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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2016
- Two tilters and a fixie: Piaggio MP3, Tilting Motor Works Trio, Can-Am Spyder F3-T
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I have an MP3 500. It rides exactly like my motorcycle, but it is FAR more stable at freeway speeds, it rides like a much larger bike. . Passing trucks, wiggly pavement... no problem. Rode it from Salem, Oregon to Santa Barbara, California along the coastal road. Very comfortable, maneuverable, fast and got 70 MPG. Highly recommend it.
I have the 400 and love it. It keeps up with my husband's Harley at cruising speeds all day long.
Steve Miller
Steve Miller I have a 500cc mp3. .In the UK it's possible to ride without taking a motorcycle exam. .plus I have a leg injury which makes manoeuvring a heavy two wheeler practicality impossible but the mp3. ..lock the tilt and no problem
It's still a scooter and ugly to boot.
my brother has a spyder, he has been a biker for 35 years before getting hit by a car and almost losing his leg. They aren't the same as a bike, almost feels like a cross between a 4 wheeler and a snowmobile. But he still gets to get out and ride. Glad to see they are working on the tilting bike.
I ride a spyder because of the weight of a harley and my size wont allow me to ride two wheels
For those bashing trikes being for those who are afraid. I know a gentlemen who is one tough bastard, served 30+ years but had a stroke. The doctors said he'd be lucky to live. He owns a few businesses, walks with no help, talks fine, but can't ride regular any longer. So, he rides a trike. Not out of fear and not for being weak.
+VengefulTick Hell yes their tough. I have seen it up close and personal. It is not easy to go through life when the body no longer does what you tell it to. It takes guts, fortitude and perseverance to push through and continue to be active and continue on with things like riding. What does it take to be an internet punk and sit on a keyboard in mommies basement and wrongfully denigrate others?
It gives people who can ride a bike an option. Well done!
Absolutely fantastic!!! These could be very nice for beginners. Hey, I might even get one when I'm too old to ride two up? Hmmm, just when you think you have seen everything, something like this comes along??? Keep those knees to the breeze!!!!
Nothing wrong riding a trike! I road a Ural for years, I also have a Busa in the garage it's fun to ride something different!
100% agree. I have 6 bikes from a 50cc scooter to a can-am spyder. Everyone makes me smile when I go riding
They would have a gold mine with a nice tilting Spyder. Glad Diamondback Division is getting close to their product
For everyone whining about trikes, they are designed to keep bikers on bikes when physical ailments take over. Personally, I think this design is a missing link for a lot of riders that have had to give up their bikes.
In another interview, the designer explained his desire to still have the proper motorcycle riding feel, while adding a bit more contact patch, with an extra tire, to make cornering faster, and lesson the danger of gravel on a bend. He also worked with veterans because there are A LOT of riders with leg & back injuries that just can't hold up a large bike anymore. Getting these folks back on a bike was the inspiration for the hydraulic version that stands itself up at lower speeds & stops. Unlike traditional trike conversions that change the whole riding/handling experience, this set up retains the steering and feel of a bike.
+LoganPicks A third wheel does not increase the contact patch. it merely redistributes it. The size of the contact patch is dependent on the weight and air pressure. You can change the shape of the contact patch but the size does not change.
+Coleman Adamson
I don't follow. A "contact patch" is the patch of tire making contact with the road at a given moment. If you take 2, normal sized motorcycle tires and then add another the same size, yes you are increasing the amount of contact patch as far as I understand it.
Anyhow, it wasn't my words. It was what the designer has to say in a different interview.
LoganPicks Your conception of contact patch behavior is only true in a non-pneumatic tire. The more tires, the more the weight is distributed among them. Each tire has less workload, less weight to bear. Therefore the contact patch for each tire becomes smaller. Tires are not flat, they are round. The more inflated, the higher the pressure, the smaller the contact patch. Adding more tires will add to the size of the contact patch ONLY if you decrease the air pressure in them...and then only to a point beyond which the tire will fold up under itself and you lose contact in the center of the patch. Related: if you put wide tires on a car you change the shape of the patch but not the size. The shape becomes wider side to side but shorter front to back. This aids starting and stopping but makes cornering less stable and makes it harder to steer in a straight line. Taller thinner tires lengthen the contact patch front to back and shorten it side to side thus making straight line rolling and cornering more stable but this takes away from stopping and starting. abilities.
+Coleman Adamson
Again, just what the designer said in an interview, not my words however, if you must argue an old post, you are only partially right. Yes, adding another tire spreads the weight, lessening the contact patch on each tire, but it's not a direct correlation. Weight & pressure adjustments on a tire only changed the contact patch by a percentage. While you are correct thinking that the contact patch on the other two tires will decrease, when adding the third tire, the decrease won't be equal to the area gained by the extra tire. If one really wants to get picky, this all changes again with sidewall flex, compound composite of the tire, downforce, temperature... but that's really overkill.
Basically, I'll be sticking to my 2 wheels, but trikes can be a great option for those with physical limitations. This leaning design is the closest a trike has come to a two wheeled bikes feel and road behaviour.
LoganPicks Disagree. Unless you can show me the physics, or provide a technical explanation.
I love Can-Am!
I have the 2016 MP3 500. Different from the other two shown, it CAN fall over unless you engage the lock switch. This can only be done at very low RPM and under 10 MPH. Mainly it's only used to park it and at lights if you don't feel like balancing the bike. As a side note, the 2021 MP3 500 Sport now has reverse!@
The Can-Am Spyder is a roadster. BRP doesn't market it as a motorcycle. I'm laughing at all the 3 wheel haters getting their panties in a bunch. Kudos to those who ride, you're out there doing it on 2 wheels or 3.
I have almost 250,000 miles under my belt on conventional motorcycles, and I am buying a Can-Am Spyder F3-S next month. I'll keep one bike, though.
So with the tilting trikes, you initiate a lean with a little countersteering the same as a conventional bike but the spyder, you turn the bars in the direction you want to go?
These add-ons are cool! These guys have something! This is something Harley should have done! They could sell more bikes!
For the vast number of riders that don't like or want Harleys, you should have mentioned that "TMW can now convert Honda Gold Wing GL1800s and related models including the Gold Wing Valkyrie and F6B".
- RunningWithScissors - Make sure you have a reverse gear! Big n Heavy!
seesaw The 2018 & 2019 goldwings have reverse on them. I know the dct models do anyways.
nice bikes
I still want to see these guys compare these reverse trike options with some traditional trikes like Harley Tri-Glide or Freewheeler or even a Goldwing trike. Would love to hear their comparisons as to handling.
Rear wheel trikes are a totally different ride. Unless the front end has been raked out several degrees the upper body strength to man handle them around a corner is very high. I would give up riding a motorcycle if it had to be a rear three wheeler anything.
Le 3 roues se marie très bien avec le style custom je trouve.
It's about time Tilting Motor Works get some notice...
Nice review :)
krishnan srinivasan
When I see these 3-wheelers lean into a turn, I can't take my eyes away
scraping floor boards on a harley isnt a hard feat in the first place. haha still a very beautiful bike though
Any plans to revisit this and include the Nikken and Neo-Wing?
Now let’s make a tilting 4 wheel ride. These tricks are great if you have a handicap they allow you to ride and be safe with all the fun of a bike. I think they are great. Next we will have electric drive or a roof or maybe even air-conditioning why not satisfy all the people that want to experience the freedom of leaning into a corner.
us vintage scooter guys used to call the under sear bucket the rain proof heated carry
really
hello from 2020! we cant ride this year as much as planed. shiny side up!
Of course it feels great to be in a 3 way 😂😂
A summer snowmobile vs a scooter vs an after market shed build conversion
Buenisimo!!!!! X 3....👍👍👍
wish they had compared the stopping distances between the 3 bikes, and a similar 2 wheeler
What's up/ This video is$nice recess motionless ! !!
Quit judging people. If someone wants to ride a 3 wheeler, it is their life. Different isn't ugly or bad or stupid, it is just not what you want to do, it is different. I just wonder how you miss a rock in the middle of your lane in a corner especially if the rock is slightly inside the center of the lane on a right hand, reduced radius turn....
Great to know Mike, thanks!
I would RIDE THEM, COOL
genius!
will it work on a fzr1000
It's already been made by Yamaha 2 years ago. The Yamaha Tri-City.
Big tujunga canyon!
this was in Jay Leno's garrage.
What year Harley can be converted to three wheel tilt ? I have 1997 Road King can it be converted ?
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Is this boke meant for physically challenge person ?
Any idea where one keep crutches ?
Is that sturdy and have nice shock absorber for person who have spin problem ???
Modern Harleys are available with cruise control.
when these bikes will be launched in India? India requires such as these bikes will make go for huge sales in India
10k for that conversion is absolutely ridiculous.
Check low angle camerman at 6:53
Lol. I scraped the footboards on the Harley. That happens on most bends.
I'm happy as long as I can pick my own drivers!
Thank God they got rid of the V-Twin engine in the Spyder. I'm sure the inline triple is orders of magnitude smoother and more practical.
Such elitists here, I'm all for anybody on 2 or 3. Some can't or don't want to ride 2 so 3 is a better option for them. It doesn't make them weak or sissies, just makes them not you. We as a community need to be or accepting of anybody who is willing to swing there leg over a death trap whether it has 2 or 3 wheels.
The leading Harley would be very interesting to ride. .
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chug chug Willie "H" and Cal Rayborn both spinning away at the very notion
of a Hardly a David's Son "thing"
Would nice if they made a affordable universal reverse trike kit model to fit any Motorcycle or scooter Not just HD. Can’t ride on two anymore. I have a RYKER but I have a Sportster, and a Hondamatic, front end storage like the Can Am.
They do make it for more then just Harleys .Tiltingmotorworks.com
Curious how would the Niken do against this bunch :-)
They did not compare properly the experience of driving the "Tilting' Design to the Can Am. This was the whole purpose in watching this at least for me.
Great American engineering
The opening music says it all about the demographics these things appeal to.
Reklama triraciu motociklu gera,o kokia kaina,ar galima nusipirkti ir t.t.?
If you look at the segment at 6:09 it sure looks like it is NOT countersteering.
How does it steer then?
Both the Harley conversion because of price, and the MP3 because come guys it's a scooter don't do it for me. The Can Am with the bigger engine and overall feature set is the ticket IMHO
Hi there, well to you people that downgrade 3 wheels. If you ever get hurt in your back and you lose your balance at the same time, the 3 wheel is the way to go if you want to ride again!!
tilting motorworks. turn steering right and it leans right.. shouldn't it lean left? doing it wrong..
Always enjoy your reviews but the new microphones your using are horrible.
Change is always coming, that's a reality and these machines are also better placed for future hybrid models, with Spyder in the lead on that ,as the prototype was made years ago 660 and electric,just a 1330 version needed.
I want
how much dollar US.
The Harley conversion is more expensive than the MP3 is in its entirety. And then it still needs an HD to convert. Also like the CanAm it's too wide to filter through traffic.
Ablan mucho presentan poko
Price????
cant use in hard trraffic like 2 wheels
They better start paying motorcycle technicians a lot more money to work on those things!
Shaine MacDonald
i have to wonder how hard could it be to adapt the harley's system to another bike.
say....a sport bike of some sort....
make one that can go off-road
Im going to have to find another way to transport my elephant...
What would happen if you added a rear trike kit to the tilting motor works front trike kit? You all should do this and see how it works. Plus I just want to see it
+bowlingmatt1 Not quite what you're looking for, but I imagine the Quadro4 would be a start for you, only with one front wheel instead of two.
Matt - Now that is just stupid!
Some people act as if they will ban 2 wheeled bikes because 3 wheeled bike exist. Just more toys to play with. road, no road, snow, water all are better then a cage
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I'd get the Motor Works for my 2015 FLHP Road King Police-but not at hat stupid high price. It's not like it is as complicated to manufacture and assemle as a small car and yet it's priced like one. No thanks, not at that price. A good engineer can make a successful design and a cost effective one too!
I'll just throw on my 20 year old $1,200 Velorex Model 562 Side car and be just as comfortable and safe. With the additional capability of being able to carry another passenger or a huge amount of items and clothing. It comes with a rear luggage rack so I can have an additional passenger and additional storage.
The price also reflects the low volume. I'm sure it would be much less expensive if he knew he could sell 20,000 units per year.
Why the music ffs?
I rode a Can-Am out at Sturgis on a demo ride. Hated it. The front end was so twitchy that I felt very unsafe on it. Complete fail in my opinion.
If a Can-Am Spyder leaned it would be worth the price.
Can-Am is in the perfect position to develop a leaning trike. I have an MP3 as well as a sport tourer and sport bike. I have ridden the CA Spyder and it scared me to death because in the twisties, it wants you off it's back. It is too much work to stay on it. I would have been better off if I never rode motorcycles before getting on the Spyder. But, if the Spyder was a "leaner", it would be something I'd buy. The Harley kit just adds too much expense to an already pricey motorcycle. I think Yamaha and Honda have leaning trike prototypes in the works. Can-Am will be playing catch-up if they don't act soon.
I've always wondered how much upper body strength it takes to ride a Can-Am through the twisties.
FRANK Gman I agree completely. I have an RT-S n I had to learn how to drive it but like any other bike u will have to get to know it and how to work with it. Its good for long trip or casual rides. I learned to like after riding it for a month straight but after u hop on it after riding ur regular bikes u can't help but feel disappointed by its limits
Carolan Ivey I'm limited because of a disability. And the can ams are a breeze to turn. But like anything, you'll be sore eventually. But you'll go longer on a can am. However, I've never heard anyone saying "Hey nice stock can am!!"
so do you guys just watch top gear episodes and copy them episode for episode?
The can am spyder has too much of a face lol
there's a population like myself, injured in a bad accident, can no longer work so money is a priority and who's unable to ride 2 wheel bikes, so to be able to ride a Harley or any other 2 wheel bike, without using "Training Wheels", I need an additional $10,000.00 ! At what point is 3 wheel bikes going to be priced the same as regular bikes. Riding a bike is a hobby, not a necessity, unlike my youth when all I had was a bike I could afford.
Hey/ What A Great Idfa. venomous caring What's happennng..
Are these orthopedic devices eligible for Medicare coverage as Durable Medical Equipment? Just wondering, in case I ever get too old to ride motorcycles. By the way, I will be 74 next week, and I am going to take my K1200S out for a spin as soon as the weather improves.
wow... 74?? I wish i dont crash by that age..if ever..
It was 75 degrees in Dallas today and I was out boring holes in traffic. So far, so good...
Why ride two wheeler when there is something more comfortable 👍👍👍🕴
You lost me at "if somebody drops it". HONESTLY!!!! If you can drop thing, WOW!
It's like the Can Am Spyder except its not gay.
the trio would be so cool if they made them with a bike that wasn't a piece of shit
When is Adam Sandler going to come out with a movie about a trike motorcycle gang.
+cpuspeed When you stop watching "Torque" again, and again, and again...complaining that didn't won an Oscar.
I think the Earth is now wider than it was even a slice. So you can tolerate three wheeler. I myself drive motorcycle and gilera fuoco and have fun here. The Harley but I clearly front too wide. So it is certainly difficult to drive the ideal line.
Krawall
All I want to know is how much $$$ I had the same similar idea. I am a medically retired police officer because My legs and most of my major bones were broken...I haven't been able to ride for three years...Please send me the info.
+callmelazarus The video states the price of the Harley trike conversion up front. Ten grand at a minimum, so unless you've already got a Harley (or Goldwing), it's probably about the same price as a new Spyder. The Piaggio MP3s tend to retail for ~$9,000 new, but it's pretty easy to find older models for much cheaper than that, particularly the 250s and 400s if you don't mind less engine muscle.
Dear god such hideous looking contraptions
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！趕快製造四輪機車,,,,,
Should've used the yamaha Nikken instead of a dang scooter.
That mp3 has a human face..
I sure hope these motorcycles have autopilot because I will make it a lot easier to drive them.
hellow
+David Strada hi
I think i'll pass on this one.
God that thing is hideous I guess it will be great for when I'm 50-80 and can't ride my bike myself anymore
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Cool now put the training wheels on the rear tire!!
Just add trainer wheels to your hardly ........
Thank you for these video reviews, but PLEASE lose the dumb music. Just play those engines.