The Witcher & Its Childish Writers

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
  • #andrewreviews #netflix #thewitcher
    So after the painfully dumb season 3 of the Witcher, the Witcher writers are officially in their gugugaga era.
    The Kotaku Article with Tomek Baginski: kotaku.com/the-witcher-season...
    The CBR.com article with Sophie Holland: www.cbr.com/witcher-anya-chal...
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:49 Insulting the Viewers
    4:05 Insulting the Actors
    5:12 Childishness
  • Krátké a kreslené filmy

Komentáře • 364

  • @olafmikoaj3121
    @olafmikoaj3121 Před 10 měsíci +702

    In Poland that guy Bagiński is commonly considered a traitor who has sold himself into "big western corporation". At first we were happy when netflix announced that he will be there to keep the show faithfull to the books. But after season one we understanded that they lied to everyone. Don’t listen to this guy, he is living in his own world.

    • @moonknightish
      @moonknightish Před 10 měsíci +53

      Baginski has been sidelined by the production of the show since Day 1. He should've left the production, but he really doesn't have any significant influence on the show.

    • @CloudKXII
      @CloudKXII Před 10 měsíci

      the fact that they get the guy to become a producer simply because he's Polish is proof that hollywood deserved to burn.

    • @olafmikoaj3121
      @olafmikoaj3121 Před 10 měsíci +30

      @@moonknightish Maybe not in the show itself but in contacts with media he is pretty important. If he had any self respect, he would've quit the production. But no, he decided to be Lauren's sidekick.

    • @Jo24689
      @Jo24689 Před 10 měsíci +41

      His the Judas of Poland.

    • @skyfitsheaven7393
      @skyfitsheaven7393 Před 10 měsíci +17

      He truly mastered the art of falling.

  • @kated3165
    @kated3165 Před 10 měsíci +229

    My favorite part was the Aretuza members being so horrified at Vilgefortz for murdering all those girls... guess they were mad at him for not properly sacrificing them in the traditional satanic eel ritual.

  • @matthieuzglurg6015
    @matthieuzglurg6015 Před 10 měsíci +42

    The Witcher is the textbook example of what a "Netflix adaptation" generally is:
    - take a well known source material (generally books, mangas, comics, anime, you name it) to get people interested instead of creating an original IP
    - disregard the original script as you think that it was made for different people in another historical context and you NEED to add you own spin on the story.
    - change the etnicity and looks of characters at random to please some people without applyting any logic to it (some people that are clearly white in the books are now black, and people from an unknown region in a desert in the south are almost all white? wtf is this)
    - say that the "fans" are toxic and actually ruining what they have done when they do not align with what youve done in the show.
    - never look back on what you've done and continue to go head first in a wall
    - get cancelled after the fourth season after the viewership has plummeted and Netflix decided it was time to get some money back

    • @DonBjerrum
      @DonBjerrum Před 10 měsíci +2

      Yes, this is Netflix' winning formula.

  • @justlivin2499
    @justlivin2499 Před 10 měsíci +228

    I’m an 17 year old American and I found the book series to be perfectly comprehensible, I think it may just be their problem that they don’t really understand it

    • @stoneone1479
      @stoneone1479 Před 10 měsíci +15

      Exactly they are just crappy writers and are too incompetent to properly tell a storey that's already been written

    • @woody_you_want
      @woody_you_want Před 10 měsíci +15

      It's always so annoying when people pull the "dumb Americans" card. There are so many complex pieces of art made and consumed in America

    • @zuriyel5368
      @zuriyel5368 Před 10 měsíci

      While the books deals with complex matters, they're told well enough that just anybody can understand them.
      Just like in school, if you've completely understood a subject regardless of the subject, then you're capable of explaining it with your own words.
      The writers simply don't understand The Witcher universe nor do they possess and understanding of how to write nuance.
      For example, in episode 1 of season 1, the dialogue is very stilted, especially when you compare it to how the short story is written, and they chose to emphasise that Geralt had to make a choice like 20 times.

    • @isaacchirgwin5943
      @isaacchirgwin5943 Před 10 měsíci

      They don't want to understand it so they can push their vision of someone else's work.

    • @andrewmack2161
      @andrewmack2161 Před 10 měsíci +6

      If you were a regular "Californian Twitter/Threads' user then you probably wouldn't have understood it... 😁

  • @rajahava
    @rajahava Před 10 měsíci +97

    4:26 In the book Yennefer was never described as the most beautiful woman in the world. Far from it actually. The title of most beautiful woman in the world was Francesca's.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 Před 10 měsíci +8

      You've got to be joking. Clearly the casting and the books have different ideas.

    • @KnightsRealm98
      @KnightsRealm98 Před 10 měsíci +29

      Yen wasn't even considered the most beautiful *sorceress*. Besides Francesca, we had Margarita, Fringilla, Sabrina, Síle, Triss, and Keira. Yen was definitely gorgeous, but much of that was also the deep love Geralt had for her. Didn't stop him from looking at other sorceresses, though. Not to mention that fling with Fringilla.

    • @MikeDunadan
      @MikeDunadan Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@@KnightsRealm98I still think Essi was Geralts true love. The unknown wish interfered. I mean come on, Dandelion sang a song about it which was so pure a hungry werewolf admired it.
      Yen sounded like she had a hooked nose and Beaty eyes, but they were purple so..purple equals exquisite.

    • @GM-gb1eu
      @GM-gb1eu Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@@MikeDunadanSapkowski said that the wish was not about making love between Geralt and Yen. Both characters never said that wish made that relationship.

    • @iPlayGamesITA
      @iPlayGamesITA Před 10 měsíci +11

      I remember reading in one of the first books a scene where Geralt pays attention to a series of imperfections in Yennefer's body while they're making love, and it's just perfect because he then says that he loves her anyway and sees her bautiful. How can that article make any sense if they totally ignored this little detail that changes everything completely? What a bunch of incompetents

  • @mismismism
    @mismismism Před 10 měsíci +264

    It's the arrogance for me while being so unaware of how often they directly contradict themselves. "Racism is bad" "The Elves are unfairly treated as a whole", proceeds to call all Americans dumb. Yennefer and the mage sacrifice, the show directly says Yen was ugly and weak and needed to give up whatever she needed to for beauty and magic to get a position of power, then they immediately undercut it by pushing "All bodies are beautiful" showing that actually, there is no pressure for women to look or act a certain way to have access to power in this world meaning all that stuff with Yennefer was actually meaningless.
    This season alone, they chose to have a scene where Yennefer, Ciri and Geralt take out Francesca and her crew with the greatest of ease, Geralt isn't even in the fight half the time and Yen is standing still with no cover holding open a portal while easily rag dolling them, but then a few episodes later they expect us to buy that these same people are taking on Tissaia and all the mages and are a credible threat to them in any way? That same scene as well, they have Geralt inexplicably break Rience's hands instead of killing him only to show them get instantly fixed with magic, they show mages healing themselves and others with magic a whole bunch of times but during the battle suddenly all the mages forgot they could do that. They even have Jaskier go "Oh, I thought Triss would have healed you by now" to Geralt and then they expect no one to be like "Why are none of the mages healing each other?".
    And the choreography even, they can't even be bothered to have characters find cover before dropping to the floor and having a long speech. It's set up like a turn based RPG, everyone is trying to kill each other until someone gets hit and then everyone just stops attacking them while they have their soap opera moment.
    No consistency, characters wildly fluctuate from helpless damsel to Super Saiyan with no explanation, motivations constantly shift and clash, they can't decide what message they want to send and stick to it but then it's everyone else's fault that they are this unbelievably incompetent.

    • @MajorKenshy
      @MajorKenshy Před 10 měsíci +17

      No to mention world completely don't feel like witcher world and have 0 European vibe... .😑

    • @randomglitchclips4463
      @randomglitchclips4463 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Honestly I seen pinball machines that say more consented,than this show.

    • @filipvadas7602
      @filipvadas7602 Před 10 měsíci +16

      The inconsistency is at its worst in the laet 3 episodes.
      The Scoia'tael seem to infinately respawn throughout the battle, never dropping in number despite them dropping like flies.
      And Geralt healing in the woods, bedridden, was completely done just to get him out of the story for as long as possible.
      We know this because he's being treated for supposedly weeks in the forest, slowly recovering with medicine and care from the Dryads, but then Yennefer shows up and heals him almost completely in one night.

    • @hallowrant8091
      @hallowrant8091 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I have nothing to add, this was a spot on comment.

    • @X500X-pn2rq
      @X500X-pn2rq Před 10 měsíci

      Well i'm usualiy somewhat kind od observator type of guy, not gettin into this posting what i feel about on comment sections above some (well Any kind od video reviwe or opiniom or analyis i just Sony comment on regular, but.....(....) There od something about this show that its just fukin afwul garbarge piece of shit and its not the matter of bot sticking to the oryginał source and just adopting IT properly ( Luke i m weel aware od that the tv show show is another medium than books and u cant make 1 to one adaptaions buta writers [tfu] arę just missing the wjole point of the witcher seriers just Turning around that what is essence of the saga into some bulshit [ like honestle I read the article from the showrunneer whatever the fuck is her name I don't care that I quate "it's about the family " few houndreds of pages multiple by 5 tomes it's in her opinion just aboutt the family OMG. Like don't get me wrong. Everything on that show Is just a fucking joke. In the worst possible way. Buy fact that the show runner speak pubicly and announce info like that its kind of oblivion for me because if u have smn that stops in charge of creating whole world around that in general is so amazing because its not another hig fantasy but a world full of grey shades of humanity/showing that there's not good or evil. Well there's no good there are just people who try to rip of everyone else just to make their point. It's a matter of picking less evil option but to be honest does it fly make sense it's all that bulshit all over again and again and still Geralt is trying (in the books obviously) not to kill anyone even if they are literally monsters. It's so simple and yet showing the real face about our reality even now essay about human nature. U know what I get way too much emetional. The point why u write this is if u don't{or R stupid enough to don't see what's all the fuss about I'm not sure which one is it rly} u cant make a good show if u re a show runner and fail in the first step , GEETING WHAT IT IS ABOUT, THEN EVERY other piece of domino will just go sideways. Everything in that series is wrong bad and awful and I watch a lot o videos about it ( I'm polish love the books play 2 first one games as kidoo don't have time to play third one but for sure will if I have time) it's bad in every aspect , costumes, script writing, ur Dakin arrogance that u d@mb fucks had better ideas than a author of the witcher. Mr.sapkowski. buy ur managed to spoil it on every like every aspect u could. You did. You're real disaster artist. Roomy wiseau should lick your shoes( he's at least campy and fanny In what he did, probably he don't want it this way but the door it's fun to watch ur show it's like total garbage not a single smile or eh or ah or anything u spoiled sth that was so good at origin {Henry Cavill the best you made out of thick gold chunk that u turned into piece of turd} I could recorded a 24/7 rant about how the creators are just not even incompetent but dumb aaaas fuck team of untalented stupid people who are just threating multi milion produstion like a subway kind of side hustle job. I hope u get fired out and never,never in any medium get opurtinity to express yourself cuz u got a turd personality. Over...

  • @kevinroark5815
    @kevinroark5815 Před 10 měsíci +60

    I have been saying all along. This show feels like it's written by children.

  • @olive4093
    @olive4093 Před 10 měsíci +65

    These CW writers are the worst thing to happen to modern media

    • @TheEroina
      @TheEroina Před 10 měsíci +9

      it does look like a cheap underfinanced CW show indeed lol. personally i've been cringing from makeup and costume designers this season so hard. women's makeup was so fucking visible with Yen's pinky nails and Ciri's annoyingly visible mascara on her lashes - this kind of details always spoil the overall impression. not to mention Yen's dresses that was obviously bought from some cheap mass market. just a lazy work overall.

    • @justlivin2499
      @justlivin2499 Před 10 měsíci +2

      At least CW gave us Arrow s1-5, that’s more than Netflix Witcher can say

    • @Baratheon.
      @Baratheon. Před 10 měsíci

      CW shitshows are the bane of my existence

  • @rymdalkis
    @rymdalkis Před 10 měsíci +88

    I can't stop laughing at the idea of the casting director looking at Anya Chalotra thinking "oh yeah, this'll challenge people's perceptions of beauty"

    • @nirachien2274
      @nirachien2274 Před 10 měsíci +4

      She's not white. The character was written as white. That is the change in perception of beauty. All the hate levelled against her casting to begin with proves that it did challenge people.

    • @Carrot880
      @Carrot880 Před 10 měsíci +5

      In the first book it clearly says that though attractive in her own way, Yennefer wasn't exactly of great beauty. I think it describes Anya Chalotra, but of course it's a matter of taste.

    • @vera3147
      @vera3147 Před 10 měsíci

      @@nirachien2274 Yen wasn't ever written as "white" per modern standards. The "white" concept wasn't even existing in 90's Poland, and still isn't fully applying to half of the European countries.
      Yen was specifically described as a nosy witch with curly black hair and non-human ancestry. If anything, she was pretty blatantly hinted to be an equivalent of a jew to the medieval catholic Poland.

    • @sirtroglodyte4956
      @sirtroglodyte4956 Před 10 měsíci +21

      Imagine Anya's reacton to this.
      "We wanted to challenge people's perception of beauty..."
      "Hey!"
      "...that's why we chose this flat, unremarkable, boring..."
      "I'm right here in the room!"
      "...and frankly a bit of an... let's say 'odd' woman."
      "SCREW YOU!"

    • @MrEagorath
      @MrEagorath Před 10 měsíci +5

      No, that is a change in description of a character.. a defining thing....
      Beauty comes in all colours and forms.
      White is not a beautymark, it's a description... just as "red hair" "tall" "brown" "short"... fucking hell how dense can you be if you think raceswapping a character is a challenge of perception of beauty.

  • @BertoPlease
    @BertoPlease Před 10 měsíci +57

    Insane Rian Johnson "they just dont get it" energy from the writers

    • @shuang7877
      @shuang7877 Před 10 měsíci +8

      As much as I dislike The Last Jedi, Rian Johnson is Mozart compared to the Witcher writers.

    • @luchomscyfy
      @luchomscyfy Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@shuang7877Barely, he can be Salieri....

  • @James_Bee
    @James_Bee Před 10 měsíci +16

    Yen: I want power
    That one dude: You understand the cost? Your ability to create life?
    Yen: I want power!
    Season 2 Yen: NOBODY TOLD ME I WOULD LOSE MY ABILITY TO HAVE A CHULD! MY CHOICE WAS TAKEN FROM ME! MY BODY, MY CHOICE! RRREEEEEE
    Ye, Yen. It is your body. You chose power.
    The writers for this show are MORONS.

    • @vera3147
      @vera3147 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Like the book Yen probably made the same choice and then kept trying to reverse the damage. Just like in the show, she wanted both her cake and eat it too, though she not once blamed anything on anyone.

    • @mophead1666
      @mophead1666 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@vera3147Yeah this comment is pretty dumb. They may have exaggerated this in the show but this was present in the book as well. So take issue with Sapkowski I guess.
      (There's a lot of symbolism there, what with Ciri becoming her daughter, Destiny, etc).

    • @juonithzramos1089
      @juonithzramos1089 Před 10 měsíci

      Season 2 was god awful

  • @sofieruquiba1190
    @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci +25

    I don't know how the mages fought decently with a variety of spells in the battle of Sodden Hill & now the only spells they know is shield and push. WTF. Episode 6 of Season 3 of the Witcher could have been very good instead of just ok but the writers are so lazy that they just refuse to put any effort into their jobs

  • @JasperLane
    @JasperLane Před 10 měsíci +16

    I refused to be labled as an idiot by a man who had a key part in making this show

    • @caindarin9665
      @caindarin9665 Před 10 měsíci +3

      As a fellow American your statement is far too complex and nuanced for me to understand. LMAO

  • @hallowrant8091
    @hallowrant8091 Před 10 měsíci +40

    I have read the books several times...and I may be missing it, but I dont ever recall her being described as the most beautiful woman in the world other than maybe Giancarldi at Gors Velen who was just attempting to flatter her.

    • @massPanic22
      @massPanic22 Před 10 měsíci +22

      Pretty sure in the books Francssca Findabair, Enid an Gleanna, is described ad the most beautiful woman in the world, and If I remember right it not even magically enhanced beauty, like the other mages. Though maybe I misremember, it was never Yennefer.

    • @stur3366
      @stur3366 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Wasn't she just described as basic but it was her charisma and magic that gained attention? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @massPanic22
      @massPanic22 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @stur3366 pretty sure all the sorceresses are meant to be beautiful, as they all most use magic to be so. With a few that don't use magic.

    • @hallowrant8091
      @hallowrant8091 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You are definitely remembering correctly. It was Francesca that was described that way

    • @hallowrant8091
      @hallowrant8091 Před 10 měsíci

      I wouldnt go that far. Though she was using magic, she told Ciri that nobody would even notice her(Ciri) when she was with her(Yen) at the gates of Gors Velen

  • @skyfitsheaven7393
    @skyfitsheaven7393 Před 10 měsíci +28

    I'm so dissappointed with Bagiński, I remember admiring him when I was younger, I was impressed by his Cathedral and Art of Falling so I was excited to see him and Cavil in the show, they both were already such big assets, or so I thought. Unlike Cavil, Bagiński not only didn't fight for the show but willingly agreed to its downfall. I hope to him the money was worth the disgrace, he truly mastered the art of falling.

    • @sarasunshinemt4444
      @sarasunshinemt4444 Před 10 měsíci +7

      In his defense, he may have thought all Americans are idiots after having to deal with the writers and showrunners they hired for The Witcher.
      Explaing nuance, strategy and consistency must have been impossible.
      Quite frankly, with the strike going on in Hollywood right now, I hope the entire industry implodes. It's gotten that bad with the crap they spew out for the last 5 years, in particular.

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 Před 10 měsíci +2

      He was paid alot of money but he doesn't have final say on studio production and story direction.

    • @zuriyel5368
      @zuriyel5368 Před 10 měsíci +1

      The star of the show himself couldn't do anything and he's a much bigger name.
      Just because you didn't hear about him fighting for changes, it doesn't mean that he didn't.
      For example, let's look at how Hissrich talked about Henry Cavill adding to the writing in season 2. That's a marketable name to the general audience, showing that the lead star loves his job.
      If she said Baginski instead of Cavill, a lot less people as well as news outlets would care 'cos that name is insignificant to the general audience.

  • @hazalad
    @hazalad Před 10 měsíci +22

    The writers went full Rings of Power. You never go full Rings of Power.

    • @mrksimka1159
      @mrksimka1159 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Thank you stranger, now I also will substitute this word with Rings of Power. Fits like a glove :)

  • @RizZy28
    @RizZy28 Před 10 měsíci +11

    The Witcher seems like one of those shows that you hear about where the script has done the rounds in hollywood for years & every studio has had a go at rewriting it & given up, finally someone decided to give it a go & tagged the witcher name onto it in the hopes that it'd be enough to draw in an audience.

  • @mmoney9362
    @mmoney9362 Před 10 měsíci +34

    Put the blame where it belongs. Yes, the writers are complicit but the producer, the director and the studio executives make the decisions about all aspects of the production. If the director, has creative control (or enough) they can literally rewrite the screenplay to reflect their interpretation of the material…they often decide who the writers are going to be.

    • @surf4chnl248
      @surf4chnl248 Před 10 měsíci

      Both are garbage

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 Před 10 měsíci

      That's actually stipulated in rights contract that studios call the shots.

    • @martindenham2207
      @martindenham2207 Před 10 měsíci

      In TV, it's the showrunner who's responsible. They're the ones who have developed & steered the project into production and will oversee the production, including who's hired. A director is little more than a hired hand for one or a number of episodes. Even when they're the director of the pilot, so they establish the visual aesthetic of the show that all subsequent directors will follow, they're still at the mercy of the showrunner. A director who comes onboard afterwards can't really influence anything as the visual aesthetic is already established and the shows scripts or story arcs are already in place. The director is really only there to help the actors, block the scenes for camera and deliver the shots. They don't always get to edit the rushes as the showrunner or an edit producer might be assigned to deliver the finished episode.

  • @Grimalken1969
    @Grimalken1969 Před 10 měsíci +4

    This isn't the Witcher anymore, it's "Princess Ciri and The Seven Magical Creatures."

  • @sofieruquiba1190
    @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci +14

    THE WITCHER SEASON 2 ,
    one of my biggest problem with season 2 was that i was looking for character interactions & some good dialog but nobody talked about anything except for some witty small talk. i blame the writers because they had an opportunity for some character development & wasted it. they didn't development CIRI & GERALT relationship in the right way when they had the opportunity. the writers rushed to get to KAER MORHEN when they didn't need to. they should have taken their time to let CIRI & GERALT build a relationship. don't even get me started on the on the fact that they skipped the time when CIRI was a child [ 6 or 8 years old ] & GERALT saved her. it was the first time , they met. how could the writers skip that. the writers completely character assassinated YENNEFER by having her betray CIRI & GERALT. i don't care if she changed her mind & saved her in the end. none of YENNEFER choices or actions make any sense in season 2. there no way that YENNEFER would ever allow any child to get possessed just to get her magic back. she might do something like that to an adult but never a child. i can't understand why YENNEFER would save CAHIR , i can see someone like TRISS not wanting to murder CAHIR but i don't see YENNEFER being bothered about killing some Nilfgaardian she doesn't know or care about. plus i'm shocked that GERALT didn't kill YENNEFER for putting CIRI in so much danger. that's really out of character for him. its really weird that he's so forgiving at the end of season 2. i will be the first to admit i don't like YENNEFER after she left her magic school. i really liked her character when she a hunch back. she interesting & not such a bitch. it seems like instead of trading her womb for her looks , she traded her ability to have kids to be a bitch. i don't have a problem with her being sassy & a slight bitch but her being queen bitch all the time makes it seem like her only character trait. i don't know what GERALT see in her honestly. even in the books & games , they have nothing in common other than CIRI. a child is not enough to make a relationship work. i have no clue why the writers killed ESKEL. they brought in a bunch of new witchers in season 2 but choose to kill ESKEL. instead of killing a new witcher off. that's nonsensical

    • @Thenoobestgirl
      @Thenoobestgirl Před 10 měsíci

      You do realize that when capitalizing names you're only supposed to capitalize the first letter, right?

    • @Sultaanash
      @Sultaanash Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​@Thenoobestgirl that's what u took from his comment?

    • @sofieruquiba1190
      @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Lmao 🤣

    • @surf4chnl248
      @surf4chnl248 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Well said. Plot doesn’t make any sense. @Sofie

    • @sarasunshinemt4444
      @sarasunshinemt4444 Před 10 měsíci

      Exactly. I haven't read the books or played the games (I have the 3rd one, it's on my to-do list), but I liked the first season but was fast getting tired of Yennifer's character. Quite frankly, after the episode with the dragon, she could go pound sand for all I cared. And Ciri became insufferable in season 2. From immediately rewatching season one to taking over 3 months to watch season 2, I'm not going to bother with season 3. Not even for Henry Cavill, who is the ONLY brightside of that series.

  • @derekbrandell8520
    @derekbrandell8520 Před 10 měsíci +11

    I still think it's wierd that a guy who was nobody for the last 3 seasons is suddenly important. For 3 seasons they ignored him completely but now he is more important than Hissrich? Nah I don't think so.

    • @derekbrandell8520
      @derekbrandell8520 Před 10 měsíci

      I just had to block "CBR" from news feeds because they just write one paragraph posts and click bait bullshit with no substance.

  • @kittydearth4178
    @kittydearth4178 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Henrich & the writers ruined the show, not Henry Cavill. If they got rid of them & got Henry Cavill back & stuck to the books this show would be a major hit that could go on for quite sometime.

  • @bluewings2
    @bluewings2 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Oh wow... they are for real ? Wow... They are... pathetic... I'm not even mad anymore, I was mixed during the first season, very mad during season 2, didn't watched the third and probably never wil even if part of me want to see Cavill in this role one last time (all my respects to this guy). They did a bad job in almost every level, making bad decisions after bad decisions, and now they try to blame the audience to excuse themselves. Very classy guys, very classy.

  • @eugenetzigane
    @eugenetzigane Před 10 měsíci +4

    You say 'childish'. I say 'narcissistic'. After all, children are narcissistic to survive. Then they grow up. But if they're already adults, then they're just narcissists.

  • @aluncurtis6124
    @aluncurtis6124 Před 10 měsíci +9

    If you dumb down for an audience you get a dumb audience. I followed Game of Thrones easily, the Witcher just confused the shit out of me.

    • @kirglow4639
      @kirglow4639 Před 10 měsíci +4

      If they were trying to dumb things down, they did a horrible job because following the politics in the show was unbearable

  • @kristijan8518
    @kristijan8518 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Writers blaming audience for being dumb is equivalent to a tailor creating a suit too tight and then blaming the customer that he's too fat. Basically doing his job wrong and blaming the customer.

  • @xgonne
    @xgonne Před 10 měsíci +2

    I do hate bad arguments, especially for positions I basically agree with. The writers aren't being childish and the reasons provided do not back that argument.
    They are placing an agenda over any form of decent storytelling. This is not a childish act; it's a sociopolitical one. Ignoring the source material isn't a childish act; it's one of ego. These are intentional actions; ones born from a (mandated?) belief, not a childish one.
    Insulting the audience (the "insulting the actors" section also falls into this category, 'cause you're not insulting Anya Chalotra by calling her good looking) is common practice now from failed and failing content which has an ideological bent. Take a beloved character or franchise and then instruct the audience on why they are wrong and then insult the fans for not appreciate their adaptational choices and being talked down to - they are wrong to treat the fans like children, and the fans would be wrong to consider the writers likewise.

  • @seanzibonanzi64
    @seanzibonanzi64 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Both the Witcher books and games, in all their nuance and complexity, were hits in America. You know what isn't? The show.

    • @Grimalken1969
      @Grimalken1969 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Almost 100 million people world-wide bought the games and the books. We understand the complexity and intrigue. Hell, it was the complexity that made Game of Thrones such a hit.

  • @jackkelly6282
    @jackkelly6282 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Writers ask fans what they want. The fans tell them what they want. Writers then tell the fans no, call the fans a bunch of morons & give them the exact opposite. Writers then have the audacity to take up more of your time pretending to be mystified over the fact that their project made no money. The whole process of this behaviour is really creepy.

    • @derekbrandell8520
      @derekbrandell8520 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Or maybe, and bear with me here. Netflix didn't hire real writers, maybe they hired some interns for cheap. Netflix seems to be the knock off version of a movie maker to me.

  • @ninavaughn2274
    @ninavaughn2274 Před 10 měsíci +2

    A bit confused because the writer of Game of Thrones is American. The writers that adapted the show are Americans. Yes, almost all the cast is English due to the plot being set in old times. It was produced by an American company: HBO. We , Americans, also have shows such as Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Succession, etc.

    • @BKPrice
      @BKPrice Před 10 měsíci

      Of course, the author of GoT was also an American.

  • @kernanandrews3374
    @kernanandrews3374 Před 10 měsíci

    I am so glad you got to see this magnificent show!
    Your review of the Wacken performance captures how I felt seeing them in Dublin.

  • @mongrelking5667
    @mongrelking5667 Před 10 měsíci +2

    If only there was an example of a succesful medieval fantasy show being faithful to the books and not shying away from complex geopolitical themes... No, let's dumb it down and when people complain it's dumb let's say it's their fault. Genius.

  • @andrewjazdzyk1215
    @andrewjazdzyk1215 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Idk, a lot of modern writers are childish, and I think part of it is that they've grown up using references in lieu of actual writing.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 10 měsíci

      Way too many shows nowadays feature dialogue where everyone speaks in pseudo-profound bullshit. It's supposed to sound deep and intelligent but they all sound like pretentious wankers.

  • @NolanB91
    @NolanB91 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Henry was right to quit. It sucks for the other actors in the show because at the end of the day it is a job for them. I hope a new writer who is a massive fan reboots it on another streaming service. 10 episode season per book. It can be done.

  • @MartinzW
    @MartinzW Před 10 měsíci +2

    I was never a fan of GoT (not an American, just too stressful for anxious me is all) - but I am glad it exists. Precisely for the reason to show that average show can be complex and popular, and it's the simplifications (last few seasons of GoT) that actually can make it worse.
    There's nothing wrong with simplifications but they have to be done well in context, same with complications. Yesterday I watched the new TMNT film - it was simple and easy to watch, it wasn't trying to pretend to be deep and it turned out pretty good with awesome art style - in terms of animated movie rating, it wasn't as good as Shrek but it was never pretending to be on that level of story telling.

  • @captainfaultier9320
    @captainfaultier9320 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This all reminds me of "Master and Commander" where they swapped the american ship, from the source material, with a french ship and also swapped the war of 1812 with the napoleonic wars. Because of the filmmakers who thought: "If americans are depicted as evil, they might not want to watch it!"... Bruh...

  • @32VN0
    @32VN0 Před 10 měsíci +2

    After watching the first season which I though was mostly awful, and part of the second which was pretty much unwatchable all around except for maybe one episode (yes, the episode were his friend is cursed to be a monster and it's also a story closed on itself), the only manner I find to extract anything that resembles something decent and logical out of this universe is watching what should have been videos, and commentaries from the viewers. I attempted 15 minutes of season 3 and fell asleep so if I attempt anything else of this content, it will be directly from the source: books or games. Feel kind of bad for Cavill though..

  • @norrinzelkarr8572
    @norrinzelkarr8572 Před 10 měsíci

    "off the grid" - an actual phrase used in a Witcher episode, where in-show characters apparently know what the internet or a power grid is

  • @flamespire2235
    @flamespire2235 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Baginski was fucked by netflix, I think when he's insulting americains hes actually just talking about how the writing team dumbed everything down for the audiences and that might have been his interpretation of that. I dont really think we should hate on this guy, he's the guy that directed all three of the games' opening cgi sequences and is a very devoted witcher fan. He expected a bigger role in this netflix adaptation which is why he came overseas to do it, but got put into a more background role by netflix. For more information on the show's downfall and most probably the actual perpetrators, I recommed ALien Platypus' 5 part video essay on the subject. He goes a lot more in depth and with a much more deep understanding then can ever be accomplished from a 10 minute video about an article.

  • @larslundandersen7722
    @larslundandersen7722 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Casting Anya Chalotra and claiming you are challenging beauty standards. Bro please. That woman is gorgeous, that's not challenging anything

  • @sanjinladisic821
    @sanjinladisic821 Před 10 měsíci +1

    720,000,000 people live in Europe. There are 448 million EU residents, so the US is not the biggest market.

  • @SchwaWasHere
    @SchwaWasHere Před 10 měsíci +3

    They simplified it alright
    Not because we are stupid,but because Netflix couldn't bother to put in the effort

  • @martindenham2207
    @martindenham2207 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Immaturity is a genuine problem in society at the moment, regardless of age. In fact, I've found immaturity in adults is much more aggressive than in children. I guess this is because an adult has a lot more experience of being immature than a child does.

  • @grodesby3422
    @grodesby3422 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Many of the most complex TV shows are American - The Wire, Sopranos, etc

  • @RamothMizpah
    @RamothMizpah Před 10 měsíci +1

    The answer to your “why“ question at the end of the video is simply, because we have stopped engaging in thoughtful discourse. No longer do we listen to other points of views, and give them thought and maybe readjust our own opinions. Today we approach disagreements and arguments from the viewpoint that our own opinions are only right one and all others are wrong. We’ve become close minded and deaf.

  • @xc43t
    @xc43t Před 10 měsíci +1

    Don´t we all experience this dumbed down version of reality daily? I watched the mainstream public TV after some months now and everything is completely black and white, there is no nuance. If it is that way here in Czech republic I am sure it has to be there up north as well. Wiedzmin always had this "everything is grey" tone to it. Having the show made deliberately stupid reflects the current political climate perfectly.

  • @rincemind8369
    @rincemind8369 Před 10 měsíci

    On point. Gave me a hard laugh. Thank you.

  • @sofieruquiba1190
    @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I hate it. Its genuinely the worst season of television in the last decade. Outside of GOT. Besides the writers are doing a Marvel style multiverse to explain the different GERALT. The writers don’t even know how to read because the Witcher franchise has many different worlds , not different versions of the same world. Plus if you know Blood Origin , you know Eredin Bréacc Glas , the king of the Wild Hunt is really non-threatening & is basically a joke so there is no hope of The show getting better. Things like this is why nobody cares about the writers & actors strike. They have really been making complete garbage tv shows recently. Willow , Rings of Power , Velma , Cleopatra , Blood Origin & Secret Invasion. These are just the show's I can remember off the top of my head. There must be so many others. People are sick of watching terrible tv. Hollywood is determined to ruin it self & they have pissed the audience off so much that people are happy that they will be mostly gone

  • @sofieruquiba1190
    @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci +2

    😆. I don't think anyone can explain the Swicher Season’s 2 & 3 tv series , not the writers , not the producers or anyone. Its not even about Henry Cavill leaving the show anymore. The quality of everything has just hit rock bottom after Season 1. The costumes are bad. The dialogue is horrible. The pacing of the scenes was terrible & that especially causes the episodes in Season 3 to be slow & and it dragged on and on. The writers don’t have a coherent plan for the plot, so the characters suffer from poor characterization that often make no logical sense & will often result in actions that are so nonsensical that its basically characters assassination decisions in the show. The writers try to focus on political intrigue, but because they suck at writing anything new , it resembles season 8 of Game of Thrones

    • @Thenoobestgirl
      @Thenoobestgirl Před 10 měsíci

      I agree with everything but the costumes. I think they're pretty dope. Only thing that didn't make sense to me about them is where tf do they get their fancy clothes while ON THE RUN????

    • @sofieruquiba1190
      @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @Thenoobestgirl that what I mean. How do you get clothes like that when they moving from place to place? The Witcher is in the 13 century time period. Why is Yennefer wearing a blouse and Indian fashion ? It's Poland. Which if I'm not wrong is in Europe. I don't care if the actor Anya Chalotra is Indian , acting is her profession , race swapping characters is insulting because acting is a job , they pretend to be other people , i don't think diversity & inclusion have much to do with acting, judging from the generic recent Hollywood but if you are putting time & money into a job then you better do it correctly. Not that it matters but I'm mixed race and I can say for everyone that I know none of us care about this fake woke diversity and inclusion bullshit, it hasn't improved anything but it has made us cringe in embarrassment and awkwardness because guess what they are not that much black gay disabled people. Sorry for ranting but its gotten so beyond stupid at this point. The amount of people I know is over 1000.

  • @count_of_pizza
    @count_of_pizza Před 10 měsíci +2

    Lol, they messed up timelines in the first season because we are not smart enough to understand linear story?

  • @harrietmuchu4070
    @harrietmuchu4070 Před 10 měsíci

    There seems to be a new idea in television and media now that people cannot understand or relate to HUMAN stories unless they can directly identify with that culture, which to me, is just crazy. I grew up in Africa as an African watching Indian epics, bollywood movies, kung fu movies, Nollywood movies and of course, hollywood movies. Even today in Africa people watch stories from all across the world; korean and chinese fantasy, marvel, europen fantasy, african epics etc.... At the core of the human experience are certain ideals, archetypes, stories, etc....that transcend culture, which we can all relate to. Love, hate, ambition; treachery, tyranny, power and abuse of power, failure, redemption, etc... All these human stories have been enacted in every human civilization over millenial. It boggles my mind when I hear people say they cannot relate to a story because it is not from or similar to their culture...

  • @dragoonzen
    @dragoonzen Před 10 měsíci +2

    All the characters in the show are incompetent and idiots compare to their book counterpart.

  • @eikestolze9109
    @eikestolze9109 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The Witcher saga is far more complicated than "A Song of Ice and Fire". "Game of Thrones" is a fictional medieval feudal tale with a touch of magic, while the Witcher saga is a multi-layered, magic-infused, low-fantasy tale with nods to ancient European fairy tales and myths. Both novel cycles are not at all comparable. And yes, I think "Game of Thrones" was so successful because it was easy to adapt because of the straight and simple storytelling. The Geralt saga, with all its plot twists, "the chosen-one" theme and pervasive influence of magic, is much more difficult to adapt in my opinion. And the writers definitely screwed that up.
    To me there are two possibilities as to why so much of the content in the books was changed and simplified.
    The first possibility is that the authors of the series themselves did not understand or did not want to understand the plot (it is known that many of them did not like the novels), and therefore adapted the content to their own preferences.
    The second possibility is that the writers of the series felt that the average non-fantasy fiction viewer couldn´t manage all the Eastern European backgrounds, the fairytale references (Renfri = Snow White), the lack of the typical good-evil scheme and the slightly undifferentiated world-building. The books are "fantasy for professionals" and not really suitable for the average streaming audience. I think that's what Baginski wanted to express. And let's be honest: 80% of young Americans don't even know where Poland is, let alone even recognize Sapkowski's references to European history and myths.
    A simplification of the plot would be fine if done well - and unfortunately it isn't. The first time I knew where we are in the novel was at the battle of Aretuza (Episode 6). Before that point I asked myself in every episode "Where are we now in the book and are we still in it?" I was even satisfied with the last three episodes, just because I knew what happened because I had read the books!" And this should not be the only reason for appreciating the series. But it was...
    The books are very mature, the series is, as you said, childish.
    Sorry, long text.

    • @vera3147
      @vera3147 Před 10 měsíci

      >>80% of young Americans don't even know where Poland is, let alone even recognize Sapkowski's references to European history and myths.
      Sorry you mean the same Americans who grew up watching the Disney's retellings of the same European tales, also brought to the screen by Americans?
      Knowing anything abt Poland is not required to enjoy the books. It would've been a shitty book had it only alluded to the Poland's unique history, and no one else. Sapkowski's specifically set up a fictional world to explore the themes without any irl baggage.
      Having a clue about Poland's history would help, but is not required. Same as knowing much about War of the Roses or Mediterranian history isn't requried to enjoy ASOIAF.
      Netflix's writers seem to be both terrrible writers and terrible readers, which is much more insulting. They keep writing characters and the tropes they were supposed to mock. They keep building up much dumber wokeness above the progressive ideas that already existed in the books, but were much more nuanced and cleverly written. It's just depressing how little they understand of the source material, and how little they care about their own jobs.

    • @eikestolze9109
      @eikestolze9109 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@vera3147 Well, when did Disney release the last good film adaptation of classic European fairy tales?! Those who grew up with it probably already have grandchildren.
      Maybe the quality of the script was a prelude to the writers' strike, like: You get what you pay.

    • @vera3147
      @vera3147 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@eikestolze9109 it's a bit too early for 90s kids to have grandchildren though :)
      My point is, Americans have as much exposure growing up to classic European fairytales. It's not like they're culturally all that different.
      What TWN writers most definitely lack though, is the knowledge of fantasy genre. Most of them were writing contemprorary drama before, and it shows.

  • @FeoXD
    @FeoXD Před 10 měsíci

    Very underrated video, good watch ❤

  • @Maidenless007
    @Maidenless007 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The argument of audiences not understanding nuance is an asinine notion that actually makes me mad because that's the exact mentality that giant corporations are too eager to adopt. Spoiler: almost EVERY lauded piece of art in history is built on nuance. The greatest film producers, game writers, and artists all use it to great advantage, and it gives audience the most enjoyable entertainment even if they don't consciously know why. TRUST YOUR AUDIENCE.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Not a great look when one producer literally brags about hiring half the actors based on skin colour, which is frankly a massive slap in the face to said actors, and another calls the audience idiots to deflect criticism.

  • @eikestolze9109
    @eikestolze9109 Před 10 měsíci

    4:20 If I remember correctly, Schmidt-Hissrich's statement is wrong anyway: In the novel, Francesca Findabair is called the most beautiful woman in the world, not Yennefer!

  • @pedanticperson1149
    @pedanticperson1149 Před 10 měsíci

    Re: the ultimatum
    Not sure that's treating the audience as less intelligent, from what I remember they removed a scene where Geralt was told about the Tridam ultimatum (take hostages & ransom them), Geralt knew they were going to do that in the village & his solution to the ultimatum was to slaughter them first (& was branded a butcher because no one knew what Renfri & her band were going to do). For some reason the writers of the show seem to have wanted to reference it with just the word ultimatum, which was irksome.

    • @andrewreviews
      @andrewreviews  Před 10 měsíci

      That is a fair argument, yet the general audience wouldn't have the benefit of knowing what it is referencing.

  • @hayofriese8698
    @hayofriese8698 Před 10 měsíci

    The problem in modern writing in movies and shows is that they're SO hell bent on appealing to ALL masses and that many producers think they're so much smarter than the audience. They had a good story in their hands and it would've appealed to the masses regardless cause it has showed itself thriving in diverse media already as it was. Fantasy played out through history requires a history that makes sense. Game of Thrones NAILED that. Witcher quite literally butchered it.
    These guys had everything, EVERYTHING laying out there in the palm of their hands, and thought "hell no fuck this witcher dude yay yenni stans!"

  • @hallowrant8091
    @hallowrant8091 Před 10 měsíci +7

    This guy is doing exactly what he claims Americans do. He has conflated Los Angeles or New York with the entire country(hence the cast). The US is very much divided regionally and there are fierce political differences. Sure, the average 14 year old tiktoker is pretty stupid and ignorant...but why would you put nudity and sex scenes in a show if you believed that was your audience??
    This is all deflection for them taking a Porsch of source material, immediately wrecking it, and delivering back to us a beat up Kia.

  • @BiggieTrismegistus
    @BiggieTrismegistus Před 10 měsíci

    As an American I know what happned during the Warsaw Uprising. I really don't think you'd have a hard time selling *Americans* on the idea that *the Soviet Union* would be up to no good. We spent decades hearing that.

  • @356Krisu
    @356Krisu Před 10 měsíci +1

    How did Bagiński slither his way into this position is beyond me. Dude is reponsible for trailers of the games, which, granted, are nice, but that skill and experience does not translate into showmaking whatsoever, ironically enough.

  • @HEKVT
    @HEKVT Před 10 měsíci +1

    There were writers for the Netflix Witcher?
    In all seriousness, they had the source material with an established fan base but they made it into generic fantasy tropes. Such a wasted opportunity.

  • @fantasywind3923
    @fantasywind3923 Před 10 měsíci

    Good example wiht the pilot episode!!!! Hahaha :) yeah it was dumbed down big time, the original short story titled THE LESSER EVIL was all about this build up and slowly rising tension, there was suspence as Geralt and other gradually learned of the plot of Renfri and there was this case of so called 'tridam ultimatum' which turned out to be very mysterious at first for those who didn't know the event, which included Geralt initially :).
    [Refnri]: “Who knows, witcher, who knows. There are arguments which cannot be opposed or resisted, there are also offers which cannot be reject. Among these there’s for instance the Tridamian ultimatum. I will offer him Tridamian ultimatum.
    [Geralt]:“What is such an ultimatum?”
    “My sweet secret.”
    “Let it be. Yet I doubt if it’s going to be effective. Stregobor’s teeth chatter, when talking about you. An ultimatum, which would convince him to surrender of his own accord into your beautiful hands would have to be a mighty one, indeed. Let us then proceed to the other person who can prevent carnage in Blaviken. I shall try to guess who this person is.”
    Later we find what the "Tridamian ultimatum" is:
    [...] “In Tridam. You haven’t heard? It was common gossip about three... Well, yes, must have been three years ago, for Marilka was two then. The Baron of Tridam kept some thugs in his dungeon. Their companions, they say that that cur, Civril, was also among them, they captured a river ferry teeming with pilgrims, it was at the time of Nis Festivity. They sent to the baron demanded liberation of those. The Baron, as was to be expected, refused, and then they started murdering the pilgrims, one by one, one after another. Before the Baron yielded and released those from the dungeon, they let more than ten go down with the current. Exile, or even the block loomed over the Baron, some were vexed by the fact that he yielded only when so many had been killed; others were agitated, claiming that he had done a great evil: that it was a pre... precedent or what, and that those should have been shot down with crossbows together with the hostages, or be suddenly assaulted from boats, and he should not have go even an inch their way. At the court, the Baron maintained that he chose the lesser evil, for there were over a quarter of a hundred people on the ferry: women, brats...”
    “The Tridam ultimatum.” witcher whispered. “Renfri...”
    in the show it is just this line haha.
    [Geralt]Where's Renfri?
    [Renfri's goon]:She's at the tower with your little friend, Marilka. She gave us a message to pass on to you. You have to choose the lesser evil. It's an ultimatum.[...]
    [Renfri]: I will kill her. I will kill everyone here until Stregobor comes down.

  • @MrEagorath
    @MrEagorath Před 10 měsíci

    I just know bits and pieces from the books, I've never read them and due to my own issues with headaches from reading and straining my eyes, tend to prefer movies and series due to that.
    I coming from a "haven't played the games either, just seen bits and pieces here and there". still find the series increasingly bad.
    First season wasn't as bad, but they keep going for worse and worse adaptions from what I can understand.
    Like I know how Triss Merigold was changed in the series and I thought "huh, well that's to bad" and how Yennefer doesn't exactly fit her descriptions either..
    and if it is to challenge my terms of beauty? both of them look fine, but I am not interested in seeing "what a beauty the actor is" I want to see how the creator intended the characters to be in his saga (obviously inside the realm of posibility).
    The whole neuance of that "white is synomymous with beauty" is bullcrap.. hell Europe has for quite a few years now proven that pretty well with how pissed the feminist are at males going to the East to find love instead of searching for it with people from their own country.

  • @matthewrushmer238
    @matthewrushmer238 Před 10 měsíci +1

    It wasn't Yen though, this is talking about Francesca Findabair: "She was considered to be the most beautiful woman in the world by quite a margin, and had long golden hair and a grey-green dress decorated with lace, which rustled as she moved. Her blue, elven eyes were as inscrutable and hard as glass."
    Why not make her a person of colour then? By the writers/producers/casting logic....It's all so dumb.

    • @nirachien2274
      @nirachien2274 Před 10 měsíci +1

      The actress playing Francesca is a person of colour.

    • @matthewrushmer238
      @matthewrushmer238 Před 10 měsíci

      @@nirachien2274 Wow you're right, at least they're consistent! My bad.
      But.. did they take a woman of colour, give her blue eyes and a more white complexion?
      I'm not saying I have anything against casting people of colour at all, it's just very bizarre.

    • @vera3147
      @vera3147 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@matthewrushmer238 Yep, they casted a Jamaican actress to put her into a red wig and blue contact. Kappa.

  • @brunobotelho4502
    @brunobotelho4502 Před 10 měsíci

    4:30, they're wrong btw. Francesca Findabair is described as the most beatiful woman in the world, not Yennefer.

  • @malcolm4737
    @malcolm4737 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I mean, first season, which was as abysmal as the rest of the show, had like 8.7 raiting on IMDB and, judging by community's reaction, they are mostly upset that Cavil is leaving, and the show still has like 8.1 with almost 500k reviews - so yeah, I think Bagiński is correct in his assessment. It's just that the showrunners are so incompetent, they weren't able to satisfy even that audience.

  • @Min-Taro
    @Min-Taro Před 10 měsíci

    I dont mean to be offensive but your accent and tone are so funny😂 Sounds a lot like myself when Im complaining to my brothers

  • @AmViR1
    @AmViR1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Sadly the show was run by mentally ill people and their statements proved that many times over and over again.
    The writers on the other hand were basically childish because of their constant mocking to the source material.
    The Witcher is one of the worst shows i have ever seen and i wish if I could rewind time and un see it because i love the books and the games.
    They disrespected the main actor, the source material and now the viewers. What a joke.

  • @timmoman
    @timmoman Před 10 měsíci +6

    It’s funny (and sad) how the reactions to this series went from doubt to accepted and from there back to doubt and from there straight to failure

  • @genin69
    @genin69 Před 10 měsíci +15

    How on earth can u separate the art from the artist? they are intrinsically linked

    • @TaoScribble
      @TaoScribble Před 10 měsíci

      Easy: Hitler was an AWFUL person, but his paintings of buildings are REALLY pretty and I'd have zero problem with hanging one up in my house.

    • @ryanmadej6694
      @ryanmadej6694 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Kevin Spacey is a terrible person but I loved his performance in Seven so yeah separating art from Artist

    • @justateddybear951
      @justateddybear951 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@ryanmadej6694 It's easier when it comes to an actor because they're just doing lines. Much harder when the problem is the person writing those lines.

    • @ryanmadej6694
      @ryanmadej6694 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@justateddybear951 I have seen so many writers so problematic but also doing great in other things

    • @blase777
      @blase777 Před 10 měsíci +1

      literary critics and academia theorists have been doing this for the last century or so, so yeah, you can separate the art from the artist, it's a matter of persepective and methodology

  • @voidstarq
    @voidstarq Před 10 měsíci

    5:14 "I do not remember the last time the creatives behind a show were this petty and arrogant" -- The "Rings of Power" guys would like to put in a word.

  • @sofieruquiba1190
    @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci

    Here is a criticism of the show that sums up how i feel about The Witcher: Blood Origin , The problem that underscores the entire series is that there simply was not enough time for the characters or the plot to mature over four episodes. The Blood Origin ending does not feel earned because the plot is so badly underdeveloped and the characters follow woefully generic arcs.
    The Witcher: Blood Origin also seems to have rushed through its production, which constitutes another case of underdevelopment. The unnamed monster that wipes out the monarchies during the pilot episode is a particularly bad example of CGI. The CGI issue is present throughout the series.
    Blood Origin’s Characters Lack Depth , Another critical issue for The Witcher: Blood Origin is that the characters come off as one-dimensional stock fantasy characters. unoriginal characters still come down to poor writing.
    As such, these new characters require time on screen and relevant dialogue to set up their backstories and make the audience care about them. Instead, they are given vague and generic backstories that provide minimal depth and cause the show to feel unimportant, creating a massive problem for Netflix. For example, Éile, also known as The Lark, is given a very vague story about needing to redeem herself to her clan. However, it is never clear what exactly she needs redemption for. Moreover, The Lark's clan, as well as all the other clans, are never explained in any detail. Instead, they are simply thrust into the story to provide a paper-thin form of background. Without more information about the Lark's past, she comes off as just another fantasy warrior seeking some sort of ambiguous redemption. In fact, virtually all the characters in Blood Origin come off that way.
    Fjall Stoneheart, who ends up becoming the first version of a witcher, is given the same amount of minimal background. In the span of perhaps his first 5 minutes of screen time, Fjall goes from a quick battle scene, to sleeping with Princess Merwyn, to being expelled from his clan. His arc is accelerated so much that his story is unable to take on any individual meaning. Fjall is essential to the plot of Blood Origin, as The Lark is, however, neither of them is important on their own because of their lack of depth. The characters ultimately come off as placeholders in a loose framework of overused fantasy tropes.
    Blood Origin Lacks Originality , The aforementioned lack of depth, in terms of the show's characters, the plot, and the world building, causes The Witcher: Blood Origin to come off as painfully unoriginal. Blood Origin uses narration in an attempt to provide depth and make the show feel more important, but this is simply disastrous. Jaskier appears briefly as the narrator's audience, but that does little to make the show feel relevant, or make the narration any less corny. The mysterious narrator also seems to be used in self-defense of the show's lack of originality in a conversation with Jaskier, but its defense only serves to underscore its lack of creativity.
    The Witcher: Blood Origin ends up feeling like a collage of worn-out fantasy tropes driven by a skeletal plot. everything from the generic plot to boring character arcs, displays the show's singular underdevelopment in all aspects of writing and production

  • @vitaestbellum
    @vitaestbellum Před 10 měsíci

    Artist was the man who wrote Witcher Andrei whose last name I can't spell so I'm not even going to attempt.
    Witcher is ART THEFT.

  • @mimcduffee86
    @mimcduffee86 Před 10 měsíci

    One day, people will grow the fuck up and realize that a casting director has zero obligation to try and force an actor to stay after their contract expires just to please children who claim to be fans of Cavill (but obviously aren't or they would respect his choice to move on).

  • @emeros8631
    @emeros8631 Před 10 měsíci

    It's like an attempt at high fantasy but leader priced

  • @zeeshawnali4078
    @zeeshawnali4078 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Very insulting to the Yennefer actress to suggest that she's a diversity hire.

    • @Jiren261
      @Jiren261 Před 10 měsíci +9

      She is though, the casting director practically admitted it

    • @SchwaWasHere
      @SchwaWasHere Před 10 měsíci

      Come on now

  • @cartoonroc6873
    @cartoonroc6873 Před 10 měsíci

    I really think the guy talking about how Americans it talking about the Americans who work on the show but didn’t want to get it trouble. Just a theory.

  • @spacerider12
    @spacerider12 Před 10 měsíci

    Lets be honest here, the witcher books are not even complicated compared to something like a song of ice and fire. Also if anything the show made them seem more complicated with all unnecessary time jumps in the first season. Confused everybody for no reason since the jumps were so random.
    The witcher books are so extremely easy to adapt to tv its honestly funny. They literally start with episodic monster of the week type short stories that are twists on fables everyone already knows. Perfect to get people into the world of the witcher.
    Instead they do all this time jump nonsense non linear storytelling while smelling their own farts thinking they are the smartest people on earth

  • @garethbryant2183
    @garethbryant2183 Před 10 měsíci +1

    No more Henry no more witcher. His witcher made it bareable to watch.

  • @manfrommontreal
    @manfrommontreal Před 10 měsíci +1

    "Are you fvcking kidding me?"

  • @twinzzlers
    @twinzzlers Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love how he blames us Americans for this shows decline when the most outspoken critics are Eastern and Center Europeans

  • @sabsinoname
    @sabsinoname Před 10 měsíci +1

    Yennifer isn't the most beautiful women in the books... it's francesca findabair if i remember correctly. But the thaned scenes, all this body positivity mages... it's a joke. Fringilla vigo 🤦🏻‍♀️ she will become geralds love interest....sorry, but no! And the story is even worse. henry cavill did absolutely right to jump of the sinking ship. I hate what they did to my beloved witcher franchise. Und i think they will mess up the next game to! 😔

  • @dariusluknar4810
    @dariusluknar4810 Před 10 měsíci +1

    At this point, everything surrounding this show almost feels like a parody. Did they try to fail this show as much as possible?

  • @guzmancharles7
    @guzmancharles7 Před 10 měsíci

    Netflix strategy if have a show for a few years and if the show is successful they rather CXL it than give the actors more money. That’s the reason I stop watching Netflix shows.

  • @MizGizma
    @MizGizma Před 10 měsíci

    The actors are fantastic. The sets and costuming beautiful. The original books are best sellers. So the only thing left ... the writers who adapted the books. They and only they are responsible for failures.

  • @ivanstepanovic1327
    @ivanstepanovic1327 Před 10 měsíci

    I'd say the showrunners failed all of those "challenges" the themselves mentioned...

  • @osiria_turtle
    @osiria_turtle Před 10 měsíci

    100% childishness when it comes to executives. it just trickles down

  • @thevikingsock8527
    @thevikingsock8527 Před 10 měsíci

    Haha the punch against muricans was actually funny

  • @tedlogan4867
    @tedlogan4867 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Childishness sums up most westerners under the age of 45 or so.

  • @Siegbert85
    @Siegbert85 Před 10 měsíci

    I haven't even noticed that Yennefer's actress was a "person of color". I just noticed that she looks like a child next to Henry Cavill and that they have no chemistry to speak of.

  • @sofieruquiba1190
    @sofieruquiba1190 Před 10 měsíci

    season 3 character arcs & characterization of the Witcher is really bad. its a sad waste of time. they turn GERELT into a side character in his own show. his action scene are good but the show barely focuses on him , which really a shame because Gerelt is a captivating character as always. i thought the writers might have concentrated on his character more but as usual the Witcher writers are clueless. they turn Radovid into an annoying LEX LUTHER type of character from Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. the writers turn Emhyr var Emreis, The White Flame Dancing on the Barrows of his Enemies into an incredibly bland boring character. his dialog is the worst. its completely takes you out of the show. Radovid & Emhyr are two of greatest characters & antagonists in The Witcher franchise , [ books , games & anything else ] , so it's really stinks that these characters suck so bad in the show.
    if you know anything about BLOOD ORIGIN , then you know that Eredin Bréacc Glas the King of the Wild Hunt is kind of a weakling & really non-threatening so that a waste of an antagonist / villain so i don't have any hope of The Witcher tv show being a really cringe but entertaining tv show , but The Witcher tv show its just awful , i don't know how the writers of the show made Thanedd Coup so dull. uninteresting. boring. tedious. tiresome. they tried to make this entire season into GAME OF THRONE Lite , it barely resembles Thanedd Coup. As for YENNEFER , she failed to apologize in any meaningful & significance way to GERALT or Cirilla for releasing discount baba Yaga , taking CIRI to Cintra to be possessed , YENNEFER doesn't show any guilt for the Witchers who died in KAER MORHEN or anything. YENNEFER does try to shallowly & half-heartedly apologize to GERALT for maybe a couple minutes in one episode if you add the total up but it lacks substance & any type of conviction at all. As for YENNEFER apologizing to CIRI for taking advantage of her trust & getting her possessed , they have a one minute conversation about it. I'm honestly not sure because it went by so fast that I can't even say that's what the conversation was about. Then the writers just hand wave the situation & nobody brings it up again period. As for YENNEFER actions in relation to the plot season 3 , it was established in almost the whole franchise that YENNEFER doesn't care for politics [ in the games YENNEFER only cares in relation to saving other people, in the books YENNEFER is not that good at politics & you get the gist that among the mages of the north Philippa Eilhart & Vilgefortz are excellent at politics by comparison to YENNEFER & she only cares in relation to her magic school or saving someone , even in season one of the show's YENNEFER leaves politics behind her early. So because season 3 focuses on a GAME OF THRONE LITE version of Thanedd Coup YENNEFER character really suffered from the bad writing especially after her character assassination characterization of season 2. Yennefer’s actions in The Witcher season 2 make some of her best moments in season 3 feel unearned and very hard to believe. a montage isn’t enough to make viewers fully buy that Geralt, Ciri, and Yennefer are a family. Tissaia tells Yennefer “You finally became a mother”, which could have been a truly heartwarming moment in the series had Yennefer not done what she did in season 2 and had season 3 not rushed through the fixing and building of her bond with Ciri. “Yennefer, actor Anya Chalotra is able to play her as a sorceress who has come into her own. She's not the unlikable, somewhat whiny character from Season 2. She's confident, powerful, and more in line with how Yennefer of Vengerberg is supposed to be. The only issue is that there is too little supporting it. viewers only get a short montage and a couple of other scenes before Yennefer gets to this stage. The rest of the show assumes that's enough for her character to be compelling. but it's really not. YENNEFER costumes are terrible in season 3. its laughable. Philippa Eilhart & Dijkstra were underutilized & don't live up to their characters at all. Vilgefortz is decent but he's going to be the most unsurprising surprise villain ever because the writers have been dropping really unsubtle hints since season one. Vilgefortz killing the mage in season 1 & interrogating Tisseia about CIRI in season 2 gave the surprise away.
    as for CIRILLA , she's good but she's only half as endearing , charming , engaging & cool as her counterparts in the books & games. I like her a lot & her relationship with GERALT is nice , even if I consider it diminished by all the wasted potential opportunities of season 1 & 2. The writers do this really annoying thing with her character where they write themselves into a corner so CIRI will constantly get caught by any & everyone after her , even after GERALT & YENNEFER tell her constantly & repeatedly to be careful & stay safe. It gets irritating after a while. CIRI trains with magic & different ways of fighting for a bit but its so so to me because she gets interrupted repeatedly so I don't think of her as a great fighter. A good one but not outstanding. A problem with her character is that the writers are trying to portray her as a great physical fighter instead of a person who uses agility , flexibility, magic swordsmanship to kick ass & Freya Allen looks thin & tall , in other words not a strong physical fighter. The other critique I have about CIRI is that in season 3 she's just there , she doesn't really do anything plot wise , CIRI is like the Infinity Stones in Avengers Infinity War an important element of the plot but she's inertia in her actions in the show.
    Let's say these 5 episodes have more books stuff than the previous season, but still not enough to call it an adaptation. I'm not interested in watching more of the Swicher. I wouldn't mind if they actually made improvements on the source material but all the so called improvements were even worse than fanfiction. So I'm not interested in Lauren's terrible writing & directing. People watching Season 3 of the Swicher will just encourage these Netflix Morons to produce more of this trash. I'm not watching the CIRI & YENNEFER show.
    So if you haven't seen it yet , save yourself from the suffering , if you have seen it. tell me what you think

  • @RemnTheteth
    @RemnTheteth Před 10 měsíci

    This show is a gold mine, and the show runners are too stupid to figure it out. Condescending and patronizing. They're adapting a story that was, apparently, too complicated for American audiences, that's why they games based on the books sold millions of copies, here.
    Any deflection here is just a cop out for writing trash, wanting to write their stories and not the Witcher, and constantly overestimating their abilities.

  • @mtlbstrd
    @mtlbstrd Před 10 měsíci

    Listen, my first exposure to the world of The Witcher, was the games, not the books (which I intend to read once I finish what’s on my list ahead of them). Even so, I’m STILL disappointed in the Netflix series. Cavill is great, but for him to be a side story, or a prop, for the women in the story, is completely & utterly disappointing. The “writers” must all be 3rd wave feminists and/or soy boy simps, to “create” the garbage they are, and think it’s good. They’ve focused SO much on diversity, in an uneven heavy-handed way, that they have (literally!) lost the plot.
    Sadly, we’re all left to commiserate about what might have been; and while Liam Hemsworth is a decent actor, he’s no Henry Cavill, so it’s going to worse…

  • @DragonGoddess18
    @DragonGoddess18 Před 10 měsíci

    What a shame, I actually wanted to watch Henry Cavill in this show
    However considering what you said here, I...think it's best I don't give it any attention

  • @colonelturmeric558
    @colonelturmeric558 Před 10 měsíci

    Im not very familiar with the witcher, just saw the show but things stuck out to me. Why does a polish fantasy world have gay jaskier? Poland is very conservative last i checked. Is fringilla black in the books/games? Are the elves all multiracial? Is geralt really just an idiot saved by women?

  • @Jathulhu
    @Jathulhu Před 10 měsíci

    About now the writers and showrunners are just playing the blame game for declining numbers and doing anything except take accountability and realise "Maybe we DID fuck up and people just don't like our writing? No, no, that's surely can't be the case, we're amazing." I'm all for the diversity and casting, for me it's the poor writing, needless changes and filler content being substandard.

  • @fantasywind3923
    @fantasywind3923 Před 10 měsíci

    Correction mrs Hissirch :) it wasn't Yennefer IT WAS FRANCESCA FINDABAIR who was the MOST BEAUTIFUL women in the world :) hehehe.
    "Behind the couple, walked an attractive woman with very long, dark golden hair, and a grey-green dress decorated with lace, which rustled as she moved. 'Francesca Findabair, also called Enid an Gleanna, the Daisy of the Valleys. Don't goggle, Witcher. She is widely considered to be the most beautiful woman in the world.' 'Is she a member of the chapter?' he whispered in astonishment. 'She looks very young. Is that also thanks to magical elixirs?' 'Not in her case. Francesca is a pure blooded elf.' (...)"
    ...
    “Francesca Findabair, known as Enid an Gleanna, once a sorceress and presently the Queen of Aen Seidhe, the Free Elves, raised her head. Tears glistened in her beautiful blue eyes.” So I guess think of Margot Robbie in Wolf of Wallstreet, at her hottest :) that would be probably approximation of Francesca Findabair most beautiful woman in the world :).

  • @mysteriousdoge1298
    @mysteriousdoge1298 Před 10 měsíci

    I like how you used extremele toxic & children as synonims in one sentence