Pascal and Lazlo Might Have Been Deleted in Development (Theory) || Sims 2 Corruption Chronicles
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Hi! I'm Tanic Sims 2 but you can call me Tanny and I decided to compile all the evidence I could find pointing to Pascal and Lazlo Curious being deleted and recreated at least once in development. Because I've lost control of my life.
Major thanks to the Katrina Caliente Hate Club Discord server, in particular Ale, who originally shared their theory, and Val, who indirectly started the discussion because Loki had a Moment in her game. Major thanks also to Vadim Sims, who found the final piece of this puzzle and ultimately prompted me to make this video. ALL CREDIT GOES TO THEM! Go send them all lots of love ♥
Ale's summary of the discussion: glabeglarns.tumblr.com/post/6...
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SOURCES AND RECOMMENDED READING!
↳Lone Gunmen - Ronos: www.imdb.com/title/tt0243069/
↳Curious Bros: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Curious_...
↳Zero-based Indexing: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-ba...
↳Pascal: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Pascal_C...
↳Vidcund: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Vidcund_...
↳Lazlo: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Lazlo_Cu...
↳Bianca Monty: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Bianca_M...
↳Kent Capp: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Kent_Capp
↳Strangetown DNA - baratron: www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf...
↳Beta DNA - Charamei (p.11)
↳Bella Goth: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Bella_Go...)
↳RTM Game Version - Jaceu: / why_is_strangetown_so_...
↳Pascal and Lazlo Face Templates: csydes.fandom.com/wiki/Notabl...
↳Living Sims Created First: sims.fandom.com/wiki/Olivia_M...
↳Andrew Gonzaga/Lazlo Curious Catalog Description - Vadim Sims: thesims.cc/threads/istorija-r...
Genetically Correct Pleasantview - TheDudeWithTheDragonTattoos: modthesims.info/d/656255/gene...
JustWierzba: www.mediafire.com/file/ci0vzb...
Strangetown - TheDudeWithTheDragonTattoos: modthesims.info/d/657575/gene...
JustWierzba: www.mediafire.com/file/isj3av...
Veronaville - LordCrumps: modthesims.info/d/652632/gene...
JustWierzba: www.mediafire.com/file/gwa3zc...
SimPE: modthesims.info/d/30839/simpe...
MUSIC & SOUNDS
↳Kristen Dez - Come On Come On (Intro & Outro)
↳Sims 2 DS Strange Day
↳Sims 2 DS Aliens
↳John Cobbett - Turgid Apocalypse
↳Sims 2 DS Chill Factory
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↳Blog: tanicsims2.blogspot.com/
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00:00 Intro
00:25 Shoutouts
00:52 Lone Curious Brothers
02:18 Exhibit A: User_00/01/02
05:20 Exhibit B: The Curious Cases of Mary and Bella
08:08 Close Family Resemblance... or Result of Multiple Recreations?
09:19 Exhibit C: Final Piece of the Puzzle
10:40 Conclusion
11:54 Credits
12:31 Outro - Hry
I literally started watching The X-Files because of this video lmaooooo
👉🏻👈🏻 I hope you like this sort of shorter video exploring technical or corruption-related theories! It was fun to make and I have some more ideas for future explorations if people are like, ‘Oh, I guess this video is... fine. Ish.’ Soz that it’s not the Downtown video though. I got distracted innit
Sending you all warmth and happiness! 🥰
Hi,I just got a new gaming laptop. It's a MSI Delta 15 laptop.For some reason,the sims 3 doesn't detect my Graphics card. Is it true that the Sims 3 could destroy newer laptops or computers? I'm thinking about re downloading the sims 2 on my gaming laptop. My MSI laptop loads the sims faster than my old basic laptop.
Great video! Sims 2 corruption is one of my special interests and I just want to add my two cents :) So I've been conducting some experiments with deleting Sims (for science, of course). I discovered that when you delete a sim in a sim bin, not much happens really, other than the Sim is hidden from the game and the character file becomes unlinked - which may or may not potentially cause issues in the long run, but new Sims will not acquire that Sim's data. However, it's a different story when you actually delete a Sim's character file (which is what Maxis did to all Sims that they've deleted). Two different IDs suddenly become available: instance number and the character file name. The game no longer recognizes them as 'taken', so newly created Sims can and will eventually get those numbers assigned. The thing is, it's very very unlikely that one Sim will recieve both numbers from the missing Sim, as they seem to be assigned independently.
In the case of Filename, a game will always assign that name to the first Sim that has been generated after deletion. So, if you delete a character file User000, and then you launch the game, the first Sim generated during that play session (usually a townie, an NPC or a stray pet) will recieve that FIlename. With an instance number, it seems to be a bit more random. The Sims created together in CAS will get the instance numbers close to each other, but any Sim generated in game can either jump at the end of the list, or inherit a number from that poor deleted Sim. It's hard to say what's actually happening without access to The Sims 2 source code, but it seems to be a lottery. From the two IDs, inheriting the instance number is much more dangerous, as the game actually refers to the Sim's instance number when storing family ties, memories, wants and fears, and so on. This is what's causing stuff like toddlers with adult wants, weird Sim Relations or random memories that clearly belong to another Sim.
Where am I getting with this? My theory is that Pascal and Lazlo have been deleted and recreated just once. The two headmasters (Matthew Gibson and Andrew Gonzaga) happened to be generated right after Pascal and Lazlo have been deleted, so they recieved User00000 and User00002 Filenames respectively. Later on, Mary Melons and Bella Goth happened to inherit Pascal's and Lazlo's instance numbers, hence why they think they're siblings with Vidcund, but it's not reciprocated. Thank you for reading my Sims 2 corruption essay :D
i wish i could heart this a million times and have two pinned comments at once 😭 wow. i think you’ve nailed it. a sim’s instance number (which i’ve also seen referred to as nids. i have just been having a hard time finding a definitive answer to whether nid is the filename, so user_xx, or sdsc instances) does seem to take priority in identifying a sim out of all the methods of sim identification, since like you say it’s how sims are referenced in pretty much all neighbourhood records. i’ve had to do a lot of research for the downtown video to learn exactly how instance numbers work, and this is pretty spot-on.
while working on that part of the downtown video, i did try to investigate to see if instance numbers worked like nids/filenames in that they can be taken again if a sim is deleted, but i was unable to find anything concrete there. most of the research was spent on the subhood memory bugs though, where i did manage to find out exactly how that works and why. but while i could see that sims from subhood templates will get new instance numbers when added to a primary hood (thus messing up their memories and potentially tokens, as is the case for downtown), i was still left wondering if instance numbers could be reused if the original owner is deleted. in fact, i think i even resigned to the thought that maybe they do work differently, and that once they’re gone, they’re gone, and won’t be up for grabs for new sims if the original owner is deleted. i pretty much only came to that conclusion because of how subhood sims won’t ‘fill in the gaps’ like sims do with user_xx files. never really experimented with it myself, but now i definitely want to take a look! this is certainly plausible, and makes a lot of sense.
i had a feeling the order of instance numbers would be significant, but again i was still unsure about instance numbers’... reusability, shall we say lol. it definitely seems to be a case of two things, with the headmasters taking the user_xx files, and mary and bella grabbing the instance numbers.
i’m so in awe about this comment, truly. even if part of me is kicking myself for not trying harder to come to a conclusion with instance numbers being reused hahaha. thank you SO much for your ‘corruption essay’, as you call it 🤣 i know this just seems... so unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but the puzzle-solving has been so fun - and i think you’re right. again, thank you sososo much for sharing!!
that's so interesting!! and i think that what you're saying is more plausible than them being deleted twice 😮
@@tanicsims2 Thank you for your kind words :) I wrote a follow up comment, it doesn't appear for some reason; probably because I included some links to Pescado's forum to back up my theory and I think it got automatically removed. You are absolutely right about the NIDs being seemingly non-reusable - in normal circumstances, the game behaves exactly as you described (i.e. keeps assigning new NIDs endlessly). However, I think I found a missing piece of a puzzle. You CAN make the game to fill in the gaps, if you reset the neighborhood's Sim Creation Index in SimPe! I just did that to my Strangetown, where I deleted Pollination Tech Smith. Sure enough, after generating like 100 toddlers, one of them finally snapped up old NID of Pollination Tech. That toddler not only has a lifetime wish now (Graduate 3 Children from College - exactly the same as Pollination Tech had!), but has all his family ties as well. So, the results are exaclty as expected :) I do have screenshots; I tried to include the imgur link to show you, but youtube deletes my comment every single time I try to include this link :(
@@aprilblacksims So does that mean if Mary Melon is resurrected and Strangetown Bella is added to a household, that that could possibly breed corruption in the long run? Will the game then start try to add pieces from the older data to what could be happening in a new game (i.e. mary or Bella marrying Vidcund/Jenny, having children with them, meeting Jill/Johnny, etc.)?
I suppose being deleted then recreated would explain why Pascal looks so different in the photo albums for the Curious and Beaker families (he had light as a child and teen, but has tan skin as an adult).
so i did sorta... glimpse? i guess? at some of the storytelling images, in the hopes that i’d be able to see if they looked different to their ‘final’ versions at all, but i found it too hard to tell so i ended up not really taking them into account. i wish i had studied them closer though, especially because pascal (i mean... i’m assuming it’s pascal?) did have a different hairstyle as a teenager. but i don’t know if that’s a case of ‘this is the original version of pascal, so he has a different hairstyle’ or if it’s just ‘he has a different hairstyle cus he’s a teen lol it’s not that deep’. i’m gonna have to go back and take closer looks because you just might be onto something there. thank you for sharing!!
@@tanicsims2 Pascal's hairstyle, as well as Vidcund's glasses, aren't available for teens. Vidcund wears Lazlo's glasses as a teen.
@@ivratsdargy955 interesting, however many premade sims wear unavailable clothing and accessoires, so maybe they have been removed during development
When you said Pascal could have been the default telescope shover I thought of how different CMK lets play could have been
I don't know if I would want to live in such a world.
-vidcund is more bulliable than pascal-
Literally came here to comment this 😂 poor Vidcund
Metalhead Vidcund is my new favorite thing
i’ve adopted it as canon cus i love the concept of metalheadcund so much 😌
definitely a headcanon now
@@tanicsims2 Metalheadcund i- OMG HAHAHA
im so honored to have been part of history
This kinda adds to a theory I started to think about that proposes that Vidcund was never meant to be related to Pascal and Lazlo, but instead to Loki Beaker. It would explain why they look similar and have more Norse sounding names.
I don't know if Loki and Vidcund were meant to be related, but it would make sense. I always thought that the Curious brothers weren't originally meant to be siblings, and Curious was just supposed to be the household name like the Singles. It would also kind of explain why they don't seem to be related in the PSP game, they just seem to be coworkers.
i’m so obsessed with this theory omg. imagine the drama if vidcund and loki were brothers... oof
i had the psp game in mind and considered throwing it in there as an alternate theory (i.e. maybe they don’t look alike cus they weren’t originally intended to be related, since like you say they’re not related in the psp game) as well as adding another link to the x-files. only on season 2 at the moment so i don’t think i’ve been introduced to them yet but i’d heard about dudes in black probably being a reference to the men in black. eventually i ended up deciding to kinda... disregard? the psp canon and focus solely on the pc game since it came first, but honestly i’d say there’s a high chance you’re right and they were intended to be the curious _household_ rather than _brothers_
@@plastichouseplant I feel like the family ties in Strangetown were probably slapped together towards the end of development, or just not thought through well enough. Perhaps they thought it would be too odd for a group of roommates to just settle in Strangetown without any familial contacts. I'd really love to hear what the development process for the TS2 family stories was like.
well it's not really a bit of a stretch, specially now that you've mentioned their names being really nordic like.
And i just research this days ago but i think Vidcund's name is reference to the name "Vidkunn" which is the origin is from Norwegian of some sort.
The people we know as Pascal and Lazlo are aliens posing as them, after they kidnapped the real ones.
Alieminati confirmed!
obsessed with learning about sims 2 mysteries
Thank you for eng subtitles. As a russian its really hard for me to fully understand native speaker. I really appreciated.
пожалуйста! i know how important subtitles are so i make sure my videos have them! one day, i really wish my videos could also have russian subtitles 🥺 but for now, i am glad having english subs is helpful!! спасибо!
@@tanicsims2 you gave me an idea! One major russian TS2 community suprisingly big and active now. Corruption also known there. I can make subtitles and share your videos. Just give me a moment.
@@tanicsims2 oh... I found that google removed the add subtitle function. I actually used it 4 years ago and i thought it is still aviable :(
@@tanicsims2 oh dang now i kinda want to make russian subs when i'll have the time :D
@@bitterglitter6094 omg let's collab
i wonder what the original pascal and lazlo would’ve looked like. maybe they would’ve looked more like the original lone gunmen, as vidcund is the only one who strongly resembles a lone gunman. i love the versions of pascal and lazlo we ended up with, but it would still be interesting to see their original forms
agreed! i reallyyyyy had to stretch to compare melvin to pascal and john to lazlo tbh. idk, maybe the more important thing *if this theory is correct* was that they were a trio of ‘conspiracy geeks’ and so appearance kind of took a backseat. or, as you say, all of them once looked closer to their counterparts, then when they were remade it was less of a priority - maybe because at that point the curious bros were more fleshed out than just being inspired by the lone gunmen. wish we knew for sure if they were based on them at all, and i also would love to know how they originally looked if they looked different at all!!
(p.s. love your username!)
You said "Vidcund" & "telescope" & my brain went "CallMeKevin" 😂
Poor Vidcund...he had it rough. Even death did not set him free.
Vidcund and the refusal to die 😂😂😂😂
"Vidcund... oh, I hate you!" 🤣🤣
The thumbnail with Pascal and Lazlo in the trashcan just made my day. And I'm definitely interested in more videos like this!
LMAO as i was making the thumbnail i was shaking from laughing so much. that sort of silent laughter. i thought no one else would find it as funny as i do, so this is both reassuring and surprising 😭 -graphic design is my passion-
i’m so glad to hear you’d be interested in more videos like this, because it was a lot of fun to make and i have more ideas so looks like i have no choice but to make more, huh 👀 thank you!
this was great! my favorite quote was "is this not the most Vidcundian man you have ever seen in your life!" btw, loki crab bot would like to say "STOP WITH THE CUND"
lol i was hoping the kchc would appreciate casual usage of the word vidcundian 🤣 he just radiates pure vidcund energy and i like that a lot
Oh yes, that quote is the best! And honestly, that guy is the most Vidcundian man I have ever seen in my life.
Vidcundian is my favorite word.
@@glanni Same
Vidcundian omg my new fave word
I read somewhere once that the sims 2 was initially developed on the same engine as the original sims game and later ported to a new engine later in development. I wouldn't be surprised if that broke more than a few things and is likely the explanation for some sims being deleted and recreated as well as the reason for double sims like Darlene and Skip. Being created in an earlier version of the game and ported over could have lead to some sims being so broken they had to be remade. To me this would definitely explain why the unused Darlene and Skip are actually the real bio parents. Its a theory that makes a lot of things start to make sense as it could also explain why sims like Hero, Olivia, and Claudio may have originally been planned to be playable, but it was just easier to make them deceased rather than recreate them.
It's kind of funny that Pascal collects conspiracy theories and is sort of part of one. This is really interesting. I would have guessed their late creation was probably because they were just planning for Vidcund to be an ex of Circe to create some drama but then decided to expand the family more, but that doesn't explain the references to them like the headmaster with Lazlo's bio, or the other connections.
Kind of insulting to them that they might have been deleted twice haha but it could have been an accident somehow during the development process. I can't really think why they did it. I know they replaced certain other Sims so the hidden versions are still floating around (like Nervous Subject,) but that didn't happen (afaik,) with these two. They seem pretty well integrated into the story too so they don't seem like an afterthought especially Pascal with his alien pregnancy. So I can't imagine them not being there and Lazlo is probably my favourite Curious brother (though it's hard to pick one and Pascal would probably be second.) I like to hook Lazlo up with Erin Beaker/Singles sometimes because they both have that 'psychic' connection in their bios lol.
HAHAHA you’re so right! maybe maxis was foreshadowing with his bio 🤣
someone commented their theory that they were only deleted once, but their data were distributed two ways; to the headmasters, who took the user file names, and mary and bella, who got their instance numbers. this theory could explain why andrew gonzaga has scraps of lazlo’s data in his catalog description, which is within a sim’s character/user file, while mary and bella have SRELs with the curious family, because SRELs are linked to a sim’s instance number. it seems that, ordinarily, the game’s pretty good at not reusing a deleted sim’s instance number, but the commenter said that resetting the sim creation index can cause instances to be reassigned to new sims’ sim descriptions. so i don’t think it’s entirely out of the realm of possibility that they were only deleted and recreated once, but at least four sims decided to snag their data lol. if it does turn out they were deleted more than once though... oof. rip to the original pascal and lazlo
omg someone on reddit enlightened me about erin and lazlo as a couple and it made SO MUCH SENSE... i’ve been meaning to restart strangetown for like a year now and that’s a couple i want to -force- encourage. maybe lazlo calls a phone psychic and erin picks up and that’s how they meet 🥺
Love this! Just yesterday I noticed that there was actually a third Darleen Dreamer in Pleasantview and she was the one that Darren would have considered his spouse. Also, If I remember correctly, in Veronaville there were possibly 2 other Romeo's and another Mercutio that were deleted.
You're right about the big boss scenario being repurposed into headmaster. The big boss script is still in the game and is similar in structure to the final headmaster script but it is very basic. It can be played to some degree but unfortunately it no longer works like it was intended to. Chris Hatch made it playable for his angels and nurses ep. One interesting aspect of big boss was that they would try to hit on their employee's spouse. Saucy.
This video just got randomly recommended to me and it was worth. Strangetown truly is strange even the game files.
Also "Katrina Caliente Hate Club" lol
lol the algorithm decided you absolutely must find out if pascal and lazlo were deleted and recreated in development 🤣 glad you clicked!
hahaha it’s a very funny server. i love it there. justice for nighat caliente!
This is so fascinating! So much has changed during development of the sims. I am positive they were deleted and came back, the evidence is more than enough, however what I find the most curious (hehe) is why. What is the possible advantage of deleting a sim? Pretty sure developers could have changed their appearance manually if it was about that... There must be more to this story.
With that said, I certainly would love to hear more!
omg you have NO idea how frustrated i got at one point while making this video, because there was a nagging question i just couldn’t answer - WHY? why were they deleted (allegedly, maybe, possibly)?? i’m still desperately seeking that answer, tbh. but with this sort of thing, i’m insatiable and pretty much never satisfied until i know the ins and outs of everything. that especially includes the *why*. so many times i would ask myself, ‘okay, so they might’ve been deleted. there’s evidence for that. BUT WHY? why were they deleted?’ really all we can do is speculate some more lol. like you say, why would any sim need to be deleted in development? -keeps me up at night-
thank you so much!! ☺️
I remember watching this awhile ago, but I recently have been diving in strangetown more and I just had to revisit this lol. After checking out SimPE, I firmly believe what you're saying is true. It does seem pretty clear to me at least that Mary Melons = Pascal Curious and Bella Goth = Lazlo Curious in terms of relationship stuff. Both think they're siblings of Vidcund, both think they're the aunt of Jenny's kids, then Mary being enemies (-30) with Loki Beaker, just like Pascal is with Loki. I mean it all makes sense. Well, that part does. There's more odd relationship flagging that I can't explain at all... Ajay Loner's relatives all flagged as Buzz Grunt's children? Kitty Curious flagged as Loki and Circe Beaker's child? Though I can only guess Kitty Curious may have took over a deleted ID of Nervous Subject or something. Also, when you look at the storytelling images, a lot of characters don't look the same. I can only wonder if those were simple appearance changes, or deleted versions of them? What on earth did the devs do? Haha
What a cool video! Hope there will be more stuff like this in the future. Now my pet theory is that Pascal and Lazlo were deleted because they looked too similar to their Lone Gunmen counterparts and Maxis didn't want a lawsuit. lol
hahaha can you imagine! -officially adopted this as a new theory lol-
also, thank you! i really enjoyed making this one and there are a few other technical/corruption-related mysteries i’ve got my eye on, so maybe more like this shall come 👀
I love the existence of Strangetown Bella Goth - it's like Maxis just did a big bait to corrupt 2 neighborhoods at once (I assume accidentally). Plus there's that she's so set on corrupting your game (either through connections and setting you up with objects NPCs or just being stubborn and randomly getting some relations with them). And now I learn she's also partially a Curious brother. What else is to her that I don't know?
I swear, they did one of the best mysteries of Sims series by using her and also one of the most dangerous Sim to interact with that is easily interactable.
Oh yes, a video about my favorite sims family 😍
Edit: I LOST it when you said "Is this not the most Vidcundian man you have ever seen?" 😭😭 He is very Vidcundian indeed.
Edit II: Oh gosh, I love the joke theory that Vidcund is a metal head. I also have had a joke headcanon where Vidcund has an edgy alter ego called Dark Vidcund, where he wears black and acts like a baddy. It all comes together.
I always thought my crush on Vidcund I've been harboring for 15+ years made no sense, but now I can blame it on the even more inexplicable crush I had on Langly back in the 90s.
‘vidcundian’ is hands down the funniest word i have ever seen. ever. i wish i could take credit for it, but alas - i was not the genius who brought that word into the world. still, i knew the world needed to know it and accept it into our collective lexicons. it funny word. x-files man vidcundian.
dark vidcund. i am crying. that is SO funny jfjjfjfjf having an edgy alter ego called dark vidcund -(darkcund)- HE WOULD. very vidcundian behaviour indeed. i declare this as canon now
jfjfjjfjf this entire thread is so funny like omg... a crush on vidcund... for almost two decades....... probably because you also had a crush on the most pre-vidcund vidcundian man ever. i wish i could say ‘i would never’ but i genuinely was hesitant to start watching the x-files when making this vid cus i feared i’d fall in love with langly for some reason. ended up falling in love with scully instead. bi unpredictability ✌🏻
In my game he often wears black. This is definitely the color that suits him. And he himself is a rather depressed and gloomy person.
@@plastichouseplant Omg lmao-
Darn now pascal and lazlo feel like imposters as well.
This video really brings home "dont delete sims!"
I thought maybe they might have been remade in order too have completed/update DNA data for their scripted babies but no, it’s Vidcund who gets pregnant second. Maybe Lazlo was meant to get abducted? But if they bothered to both remake 2 of them and also possibly change who got abducted wouldn’t they go ahead and remake the third if it was so necessary? And still further, lots of sims with incomplete dna are designed to give birth anyways. Maybe it’s as simple as they didn’t like the old designs or planned on remaking everyone to fix them all but didn’t have the time.
That see to explaine why the brother no recognized the Smith family as relatives
I got soo excited seeing you uploaded a new video !!! this was REALLY interesting, especially that part about Lazlos old bio in the headmasters code. Take your time on the downtown video im so hyped for it
Gotta love how this theory was started all because Loki Beaker pissed himself
My theory is that Pascal and Lazlo are biological children of Glarn curious, and that he adopeted Vidcund and Jeanie because he was feeling guilty for have abandoned his 2 alien daughters, so he adopted 2 orphan siblings (Jeanie and Vidcund) and after had 2 more biological chindren (Pascal and Lazlo)
She is Jenny. And I think that only Vidcund is adopted. Jenny has some similarities with her mother, father and brothers. Vidcund is unlike anyone else.
@@antonpetrov1483 i think vidcund and jeanie are siblings because both are blond with caucasian features, unlike their brothers. Her mother was blond, but did not have caucasian features.
@@itamarmedeirosnetto Vidcund is unlike any parent, Jenny is a bit like Kitty in facial features.
@@antonpetrov1483 Kitty has one of the asian face templates, while Jenny has the Second face tamplate.
@@itamarmedeirosnetto Does Kitty have an Asian template? Kitty has a European face. And yes, Jenny could also take her appearance from her grandparents.
Glarn is have Asian template.
amazing video! loving the new mic. this is something that has been on my mind as well, and i'm happy to see people talking about this. it's always confused me how different vidcund looks compared to his brothers, and i'm glad to have an explanation and a little peace of mind. thank you once again for your contributions :) /g
Okay, my big question now is how tf did the sims team keep deleting these sims? 😭
right? i’m so desperate to know exactly WHY they (and countless other poor sims sent to the shredder) might have been deleted!
Bro, I watched like all your videos over the last two days and first off all awesome videos! But also you made me realise I got ptsd from that damn aliens sims 2 music! I was just watching and got like more and more anxious for no reason and then realised it's that damn sims 2 music! I swear I was so scared of them, when I was a child (still am, when I'm replaying tbh)! Great video though!
the sims portraits changing to another photo or disappearing is so funny to me but i do not know why 😭
jdjjdjdjd every time i did that in editing i thought i was the funniest person alive. like it was so hilarious to me, and i was shaking with silent laughter. it was the funniest thing i’d ever seen until i made the thumbnail, then that became the funniest thing in the universe. but i never thought anyone else would find it funny 🤣 so this is surprising! reassuring, but surprising. lol
@@tanicsims2 IT’S SO FUNNY especially the ones turning into trash
I wonder how it works after a sim dies? In my pleasant view John burb and Mortimer goth have died and Nina Caliente is the telescope slapped now.
yep, it gets passed down to the next sim! it’s based on instance number but typically the first designated shover in a premade hood will be the first playable sim created. veronaville is weird because technically bottom should be the shover, but she’s too young and so it goes to the next sim in line, consort, until bottom’s old enough/consort dies. i don’t really understand the criteria past ‘it’s about instance numbers’ but that’s mostly just because i don’t know what mortimer, vidcund, and consort’s instance numbers are off the top of my head. guessing it’s to do with lowest instance numbers and it works its way up. it’s the same pattern if you have a shover look through the telescope; they can’t come and shove themselves, so the shover is the one who’s next in line. my pleasantview had the same order as yours; mortimer, john, nina, and iirc right now it’s alexander. no idea who it’s going to be next, never made it this far in pleasantview before 😭
tl;dr: when the shoving sim dies, the honour is passed to the next sim in line based on instance numbers
This video was great (as usual) and I'd definitely be interested in more short videos like this! I love hearing about sims theories and I think a lot of others do too, so you'd definitely have an audience.
This is a very interesting video! I always love to hear about Sims 2 corruption and development. I've watched your how corrupt is.. anyways many times and they always bring me enjoyment. Keep up the good work!👍
thank you so much for all your kind words! it means the world to me, knowing i could bring enjoyment to people with these videos - especially since this community has been such a huge part of my life for years! so glad you enjoyed 🥺
0:53 MEMORIEEEES, the alien music from Sims 2 DS!
This has lived up to the hype 🥺💗 luv it so much 💗💗💗
love this! these videos are sooo entertaining and always keep my interest in sims 2 at 200%
Thank you for making these videos
Fun fact Oliver Spencer house was to be a gravellar in aplomo image the maid gosth has mother haor style
Another fantastic video. Love your content so much
thank you so much 🥺❤️
You know what, I thought about it some more, and looking at how the dudes dress... I think Vidcund and Lazlo have had some of the (visual) characteristics of Langly and John mixed up. Like, yes, Langly looks more like Vidcund, but the way they dress is switched. Vidcund is wearing a suit, albeit a much different style. And Lazlo is wearing a funky shirt, which isn't a metal shirt but it is an iconic shirt with a large print that could easily be a band logo.
So while I still find Metalcund very cool as a concept, I think we can't ignore the fact that the one with the "band shirt" might actually be Lazlo (besides the fact that he seems to be more interested in recreational hobbies like music).
Just wanted to share my thoughts because this video has been living in my mind rent free.
I will say that I have no idea what the Lone Gunmen's personalities are though, or how they compare to the Curious Brothers'.
i love your channel and your intro and everything you make. thank you.
I haven't checked in on your channel in a few months and wow congrats on 2.5k subscribers!
aaaa yay hi! welcome back!! thank you so much ☺️ i’m still trying to process it hehe
i agree! i was starting to wonder if it could’ve been a possibility when i realised pascal and lazlo were the last created sims in strangetown while their brother was the first, but it wasn’t until ale shared their theory when all the small things (nananananananana) fell into place. then finding vadim sims’ inspection of andrew gonzaga’s catalog description... it’s certainly plausible. does it matter? does it change anything? probably not, lol. strangetown doesn’t need much help in the corruption and bugginess department. but theories like this really captivate me and it’s super cool how other people are interested too!!
I love the deep dives, but if it's easier on you to do the shorter videos that's great too! I love your content and accent!
the deep dives will always be my first love so they’re absolutely here to stay! just wish i could speed up production on them if only so i can make even more tbh. this video was kind of like ‘i am not going to be able to stop thinking about it if i don’t drop everything and make it right now’ so i ended up spending a week on it jfjfjjf ideally i’d like to make these sorts of videos (i have tons of ideas!!) while also making a larger deep dive but i just suck at multitasking 😓 kind of like i have to focus on one thing at a time or i won’t be able to do anything at all. it would be cool if i could alternate between deep dives and shorter vids like this in the future though. they’re both so fun to investigate and edit!! thank you so much 🥺❤️
The most interesting part of this vid - to see site, were you spend like... 12 years or more..? And remember this users. :D Shookingly unbelivable, as the invistigation btw.
Buried in this video is the solution to the Bella Goth mystery as well.
Loved this video!!!
aww i’m so glad! thank you 🥺❤️
this is very interesting ty for sharing
A few days late, but I clicked so fast when I saw you uploaded!
really 🥺 thank you so much! wow! this means a lot, and i really hope you enjoyed and it was worth the click hehe
This is so interesting
This was very interesting, I never thought of that and I really liked it 👀
thank you!! also i finally added your hoods to the description 🤗 sorry i took so long!
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It's alright
You didn't have to but I really appreciate it, thank you
Great video! Your research is excellent. What made you focus more on Pascal & Lazlo than Kent & Bianca? Is it lesser known? Do people just find Strangetown more interesting? Since I’m playing Veronaville, it always peaks my interest. In fact, just yesterday I was searching for renovations of the Summerdream house, and came across multiple people saying how they always move them out of that ‘glitch-fest’ of a lot. I too have noticed some bugs happening there, like the carpool stops coming and I have to use the bat box to force errors off world…but I couldn’t find any more information on it, what makes it buggy? Would you ever consider making a video on buggy/unclean lots?
aww thank you for your kindness, as always ❤️ honestly the only reason was because i briefly covered the kent and bianca situation in how corrupt is veronaville anyway, otherwise i’m sure they would have their own shorter video just like this too! the information about kent and bianca is known enough that it’s all mentioned on their pages on the sims fandom wiki (where i found out about their histories). but this information/theory wasn’t on pascal, lazlo, or even the headmasters’ pages, so purely based on that i’d say it is lesser known. had i known about it sooner, it probably would’ve been in one of the strangetown corruption vids. i only realised pascal and lazlo were the last created sims in strangetown when making the veronaville video, and the only thing i really took from it was, ‘oh, that must be why their dna is fine.’ didn’t connect it to mary and bella or the headmasters yet, though i did find it odd that they were last when vidcund was the first. then ale shared their theory and everything just. fell into place. and when i found vadim sims’ post on the forum, it was just like... woah. so i wanted to talk about it and compile everyone’s evidence ☺️
hmm... i don’t really know much about buggy lots, other than issues to do with occupied/previously occupied houses and sim references. i’ve heard some players say monty ranch causes crashes when it’s loading sometimes, but i can’t say for sure why that is. the only thing i can really think of that *might* be a problem - especially in the case of the summerdream house - is that bigger lots with a ton of objects can cause lag and crashes for some players, but i don’t think that would necessarily contribute to any carpool/portal issues. purely conjecture (and based on my very not expert opinion), but i’d imagine another thing is controllers, since they’re often lot-specific and can get buggy. so problems could be due to buggy controllers (maybe even tokens and markers) on lots rather than the lots themselves. i’ll have to investigate it more though, because i am not totally sure myself and i don’t want to say, ‘oh it could be this or that’ when i’m probably completely wrong lol.
i’ve thought about exploring things like whether downloading a playtested lot is safe, because it seems to be a divisive topic. no concrete answers there. no idea when i’d get around to that exactly, but i’ll bump this idea and the topic of buggy lots in general on my list!! (i’m so sorry for replying so late by the way!)
Interesting video! This will fill the wait for Downtown. How far along are you with the Downtown corruption video?
as of right now, 54 minutes of the video is ready... just a few more sections to edit, so it may be coming soon 👀
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There is just so much lore in The Sims 2. The Sims 3 and The Sims 4 don’t have nearly enough background.
I love the Sims 2 DS music lol!
how do i see the catalog description for Andrew Gonzaga?
I love your videos.
I would probably die if pascal and lazlo didn't exist lol
i wish i could play it again is so good
i find it personally better than 4
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your videos rule ❤
thank you 🥺❤️
Are u doing any corruption
Can u bring back hero Monty
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