The BEST Studio Monitor We've EVER Used | Part 2: DRIVERS
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- čas přidán 30. 09. 2022
- ⚠PLEASE NOTE: This video was filmed in October 2022 when Volt was moving premises, their lead time is usually 4-6 weeks⚠
In part 2 of our monitor mini series we look at the driver choices we made - the BlieSMa T25S-6 tweeter, M74S-6 mid driver, Dayton Audio RS225-4 and RS315-HO bass drivers, and how we got there. We also discuss how the Trinnov MC-Pro paid an unusual but valuable role! Huge thank you's go to Paul Mortimer of Emerging UK, Doug Hunt and Dan Taylor of Doug Hunt Sound & Light, Jes Kerr, Oliver Horn, the expert team at Sound Imports, Stanislav Malikov from BlieSMa, Nigel Rolph and FlopCat (of course). In part three we'll look at cabinet design and how it all went together, so stay tuned!
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⚠PLEASE NOTE: This video was filmed in October 2022 when Volt was moving premises, their lead time is usually 4-6 weeks⚠
Thank you very much for the great compliments! We are glad to supply all European DIY enthousiasts with the best audio brands!
We definitely want to see the video with Stanislav! Indulge us nerds please 😄
Guys, I’m a hi fi nerd not a studio bod but I’m not averse to a bit of DIY and I’m finding these vids about your new speakers very interesting. PLEASE post the interview with the Blies-ma guy!
Definitely want to see the interview with Stanislav and part III
Cant wait to buy them for myself😍 was really hoping them to be called flopcat speakers though. Big fan of you guys. Ive learned so much from y'all
Boys Boys Where is the next part. Where is the Bliesma interview
with Stanislav. We are waiting, waiting, waiting.If you dont get a
move on we will ask Floppy to make it happen !
I’ve worked in “Hi-Fi” since I was 18. I’ve been on a mission to find a speaker that sounds like an ATC. But not at ATC prices. For my home I wanted to A/B them with my Sonus Faber that I absolutely love. But there is a massive gulf between listening for enjoyment critically and that of listening critically to find errors in a recording to resolve. Put simply- people actually like distortion for enjoyment. I’ve also gone into DIY and am a Parts Express fanboy for their cost to value. I can’t wait for the next vid. As this is way more satisfying that going on a forum and watching children (mentally) call each other names.
Thanks! We used our ATC SCM200 as a benchmark for decided whether ours are a good competitor, and I think we can honestly say we're favouring the extra detail of the BlieSMa mids. They'll be a fraction of the price for more detail!
"If you put all the masters in a room together they'd agree on everything
- if you put the students together, they'd agree on nothing" - Bruce lee
WANT! (the video with Stanislav and so much more about the filter design!)
I vote for a mini series "Mark reads foreign sounding company names. Focal and BlieSMa were just the start of the journey. Listen to Mark explaining Analtech, Morning Wood Company, Bunghole Liquors and more"
(Yes, these are real).
Great presentation, I'm feeling almost unworthy to leave a comment and hope this series will extend Dallas in its number of episodes. Kudos to both of you!
Thanks Peter :)
Honestly it was hilarious filming the pronunciation part!
@@PresentDayProduction As it was watching it :D
This mini series is just beyond brilliant for a speaker nerd like me! It’s been a while since I’ve been this excited for the next episode of ~anything~ to drop! Still, I’m very much crossing my fingers that they’ll be within budget for me…
Ok, you officially have my attention :)
I have been working on computer aided crossover design since the mid 80's and anytime someone can bring in serious measuring equipment and not be able to locate the crossover points by amplitude or phase response definitely has my curiosity piqued !
I was a studio musician/engineer/producer in the 70's/80's -- Studer's/Neve's/JBL 4350's/UREI 813's, like that.
I have heard ATC's and they are definitely a cut above, no doubt.
I am also a silk dome tweeter guy, and generally a closed box (2nd order) low end guy, even though you tend to get worse group delay around the crossover point because of the slower 2nd order phase rotation, the old bass player in me loves that tight sealed box bass -- I know, I know next episode, can't wait !!
Am also aware you can over damp a 4th order ported box to get rid of some of that dreaded resonant corner sound, where it takes the big dive :)
Was aware of the Guzauski-Swists, though I have never heard them.
I am retired now and have been running KH310's and a KH810 for the last 9 years, they are fairly neutral, but really lack dispersion, and just aren't as detailed as I'd like.
I can't afford ATC's for my basement studio, but I do have access to an extremely accomplished enclosure fabricator.
I am an electronics guy from way back and could easily handle that end.
Also have been a computer programmer for close to 40 years, software is my thing these days.
Assuming I can procure the Hypex plate amps and the the drivers, are you planning to offer the box and crossover specifications (at a price of course) to an ancient Canadian Senior who is still, for some unknown, unfathomable reason, chasing THAT sound ? :) :)
Kudos to you for embarking on this adventure !!!
Thank you for your great comment! We’re working on how to make these available to everyone! :)
It’s been a challenge but we’re loving it, and I (James) found the crossover design to be HUGELY fun.
Waiting for part 3 is more agonising than waiting for the next game of thrones episode
The videos you output are not just interesting or useful, but straightforward exciting! The motivation and energy splashes off my computer monitor, it is contagious. I can't wait for part 3! Keep up the splendid work!
Exciting stuff guys. Looking forward to the cabinet episode. If there is any way of making it a DIY Project that even someone based all the way over in Australia can manage, count me in. I'd be happy to hear your interview with Stanislav Malikov from BlieSMa.
Yes! It would be great to see an interview with Mr. Stanislav Malikov.
I also installed Bliesma T34B tweeters in a two-way speaker. They are simply fantastic. Rich in detail, high resolution and your ears don't tire even after listening for a long time.
Great video! Would love to see the interview with Stanislov from BlieSMa!
I, in an opinion of my own, think that what you have done is very logical and you proceeded on a logical sequence to find the best drivers available around in present time and have got a really good answer to quality monitors. Wish you the best on this new company. We need demo rooms and audio shows like the old days.
Hi Guys we audiophiles definitely want to hear Stanislavs
Interview as well on driver choices for studio use or high end
Hi FI use. Can you please provide what ancillary equipment
one would need to use with these speakers at home.
Most important thing what is the PRICE for a pair of them ?
Not only your videos are top notch, you guys make a perfect team.
Thank you so much. That means a lot!
@@PresentDayProduction . Really interesting and nice work but nowadays with companies using spinorama machines ect do you really think it’s possible to better some of the proven designs ? Been thinking about making my own end game speakers for years but manufacturers have been forced to up their game so much I don’t think it’s worth it anymore.
We genuinely replaced our ATC SCM200’s, and haven’t looked back… we are working on getting some reviews in place :)
@@PresentDayProduction . Would like to see some decent measurements of these then maybe some build plans 👍
This series is fantastic! the amount of work and effort gone into this is incredible.
Thank you so much :)
I built my own passive studio monitors and active subwoofer using the Dayton audio reference woofers. I spent a lot of time researching and designing the speakers and crossovers, nothing to the level you guys have done as I had a limited budget being a student at the time, but I highly appreciate the work and passion you guys have put in!
I haven't been teased like this since i was 15.. :)
I forgot to comment on Discord that a nice thing the studio monitors market is missing is modularity, as in, buying 1 speaker an then upgrade from there it's analog inputs to a DSP based solution by just swapping the input module, or make a small 2 way cabinet sit atop a bass driver if you need to upgrade to 3 way+, and make the whole system work together. That would be a great innovation indeed.
If I don't see that video call I'm going to cry.
We’ll get right on that then! 😜
I'm definitely excited for the next episode and would love to hear that tweeter explanation.
Yep. Me too.
Really enjoying this series guys, hearing how you built these speakers is inspiring and it exemplifies what a great team you both make (also there's no denying how efficient and organised the Dutch are too) in my experience whenever I have ordered anything from Holland it arrives super fast and is usually quicker than ordering anything from the UK???? I look forward to watching part trois!
This is really exciting!! Can’t wait to hear these in person! 🙌
Loving this series so much! :D
Loved it. Best suspense series ever. Fingers crossed for pricing. Can you please post the call with Bliesma ? Cheers!
Loving this series! You lads are the best.
Dayton Reference Series woofers are a 'secret weapon' of a number of companies. In technical performance, they are truly excellent, and they are made in Taiwan - not China. There has been some variability in the tweeters of the Reference series due to a change from one supplier to another, but the supply of the Reference Series cone drivers is stable and has been with the same company since the beginning - while I was still in college. And if you compare the parameters and measurements from those early drivers to today's production drivers, you'll find they are not just similar, but practically the same, so there has been no drift in properties even though they have been in production for a long time.
They are good… but we use Purifi PTT8 woofers now on the full release model. They are a thousand times better with much lower distortion and more detail. Check out the current build at:
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Ok, this sounds astonishing. I'm clearly looking forward hearing them. And I'm looking forward the following videos, as well as price. You guys have certainly created a masterpiece.
Yes more driver content. Amazing series so far.
Wow what a rabbit hole you guys have gone down. Love it!
What an adventure, thanks for taking us along.
Another great video gents.
Keep ‘em coming. 💪🏿💪🏿👍🏿👍🏿🔥🔥💯💯
This is my favorite series on CZcams! Excited to hear the PDP Monitors! Looks very promising!! Great Job guys!
Excellent and passion driven as always! The main reason why i stick to your channel(s). Not only designing but also sharing the entire project keeps me looking forward to even more video's. Keep going on making quality video's like this guys.
Again, amazing stuff guys!
Excellent series of videos, well done. I'll be following it with great interest to see/hear the final results, especially knowing your regard for the ATC drivers and sound, and as a long time very happy ATC user myself.
So exciting, guys. Props to you
Absolutely!! Please make a video with the speaker designer.
Fantastic series and approach to every aspect of the design, and top-quality channel all round. Thank you, and keep up the great work.
Thanks Ashley!
Wow this is really when I can see audio engieenering in a very amusing way. Thanks for showing the details, these videos are amazing
I love these videos. Quite interesting and inspiring. I'd love to see that video call about those drivers!
what an incredible team ❤, I love your way of working and solving problems 😊
Thank you :)
I am so happy, guys! I was sure I could count on you. Now I know some good sources of new drivers. My past activity was too old and needed to be updated. My hifi box is made with a Dynaudio tweeter, Peerless mid and Seas woofer. And I always thought a cone mid was better than a dome one. Using lower frequency cut between woofer and mid. So I will find extremely challenging to build your monitor. I love that all dudes following you will get benefit from extremely accurate simulation with Trinnov to be transferred to Hypex crossover.
This is really amazing! You rock! Keep on this way, please!
I just love watching these two
'Aliens helped me' 🤣...had me in stitches (and the T-Shirt)!
Great video....can't wait to see part 3 👍🎵👍
Woop woop so excited for all that’s to come… and take it from someone who has had a sneaky listen to these speakers and WOW INSANE
THANK YOU
Fantastic Video :-) looking forward to the next video
I am so excited to hear these one day! 🙂
I’ve been watching your videos for a long time. When you reviewed the PSI monitors, i knew your ears were to be trusted, as those are by far the best monitors i have ever tested. Also your criticism of the Neumann monitors is very similar to what my ears detected, and most of your other reviews are concordant with my own opinions on those models.
i *know* that the work you’ve put into this new design is above top notch and i will gladly buy a pair once they’re ready ❤
You're getting me way to excited for a pair of speakers I've never heard in person.
Fantastic! I’m very interested in these speakers because I trust you guys 😎👍🏼
Great Great Great Great ! will be there for part 3 !
I’m on the final straight of building my first serious studio and now you’ve got me excited about these monitor speakers…I know you aren’t selling marketing BS but seriously care about sound quality.
Sound quality is above all the most important for us.
Well ducking done. This is such an achievement ❤
These videos are amazing and I am eagerly awaiting the next installment in the series!
Now for the question we have all been waiting for……..
Will you be making your DIY plans available to your audience to build these beauties?
…….
Please?
😅
Yes!!! YESYESYESYESYES! Move to Holland! 🤩… Fun fact, Quasar actually isn’t powered by Dutch amplifiers 😅
YES WYTSE! 😜😜😜
I couldn’t resist putting that in the video, big love 😎
No words! ❤❤❤❤❤
I spent the last month looking at diy monitor projects... This is amazing
*Amazing lads!* 👏👏😎👍
@Presentdayproduction Stellar vid on DIY Speaker building. Absolutely brings back memories of being a youngster at university building speaker cabinets together with my audio nerdy friends. Anyways - this vid inspires me to pick up this old hobby again to build me a set of beautiful sounding monitors and get rid of my modded KRK’s.
I’m already looking forward to your vid on the the cabinet design !!
These may be what I get when I do decide to upgrade. Either way great videos as always.
Hahah that Wytse snip made me lol so hard 😂 great vid guys!!
Here we go again guys, more information for you all
Very nice video! Beautiful monitors😍. And YES, move to Holland!🤗
Goooooood!!! Can't wait
Great work! When we can watch the 3d part? can't wait for it!!
Working on it now :)
Thanks for all of this. Great content! I’m looking to build a set of studio monitors myself.
That White Sea audio meme was funny ash
Thanks for introducing me to BlieSMa
looking forward to video 3!
You guys are The BEST! Because you are incredible Honest!!! And have Intelectual curiosity! And have Floppy haha 😂 Love you guys, from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
great stuff, many thanks! (also please post the Bliesma interview) :) You just gave me an exciting idea.... to build an 'auratone' type speaker from the midrange driver alone..
I love your videos and I am looking forward to seeing part 3 of your journey to your own DIY studio monitor.
However, I believe that your choice of woofer could be better.
You should try a B&C 12PS100 instead of the 8" Dayton. It will play in a 20l box tuned to 65hz, (-3db @65hz) has 93db sensitivity and since it is actually a PA driver, it can handle 700W which means that at studio levels it will have zero distortion (it can alternatively get some EQ to play down to 40Hz in a 40L box tuned to 39Hz).
It can even play in a 15l box tuned to 65Hz with F3 @72Hz which is still good for a satellite speaker crossed at 80hz.
Also with a sensitivity of 93db, it will be easier to drive without too much power, thus even less distortion and FR from 80 till 600Hz is +/-1db
At around 250euros it may be more expensive than the Dayton driver, but it is still cheap for what it does.
Yes they will not be full range, but I believe they will not need to be as soon as you have at least 4 adequate subwoofers for the low end.
Another suitable woofer could be the 12" SB Acoustics SB34NRXL75-8 which will play down to 45Hz (F3) in a 45L box tuned to 27Hz (F10), and quite a bit lower than that in a larger box.
BTW, I hope not many French people watch this video. They won't be happy when they hear you say "trois" for French (pronounced twaa, or t(r)waa, with the known French pronunciation of R)
Bliesma has been a hit in the high end car audio world. Lots of rave reviews, I'm glad they're also popping up in the diy speaker world too
They’re bloody amazing
Truly Outstanding Work.
So... Kit version incoming........;)
Great videos guys! Have u tried the sb acoustics textreme drivers as well? The mid 5" driver is a stunning! Super clean and detailed drivers.
Awsome, guys! I'd love to see the video-call with stanislaw
Thanks
Well actually watching the content of the channel from the beggining made me realise the importance of three-way speaker monitoring , i was thinking upgrading to neumann kh 310 or Dynaudio Core 47 , but after these new videos and all the work you 've done I'll certainly wait for these speakers to hit the market!! Can you give a time period ? When you think that you'll be ready to distribute ? Or is it too early for that ? ..also in wich price range you plan to sell these beatiful babies ?
Keep up with your great work!!
Amazing video
I just want these so muchhhhh
You 've made a speaker nerd out of me, somehow! Also, Mark, love the shirt!!!!
Cheers Achilles :)
6 inches!? Great explanation on the Trinnov MC and how it stands out. I’ve been having a hard time wrapping my mind around that one
VERY keen on your kits. I'm in Australia which won't be fun but a CNC design for the cabinets and your kits would be AMAZING! I currently have an older PMC 5.1 setup and would love LCR of your monitors and using my PMCS for the rest of the atmos setup.
Really interesting journey. Hope you'll be giving some final costs in part 3
Thanx this us amazing
Wat a great journey and lovely videos sofar. Looking forward to the next part and all the information. By the way, you're more then welcome in The Netherlands. Then I can listen to the speakers as well 😏
Thank you Garro!
I enjoyed again your informative and funny video. 🙂
I'm super impressed and intrigued, can you send us audio nerds a list of all parts required to replicate this incredible speaker?
This design is about 18 months old. A while back we actually improved on the design and now have the PresentDayProduction MUM-8. Check it out! www.presentdayproduction.com
Yes! Move to The Netherlands! I will make a dinner for you guys and make a cup of tea 😊 Great and lovely video ❤
Cheers Emiel!
@@PresentDayProduction Thank you, Mark and James!
Ohhh and it's u! Def clicked when I saw this!
Steller Vdieo of information and it came at the right time my monitors cross overs and tweeters are gone and thinking of getting ride of the old to make room for the new
Thanks! I am loving this speaker series! I can’twait to try and build my own! Please please tell me you guys are going to share the design and plans!?
Yes!
I have been fortunate to hear live music in good halls, in the control room, and through the recording chain. I'm looking forward to open sourcing this project. You surely know Audio Science Review. They would be a good addition to your UK-local technical consulting engineers.
why am I salivating....