Top 5 WORST things about owning a 6 series (F12/F13/F06)
Vložit
- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
- There’s a lot to love about these cars, but there’s also a few bits that are a nightmare. What’s your least favorite thing about them?
Follow me:
IG: MedDev404 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
My guy just discovered panoramic roofs in 2023
Hahahaha
How is it that there are so many videos online where people dont get the difference between a sunroof and a panorama roof?
@@questionyourself718 people with single digit iQ allowed to own cars
Those birds are fucking up in that tree somewhere
also replace the rubber coolant hoses on top of the turbo with high temp silicone ones .. and replace the rubber t-connector with a brass one. you can DIY in 1 hour. Saved me $2500 because the high heat will eventually melt them. don’t wait until you get that “low coolant” warning..
$100 all in for the hoses, clamps and brass t connector
I replaced the PCV lines after they melted indeed. Common issues
Hey Mike where did u get the high temp silicone hoses and brass t-connector? I’m having same issue on my 2015 650GC and my 2016 750i
@@bakinec23 Amazon !!
Hoses : “HPS Performance 3/8" ID Black high Temp Reinforced Silicone Heater Hose, Max Working Pressure 80 psi, Max Temperature Rating: 350F, “
T connector: “Nigo Industrial Co. 3-Way Tee Brass Hose Fitting, 3/8" x 3/8" x 3/8" ID Hose Barb Pipe Fitting (Pack of 3)”
Clamps / crumpet tool : Proster Single Ear Stepless Hose Crimper Tool Kit, 1pcs Single Ear Hose Clamp Crimper with 150pcs 6-31.6mm 304 Stainless Steel Cinch Clamp Rings
**I used 2 clamps on the t connector just to be safe because it’s slightly smaller than the diameter of the hose.
**once finished, wrap all the hoses with heat shroud :
“Design Engineering 010405 Heat Shroud 1/2" - 1-1/4" I.D. x 3ft Aluminized Sleeving for Ultimate Heat Protection (with Hook and Loop Closure)”
Higher quality clamp (slightly more expensive):
“Ideal Tridon 6406051#6 Stainless Steel Worm Drive Clamp with 410 Stainless Steel Screw 64 Series, 3/8" to 7/8" Diameter, 1/2" W (Pack of 10)”
All in should be 100$~150$. 1-2 hour fix. (Faster if you’ve done it before)
Let me know how it goes
Did you happen to do a video on how to do it ?
@@melrosabal3564 I don’t sorry. There are people on CZcams that have videos up
A huge underrated rare option on the 650 to have is the 2VA adaptive drive option which hydraulically auto levels the cars. Huge help with stability.
Is that not available on 640i?
@@pheonixblaster9485 Yes, i have it on a 640d 2015
Typical American fashion. It’s a moonroof!!! Not a sunroof. There’s a difference folks. But yes the oil consumption is annoying there’s work arounds for that. There’s aftermarket add ons to assist in keeping the engine cooler and preserving your oil. Also upgrading to a thicker oil helps as well. I saw someone say 5W50 idk about that, but I definitely use 5W 40 Liqui-Moly!!! Haven’t had an issue sense. The real issue is that those fuels pumps that will blow around 60k-80k miles. Also the same for those fuel injectors. Upgrade those spark plugs and change those ignition coils at 60k-80k.
Add coils overs and R888rs it will feel much more responsive and eat the tail of the dragon brother. Nice Vid.
Kudos for the Andromeda Initiative ink and the N7 badge on your BMW
@@Wafflelover344 nicely spotted!! It’s my favorite badge on the citadel
@@MedDev404 I'm a random CZcams user and this is my favorite comment on this video
I have a 13 gc and yeah that sunroof thing still kills me. I also wish they would've added remote start as a standard feature. And not that many people drive my car, I wish I didn't have to hold the seat memory button to put it back in position.
I have a 2015 650i GC, and I agree with your list. At first, I was a little put off about the moonroof not sliding back and thought something was wrong with it. But I learned that it's that way by design due to the curve of back of the roof. I wish there was more aftermarket support for the 6 Series. It's such a beautiful design, especially the coupe and gran coupe. I've seen a few good videos showing engine mods for the 550i which has the N63tu.
Very helpful video!
BMW stands for one thing BREAK MY WALLET! 💸💸💸
It def can sometimes but the fun you can have with these cars IMO is worth it
I just bought a 2015. I reach at my waist for the seat belt to avoid reaching over the shoulder. I don't worry about weight of a car. I had a jetty and when it was really windy I felt like a was about to flip over
The worst thing i've found is a cabin filter change. 2014 m6 f13 owner.
What badge did you put on the back? I think it cheapens up the look of the car.
When you slide the sun roof control back the first time, it opens the sun room screen. Pushing the sun room control up with pop the sun roof. If you want to open the sun roof, side the cotrol back a second time.
Is how it works in most cars. The 6 series’ roof doesn’t open more than shown in the video for some reason
I got a $7k maintenance bill to pay on Friday. But I love my Ava Braun. 640’s are amazingly fun to drive.
U ever done anything to the suspension? I have a F13 640i Msport 2016 , and the rear driver strut started to leak and I know these suspensions are electric because of the dampening control ? Cost per strut depends where u go shopping so around $500-800 per strut 🤦♂️, do u have any knowledge about going a different route like replacing with a full suspension like bilstein/bc / H&R ? Or just stick to oem for ride comfort lol
I had to subscribe bro u just saved me from upgrading my 2009 328i
These are great cars. I love mine. Every car ha pros and cons!
with the intakes in the front behind the grill, do you have issues driving in the rain?
I’m looking at a 2013 640 would you recommend it as compared to the one you own I heard sumwere that the older the model the better 😅but idk 🤷🏽♂️
Got a 2015 F06 fantastic cars , do my own work , true very little content on DIYs, F10 plenty somewhat similar other than the body , Lets hope your channel will bring some
Which bodykit/boot lip/sideskirts/rear diffuser do you have? I have a 6 series coupe but the LCI version post-facelift, and I'm thinking about modifying it as well.
Front lip and side skirts are CarbonFactoryUK and the spoiler and diffuser are RW Carbon
The only difference will be the mirror caps
Nothing too crazy, about to get my hands on a 2014 f13
Either the second generation 6 series used a lot less oil or I just got lucky because I never need to add a drop of oil between oil changes! Mine is a 2008 650i.
My 2012 550i says 5420 lbs but it feels and slides and drifts as if its a 3 series 😃
That's The gross vehicle weight max load. Curb weight on a 550 wet is around 4400.
@@registrationaccount1034 Yeah you're right. 👍
I’d also like to add again (bcz Ive have the same car).. you should hose down or clean your intakes / radiator grill. They look filthy & They trap a lot of bugs, dust and filth (esp in Florida with all the extra pollen & leaves too)…Did mine and my engine performance was definitely better and helped it breathe much better.
How dark is the tint film on your lights
I own a 650i gran coupe and definitely agree. Good luck finding diy advise and parts. It will be a fun few years working owning this one.
I had a 535i F10 there was so much info and parts available for that model.
I went from a F10 M5 sadly someone hit me and it was total, but owning the F06 sucks, I’m almost 2 years in and I’m researching my next car now. I can’t take that there is no aftermarket for it. This GC will last another 6-8 months and she’s gone. Sitting this low will drive you crazy after a year
If you’re burning that much oil your engine needs attention right away! I’ve owned three 640d’s and never had to put oil in any of them. They’re fantastic cars.
Well this is a 650i, not a 640d??? The N63 oil consumption issue isn’t exactly a new or unknown thing
Yeah i got a 640D .... great with oil. I've heard the N63s are troublesome. That's why i got the 640D. Best engines apparently..even though they're diesels. 👌
@@MarkGShepherd yeah the low HP diesel never would have worked here in the USA. Especially not with the availability of the excellent N55 for base models.
You found a one in a million bmw then if it don’t burn any oil
That sun roof was disappointing
What did you suspension wise? I have an 05 645ci. I want to buy a camber kit for it. The brand "Lykt" pops up on ebay for rear camber kit for my car. I have read some reviews on line about this brand but non for the 6 series. Your rear wheels appear to be close to zero camber. Could just be just the angle of the camera. Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks
You have an E chassis. I’d look for info from groups specific to that car. As for camber? Yeah no thanks. Not a fan. Good luck.
@MedDev404 So your camber is stock? I'm at 0.9 degrees I'd like to be at 0 camber
Top 1 worst thing about owning a 6 series is it's not an M6
One question how about engine issues?
You need to get a big burndown box/ or catch can will solve that consumption. Make sure it’s vented to atmosphere
4:44 ya, I really wanted a 5 or 6 series, but 0 content, looks like too much work. I'll just get a 3 series and it'll be easier to get parts. Shame. I like the big luxury coupe barges.
I say this now.... I probably make the stupid decision anyways. I can't help myself, you tell me something shouldn't be done and I want it.
Taste is subjective and you like what you like. I LOVE GT cars.
Is the weight really that noticeable ? I’m thinking about buying a 440i F32 or a 640i F13.
640i comes with 320bhp. Even tuned, the N55 will make about 400whp, roughly the same as a stock 650i
The car is very, very heavy. It’s a luxury GT car. A 440i will be noticeably faster.
@@MedDev404the 640i is around 150kg lighter than the 650i + the sunroof weights a lot, that's why I don’t want a sunroof because it’s useless anyways and just increase the weight
not sure if this is relevant to the n63 but in my M6 i put 5w-50 and never had to top off on oil again. 5w-30 is too thin and messes with the rods. Seems like youre from florida which means consistent warmer weather which is why a thicker oil is beneficial. Check the forums many have switched to 5w-50 with positive feedback.
Great feedback ! Would 5w-40 be beneficial??
@@MedDev404 I live in NYC so during the summer I run 5w-50 but in the winter it gets pretty cold im thinking 5w-50 would be too thick. So i might run 5w-40. I would say anything above 5w-30 would be okay. If youre looking to run 5w-50 I recommend redline!
@@CrocDaKIngg37 in nyc you don’t need anything else other than 5w-30
Were you able to fully open your sun roof?
Hey i have 2015 bmw 650i gran coupe and my engine went out soon as i bought it rod bearings went out luckily I bought aftermarket warranty and they replaced it just wanted to know what tune have done to it thanks.
There’s a number of tunes, but consistently for the most raw power and performance you’ll want heatsync. It’s expensive. I have bootmod3 which is a bit cheaper but very user friendly and they have great customer service. Other tunes exist also. N63intakes has tuning and the owner is very active in the six series community
Who’s aftermarket warranty did you buy?
@@Jawnwickk cornerstone Xtended Auto
Who did you get your after market warranty with ?
Can you tell me what after market warranty you bought
Did you put that hood on your car to help with the heat from the engine?
It was purely an aesthetic choice
Where can I find the fuse box for the cigarette lighter fuse??
In the U.K. it’s in the boot (trunk in the US )on the right hand side. Hope this helps.
I have 2013 650i xDrive gran coupe, cats are bad on them and I want to downpipe, any ideas on how to pass emissions? Thanks for the help, btw nice car man!
You won’t pass emissions with cat less pipes. I live in a state that doesn’t do emissions so I’m not much help there
Just bought a 2013 650i Convertible, having fun with it but don’t know how much I like it yet…
Do you still like it ? Whats the update
And as for weight, the weight information has always been on the door sills. Why did you buy this car in the first place?
5:46 the problem is the car looks so good from this angle
I'll tell you what I hate I have a 7 series with n63 motor and I don't want to take my car to the dealership because they charge way too much trying to find a good technician outside of a dealership I ran into a few mechanics before I continue I'm a truck driver so I'm always working and these mechanics finessed me out of $8,000 now they could have changed my motor for 10 but chose to finesse me and mislead me and now my car needs a motor and I have to muster up the extra $10,000 on top of the $8,000 I paid for it to be repaired what I absolutely hate is finding a mechanic especially in the city of Chicago that's where I live for these cars it's absolutely horrible this has ruined my experience with BMW's used I understand that if they were new it would be different because I wouldn't be cleaning up behind someone but still it's very frustrating I'll be in 18,000 just to fix this car and you might say why don't you just buy another car it's cheaper to put a motor in it by the way that 10,000 includes cost and labor The point is it's really hard finding a good technician outside of a dealership and even the dealership has bad technicians 🤗
I have 2013 650 i and change my oil every 4000 miles and do away with adding oil
8 quarts in 13months is too much how many miles is that for every quart? I top up 1 quart every 4000miles.
Does anyone recommend a good after market warranty company for these cars ?
Car shield use them on alot of cars from BMW 3 series audi 6 series and now a bmw 6 series coupe not the grandcoupe
Is it reliable for daily use and stage 2 tune with downpipes?
That’s a complex answer but the short version is yes. Stage 2 tuned for over 15,000 miles and daily use. I will be making a CZcams video soon about a bad explosion I had happen a few days ago, waiting for the car to get back from the shop
I have the 650i convertible and its the most fun car to drive.
i was looking at a 650i now not so much lmao
It's also not new that car maintenance will cost a lot of money. Since you bought a used car, why didn't you get an extended warranty?
I did. The point was that these vehicles have a wayyy higher than you’d even expect running cost even for wear + tear items
I dont get why it is heavier than the previous model, same engine, 530 lbs more in f12
I want one of these though 😢
Get one man. They’re a blast to own. Just get at minimum an N63tu
Haha 😄 mines is a convertible low miles and was super reliable nothing wrong
same in the uk ,I cant find anyone who know anything about my f12 , will never buy the f12 again ,
Mine burned oil, and bmw replaced my motor
Sorry man but you are grumbling about what is wrong with the f13 but yet you still keep it, can’t be that bad to own then maybe.
Hold up! That sun roof didn't slide open!?? OOHH NOOOOOO!
Rnr Motorsports has videos on this car
If you can find someone who worked for a BMW dealership service department????
1 st they probably opened their own shop because they know first hand how dealerships overprice the service.
2 nd they know how and probably have a great relationship with companies that manufacturer parts for these cars...
3 rd they are always going to undercut the dealership on service because it makes them money...
Last but most important just like any none corporate business if you bring them business or constantly purchase the same iconic brand such as mine and my brother's favorite BMW or Porsche they will discount parts or services and put videos of their work on CZcams, that's how most CZcamsrs can afford to drive and magically add a 4 stage map plus all the cosmetics and upgrade engine carbon fiber, titanium parts for their amazing works of art completed in a year or less when they don't tell you for us non sponsored everyday citizens, 5-10 years and then we are proud of our investment!
We don't drop sell it and create 5 others in 2 years, I am not hating because they inspire but I am honest and real!!!
If you need receipts just look at classic cars and it's culture.....
Oil consumption is a thing for N63s**** i barely put oil in my 535i between oil changes.
Huh almost like a 535 isn’t an N63
@MedDev404 That's why I put the stars behind N63 chief lol. You said oil consumption is a BMW issue, I said no, it's THAT engine
N55 is known to go through oil as well, you probably don't drive it enough, I do 15k miles a year and top up 1 quart every 4000miles approx in my 640i
@tejsingh1387 Drove mine around 100 miles a day big dawg. Again... BARELY put oil in it between changes, even when my gaskets started to seep
@@yomansam4689 you got lucky dude these straight 6s are known for it since back in the day. :)
💯
I agree 100 percent.. I have 15 650i Gran Coupe, and it's near impressive finding modifications. Yes they are out there, but it's slim to none. I ended up installing my front mounted intakes as well , which look like we have the same brand.... long story short, it was a 3 day process for me. As I fished, I closed my hood, and now cannot get my hood open. smh... There's videos on how to do it for the 2,3,4,5,7... but not 6...lol... it's so sad it just makes you laugh... Needless to say my good has been closed for a week now and I can't get it open... passenger side opens, driver side locked shut.... can't pull at him from front grill and took tire off and dust panel in wheel well and still couldn't reach it like you can I've EVER OTHER BIMMER!!! Smh.... I'm lost now... But I still love this damn girl.... one of the sexiest cats I own.
8 quarts in 13 months is nothing 😂
Glad I saw this don’t really want one no more now lol
Ok, What badge did you put on the back? it looks stupid.
Actually it looks really cool. It’s N7.
@@MedDev404 The bottom of the M6 badge should be level with the bottom of your rear tail light. otherwise it looks like it came from autozone
if it's not an M6, don't try to church it up. Be proud of the car it is,,, putting badges on it that arn't factory cheapens it up
@@Lord-Snowflake only in your (extraordinary stupid) opinion.
Unless you’re paying for it you can go fuck yourself, it’s not some fake m badge, it looks cool and gets people’s attentions, unfortunately including small minded dingbats like you with too much time on their hands. Guess you just have “more to prove” huh.
You put it out there
Why buy it then
Watch my video about top 5 best things and then my tail of the dragon run.
How many $100,000.00 cars have a long list of aftermarket parts and bunch of DIY videos?
Depends on how new they are. I bought mine for less than $36k when it was 6 years old.
The sun roof dont open?
Nope, just pops up at the back.
@@MedDev404 I'm looking at a 640i and a 650i I'm debating between both leaning towards the 640i because maintenance but the 650 is just so nice.
@@Luis92r the N55 in the 640i is more reliable but even with a tune it will be quite slow. The 650i, if regularly maintained - is reasonably reliable and has a much higher tuning potential
@@MedDev404 what issues have the 650 given you there's a nice blue m sport in my area.
Literally no diy’s, not many can afford them
I work 2 jobs and do overtime on top of having no kids so I can afford a slick car. Theres pros and cons to owning any vehicle as an enthusiast. You just have to decide if the joy its going to bring you is worth the headaches along the way
@@MedDev404 I’m not referring to you personally, I’m just saying since less people can afford this engine, less content. The only content I see on the regular is sound clips 🙄, I really wish there was more after market support, mainly to make them much more reliable
@@Kyronsk8 I didn’t think you were just kinda wanted to put some context on it.
It’s an expensive SOB one because European car shops even at the low end are going to be a bit more expensive, and especially for quality work. That and these things are *so* complicated. It’s ridiculous how much crap had to move for simple stuff.
Loudest Caucasian neighborhood in America! Lol
😅😅😅😂😂 go to California you'll be OK
why buy a 97k car when new and moan abut the maintenance cost ?? If you cant afford to run it buy something you can. You can add a 6th annoying point : this video....!!!
Yes, no one ever buys what was once a very expensive car and complains about anything. I must be the first. Man I wish I had your time on my hands, dork.
Bro, go trade it for a 550i...
You so strange 🙄
You have too much time on your hands
You are hard gay
Yup, ya got me.
Dont do more reviews
I give your comment a 1/10 for effort , 0/10 for
Originality, and 0/10 for thoughtfulness.
One more tip, change the hood of your car. Also not great, bit of a poser look.@@MedDev404
@@minityper one more tip, feel free to stfu unless you’re spending the money on my car. You got way to much time on your hands punk