Dampers... WHAT A DRAG!

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  • čas přidán 19. 03. 2022
  • Your daily intake of dampers low? I've got you covered!
    Turn your project up a notch (but slower) with one of these!
    Rotary, linear, hybrid, dapper, we got all types.
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    Music: Switched on Carcassi - Brian Bolger
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  • @AlphaPhoenixChannel
    @AlphaPhoenixChannel Před 2 lety +693

    So I watched this video whenever it came out - feels like days ago - but this morning when I tried to close the toilet seat, I kinda instinctively threw it down to make it close faster. As I dejectedly stood there watching it drop those last couple centimeters, I’d SWEAR I heard ToT whisper “rotary dampers”. Maybe even saw the word fly across my retina. Maybe I wasn’t completely awake yet…

    • @jadoncampbell2740
      @jadoncampbell2740 Před 2 lety +5

      Hi love your Chanel

    • @poiu477
      @poiu477 Před 2 lety +1

      me too thanks

    • @seanlavoie2
      @seanlavoie2 Před 2 lety +3

      Funny, but I’d love such a thing. My youngest one knows better, but still let’s the lid slam.

    • @village_idiot
      @village_idiot Před 2 lety +6

      My wife just bought a replacement soft close seat for our boy's toilet. Once they were admiring their installation job I heard them both whisper "rotary dampers"

    • @FoxMacLeod2501
      @FoxMacLeod2501 Před rokem +3

      I keep laughing sporadically, as I keep recalling the scene created from the enjoyably descriptive text of AlphaPhoenix, conveying a superb snapshot of what seems, at first, to be a completely genuine, 100% not at all serious case, a (coincidentally and not obviously for humor) sleep-deprived encounter with a lavatory poltergeist* interfering in what a morning routine gone suddenly awry...
      Ah, the travails of we who arise per a dictated timetable... perpetual inhabitants of somewhere shy of full rest, thanks to our individual clock-based klaxons... This, and employment, in exchange for only rarely reaching the idyllic, sun-bleached shores of the circadian adherents. By another name, the fully rested; who rely predominantly upon the internal switchgear pre-calibrated to render most of us awake only when rested... Though our contemporary setting would see most only able to do so in exchange for our punctuality, and thus our employment, and so on, until reaching a condition of even worse rest, after losing the capacity to maintain residence in a private abode.
      *Lavatory Poltergeist is also on tour, this September!

  • @86abaile
    @86abaile Před 2 lety +1698

    I just want you to know, this video has given me the solution to a problem I've been trying to design around for a year. Dunno why I didn't think of it myself, but thanks.

    • @jrmbayne
      @jrmbayne Před 2 lety +225

      This video has given me a problem to a solution I've had for a long time

    • @operator8014
      @operator8014 Před 2 lety +132

      Was it.........
      Rotary dampers??

    • @spehropefhany
      @spehropefhany Před 2 lety +42

      @@operator8014 Helical dampers! But yes this is a solution to a cam-like issue I was working on.

    • @myoptik3x103
      @myoptik3x103 Před 2 lety +3

      @@operator8014 Aawww, you beat me to it.

    • @whitey129
      @whitey129 Před 2 lety +30

      I'd like to add, I used to have that same calculator my dad gave me from a ag industry convention... It was a cool gadget when I was 10. Thanks for the nostalgia👌

  • @thomasstuart2936
    @thomasstuart2936 Před 2 lety +335

    My favorite example of rotary dampers was on the joystick of the F-14 Tomcat. Being designed before fly-by-magic the joystick was directly connected to the huge, 3000 psi cylinders moving the stabilators in the back, To stop excessively "maverick" pilots from ripping the stabs off in high speed maneuvers, dampers were installed to slow the pilot input.
    This gave ground crew the ability to punish errant fighter jocks by asking the to do several minutes of stick "wipeouts", involving moving the stick through it's full range while under a closed canopy in the hot sun.
    We would tell the pilot that we needed it to troubleshoot a problem, we just left out the part about the problem being them not listening to ground crew instruction.

    • @shawbros
      @shawbros Před 2 lety +24

      Were they told afterward that it was punishment?
      Punishment is worse when you know you are being punished.

    • @henrikoldcorn
      @henrikoldcorn Před 2 lety +12

      And then the bastards who designed the F-16 just bolted the joystick down. Ha!

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 Před 2 lety +6

      Eddy current damper?

    • @seriousZmij
      @seriousZmij Před 2 lety +4

      @@pgtmr2713 those are epic! And so failproof they are being used on many rollercoasters and joyrides.

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 Před 2 lety +2

      @@seriousZmij Many different kinds. But I was asking if the part the op was referring to was the eddy current damper specifically.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera Před 2 lety +60

    The coolest example of rotary dampers in consumer tech is definitely soft-eject cassette decks -- not that anyone uses them anymore, but still.

    • @Joetechlincolns
      @Joetechlincolns Před 2 lety +3

      One of many things that fascinated me as a child. Lol

    • @ronnetgrazer362
      @ronnetgrazer362 Před 2 lety +4

      My cheap cassette deck lid mechanism just had plastic gears covered with schmoo, which worked fine at first. Every time I opened it to switch tapes those gears were exposed, and they gathered dust and lint as you would expect. It went from soft-open to pry-open within a year or so...

    • @lylelaylin2912
      @lylelaylin2912 Před rokem +1

      In the far distant past, top load video cassette decks had a rotary vane air damper to ease the otherwise violent eject mech. a little wingity thing that spun like crazy.

    • @chrisandrus2735
      @chrisandrus2735 Před 5 měsíci

      I use them all the time!

  • @quartfeira
    @quartfeira Před 2 lety +246

    You can't understand how happy I am every time that I see "This old Tony" notification 😁♥️✌️

  • @user-sb3wh3dd4v
    @user-sb3wh3dd4v Před 2 lety +271

    TOT, you are informative and FUN! FYI: I made a "James Bond" style pedal board for a guitarist friend. He wanted "cool factor 11" but had little money, so I used the rotary dampers from an old toilet seat to make the lid open just as you mentioned here. Battery-powered LED lights turn on automatically thanks to a re-purposed switch for refrigerators. ( available online) The curious thing is, Dave was always a decent guitarist, but had trouble finding work. When he showed up to jam sessions with this "JB / cool factor 11 pedal board," other musicians noticed. That made him appear more professional... well, that and losing 60 lbs, getting some new clothes and regular haircuts. Now he gets more calls for paying gigs. It's amazing what Rotary Dampers and personal hygiene can accomplish!

    • @bwyseymail
      @bwyseymail Před 2 lety +3

      James Bond ????
      More like Spinal Tap.

    • @sparklesparklesparkle6318
      @sparklesparklesparkle6318 Před 2 lety +6

      Thank you for inspiring me! I can now promptly give up on all of my goals with grace.

    • @jgbreezer
      @jgbreezer Před 2 lety +4

      More evidence for the adage, "dress for the job you want" (rather than the one you got).

    • @zerumsum1640
      @zerumsum1640 Před 2 lety +2

      please, please put a video of that online. I must see the majesty of Optimus Prime's pedalboard.

    • @daltanionwaves
      @daltanionwaves Před 2 lety +1

      I thought I was the only one with guitarist friends with little money

  • @WilliamDye-willdye
    @WilliamDye-willdye Před 2 lety +22

    I loved the way those calculators would ease open and stand up. Had no idea how simple the mechanism was, which IMO makes the ease-open function even more impressive.

  • @skullys
    @skullys Před 2 lety +54

    The first time I learned about these was when I was working as a electronic technician back in the early 80's repairing cassette decks. I was amazed at such a simple design that creates such a cool effect, thanks Tony for the memories!

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux Před 2 lety +3

      I remember this too ! :)
      So classy ...

    • @frizzlefry1921
      @frizzlefry1921 Před 2 lety +4

      People think cassettes sound bad till they hear a good akai gx head!

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux Před 2 lety +4

      @@frizzlefry1921 I had a Denon tape player, good speakers, and the sound was great.

    • @daltanionwaves
      @daltanionwaves Před 2 lety +3

      Like all the good hit songs, the brilliance is often in their simplicity. The most simple mechanism for solving a problem is always the best mechanism for the job.

  • @rhalfik
    @rhalfik Před 2 lety +293

    The goop is called viscous grease or just damping grease. For faster action you would use viscous oil - vehicle suspension, camera tripod heads. A solid state counterpart is viscous rubber. Mostly butyl, widely used in acoustics.

    • @ianc4901
      @ianc4901 Před 2 lety +32

      Thankfully I didn't have to wade through endless nonsensical comments to find this one !
      What is it based on if it is not water or alcohol soluble ?

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop Před 2 lety +23

      @@ianc4901 oil-based, silicone-thickened. Exact composition is never revealed, like with any oil/grease/polymer

    • @typhoon2827
      @typhoon2827 Před 2 lety +49

      The best viscous grease is from Scotland, UK, where it is harvested from the scrotal sacks of the male haggis in springtime. Very very expensive. And a dangerous job to harvest. In an emergency situation dampers can be repacked with standard pig spunk but only expect half the damping qualities.

    • @mattsadventureswithart5764
      @mattsadventureswithart5764 Před 2 lety +7

      @@typhoon2827 it has to be used for deep fried Mars bars first, or it wont last as long.

    • @grigorbrowning
      @grigorbrowning Před 2 lety +10

      @@typhoon2827 half the damping qualities!? Are you kidding? At room temperature perhaps but the thermal-viscosity curve for pig spunk is horrific. Haggis jizz or nothing.

  • @Geniusinventor
    @Geniusinventor Před 2 lety +520

    Can we all take a moment to appreciate the work this man is doing to entertain and educate us man thank you very much!.

    • @TheAedalas
      @TheAedalas Před 2 lety +8

      "entertain and educate"
      That combination is why TOT is a national treasure. Sure there's going to be tons of write-ups online or in the library about how dampers work, it would even stand to reason that some go into greater detail. But none of them are going to be even remotely as entertaining as he is. This channel is like the blue-collar, adult version of Mr. Wizard or Bill Nye, he makes learning fun and that's amazing. Tony should be knighted, or whatever the dirty garage version of that is over here in the States.

    • @tim.garrison
      @tim.garrison Před 2 lety +3

      I

    • @NoName-zn1sb
      @NoName-zn1sb Před 2 lety +1

      The clever patter isn't doing much for me anymore. Inane, banal

    • @ryanburbridge
      @ryanburbridge Před 2 lety

      Just took 13 minutes and 40 seconds to appreciate the work?

    • @TheAedalas
      @TheAedalas Před 2 lety +9

      @@NoName-zn1sb Nobody is forcing you to watch it. Or are they? Because that would be kinda weird. Are they holding your eyelids open? Did they put it on repeat and hid the remote? That's some crazy Clockwork Orange type shit, man. You should try to escape eventually. Just wait until you've seen all his videos first though.

  • @snoopsnet8150
    @snoopsnet8150 Před rokem +18

    This is something I've been curious about for YEARS. I'm familiar with rotory dampers, but anytime I saw those calculators, I knew there was no way they fit a full damper in there. Also, they certainly wouldn't be giving them away for free if they did. Many thanks!

  • @thomasbecker9676
    @thomasbecker9676 Před 2 lety +63

    Engineer here, and thank you for calling them "dampers," and not "dampeners." My flight controls instructor loved calling out students who incorrectly called them "dampeners."

    • @Jujudo
      @Jujudo Před 2 lety +6

      Sounds like a damper of moods

    • @ColonelSandersLite
      @ColonelSandersLite Před 2 lety +9

      @@Jujudo Pretty sure you meant a "dampener" of moods.

    • @morgan5941
      @morgan5941 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ColonelSandersLite Only rain can dampen a mood.

    • @daltanionwaves
      @daltanionwaves Před 2 lety +8

      You know you're an engineer when you have fond memories of your old flight instructor scolding students for calling dampers dampeners.

    • @thomasbecker9676
      @thomasbecker9676 Před 2 lety +2

      @@daltanionwaves good old Pat Anderson.

  • @EngineeringSpareTime
    @EngineeringSpareTime Před 2 lety +238

    rotary dampers always increase the feel of quality of a product by a lot

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace Před 2 lety +9

      Plus they protect children's hands when they try to drop the toilet seat.

    • @nerfherder4284
      @nerfherder4284 Před 2 lety +30

      My favorite is those expensive cabinet hinges that you can try to slam but just at the last second: magic!

    • @dirkmohrmann8960
      @dirkmohrmann8960 Před 2 lety +71

      With some exceptions apparently. I was really expecting my "premium mouse traps" to sell better

    • @physicsguybrian
      @physicsguybrian Před 2 lety +2

      Right up until they stop working...

    • @daveverdonschot7956
      @daveverdonschot7956 Před 2 lety +5

      There are exceptions.... Like the Suzuki TL1000S 😉

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 Před 2 lety +623

    I used to be obsessed with those calculator things as a kid, for some reason.
    It was like a fun-sized laptop! Small things are always fun!

  • @TheSynthnut
    @TheSynthnut Před 2 lety +15

    The most common damping grease is made by Rocol and is called Kilopoise. It's available in a number of grades from very light to crazy stiff. It's also stupidly expensive, but a little goes a long way. I use it for rejuvenating potentiometers that have dried out, been cleaned or feel gritty among other stuff.

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen Před rokem

      I was about to write a comment that I wonder why that sticky grease is not used for all springed hinges because that makes a pretty cool rotational damper with very little parts and doesn't need any o-rings. If the grease is expensive, it's much cheaper the leave it out and forget about the damper effect.

  • @blazbohinc4964
    @blazbohinc4964 Před 2 lety +1

    I swear. This dude could talk about anything whatsoever and I'd still put it on before bed and fall asleep to his soothing voice. Like I totally haven't done multiple times in the past. Nah uh.

  • @felixmerz6229
    @felixmerz6229 Před 2 lety +315

    I'm actually respecting the simplicity of that design. Very clever.

    • @ukzen9309
      @ukzen9309 Před 2 lety +7

      Imagine the process of assembling them all in a factory without getting in a mess.

    • @Paremo_
      @Paremo_ Před 2 lety +13

      It does leave me wondering about the goop. Is that just someones grease recipe with some ingredient quintupled? Did some lab spend months testing for the exact right, or just maximum, amount of goopishness? Did the manufacturer have to run their mixing vats half-empty so the motors could cope?

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop Před 2 lety +3

      @@Paremo_ nah, they just doubled the motors

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen Před 2 lety +14

      @@Paremo_ My humble guess is that this is what is left after a cracking process of silicon oil. When you "build" hydro silicates it's rather difficult to control the chain lengths so you end up with a mix of stuff. Fractional distillation can sort that for the shorter chains pretty easy, but once you get to boiling temperatures of several hundred degrees it's easier to just stop and start using a cracking method. This gives better yields of the lower chain length variants (which are usually in higher demand) but it also causes polymerization of chains with many side branches.... and thus you end up with some unusable "goo" ("tar" would be the hydro carbon equivalent) as a waste product... But what if that goo could be it's own product? :P

    • @2whl4re
      @2whl4re Před 2 lety

      Thank you for not saying 'literally'.

  • @paulg3336
    @paulg3336 Před 2 lety +152

    The "sticky goop" is a high viscosity silicone fluid. Most of unsealed dampers use this in some way or another.
    Few things will dissolve it other than siloxane solvents such as Polydimethylsiloxane (dimethicone)

    • @chrisburbank6484
      @chrisburbank6484 Před 2 lety +19

      now you tell him

    • @paulg3336
      @paulg3336 Před 2 lety +90

      @@chrisburbank6484 It "wears off" the fingers over an hour or two.
      "wears off" as in: transfers to everything you touch - not a big deal unless you are a spray painter. Ask a spray painter what he thinks of silicones if you want to learn some new words.

    • @jschlesinger2
      @jschlesinger2 Před 2 lety +5

      @Paul G: Polydimethylsiloxane is a key ingredient in personal lubricant -- maybe that would remove the schmoo? I've used similar Polydimethylsiloxane-based liquids when putting together bendy, tricky-to-fit rubber assemblies. It works pretty well.

    • @nalinux
      @nalinux Před 2 lety +3

      Maybe silicon lub for sex toys will disolve it too :)

    • @dMb1869
      @dMb1869 Před 2 lety +12

      @Paul G My stepdad paints cars and you should hear the things he had to say when someone put a car that had been slathered in Armor-all in his painting area. I definitely learned quite a few new words that day.

  • @Oliviiiful
    @Oliviiiful Před 2 lety

    Always great to watch your funny and informative videos.

  • @peterrayden8357
    @peterrayden8357 Před 2 lety

    Always a pleasure!

  • @BravoCharleses
    @BravoCharleses Před 2 lety +39

    This Old Tony, when I grow up I want to be smart and good at stuff like you. I'm 34 years old and I hope the growing up starts real soon.

    • @DizzyRonson
      @DizzyRonson Před 2 lety +4

      i'm 35.. nothing has happened yet..

    • @BravoCharleses
      @BravoCharleses Před 2 lety +9

      @@DizzyRonson Maybe I need to start wearing shirts with buttons.

    • @tnmoe-
      @tnmoe- Před 2 lety +3

      @@BravoCharleses - 36, tried button shirts, nothing. Going to try getting up at 5am and having sugar/milk deficient coffee. Maybe not both at once, I don't want to over do it.

    • @mungtor
      @mungtor Před 2 lety +7

      @@tnmoe- Did 5am mornings, shirts with buttons, and black coffee for 10 years. 1 out of 5. Would not recommend. Did not get smarter or gooder. Just tireder and older.

    • @henrinaths1
      @henrinaths1 Před 2 lety

      That ship sailed a long time ago. I’m twice as old with 1/2 the patience!
      And more engineering problems then I can shake a stick at.
      I know the time is right when Tony show me the solution. Bahahaha 😁

  • @bpark10001
    @bpark10001 Před 2 lety +46

    I have seen eddy current dampers (neodymium magnet & aluminum disc). I have also seen the spring function done with a pair of coaxial magnets. There are also "friction dampers" using magnet & iron with wide hysteresis loop. These have constant drag force independent of velocity (like friction brake with constant normal force). Advantage is no goop & no mechanical wear in the brake.
    Expensive camera lenses are "lubricated" with viscous grease to give them the "gushy" feel.
    Another damper is the "butterfly" in a clock to regulate the speed of the chime movement. This is a "gas rotary damper".

    • @schannoman
      @schannoman Před 2 lety +6

      Don't forget piano dampers. (I'm a piano tech trying to be relevant)

    • @bpark10001
      @bpark10001 Před 2 lety +2

      @@schannoman That is a totally different animal. That's designed to stop vibration on an external input. The piano action part that is more relevant is the hammer back-check to prevent hammer bounce.

    • @schannoman
      @schannoman Před 2 lety +5

      @@bpark10001 Thanks for explaining my job to me. I was being pedantic.

    • @nopenoperson9118
      @nopenoperson9118 Před 2 lety

      @@schannoman More like explaining your job for you, since you opted to complain about not being included yet didn't put forth the effort yourself.

    • @schannoman
      @schannoman Před 2 lety

      @@nopenoperson9118 oh yay. More irrelevant sealioning

  • @nutsnproud6932
    @nutsnproud6932 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Tony. I learned something new today.

  • @backwardsmachining7526
    @backwardsmachining7526 Před 2 lety +1

    As always love your videos.

  • @tomsko863
    @tomsko863 Před 2 lety +152

    Some additional Info: the damper at 5:27 is usually called a Barrel or Vane Damper, depending on the manufacturer. In the automotive industry the major suppliers for interior dampers (those found in the glovebox, sunglass bin, console, etc) are Nifco, ITW and Cultraro (sorry if I am leaving anyone out). I have never seen the "spring loaded with goo" damper from any of those suppliers. I wonder if that design is durable enough for what we need. Anyone knows of a supplier of them?

    • @joebob3719
      @joebob3719 Před 2 lety +25

      Corporate swag obviously

    • @twicecookedpork6220
      @twicecookedpork6220 Před 2 lety +37

      Also, most small one-way rotary dampers like the plastic ones with gears shown don't use oil, they use a very stiff torsion spring tightly wrapped around a cylinder made of a low-friction plastic like PTFE or Delrin. When rotated in one direction, the torque tightens the spring around the cylinder which creates resistance, and when rotated the other direction, the spring uncoils slightly and spins freely.

    • @squelchstuff
      @squelchstuff Před 2 lety +27

      @@twicecookedpork6220 That mechanism is often used in ceiling fans. It allows the blades to freewheel when un-powered, but the torque of the motor tightens the spring. to drive the fan. They will slip under heavy load, therefore adding a bit of safety I would presume.

    • @gavin5410
      @gavin5410 Před 2 lety +5

      @@squelchstuff I feel like this is a similar mechanism they use for a similar reason somewhere else. I can't think of where but I vividly remember the design. It has a solid outer ring and an inner ring in 4 pieces which fits inside just loose enough for the outer ring to spin freely. When the inner ring spins, the 4 parts of it expand outward due to centrifugal force, gripping the outer ring, and spinning it too. But also allowing it to slip if necessary, like the mechanism in the fan you described. For the life of me I can't imagine what it was for. Maybe a cheap differential in RC cars.

    • @stevegredell1123
      @stevegredell1123 Před 2 lety +13

      @@gavin5410 It's called a centrifugal clutch. Also used in some snow mobiles and ATVs.

  • @mechanismguy
    @mechanismguy Před 2 lety +80

    Another very similar application is to provide a pleasing resistance to knobs, like a volume knob on a stereo. These things work not so much with baffles, but with close fitting surfaces that slide across each other (to use oil it would be more like a shock on a car which relies on oil being forced through small orifices by a moving piston). This stuff is more like really sticky grease than oil, so it won't drain out and it maximizes resistance. Like you see in the video this stuff is almost like glue. Very messy to work with. Another point is that they self-heat because they are dissipating the braking energy as heat. So they start to move faster if you cycle them a number of times. Nye Lubricants sells a wide variety of formulations of "damping grease" for these purposes. I used a Nye product on the Evertune guitar bridge to prevent high frequency vibrations which caused buzzing.

    • @walterw2
      @walterw2 Před 2 lety +5

      wait, the evertune? that's yours?
      wow, that's an amazing design, kudos!
      (for those watching at home, imagine a guitar where you can just twist the tuning key randomly or even push or pull on the string itself and it will _not_ change in pitch; it's kind of uncanny in real world use)

    • @pseudotasuki
      @pseudotasuki Před 2 lety +2

      Oh geez, yeah. Nothing makes a piece of electronics feel cheap like an un-damped knob. Manufacturers could, of course, use potentiometers and rotary encoders that have built-in damping, but those cost a few cents extra.

    • @Jujudo
      @Jujudo Před 2 lety +4

      can you provide a pleasing resistance to my knob

    • @ProleDaddy
      @ProleDaddy Před 2 lety +3

      @@Jujudo oh, internet...

    • @stanmacdonald1073
      @stanmacdonald1073 Před 2 lety +1

      I can see why you'd want a volume knob that heated up and turned easier as you work feverishly to find the right volume:-)

  • @shortribslongbow5312
    @shortribslongbow5312 Před 2 lety

    Yes that was interesting. Thanks for sharing.

  • @michael7324
    @michael7324 Před 2 lety

    Another great video. Thanks Tony.

  • @henriquepc6853
    @henriquepc6853 Před 2 lety +21

    Man. I purchased my first lathe last year because of you TOT. And I'm loving it!!!! Still learning. But it's awesome!

  • @jesusestrada5543
    @jesusestrada5543 Před 2 lety +6

    Man I miss that 2000s era silver plastic that everything was made of. We oughta bring it back.

    • @meercreate
      @meercreate Před 2 lety

      No. Leave that silver plastic that rubs off and turns nasty colors in the noughties where it belongs.
      Atomic purple and translucent blobjects (minus clear, that's prison gadget color) need to make a comeback, and kind of already are in a niche sense

  • @YotaNinja
    @YotaNinja Před 2 lety +7

    When everything was sticking to you and your tools, and you could see the frustration in trying to get things to just lay on the bench, I lost it lol. I learned a lot in this video honestly.

  • @Name-js5uq
    @Name-js5uq Před 2 lety

    This is so cool!I absolutely love this, thank you for showing this to us.

  • @timcuatt1640
    @timcuatt1640 Před 2 lety +5

    A humble thank you for never calling them dampeners.

  • @Dlehnerswe
    @Dlehnerswe Před 2 lety +41

    I've only heard about RotarySMP, but I don't think he's very damp (unless there is some plumbing issues in is house)

  • @scottbruner9987
    @scottbruner9987 Před 2 lety

    I love geeking out on this stuff, just like you do.

  • @brianb6603
    @brianb6603 Před 2 lety

    Excellent as usual!!!

  • @kjsud5546
    @kjsud5546 Před 2 lety +11

    The magic of dampers aside this does bring me back to the swag of the 90's. I worked in marketing for a phone company in those days (don't judge me) and my god did we spend a lot of money on crappy promo items.

  • @mcl12
    @mcl12 Před 2 lety +10

    I remember being a kid and showing that calculator to some friends in a birthday party and everyone being shocked including some of the moms , core memories are a weird thing 😂😂

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian

    Thank you for not dragging it out. Excellent video 👌👏👏👍😀

  • @Enderbro3300
    @Enderbro3300 Před 2 lety +1

    I love your videos like this that are just "hey this is a thing that exists!" It gets added to my brain bank for things I can throw in projects. Thanks!

  • @Loopooo45
    @Loopooo45 Před 2 lety +15

    Came here for rotary dampers awareness week. I'm glad this video is spreading awareness because I've been struggling to find people to celebrate with.

    • @tomadkins2866
      @tomadkins2866 Před 2 lety +4

      Glad to meet you, Shoen! I'm a fan too. I have one (?) on my toilet seat that has amazed me for about the past 6 years. Seriously, I didn't know it had that feature when I bought it. I'll celebrate with you! You bring the liquor.

    • @dismalfist
      @dismalfist Před 2 lety +3

      @@tomadkins2866 I'll bring the toilet seat.

    • @tomadkins2866
      @tomadkins2866 Před 2 lety

      @@dismalfist Damn right, bring your own! :)

  • @MHolt3573
    @MHolt3573 Před 2 lety +4

    I always love when a TOT video pops up.

  • @stefantrethan
    @stefantrethan Před 2 lety

    Yes, these used to fascinate me too as a kid.

  • @Vault57
    @Vault57 Před 2 lety +11

    Great video. It brought to mind my curious youth. My parents couldn't understand my fascination for any mechanical contrivance they threw out or I could drag home. I would take things apart piece by piece examining how they were put together and worked. I think my dragging things home was the most exasperating part. Good thing I never came across an old x-ray unit or something!

    • @somelaser5906
      @somelaser5906 Před rokem

      Good thing you never got your hands on a microwave transformer

  • @SkigBiggler
    @SkigBiggler Před 2 lety +10

    I had one of those calculators when I was younger, it was the coolest damn thing, I’d fiddle with it for hours on end.

  • @scumbaag
    @scumbaag Před 2 lety +9

    Thanks for taking the magic out of my no-slam toilet seat. Much less fun to try and shoot that ever closing gap with a stream of used beer now that i know how it works.
    Great stuff as always, Tony. Love ya and keep it up.

    • @Archgeek0
      @Archgeek0 Před 2 lety

      Gotta return that beer rental!

  • @DAVOinIN
    @DAVOinIN Před 2 lety +2

    Great video. I consider myself to be fairly well versed in cute mechanical solutions, but this was a new one to me. Thanks for the fun and informative video.

  • @aaronarcher2356
    @aaronarcher2356 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks. I also enjoy the company and humor you provide, and us neighbors to the north are happy to call AVE our own! Keep up the cool stuff you do and include us.

  • @Grayson203
    @Grayson203 Před 2 lety +22

    Another tony video to end the weekend. Perfection. I used to have a calculator like that in elementary school and everyone loved it. I felt so cool pulling that thing out

    • @jeffnarum1373
      @jeffnarum1373 Před 2 lety +2

      I have the opposite problem.
      Now I'm trying to create a problem for this solution.

    • @Ben4149
      @Ben4149 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@jeffnarum1373 What is the opposite of a "Damper"? A quickener?
      For a quickener I picture a device that is like those fake cans of Peanut Brittle with spring-loaded 'snakes'.

  • @murillobuono8782
    @murillobuono8782 Před 2 lety +3

    Oh my gosh! I absolutely love your videos! Hello from Brazil!

  • @jolietjohn8024
    @jolietjohn8024 Před 2 lety

    My enthusiasm is neither dampened or subdued by this. This is awesome!

  • @gsus3918
    @gsus3918 Před 2 lety

    I'm so happy that you are uploading often again!

  • @mattdonar6672
    @mattdonar6672 Před 2 lety +19

    The goop reminds me of "assembly fluid" that I've seen used at work for keeping o rings and such in place. The only thing that cuts it is engine oil.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 Před 2 lety

      I've always used Vaseline (Petroleum Jelly) for that assembly goop, and it seems to melt OK in Oil and Auto Transmission Fluid.

  • @OmnieStar
    @OmnieStar Před 2 lety +18

    Glad we get more Tony! Thank you soooooo much for uploading again n_n Iv re-watched all your videos at least 3 times now LOL The reason I wanna get into machining, even as a hobby, is 100% cause of your youtube.

    • @austinthomas6334
      @austinthomas6334 Před 2 lety +4

      I get the same feeling, whenever I see a new video I get super excited. Always quality content and I feel like I'm learning something, if only a series of great dad jokes!

    • @nefariousyawn
      @nefariousyawn Před 2 lety +4

      Whenever I watch one of his videos, CZcams recommends another of his videos that I've already seen, and I think "okay, I guess I'll watch one of these videos for the 3rd or 4th time." I'm not complaining.

    • @austinthomas6334
      @austinthomas6334 Před 2 lety +3

      @@nefariousyawn I like the big ol playlist on the channel so I can just continuously watch through.

    • @OmnieStar
      @OmnieStar Před 2 lety

      @@nefariousyawn yuuuup lol

  • @coreychurch6868
    @coreychurch6868 Před 2 lety

    love these types of videos

  • @paulhardy77
    @paulhardy77 Před 2 lety

    Thanks man . I appreciate what you do . I am not super technically minded but I have loved learning how things work and are made . Thank you

  • @michaelmechex
    @michaelmechex Před 2 lety +5

    I had no idea how these work, thank you for getting all sticky for me! I was kinda hoping to see that cool trial bike of yours when it came to linear dampers, but oh well. Their use is the most clear on rc cars, on simple springs they bounce all over the place, but add dampers and they soak up all the bumps nicely.

  • @WickedTools
    @WickedTools Před 2 lety +6

    It's a good day when you see Tony's video in the sub box 🤩

  • @Felix-bj9et
    @Felix-bj9et Před 2 lety

    oh great, I had one of these as a kid, loved it!

  • @brianembrey5973
    @brianembrey5973 Před 2 lety +1

    Comment off the cuff: Of all the YT channels I watch, yours is the only one I genuinely get excited about when I receive the notification of a new video. Thank you Tony for all the years of education and entertainment.

  • @UnderfundedScientist
    @UnderfundedScientist Před 2 lety +3

    I had that same little thing growing up and it blew my mind

  • @OlivierVerdier
    @OlivierVerdier Před 2 lety +5

    I also enjoyed your company, Thanks Tony

  •  Před 2 lety

    I love this format too

  • @PatRClarke
    @PatRClarke Před 2 lety +2

    As someone who has a few electo mechanical devises I tinker with (typewriters, mechanical calculators, film projectors, etc) this was incredibly illuminating! Thanks Tony! This really helps understand the relationship between moving parts and their "lubrication" and how that can be used to regulate the motion in different ways, other than the standard friction reduction capacity.

  • @IanSlothieRolfe
    @IanSlothieRolfe Před 2 lety +12

    The goop reminds me a lot of some silicon locking grease I got in a box of radio service parts back in the 80's - it was used to stop the fer rite cores moving in the tuning coils of radios, I expect it was extremely cheap so it got repurposed here! I also recall how it got everywhere, didn't wash off and when it leaked it didn't dry out, even when I discovered the leaky patch again 10 years later at the back of a dusty garage, so its clearly a well designed compound!

    • @SW-ii5gg
      @SW-ii5gg Před 2 lety +1

      It looked like it once was a waste product that was given a purpose.

    • @RobertWardJones
      @RobertWardJones Před rokem

      Looks like the goop used in sticky traps for pests.

  • @HomelabExtreme
    @HomelabExtreme Před 2 lety +3

    As a kid, i loved the cassette dampers, they were using a gearing to spin a little metal plate really fast, effectively using the air resistance as the damping medium.

  • @r4dios1lence92
    @r4dios1lence92 Před 2 lety

    Thanks to you, the 20 year long question I had about those that even an engineering degree didn't answer was answered at last! And what a smart & simple design! (although I completely forgot about them during grad)
    Thanks!

  • @creswick
    @creswick Před 2 lety

    I love this these videos! I could watch you talk about obscure mechanical components for hours on end.
    Even more hours, that is.
    Probably days at this point.
    Eventually, I should talk to someone, but for now, I appreciate that you're helping feed my habit.

  • @mattiloponen92
    @mattiloponen92 Před 2 lety +3

    I had that grey clock thingy when i was a kid. It was amazing. It was my grannys but i was so intrigued by it that she gave it to me. This was probably 20 years ago.

  • @rmanders
    @rmanders Před 2 lety +6

    I once worked at a place that made plastic stadium seats and they used the same spring and goop dampers you have there in the hinges, just a big bigger. They literally painted the goop on with a brush when they assembled them, properly low tech stuff.

  • @pianoanime
    @pianoanime Před 2 lety

    Loving that the opening theme music plays whenever you open the device, even softly in the background as you talk about it.

  • @xxvikingwarrior
    @xxvikingwarrior Před 2 lety

    Dude that synth riff is so amazing, epic, and addictive! Oh and love your stuff man!

  • @Ryan-be8jf
    @Ryan-be8jf Před 2 lety +15

    We just had this same conversation in the truck the other day, talking about the grab handles,one of the best engineered pieces of the whole damn 3500hd

    • @jeffreyhill1011
      @jeffreyhill1011 Před 2 lety +2

      Totally unrelated to the video but why did it take pick up manufacturers so fucking long to include some form of assistance to climb into the bed of trucks? Ford I know for sure and maybe the others have a step and handle "thingy" (sorry to use such technical jargon) and damn it it's so much easier and at the end of a long day your knees and back are much happier

    • @geraldgepes
      @geraldgepes Před 2 lety +1

      @@jeffreyhill1011 Okay but, can we have the honest conversation here as well? I feel like truck design has consistently pushed for higher and higher stock ride height for the past 20-30 years (perhaps more?). Jumping in the back of an old C-K truck with good rear shocks is a non-issue (granted, I'm 6'3" but, it stills seem substantially lower than modern counterparts). It's honestly to the point where I'd debate on lowering a brand new 3/4 ton if I could afford one lol.

    • @jeffreyhill1011
      @jeffreyhill1011 Před 2 lety +1

      @@geraldgepes also, *WHY* the actual *FUCK* are the bed sides getting so tall as well? It's seriously absurd. I can't think of a good reason. I can think of a bad one, perhaps not wanting to lower the average height of the truck. All this shit talking aside, I'm still getting the new lightning. God knows how long it's going to take but mine is already paid for so we shall see

    • @geraldgepes
      @geraldgepes Před 2 lety

      @@jeffreyhill1011 I think higher bed sides likely are an aesthetic choice for the most part, to maintain proportionality respective to the higher ride height without a bed that is reminiscent of a Courier or Rabbit truck. That or the higher bed has some ascribed cargo height it is trying to cover like an 8' bed fitting sheets of plywood and such. Aye, enjoy the new Lightning though, I'm working on some R&D stuff for new stators and tooling up to make stators for that truck next week!
      Which gets to the bigger, more painful question about trucks for me. I am a die hard Jetta TDI driver and was even more so when I thought it was better for the planet. I loved my diesel pick up because I could still get 20mpg with a lathe in the bed. But short of a 6.7 just falling into my lap (and me surviving), I'm not sure I want to spend diesel money when they seem to be going under. I'm legitimately curious what is going to happen in the heavy duty/ 3/4 ton sector in the next 10 years. But, this is me waxing rhapsodic because I can't *currently* justify it. In another year though, there will be a horse and trailer to pull on top of equipment and then I think pragmatism will take over.

    • @jeffreyhill1011
      @jeffreyhill1011 Před 2 lety +1

      @@geraldgepes I bought an older Dodge 5500 5th wheel chassis with no bed just the 5th wheel slot. Got a really nice trailer that can hold my 2019 Cat 990 H and JLG 1055 telehandler no issues (individually of course). I have a bit more than 6K acres outside St Louis,my daughters and I just got done digging and are about ready to start filling our 8 acre reservoir lake from our natural spring. I won a high 8 figure lotto and opposed to being bored I figured I would buy some really sweet toys lol. My daughters, now 18 started a resaw business at 15. Obviously not because of money but they wanted to do something and they adore wood working. I taught um fabrication and welding and machining as well but their resaw and custom milled lumber is huge now. They bought a brand new 12 mile F250 King Ranch they are making so much money. My only real splurge was a Bell 525 helicopter and the lessons to fly it myself, I know this sounds braggy but damn I always wanted a chopper so much lol.

  • @Sam-m04
    @Sam-m04 Před 2 lety +5

    You just sent a few memories my way, 7 years ago I had the same calculator- different branding. Was a promotional one, I got it in a charity shop. I do not know what happened it, but that was the coolest calculator I have ever seen

    • @OutOfNamesToChoose
      @OutOfNamesToChoose Před 2 lety +1

      Same here. To me back then, it was magic! Unfortunately, I also lost mine a long time ago

  • @mr.miniaturesmodels8465
    @mr.miniaturesmodels8465 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for doing this video! I remember you mentioning doing one in a previous video and wanted input on whether or not to do one. I’m really glad you did!
    You are right; those gimmick calculators are near impossible to find nowadays. I’ve been wanting to pull one apart to see how these were made for a project of mine but can’t for the life of me find one.
    Thank you for taking one for the team and discovering the goop in the springs that’s resilient to washing off. Now I know and can maybe replicate one for my own use. Hopefully, you are able to reassemble your vintage calculator.

  • @brantonbeall9061
    @brantonbeall9061 Před 2 lety

    Gave me a simple solution to a problem I have right now as well. Thanks Tony! Really glad you’re back!

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 Před 2 lety +11

    Diapers ...what a drag indeed! I was hoping it would be a few more years before we got this video.
    What? Dampers? Oh, never mind.
    Note: Most of the dampers used on cassette decks used the viscosity of air to do the work. Usually, a gear near the hinge would attempt to turn a worm gear at supersonic speed. That worm gear was connected to the worlds tiniest propeller which would send a cooling burst of air into the case unsettling the dust which would then fall on the read and write heads where it could do the most damage to your magnetic tape.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 Před 2 lety +3

      Hence the popularity of paleo-emo band Head Cleaner

    • @crashdoctor
      @crashdoctor Před 2 lety

      @@williamchamberlain2263 short albums, but subtle and deep - never the same though after their falling out with support act Dichlorodifluoromethane in 1995... Good times.

  • @Sn0wZer0
    @Sn0wZer0 Před 2 lety +14

    FYI: "Most aromatic (ring structure) solvents are effective at dissolving silicone oil. These include toluene, xylene and naphtha. Additionally, silicone oils are reported to be soluble in chlorinated solvents such as trichloroethylene, perchloroethylene and methylene chloride. Polar solvents such as alcohols and acetone will not be effective at dissolving silicone oils."
    (I would post the source but that results in the comment getting removed as spam; you can find the above quote with Google)
    The above matches what I found experimentally when I was working with high-CST silicone oil on a project a few years back.
    Also the timing of this video is really funny for me. A week or two ago I had to take apart a car phone holder because the springs has weakened and the rotary dampers were now making it take 5+ seconds to open. Very dramatic and cool looking, but really annoying to wait for when you hopped in the car and wanted to get going. So I opened it up and mixed in some less viscous silicone oil, ending with a less fancy looking but more functional phone mount which opens in 1/2 second.

  • @edtsch
    @edtsch Před 2 lety

    I think maybe every one of your videos has a laugh out loud moment for me. Thanks for that!

  • @scootergem
    @scootergem Před 2 lety

    Thanks for showing.

  • @ZorMonkey
    @ZorMonkey Před 2 lety +18

    Back 100 years ago I bought a boom box based on how smoothly the cassette door opened. I guess I'm a rotary damper snob

  • @el737rs
    @el737rs Před 2 lety +3

    Keep ‘em coming, ToT 🙂

  • @richardconnor2871
    @richardconnor2871 Před 2 lety

    Oh man, the intro to this video was hilarious XD
    Fun dive into how these work, too! Thanks for sharing.

  • @ravikattakwal4960
    @ravikattakwal4960 Před 2 lety

    Thanks a lot. I was looking this kind of mechanism for one of my project.

  • @hansangb
    @hansangb Před 2 lety +3

    This Old Tony...You can make anything funny, entertaining and educational! Thanks for all the hard work. I think this may just be the ticket for a throttle I'm trying to make for a flight sim. No! it's *NOT* for a game...it's for a SIMULATOR (me to my wife, every time I fire up the game....D'OH!! simulator!)

  • @fishdisc7022
    @fishdisc7022 Před 2 lety +7

    Linear dampers can use air pressure. Make a piston with seals and have a small hole at the bottom of the tube. Piston can only move as fast as the air can get thru the hole

    • @RealCadde
      @RealCadde Před 2 lety +1

      You can also make an air spring... The problem is that air is compressible and oils/silicone aren't.
      You can also ignite stuff by compressing air. Consider that before you make one of those as you can accidentally set things on fire when you slam air hard enough.

    • @UltraNoobian
      @UltraNoobian Před 2 lety +1

      @@RealCadde there a video where a guy ignites cotton by slamming a plunger on CZcams. It's pretty cool literal fire in a bottle

  • @FeralPreacher
    @FeralPreacher Před 2 lety

    That is (was) a really neat, self opening, calculator that will never function again.
    Great destructive explanation of how dampers worked before demolition.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @matmaughan6453
    @matmaughan6453 Před 2 lety

    As satisfying as always, thanks TOT.

  • @SirDrinksAlot69
    @SirDrinksAlot69 Před 2 lety +3

    I thought nobody but me observed Rotary Damper Awareness Week, like Scroll Lock Day which falls on November 30th.

  • @gamemeister27
    @gamemeister27 Před 2 lety +11

    I think I've encountered similar goop before in a stress ball. It popped on me while I was in a car, just as we were parking at the mall. I had this horrible sticky gel coating my hands and I had to eventually get it off with paper towels in the bathroom at Macy's. Absolute nightmare.

    • @MrSongib
      @MrSongib Před 2 lety +3

      That's some stress relief from the stress ball. XD

    • @stevenbastian3882
      @stevenbastian3882 Před 2 lety +5

      A leaky stress ball. Talk about a first-world nightmare.

    • @gamemeister27
      @gamemeister27 Před 2 lety +1

      @@stevenbastian3882 I'm sure one of the tortures in hell involves this goop coating your hands and not being able to find anything to get it off

    • @stevenbastian3882
      @stevenbastian3882 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gamemeister27 I hope you end up in heaven. There is probably a helpful solution there.

  • @manofausagain
    @manofausagain Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing. I've had this issue with a machine I made, it was a perpetual motion machine. Now I can finally stop it. Thankyou!

  • @Name-js5uq
    @Name-js5uq Před 2 lety

    Man, thank you so much for this video this is really really helpful and it's shown me a lot so I just want to say thank you so much.

  • @Lvvcassss
    @Lvvcassss Před 2 lety +5

    I always thought the linear ones are similar to car shock absorbers, that is there is an oil and a piston with some sort of hole feature to restrict the flow. The truth was way simpler :)

  • @prozacgod
    @prozacgod Před 2 lety +4

    My mom had acquired a calculator like this when I was a young adult, and I about died laughing about a month or so later, as I saw it repainted and used as some "sci-fi" communicator on a random "made for tv" SciFi Channel show.

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre Před 2 lety

    Thanks for putting a damper on my day Tony! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 Před 2 lety

    GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK...

  • @RunnerPack
    @RunnerPack Před 2 lety +3

    Cool video, but… No mention of one of my favorite toy lines of the 1980s, Coleco's STARCOM?! The vehicles had damped wind-up motors and would “transform” on command, like your calculator thing. They also had steel plates so the magnets in the figures' feet would stick and “defy gravity” 👍

    • @jyvben1520
      @jyvben1520 Před 2 lety

      did you get sticky metal pads with them, defying gravity on plastic/wood ... would not work ...
      or did you just use metal screws

  • @unintentionallyRandom
    @unintentionallyRandom Před 2 lety +3

    Hey!

  • @eatenkate
    @eatenkate Před 2 lety

    You are an absolute gem

  • @babelnumber5
    @babelnumber5 Před 2 lety

    You, sir, have to be top ten most interesting people I can think of. You are awesome! Thanks for the great videos!