Open World: Too Good To Be True? New Details from Paralives
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Paralives promises an open world- but how beneficial and immersive will that world really be? Here are the new details.
I cover paralives character creator and news as well as sims reviews, updates and more.
Frequently Asked Questions
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Is Paralives going to be free?
No. It will cost the equivalent of a typical life simulation game.
Is there a release date for Paralives?
Paralives is in Pre-Alpha with no release date yet.
Will Paralives support mods?
Yes. You may use mods in Paralives and will have support via the Steam workshop.
Where can I download Paralives?
Upon launch, Paralives will be released and available for download on Steam.
Is Paralives open world?
Yes. Paralives is an upcoming open world simulation game.
Can I run Paralives?
Paralives will be available for Mac and PC. It will not be available for console or mobile platforms.
Minimum Specs:
Memory: 4 GB
Graphics Card: ATI FireGL T2-128
CPU: Intel Core i3-530
File Size: 10 GB
OS: Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10
Will Paralives have multiplayer?
No. Paralives will be a single player game.
Are Sims and Paralives similar?
Both Sims and Paralives are in the life simulation game category. It's been called a Sims competitor but it's too early to tell the end result.
What are the confirmed features for Paralives? (from Paralives official website)
An open world small town, Advanced character editor named Paramaker (PAM), Color wheel for hair, skin, eyes and clothes, Advanced personalities and AI for the Parafolks, Dogs, cats and horse Cars, bikes and boats, Weather effects and seasons, A simple gibberish language, One town at launch but more worlds and a world creation tool will come later after the initial release, Grid less construction, Snapping and optional grid to help align stuff, Curved and straight walls of any precise length, Resizable, stackable and flippable furniture, Boat houses that you can build, Color wheel, pre made swatches and pattern customization, Pre made houses as well as empty resizable lots, Terrain tools
Will Paralives have occults?
Paralives will not have occults in the base game, but there may be a dlc with occults.
Will Paralives have mental illness and disabilities?
The team has brainstormed some disabilities representation, but nothing is confirmed.
Chapters
0:00 Paralives Open World Has Limits
0:55 Time and Days
1:20 Rotational Gameplay?
2:12 Commercial Lots
3:12 Decorating & Holidays
3:54 Weather Impact
4:15 Confirmed Features - Hry
Sorry for mispeaking about "rotational gameplay" I use the term differently in this video- rotational within a household.
Chapters
0:00 Paralives Open World Has Limits
0:55 Time and Days
1:20 Rotational Gameplay?
2:12 Commercial Lots
3:12 Decorating & Holidays
3:54 Weather Impact
4:15 Confirmed Features
rotational camera: around the world around the world around the world around the world
im sorry i have that song stuck in my head
They said from early on that it'd only be one world for the launch and that world creation would come later. I'm perfectly happy with that as it means they can put more attention on other features. All I hope for is the ability to customise that one world (excluding landscaping) by being able to place trees and decorative objects in the world outside of lots. They've shown that custom lots is a thing, so that already puts it above that 'other game' franchise.
yeah! and besides, after the release they can always go back and add more worlds! they already confirmed they would! after the core gameplay is done being implemented it will be super easy to add to it
Yeah me too! And I'd be cool with be able to edit the world some, fine by me. I'm excited to have an open world again :)
yeah exactly. I think they're doing this development the right way. First you get the core features solidly worked out. After that you can make a bunch of different worlds and extra stuff. It would be dumb to do it the other way around, aka, releasing a buggy mess of a game but it has like 100 different worlds and buildings but none of the features work right
I really hope that we can travel to different worlds via airplane, boat and long drive.. it would be so nice to have that detail
I’m happy with their list of planned release features. People always forget how barren the Sims games are on launch, but having open world, seasons, and pets at launch is already leagues better.
I’m also happy that there’ll be autonomy in family members, as I love to play one Sim and not manage the others all the time.
Yes, there's already quite a bit offered in the plans for the base game! I'd be fine if it didn't have anything beyond that, and good AI
I hope there will be options for autonomy or full control of family members.
You have to remember it’s unlikely that paralives will get much in the way of packs/updates or expansions. So it’s important they make the game as good as they can.
@@jaybee4288 from what I understand, Alex has talked about both free updates and dlc, leaning more heavily on the free updates.
It makes sense that they will probably be capable of doing this since they are making money via patreon during development AND will get the money from sales. There will be less costs from development that are dependant on the success of the release to recoup which can be put into future development.
I don’t really care how large or small the open world/neighborhood are as long as it’s actually interactive and purposeful. Like in sims 4, there’s these huge spaces of unbuildable areas with prop dressings that the sims can’t do anything with. An open neighborhood could easily be more dynamic with just a group of residential lots, a nice park/community space and a strip mall style building with rabbit holes to different businesses.
Fair point; I will tell you, however, that there definitely will be rabbit holes. That said, I think we will have more freedom in editing the world
@@SimmerErin at least some of the rabbitholes might be opened up sometime in the future... at least for the important things like bars/clubs/restaurants ect... so there is that at least.
I’m interested in the ability to only control a Para of your choosing within a household. Something I’ve always wanted from the sims.
I'd never thought much about it, but I definitely see why it could be appealing!
Yeah, I actually imagine my Paras moving in with townies and sharing a house after finishing Uni (or even during Uni), just like a lot of people do (in Australia at least), just like I did when I was young. I'm also hoping that money will be much better handled than in the Sims games - that they aren't irretrieveably millionaires in after a week. I want my Sims to be more natural, start off their working lives broke like most normal people do. And if NPCs have personalities and autonomy and lives of their own, that would be fun to play.
I would actually love that.... its mostly what i did in the sims anyways... manage 1 sim and let the others just do whatever they want but having a system to make it official so i dont have to see the others needs ect would be cool.
You can do this on the sims 3 with the DSI
@@nanc2236 What’s that?
I’m totally fine with them adding things as time goes by. What matters to me is that the core gameplay is fun and that the Para’s are as in depth as they say they’ll be. I’m fine with some things being rabbit holes. It might actually be a good thing to have that option, maybe even give you the option to go along or just send them there.
Same exactly! I don't need tons of bells and whistles, and I actually think rabbit holes can be quite helpful in balance
I think a crucial aspect will be how immersive the open world is, how real it feels to us as players.....and that will also depend on how deep the personalities of the Para's will be- how individualistic and unique they feel , that would really breathe life into the open world format of the game. As long as the core foundation of the game is solid, it wouldn't matter if there are updates later because the base product feels worthwhile in itself.
Overall im really excited and optimistic for this game, it feels like it will be what i always wanted from a sims game
Very well said 🙂. A world can have tons of features and not feel lively, and a world can have only some features but feel immersive if there are unique personalities! Absolutely agree
I did some recommended fixes to the Sims 3, downloaded the Smooth Patch and took out all NRaas mods. Yesterday I played on Greymont Bay and Plymouth Isle, two very big worlds with many details to every single unique house and I had no lag for around 6 hours of playing. Open World with a lot of features and details is possible according to my experience. As a matter of fact I experience more lag in TS4 with the closed world, it's all in the coding...
that's great! I honestly have had less lag issues in 3 overall vs the course of sims 4. A lot of it comes down to optimization & coding and the engine's capabilities; that said lag is very complex, and we also have to keep in mind the extent of dlc and the age of sims 4 (oddly I now have very little lag
Oh boats! In any case, Paralives is starting to look really cute. I like that the laid back vibes the games gives are also reflected in some of the animations, like sitting on the counter or under a tree or walking around barefoot. Not really what this was about ^^ thank you for covering it nevertheless, Erin. I have no open world thoughts as the term can mean so much. Personally I really liked the opener world of Sim's Werewolves GP, it had a nice level of things going on. I think I am ok with not being able to look into npc's homes but having one family member do last minute shopping while another is setting the table without any loading screens would be nice.
I like the laid back vibes too.. I think there's a whimsical feel as a whole
Werewolves was a pretty solid pack, agreed! Felt a bit more lively
I think this game looks pretty good I'm excited to see how it turns out 😍
me too
It should be interesting to see what open world will be like by the time the early access releases. They can always add to it, that is the main thing I hope they realize, as well as the players realize.
Yep! I think it's just fine to add some things in updates
@@SimmerErin I agree. It will be interesting to see what the game will included X amount of years after the release compared to the beginning. Just like it is with Sims 4.
@@jmelovesGod I feel as long as they have a solid foundation for paralives, it will work out well to have updates later. The core mechanics have to be strong though, like the sims actually having a personality , consequences etc .
Building on a shaky foundation, like in the case of sims 4, is one of the reasons that game still feels unfinished years later.
@@katehigen7018 Yeah I know, and in the Sims team's defense, they have done an ok job with what they have had to deal with because of having to use the initial idea's engine and stuff. I'm fine with closed worlds myself, I would prefer semi-open worlds, each neighborhood being open world. That way it wouldn't be as hard on the game engine and stuff, but still feel like you are loading into a world far less than in Sims 4. I think they will be able to do that in paralives and Sims 5 or whatever the next sims game is called. I'm excited and interested to see what happens in Sims 4, Paralives and the next Sims game, should be a fun next few years or so.
@@jmelovesGod When the Sims 4 came out with bare minimum, it's not okay and there were missing features. I cannot accept the Sims defence for doing okay job, it was step backward from previous Sims game. I hope the Sims team learnt this lesson and will improve on next generation. Anyway I'm more excited about Paralives, it has lots of potential.
It will be interesting to see the size of their starter open world. And if it will require a move if they go to another world (where they lose their contact with the original one, like in TS3 when you didn't go on vacation but moved to Monte Vista.) If you can use other "worlds" as extensions of the original one (like we can do with TS4 where you can move between "worlds" and not lose your connections, and can go to school in one "world" while living in another), then it would be ideal. But it all boils down to how it actually works once we get the game. (I love speculation, but you can only go so far with it.)
I hope it can be move to another world for a vacation or new home, Sims don't lose friend Sims which can be keep in touch by mobile or visit
Yeah, people have asked how it will work, moving to other worlds etc. It's not known yet; granted, sims 3 was created over a decade ago, and techn. ha advanced; not sure
I don’t mind rabbit holes lots, as long as Paras get something (like a mood buff or item) out of those locations.
Career locations and schools probably work better as non-active lots anyway. Though I see no issue with semi-active careers and lots, if executed well.
agreed. I don't really have any desire for active school. I am not a huge person for active careers- so I'm not going to stress about not having them in the bg
Edit: stay at home jobs (like freelance) and semi active components if possible for them are good for variety, yes. It's a nice balance too
Agreed if you see the sims 4 highschool and university. It just waste a time to be played anyway. Treat the school/work like event and we need to complete missions for it seems repetitive and waste of time. I rather having multiple what if event when waiting our characters done a job/schools that can result moodlets, nee friends/enemy, lover, items or new hobby.
I'm glad you added the confirmed features at the end of the video for a reminder! I'm excited for the create a world tool. When I think rotational gameplay, I think of multiple households, not different characters in the same house. I REALLY want to control everyone in my own household. I also really care about being able to turn aging on and off for other households. I love that Sims 4 has "my households" and "other households." I have different settings for different save files. I really hope Paralives has something similar. I'm not saying it would be a deal-breaker if they didn't have that, but it could be
I agree, I generally think of it as multiple households- I expected them to discuss that, but didn't edit out my wording after I read.
Rotating households gameplay is great idea, I have learnt from Pleasantsims videos. I hope there will be option for autonomy or full control of family members and turn on or off aging.
To be honest I would be happy with open neighborhoods but open worlds is a double plus in my book ty for the updates love the honesty of ur content
Thanks :) Yes I too am fine with open neighborhoods too! Just don't want a 100 percent closed world
That...is not what "rotational gameplay" is. Rotational gameplay in Sims means you're playing multiple households on rotation. It's actually my preferred way of playing but I'm not holding my breath for it being in Paralives.
I understand. I thought they were going to talk about rotational gameplay & didn't edit it out, apologies
I've always looked at Paralives with i believe realistic expectations. I know they are probably not gonna be able to put everything i want into the game or maybe they'll do it later after the game is released. regardless i'm okay with that fact, as long as the game is meaningful and the gameplay is too I will be happy. To be honest I trust the Paralives team and their outlook on how the game will be, I'm even a patreon of theirs (for 3 years? i don't remember) and i don't check in on their updates every friday i checked theirs once a month maybe. They have proven again and again to me they know what they are doing with their sneak peaks on youtube & twitter of different features, They always go above & beyond my expectations. So what im trying to say is if they don't put a feature in i'm not gonna be angry with them, i feel like they would have a reason why they couldn't or it could be just because they cant, they are still a small indie team. But that's ok, I don't expect perfection i just am so excited to be able to play it one day and experience it however it comes out and however long it takes to come out. I'm invested in this game for the long haul.
Good comment :) I think if anything, their willingness to not over promise is really good. They can go above expectations is wanted but don't set themselves up for a bad situation; the bg features in of itself 'feel' ambitious to me, but not impossible, espec. with things like less demanding graphics & careful coding. They seem to be going at a good pace, but not rushing
I know I'm thinking far ahead into the future, but I hope sometime after they release the base game they will have an expansion with fantasy elements. I always liked mermaids, witches/warlocks, and vampires in the Sims. I think Paralives can make it even better.
They have expressed interest in fantasy/ occult dlc :) they hope to do so- not known yet when or what
@@SimmerErin Oh, I didn't know that! I'm glad. :)
@@luizabianco I'm pretty sure Paralives will make fantasy elements separate as a DLC for those who want it. I agree that the Sims has been lacking in their DLCs and overall it just feels lazy coming from a company as big as EA. When you put all their DLCs together you're paying around $600 when they could of just put, for example, their pet DLCs into one DLC. But no, they have to make as much money as they can off of consumers.
I am glad they are starting with just one world. It looks like they are working on a lot of details but not being all over the place with trying to put everything into the game at launch. Uuuh, I am so looking forward to the release! :D
Agreed. I think it's wise of them to start with one world. I think it'll be based on somewhere near their location
Less features at launch is okay for me as long as all of them are working fine and smart. We've seen too many great concepts with poor implementations and we definitely don't want any of that no more.
I'm so excited for 1:35, it would be such a breath of fresh air to only control and play as a member of the whole households and everyone else will be influenced by and reacting to our actions. It's like a mixture/crossover of RPG & Simulation! But of course not everyone wants that kind of gameplay and rather prefers micromanagement, so a toggle for that would probably be better.
True! Sometimes less is more
It is a neat idea, potentially. I have no idea how complex it is? But I could see why some would like that
I'm gonna guess right here that they'll provide toggles for all sorts of autonomy and control options. They are adding a lot of settings in their modding system, which sounds like it'll be similar to the MC Command Centre mod for The Sims, only it'll be inbuilt into the game for everyone to access. Most good recent games add play options these days, anyway. They might just simply add a little control/automate toggle option in the Paramaker. That would solve a lot of things easily, including making our own townies and toggling control and automate off at our leisure.
I'm liking your videos before even adds finished
Thanks so much💗🙂
@@SimmerErin no thank you for your content 💝
Simmer Erin has the best “news” coverage. It’s always done giving some research and does come off as a Sims bashing. Just giving facts as facts.
Thank you; I'm really happy you enjoy my content. It may not always be super exciting but I want to be fair as possible
I just love the art style! 😍
Let's wait for the game. I hope it lives up to what they are telling us. I don't remember if I responded yesterday to it.
I think they are trying to be reasonable for their expectations so far, and pushing back on ideas that may be too ambitious so that's good
I think some goals + plenty to do the balance they should try to achieve. I abandoned my completionist Sims save because there wasn't anything to do anymore (the day to day grind was becoming repetitive by the second generation).
yes, balance is good, as well as options. The challenging thing about a simulator is taking into account how it can also be played differently by different people
@@SimmerErin normally simulation games have goals such as unlocking stuff. In sandbox people can make their own ambitious goals. Life Sims are tricky. They can put in special unlockables, or end of life scenario conditions.
Thanks once again for your updates Erin, this is the only game I'm waiting for right now!
Having open 'districts' and then further districts / towns released later seems like the best solution.
The quality of the AI of other family members, and neighbours is one of the most important features for me, I want the para to exist in a world which feels alive, and where I can steer and also just let things happen.
I have no idea how the developers will accomodate the spread of requirements between the kind of players who want to control every detail, and those who would prefer to go with the flow.
I might be wrong, but from everything I've read over the last few years, I get the impression they're gonna implement a lot of settings for toggling a lot of the various control options. They're certainly providing modders with lots to play with.
@@fransmith3255 That's good to hear, having those options built in would be really great.
Thanks for watching :)
ah, so expanding upon the world vs new ones?
I agree- the AI is most important for me! Arguably the most complex and challenging too
Sometimes simple is better!!
One of the many reasons the sims 4 faild at launch was bc the emotions system was soo complex. It took up developement time and they couldn't flesh out other features. Artist, creators alike, sometimes simple is better.
Cars and boats in the base game what a dream.
Oddly I am looking forward to boats more than cars lol
Not to mention pets and seasons! 🥺
I'm fine with rabbit holes, though I wonder how itll be implemented. Will they simply disappear like they do in ts2/ts3 or will they be in the form of pre-rendered shell buildings like in the ts3? My favorite way to do it in ts3 is with rabbit hole rugs, since it allows you to create the atmosphere of the rabbit hole location without having to worry about actually managing it.
not sure, but I did like how 3 did it
This makes me want to move forward with trying to make my own life simulator -- as many misgiving as I have about pulling it off. As excited as I am about Paralives and as eager as I am to try it out when it launches, in many ways it does seem to take things in a different direction than I would. But really that is what the "dollhouse life simulator" (or what I often just call simslikes) needs is not a "Sims killer," not the replacement of one game to rule them all with another game to rule them all, but rather several available and well know games with different approaches that best fit different playstyles.
Curious. What direction would you take it if you created a life sim?
What sort of direction or changes do you think is needed
@@SimmerErin I'm not sure Paralives needs to change its core direction -- it seems like its going to be a game that knows what it wants to be. Several ideas doing a different take on the core idea would be a good thing.
Where there is a difference it seems, from descriptions and the name itself that is trying to be a game that makes playing a para an immersive and in depth experience -- almost like living a side life in an immersive open world. In contrast my own ideas are more about how to do long-running rotational play with a somewhat realistic simulation.
Sort-of my impression so far:
The Sims 4: Creative outlet to tell stories you make up
Paralives: Immersive roleplaying or everyday life (???)
My Idea: More a semi-strategic god-game
At this point though all I have is the beginning of a prototype for generic simulation game camera controls and several pages of notes on a possible personality system -- not even a name or the confidence to invest too much time.
I am also concerned out some things I didn't think about until recently trying to play The Sims 3 rotationally. Some things just don't work with unplayed sims in an open world where time is always running everywhere. Notably, self-employed sims don't work when uncontrolled, artists only paint and farmers only farm without a player to tell them too. How to solve that is also not completely clear.
TBH i didnt mind the small loaded areas for sims, BUT I wish they made it so different neighbourhoods in each world loaded together. like all the houses or venus in one neighbourhood was loaded and you could walk to the surrounding places without hitting a loading screen. i feel that would of been a way better combo of both open and loading screens. It would allow u to see your neighbours in their house in front doing activities our having a cook out in their backyard, see the club down the street or restaurant busy. be able to walk down the street to the store or park. I think that would of been amazing. OR this is stretching it, making every world they release like just sulani all open and a loading screen if u go to a world like strangerville, etc.
so more like a semi open world?
yes, that seems to be a popular opinion in the sims community. I like open world, but wouldn't mind that either
@@SimmerErin yeah i would love an open world, but i also know semi would be more exclusive for people that have lower end pc, i think it would be the perfect compromise
Inclusive**
I seriously prefer open neighborhoods but as long as it runs fine and isn't empty (sims 3 i am looking at you) then it's ok
I'm open to either
Sims 3 was developed over a decade ago & had more demanding graphics, so it's a difficult comparison
I would like the option toggle single-parra mode in the household. Gives gameplay more versatility and simulation to real life. But def not necessary because the other paras are likely to be autonomous, I'm sure.
I don’t mind only getting one world at launch as long as it’s not super small.
same, I don't mind at all
One world that can be edited is all I ask and they have shown lot size resizing so there's at least something confirmed. I'm glad they are pushing back a bit and making it clear some things will not be base game much better than Sims 4 strategy telling us we could get cars only to tell us a month or so before release no you will not be getting cars.
yeah- I think as the project is taking more shape, they are becoming more clear and confident too
I hope they do cars and boats right and more then one para can use them eg 4 paras per car.
Very exited for this game. All they have confirmed sounds awesome!
the confirmed features do sound promising for sure
It’s an interesting idea, but I’m not quite sure how I would enjoy only controlling only one household member. I’ll just have to wait and see!
Yes! I don't know how I feel about that, but I'm definitely excited to see what they come up with
I'm not sure about it either, but he did say "could," so hopefully that means we have an option to play one Para or the whole family. They seem to really love having different options and setting choices so hopefully they'll make it into the final game.
@@CeramicShenanigans that would be cool if we have different options!! So everyone could try different ways of playing the game and choose what they enjoy doing the most ☺️
Open world would be so cool! I used to make my own custom ones for sims 3.
yep, open world is confirmed for this game. Create a world sounds like a feature they do want to add, after the launch at some point
I just hope the animation and gameplay will be smooth. I know this is test footage. But I just enjoy smooth and sleek gameplay u know.
Just like opening a new iPhone. They make the box very smooth when opening it.
[I never had an iPhone but I know what thats like].
Kinda makes me sound crazy looking back at this comment.
Interesting you should say that! I am working on a video talking about those issues. The bottom line: I'm hopefully it will be
The open world concept is always something I'm not really sure about, but I think I'll still give it an oportunity and see how it ends up being in Paralives.
fair enough! open world has a lot of possibilities- but it also can be challenging to implement well
Last time I heard about this game was 2 years ago.. thinking ots probably released already only to find out they still don't even have a released date... I'll believe it when I see the released.
Healthy skepticism is fine; I will say many AAA games take 5-8 years to make. 2 years ago this was a solo project, now they have a team of around 10
i am glad they adding seasons in base game. I hated in sims had to buy it . Will I able turn off ageing
I'm not sure about aging yet; I hope so- I hope that there are a few settings too
A SCREAM CAME OUT WHEN I SAW THE LOT DRAWING!! ~
Oh yeah paralives has many really neat features, honestly
I wonder if there will be occults 🤔
Not in the base game. DLC, they have talked about
For me, i am maybe slightly biased to gameplay additions that feel rewarding without feeling its bloating the game, the slower time will definitely be something ill REALLY enjoy. As Sims was a bit fast paced in normal time. But what i would want to see, not just Job progression like positions. But more so advancements through a hobby system. For instance, taking a Sims and my own real-life example. Going from a White belt to a Black belt in any martial art, at a reasonable pace. With the para's skills at it taken into account. Other than that, more family interactions maybe even a bit of a memory system.
Very interesting ideas! I'll keep my eyes out if they have future mentions of hobbies. Memory system is always a plus- I think it adds meaning and dimension
@@SimmerErin It never hurts. Plus, it helps some people live out their fantasies, whenever they may be fictional or factual. While I'll admit, having to see a Para use either crutches or a wheelchair would always add depth, to roleplaying. As both me and my older brother are like that, since birth. It's not as important to the overall game.
I would take open neighborhoods the way they are in the Sims 4 tbh, if the open world runs similarly to Sims 3. Loading screens > lag. I’m just glad seasons and pets are in for base game.
Sims 4 is a closed world; open neighborhood would be in between. I don't personally have lag in 3, but regardless, a lot comes down to coding & optimization. Another consideration is that the graphics here are far less demanding and of course technology has evolved since 2008/2009
I'm not mad that they're being cagey. They need to be conservative with what they say at this point. It's a small team, there's only so much they can do at launch and it needs to be solid.
Yes they do. Honestly, it increases my confidence in the project
@@SimmerErin Same here. At this point, they've got the community input and it's clear development of live mode is in full swing. Our job is to wait and keep an open mind.
Honestly as long as it has an open world and a color wheel I will be happy. Oh and cars and bikes. I still can’t play sims 4 without getting bored out of my mind
Yep, all of those features are set to be launched in the bg
When it comes to worlds, I think this is super reasonable. Base game has 1 or 2 worlds. More would be added in updates and expansions. And I think the world builder tool is a perfect example of a reasonable life sim expansion pack: some will love it and others won’t find it necessary.
base game will have just one world but I'm cool with that too, especially as it seems fairly customizable
World creation tool? Oooo....Sims 2 was the only one in the Sims franchise which really had one. My favorite n'hoods were always those of my own creation.
They are indeed inspired by sims 2 as a whole. Yes, I think it will be fun :) It's great sims 3 had one too, but Sims 2's was very easy to use
I wonder how big the world will be if its open.what if the world is the size of windenburg,would that be big enough.it sounds good on paper.but the more they keep adding the longer this will keep taking and its already on like year 7 if development and will have like 4 more?idk.you mention rabbit holes,the sims community hates rabbit holes.in the future after release...if its ever finished
Good questions. I am not sure. It looks like we may be able to do some world editing and so that would be helpful. It does sound like they want to add more worlds after.
After listening to this, one feature that I’d really like to see is the ability to be able to toggle off just about any gameplay feature.
Sims, Paralives, etc, it would just be so nice to have. It would be nice if it also included the ability to toggle things off for specific sims/paras and also adjust the frequency of certain actions.
It could be used to toggle off features certain players don’t want- annoyances like playing on the phone too much, potential triggers for a player, things that the player doesn’t feel like is in character for a specific sim/para or plays a role in their backstory.
Using sims for the sake of comparison since occults aren’t confirmed yet for Paralives, toggles could turn that kind of thing off. So people who want werewolves without the werewolves and so on, it’s nice to have!
Certain immersion features like acne or periods that not everyone wants to deal with in their gameplay. Or content that parents may want to leave off for their younger kids that might be slightly violent or racy.
Like just give me a million options to toggle things on/off, it would be so useful!!
It's a good concept in theory- helpful for player choice and even performance. I am not sure, coding wise, how complex that is
@@SimmerErin Idk about every little feature, but at least regarding the sims modders do it all the time (both with features of the official game and with aspects of their own mods). I’m sure there are at least a few things that are integral enough to the game that it has to stay on, but for the most part it shouldn’t be too big a deal.
It will be free play?
No. It will cost money to play the base game- which I see as a plus because there won't be microtransactions
I think we need to be patient and realistic of how long it'll take to have all the cool features.
I mean, a multimillionaire company like EA doesn't have real babies in Sims 4 even 10 years AFTER release! And many key features like festivities, seasons, etc., were only released years after (with additional charge to players).
yes patience is key!
Even if they just made it so that an an hour is 2 minutes instead of 1 minute that would change a lot lol Its just so annoying when it takes a whole sim hour to walk across a house
When you put it like that, timing is a bit silly
My comment has nothing to do with this but...
I hope that if theres a Pet DLC it includes stoats, stoats are awesome :)
What are stoats?
@@SimmerErin Stoats are like a weasels. i guess the only difference between them are their tails because they look he same lol
@@rarkrk2681 OH! I had no idea! People have them as pets? So interesting
It is what I think. It's gonna be cool
I think so! Lots of promise
that first suggestion about only running like a child in a family and the rest of them npc makes me think its more relationship sim than life sim. which is not what i want i want a life sim... hmm..
Hm, can you explain this a little more? thanks!
@@SimmerErin like i just cant imagine how they would handle how the parents would react to your child 'shenanigans". would they have randomization on their reactions and how things would play out? would there be an action tree about how conversations would go? which becomes repetetive eventually you understand how situations will pan out. which takes out the true 'life sim' element imo, and makes it more 'relationship sim'. its so that your actions will always have an end goal place where you can strategize to get to. you are angling for a specific goal (friendship or gaining trust or romance whatever the relationship sim flavor is.. means to an end.) life sims are more chaotic because life is chaotic. more randomized. it does not necessarily turn out any sort of way, or the way you expect. (more fun imo) more sandbox/rogue. girl rogue style games if you will
It's going to be a life simulation, in a similar genre to The Sims.
Everyone: excited to play a relaxing calm game
Me: *getting ready to find odd ways to kill my paras*
hopefully there will be some interesting deaths!
People are putting a lot of pressure on this very indie game!!! It's not gonna be the game to end all games, but I think it's clear the dev team is passionate and trying hard to make something good.
er, I hope they are planning on a lot of expansion packs? I have been dying to play "sims" but EA broke my heart so I don't want anything to do with EA anymore.
Not a lot, but some, yes. I know they are thinking first of all of a pack for occults. There are also free updates planned
I'd rather have a game world an inch long but a mile deep
good point
I've never thought of playing a household and just controlling the kids. Just think of all the chaos you could stir up with no responsibility mwahaha
ha definitely could stir up a lot of trouble
Im sure that whatever type of world is coming on paralives is 100x better than the boring lifeless sims 4 closed world!!!!
I think it'll be fun. It'll be interesting to see what lots they decide on; regardless we could have some customization in the world
All I know is this game will come out and modders will take it into the stratosphere
The basis is already better than the sims I DONT NEED AN OPEN WORLD + MY PC WOULDNT HANDLE IT
I'd rather have base game seasons and pets and travel to school/work than and all their amazing hardworked detail and custom building and character creations
But yeah I'll deal with loading screens and all that
So paralives definitely is slated to be an open world. However, it isn't the open world itself that would cause issues. It depends on how it is optimized- also keep in mind this is in the 2020's, vs 2009 (if you;re thinking of 3) and the graphics are far less demanding
Tbh looking at the super great work they did only with a small team is amazing and I won’t be pissed if we don’t get an open world ,the game already seem to look very realistic and even if we don’t get an open world the lots seems very huge and even seems like you can visit other parafolks without having a loading screen so in a way it’s kinda like an open word to me already but they’ll prob give us more of what we want on updates after the release of the game or expansions which is also one of the thing I’m the most excited about how the game will look with cc’s and expansions 🤩
Yeah, I don't think a huge world is needed for great gameplay! And I think they just need to take on what they feel is best- and like you said, update if they feel the need to
I’m so excited for this game idk why it’s getting so much hate the graphics look beautiful
Graphics are always a divisive thing. To me, graphics don't make for a good game anyway
I don't expect a fully completed base game / worlds. I would like at first a open world which they can expand in updates with rabbit holes etc. My favorite worlds in the other game are the ones where there is more to do out and about without using a loading screen. I just want more interactive things to do in the world, less loading screens and less lag, everything else can be updated or added at a later date!!!
Edit.... And to keep paras in their own world.. Not naming a certain attention seeking celeb and a land owner in the other game 🤬🤣
They won't have occults or celebs in bg, but eventually, if not too hard, some sort of population control could be useful.. idk how hard it is to do. But we also don't know how or if travel between worlds would occur- a very long way out, but interesting
I’m fine with waiting a couple weeks or months for certain features. EA made us wait 8 years to curve a wall 💀
Great Point. immersive and optimization gameplay are key to make this game work. This was mentioned in other comments, but I wonder what the system requirements are going to be for the game at launch. Going back to The Sims 3, they took this approach and got carried away making the game was unplayable for some after a few packs.
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Good question! I know their goal is to make it easy to run on very low end pcs. but I'm not ultimately sure
I don’t know anything about this game-just glad to see a “sims-esque” game have seasons and pets on launch. Stick it to tha man! We deserve better from EA after having stuck to the series for 20 years and sims 4 base game feels like the most bland and lacking of them all.
It's still pretty early in development- but it's certainly exciting for its potential
I like controlling households and would prefer it but I'm interested in how it would work having NPC household members. They'd have to be more character driven and less insane than townie Sims for that to be immersive for me
Less insane how so?
@@SimmerErin oh I don't know my NPCs are always like I found a ring in your bag should I say yes?
But also you know millionaires rummaging in trashcans etc.
Or just making loads and loads of food you don't need and then pissing themselves
Finally. We don't have to rely on EA.
it's yet to be seen, but I wish the team well
People are getting crazy with their suggestions…
ha nothing new . good news is the team seems to have a very level head
Seriously when you consider how much was lacking when Sims 4 first came out, this sounds much more immersive. Go back to the original base game before add ons free downloads, etc. Sims 4 out of the gate was very bland. And... in all honesty... with all the DLC and free adds ons it's still quite bland. They don't need all the bells and whistles out the gate. They just need to have an immersive character in an active world. With seasons, and animals you are already getting x3 what you did when Sims 4 released. So take a step back and enjoy the journey and quit worrying so much about the destination. A new adventure, with new characters, new scenery, and a new focus sounds good to me. Let's quit trying to make it into sims 4 2.0 and let it be it's own game. Enjoyed the breakdown. The less it is like Sims the happier I will be. I'm looking forward to a new experience. Be blessed.
sims 4 simply wasn't in my opinion, planned well. project olympus was slated to be a very different game and I think they should have cut their losses, started from scratch. and yeah.. it's not really about bells and whistles but a game that feels engaging, immersive and interesting
I’m very skeptical. I just don’t think we have seen interesting gameplay. Fans are making a lot of assumptions about what this game COULD be, but I’m not convinced that those ideas reflect what the game will be.
They are currently developing core live mode systems.
If you look on their website, you'll see their dev timeline
Fans do project things they want, but the team has listed what they have confirmed, and also addressed things they will not do
thought this was gunna be a great game but its going to be too in depth, too many features. And i thought it only was a few years off. that seems like years ago now and its probly still several years away.
I think in many areas they are being fairly realistic- I discuss this in my newest video. Keep in mind they are merely brainstorming. They have said no to some things, but only confirmed a handful. They began most production in 2019 and started with one person. A AAA game takes an average of 5 years to make with a full huge team from the beginning
@@SimmerErin yeh. They are great developers and the game looks brilliant. Just feels like theres a void at the moment and business wise makes sense to get a base game out and add functionality over time. Its probly not that simple i guess.
I don't want open worlds. I feel like it would lead to lag in the long run as they continue to add more features and other worlds. The team is already juggling a lot so I'd prefer them to focus on in-depth gameplay rather than this feature. Plus it wouldn't be the first time a game offered open worlds and had nothing to do in them. Semi-open neighborhoods though would seem to be the best option
Give them a chance. We can't judge other games by a badly implemented game like The Sims 4. Many, many, many other games have open worlds successfully. The Sims 4 is just rather...special... ridiculously backwards in this area.
It's a fair concern. The only thing I can say is the graphics aren't very demanding- much less so than almost all AAA games. A lot also comes down to coding & optimization.
I don't care if it's open or closed just don't give me loading screens
Closed worlds inherently have loading screens; an open world would not
@@SimmerErin I think that's an arbitrary distinction. The way a map is generated is more an indicator to me but I'm also looking at this from a coding perspective.
MULTIPLAYER??????
no, paralives won't be mp
I don’t think this game is ever gonna come out. It’s been years already and they keep adding more and more and more.
A little info about game development: many AAA games take up 5 years- and sometimes as long as 8 to make. (it can be fewer) .
gamemaker.io/en/blog/how-long-to-make-a-game
this is with a team of well over a hundred people, continual FT development and tons of resources.
Paralives, in contrast, has a team of under 10- and they haven't had a full team until about halfway through 2021
hahahaha 666th like
ha thank you
Sorry but I’m not tryna daydream and sit under a tree
? sorry?
Don't get me wrong , but I'm really bored of listening about paralives. It was exciting at first but now it seems that this game is never gonna launch. In my opinion they reliesed info about the game too early and by the time it goes public no one is gona be interested anymore. Hurry up and finish this game already...
always free to watch what you want
realistically, it takes over 5 years for many AAA games. paralives has only really gotten into development around 2019 with a small team
@@SimmerErin well i know. it's just that we learned too soon about this. sims for example only lets u know a few days before something new is relised. i'm sure they are making sims5 as we speak but keeping it a secret is much more profesional. so, when it arrives out of nowere everyone is gonna be excited
Sorry but I hate it lol I don’t like the art style at all. too cartoony for me
Graphics, art is all subjective. I personally don't look for one graphics style, but good gameplay.
Please stop saying “basegame”. Paralives is going to be a full game with a few DLC, not a basegame with million overpriced addons.
I don't understand the problem with saying base game? It's a common term for games? I never said it is going to have a "million addsons"
@@SimmerErin Well, Basegame implies that it will be as empty as Sims 4 without DLC is. It is misleading. Paralives developers themselves said, that they are not working on “basegame” but instead they are developing a feature-complete game, with only a few DLC later on, to add features that not everybody might want.
@@MsArchangeYT no... base game is just a term. It doesn't imply anything. Definition: Base game means each software product (in either digital or physical format) which does not include trial, premium content, or additional downloadable content