope everyone can discover the great job you do every time!!!
Both of these women are gorgeous no question. It's great to see how different beauty standards are different around the world.
Frieda is back?? I remeber watching my first video from you guys like 2 years ago with her in it, it is still my favorite video to this day :)
I remember the first video with Frieda. Then, as now, I thought she is absolutely beautiful. Plus she is a smart determined and capable woman. And Eileen is in a class of her own as an interviewer.
I've been waiting for you to make a video about this topic, thank you so much!😊 I think it's more intresting and beautiful when people look unique rather than just follow the same standard. I'm intrested to know is there anything in China like body positivity movement in the West. For example, influencers who post pictures where they look "unattractive" rather than filtered perfection. I heard that a Chinese brand called Neiwai did a commercial campaign including different body shapes. It would be intresting to know what kind of discussion it sparks when someone (company or a person) tries to break out of the beauty standard (like the case with Zara model).
Great video Eilen!! Always excellent material, plus you are a wonderful interviewer, keep it up!! Cheers!!
What a great video! Content is fantastic, language learning a plus :)
再次一部非常有意思的視頻。謝謝妳們兩個！
Bravo! It takes a lot of guts to discuss one's physical shortcomings in front of the camera. 另一个非常饶有兴趣的视频。感谢你们.
Eileen, thanks for the video, great job!
This was a great discussion as always and was very interesting and helpful for learning new vocabulary !! 谢谢!!
Uah this was a very positive interview! You girls slayed such sensitive subject. It was informative and interesting!
In Russia we don't have this concept at all. We call people with darker skin "smuglyi/smuglaya" which even have a bit of soft and romantic air to it. Russians come in all shapes, forms and sizes. And many ladies love get darker in summer, get as much sun as possible.
Although we have other beauty standards to drive ourselves crazy with 😁😁. Every country will have some things for girls to get obsessed with or suffer from☹️. We speak and we speak about beautiful hearts and personalities, but in reality people great you by the look ...
Really interesting and informative video! Thank you for talking about this topic.
I like frieda sm🥰 the way she talks is so comfy to be heard
This channel is soooooooo cool. Here I can learn not only a language but also the culture and how the "real" native think about life. Sure I'll be a lifetime premium.
A million thanks Eileen. You are so beautiful and generous for providing us such videos. I must acknowledge your videos have helped me immensely with the Chinese language.
非常感谢Eileen， 你最审美的， 非常感谢给我们提供这样的内容对于我的中文帮助可大着呢。
I have watched Eilleen since end of 2017, when I started to learn Mandarin.
Hongkong, Shenzhen, some of her videos.
I wrote down a few of them.
At that time, she spoke sliwlier than now. I also watch XM Mandarin, Yoyo Ng, Chinese zero to hero, etc...
It improves my listening skills.
Last year I got Hsk-3, but recently when I wanted to take Hsk-4, the Confucius Institut in Jakarta closed down due to Pandemi.
Nowadays she speaks in normal speech. That's good.
I download this video to listen to later on...
Thx..
This was so interesting thank you very much for sharing your experiences !
they just described gollum from lord of the rings as the ideal beauty. white skin. high cheekbones. thin. under 50kg. small mouth. he's perfect!
Gollum..😂😂😂
Thanks so much for the amazing content! keep it going!!
Would love to see a similar video discussing Chinese beauty standards for men
Men are mainly expected to make money than focus on their looks.
It shows how different standards are around the world, because in Europe, Eileen and Freida would be very popular.
Freida in particular would get a lot of attention. I guess Chinese guys have a very different outlook.
I really enjoyed this discussion, and my favourite part was what Frieda said at the end. It was a great message.
I think Chinese beauty standards are a bit extreme, at least when many go through such measures to achieve them.
I don't think there's anything wrong with naturally being pale or very thin as long as you're healthy. But I'd also love to see more of the natural Chinese beauty which includes the smaller eyes and different complexions. They're beautiful too :)
Thank you beautiful ladies for this greath video again!!
感谢Eileen老师的努力，本视频很有用！
Nihao Keyi ni kanjian Mr Givins pengyou shang CZcams video, Xie Xie. Shenme ni puede? 🤔
Thank you for the great content. And thank you for having Frieda again. I definitely enjoyed her first introduction as rock-climbing women. Today's episode is a great continuation.
在德国，我们把Frieda视作非常漂亮的女人。
EILEEN IS THE ULTIMATE BEAUTY
Fantastic, intelligent discussion. Thank you.
Thanks for making such a great channel.
Very useful.thank you! 牛年大吉！
I am getting addicted to your videos very helpful as usual and Frieda you have a beautiful skin color , it is amazing How you developed different beauty measuring standard !
this was a very thoughtful and interesting conversation :)
my country of origin shares some aspects of this beauty standard
but the more you talk about inner beauty and healthy standards, the more it is a universal value
you need to love yourself and value yourself and develop enough qualities that you have confident in your own skin
it is very apparent that ugly and fat people must have a very hard life in asia (as many of these standards are peculiarly asiatic)
I came across these videos and I'm interested in what people have to say. The more I watch the more I want to learn Chinese! Even though I'm far from intermediate, watching these has helped to hear the difference between the tones. Language is both skill and knowledge after all, hearing the tones is hard when your brain filters them out as something not relevant to the meaning of the word
Eileen trying hard to not bust out laughing when Frida says ,"胖小孩可能在学校里会被欺负，然后要跑也跑不动，什么都不灵活”😂😂😂
You are both gorgeous.
you thirsty lil boy
SIIIIIIIMP!!!!
@@user-gp5je3fp6o 😂 😂 lol.. Iam girl I think they are gorgeous
nivea is a girl and she's cute too
真厉害！我爱您们！ 谢谢您！！
I think this is a very important topic to be having now.
omg love the guest's accent so much❤️
Marvellous talk
I like women tanned by the sun, with big feet, sportif, slim but with muscle, and the principal totally with inteligence in her brain and no shit , well educated, with great spirituality and conscious and not manipulated by media , you two are doing a great video, congratulations, and hugs from MX😃😄☺️🙂😉
Very nice dialogue. Learned some new vocabulary
As a fellow dark Chinese I totally support Frieda!
I have never thought skin colour affecting beauty.
You are both Beautiful ❤❤❤
Thanks so much for sharing
When I saw you for the first time, I was very surprised by your beauty😍🤩😧!
You both are beautiful. I love your skin tone so much.
这个题目非常有意思。你们辛苦了，谢谢！！ 对了，我真的觉得你们两个非常漂亮。
Nihao, Keyi ni kanjian Mr Givins pengyou shang CZcams,Xie Xie. Shenme ni juede?
If I were to describe Frieda's skin it would be 'Golden', and it's very beautiful.
亲切友好的谈话，还有你们两个都很漂亮。
Nihao Keyi ni kankan Mr Givins pengyou shang CZcams, Xie Xie.
很感恩你， 这个视频各方面都好，你的视频帮我在学中文的道路得多。我来自越南 😄
Nihao Keyi ni kanjian Mr Givins pengyou shang CZcams, Xie Xie. Shenme ni juede?
muy entretenido el video
我特别喜欢你们关于中国美文化非判断的角度！你们说的是真的有道理。
亲爱Eileen同听众,
some people maybe will ask and comment: - What trifling matter are you discussing this time!
I don't think so. Shortly speaking, I think instead that beauty and health are strictly connected together, in fact one can even consider himself a pleasant guy in spite of his consciousness of his own few or many lacks, when he is finally staying very well with himself, that is he has got finally accepted his minus points and become aware of his plus points!
In addition, I like your eyes very much!
😊
Frieda and Eileen are both perfect, I personally think women are most beautiful just how they are, they don't need makeup or even clothes to be the most powerful force of nature to me!
I am a Chinese woman and glad I live in US so I don't need to fit into the Chinese beauty standards. I checked against the standards Eileen & Frieda mentioned. The only standard I fit into is the size of my eyes. I failed at every other requirement. I am 5'4", 120lbs (54kg), wears size 2 /4/XS/S depending on the brand, fit, with proportional chest , waist and butt dimension (between rectangle and hourglass body shape per western definition). I have lightly tanned skin, round face with high cheek bones, small but not super full lips. Per Chinese standard, I would be an overweight, undesirable dark skinned, mean-looking , husband killing, unattractive women. But in US, I am complimented by a lot of people including my Caucasian husband as a petite, cute, healthy, fit, feminine, sweet , youthful, smooth skinned ,pretty Asian women. What a difference !
Two true beautiful, intelligent and kind women! ❤️❤️
100k views 3k likes, come on everyone leave her more likes, this material is genuinely fantastic for learning mandarin
Great video!
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This is so great. I loved it. You are both so lovely, both inside and outside. For me Fan Bingbing looks really weird. Not a fan of the pointy chin. When i was younger and used to go China people would praise me for my white skin. At first, i took it as an insult as i hated my pale white skin and was envious of the tanned asian skin. Love yourself and be happy as there is nothing more beautiful than a radiant person.