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Ned Lagin "Sea Stones" 1975
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- In 1975 Lagin released an album of experimental space music entitled Seastones on Round Records; he described the recording as "Electronic Cybernetic biomusic." He composed this experimental ambient composition over the course of 4 years. It was recorded in just as many studios, mixed at a fifth, and mastered at a sixth-and that's not even counting the additional studios in 1990 where it was mixed and remastered further for CD release. Much of the album consists of traditional instruments (bass, guitar, and voice) and a cadre of synthesizers (the E Modular Synthesizer, or E-mu, various ARPs, and the Buchla Modular System or Buchla digital-polyphonic synthesizer.[1]) processed through then-cutting-edge computer technology, with software and interfacing by Lagin. Said computer technology includes such esoterica as the Interdata 7/16 computer with high speed arithmetic logic unit, a bioelectronic microprocessor system, and the Altair 8800 (which had a whopping 256 bytes of RAM and BASIC by Bill Gates and Paul Allen). The album was one of the first commercially released recordings to feature the use of digital computers. The album was recorded in stereo quadraphonic sound and featured guest performances by members of the Grateful Dead, including Jerry Garcia playing treated guitar and Phil Lesh playing electronic Alembic bass. Members of Jefferson Airplane and CSNY also appear on the album. Seastones was re-released in stereo on CD by Rykodisc in 1991. The CD version includes the original nine-section "Sea Stones" (42:34) from February 1975, and a live, previously unreleased, six-section version (31:05) from December 1975.
Side One
I -- 3:30
II (Vocals) -- 4:02
III A -- 4:38
III B -- 5:36
IV A (Vocals) -- 0:18
IV B (Vocals) -- 2:08
V A -- 0:38
Side Two
V B -- 4:40
VI (Vocals) -- 5:36
VII -- 13:34
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You know we all tripped listening to this
OUTrageous. Interesting how dissociative early pioneers saw electronic music. I, for one, am a fan.
Loved this as a teenager in the 70's. Good ambient sound for reading a book. Oh, and it drives my dog mad.
sea stones...sea's tones...and from the sea manifests the metaphor of consciousness
there's a second version of this ill upload later
Anyone who posts Sea Stones is a bit of all right thanx. Sincerely, eno
I finally found a vinyl copy of this, it's been on my want list for years. I know that the Dead had their experimental moments (most particularly the original mix of "What's Become of the Baby" or the Drums/Space things during their live performances of the late '80s into the 1990s) so I guess I'm not surprised to see Phil Lesh team up with Ned Lagin (and have various Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane/Starship members appear, as well as David Crosby) to create bizarre avant garde electronic. This reminds me of some of that academic avant garde electronic music by Emerson Meyers who released an album in 1970 on the classical Westminster Gold label called Provocative Electronics.
You used to be able to find this in the cutout bins...I used to have multiple copies.
I bought a copy in '80 I was 15 and was into many things my Dad did not know about. My older brother and sister graduated in 74 and 75, I partied with them and their friends from the time I was 12, (1977) not the way for all kids to grow up but I was always ahead of my time so to speak. I have a Space Rock Band now called "Spacelyz Rockit" you can see our videos on my channel. Check out the song "Gamma Ray Burst" it shows the influence this and many other psyc. Space Rock music had on my young musically talented mind! Take care and enjoy life! T.R. on guitar and Synth. Spacelyz Rockit Band.
This brings back memories of the Theta Chi house on the campus of the University of Alabama. Which is in Tuscaloosa. Which is also in Alabama. We all majored in frisbee.. While tripping. Next door to the asylum. Look it up. Not kidding.
Wild! You know I have heard that story before somehow, somewhere, sometime in years past! I don't know how or when, or who but I remember it! Some of the things I have done has create a thick layer of brain fog in my memory. Go to my channel, I have a Space Rock Band, listen to the song "Gamma Ray Burst" let me know what you think. Thanks brother and thanks for the memory where ever it may have come from!
@Dana how cheery
Frat boys in Klan country chucking frisbees at each other while listening to electronic shite. Sounds amazing, man.
I have this on vinyl and I'm currently playing it. Otherworldly, demonic, eerie, unsettling sounds on an ominously blank vinyl that tells you nothing about what it is or who made it. So creepy. It was left in a stash of vinyls I've had for 20 years that I've been holding onto from my dead grandparents. It was mixed in with a plethora of old country, easy listening and rock albums. What a find.
For August West - comment below. They did indeed have the wall of sound with them on the 1974 Euro Tour August. I got into the Ally Pall very early for the shows, and the Dead Crew were putting the final touches to the setting up of the Wall of Sound. There were only a couple of dozen people in the hall at the time. I remember standing/leaning against the front of the stage , staring at the WOS. Bob Weir walked on the stage, took a quick look around at the WOS, spoke briefly to the crew, and walked off again. He said 'hi' to me on his way back and was in a very jaunty mood. Dougie Connor, Edinburgh
Used to listen album a lot in the summer of 1996 when I lived near San Diego and worked at a small pet shop that had no windows and no air conditioning.
I’ll give it a 99….it’s got a good beat and easy to dance to
stoked to find this ... always heard about it, never heard it!
Creepy, otherworldly, awesome stuff.
good for reading sci-fi novels , perfect background, thanks
28:35 liquid quick sun 🌞
Ive been looking for this. THANK YOU!
gosh darn, this is acceptable
LOL
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!
BRAIN!!!!
this is amazing....
I saw this lp way back in 89 at a mall..I was in love with this Dead-related project and its mysterious reputation and artwork.
Jeremy Exline You must've been deadhead , I never listened to dead , But i remember going too san francisco (work) I couldnt believe hippies still existed in (1987?) Serious It was like never changed time capsule unreal, wasnt california golden gate park either, it was area painted graffiti (greatful dead hippie graffiti) i dont know I grew up small town but heavy into 'hendrix'' upon seeing that day was different , Not too mention 'fisherman wharf stores fill with psychedelic t shirts 15 year olds talked about greatfull dead as if new band a generation colorfull more than 20 years before.. Only this time strickly san fransico'' no where else , not los angelos or anywhere Although i could be wrong??. I never seen anything like very creative.
@@dannyhood66 there was a lot of "hippies" in the 80s
in australia there were a lot of freaks around this time, lots of acid and mushrooms, all down the east coast ,from nimbin to melbourne, queensland was a bit of a no go area if you smoked a lot of pot though(joh bjelke-peterson was premier)
Bought the album new when it was released. Cover said Phil Lesh, with help from Stephen Stills, Jerry Garcia, Grace Slick, Mickey Hart etc. They must have helped cleaning the bongs... But I will listen today knowing what to expect. I'll probably love it!
They changed the nitrous tanks
Just listened to it spot on
Don't sell yourself short..
Armadillo!
Baxrter's! Ole!
no man is an island......
i love this. i saw my 200 dead shows. but i really am a fan of music concrete that is, music for the sake of music i love phil he has only been kind to me on the occasions that we met. but this stuff is soooooo fokkin grooooovey
I have the original album in SQ but never played it. Great to be able to listen to the whole thing in one go.
I always loved the art for this album. The puffball running home to share stories of its road adventures with it's family and friends.
Nowadays it’s Covid running home.
@@OthO67 you seriously had to find a way to mention it didn't you?
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Not too serious.. 😁
I love it when art is just ambiguous enough to allow for multiple interpretations. I see a poppin' planet spending a day at the beach. Super cool album cover. Cheers! G
This is pure genius. I wish I could get a CD copy of this or even a lossless file.
You'll probably love the soundtrack to "Forbidden Planet"
I bought album went it first came out in '75. I may have listened to it a couple of times.
It didn't receive any publicity and no ads. I probably bought the only copy available at the
record store. ha I lost the album, leaving it with someone and when I returned to fetch it, it
had gotten ruined. I think I bought it for $ 2.00 originally. Did I mention it was in the discount bin. For a Jefferson A & Dead & friends album. I always knew I was going to be reunited with this record again. It was probably for the good karma of buying a friend a $ 30. dollar Grateful
Dead t-shirt last week.
I went to see the Dead at London's Alexandria Palace in 1975 and, if I remember rightly,some or all of this was played there by Ned Lagin on the night. I have the original album.
was at the same concerts, 1974 actually, and people were getting blown away completely when this was played live during the intermission between the main bands sets
Yes I saw them at the Ally pally September 1974
space iz the place!
Sun Rah
hell yeah.
INSPIRED ALWAYS.
Saw it live at Dillon Stadium!!!
that's rad who else was on the bill? any congruous leads of lost awesomeness? love to know
Ned Lagin idosin' way back when. I gotta few recordings of the Ned & Phil sets of 74...some neat shit!
Hurts me in a good way.
Thanx !
Ahhhh..
nice.
wondrous upload my love
Love this I own the LP
catchy
thx for posting. back in the '70s, i got a free 45rpm sampler of this in the mail 'cuz i was a member of the deadheads. but i couldn't find the LP anywhere, even back then. too bad. would probably have been good to play while we were all trippin'. but my acid droppin' days are over now. maybe if someone did enough acid, they could actually understand the vocals underneath the distortion. it's not 100% original, tho. sounds a lot like the Krell music from the movie "Forbidden Planet" (1956), done w/o computers.
I really wish Ned Lagin had done more music like this. I've always thought this was a great album, and really wish there was more like it, or at least more alternate performances of Seastones available (I think it's one of those pieces that's designed to sound different each time it's played.
If you're looking for something similar to "Seastones," there's an Italian group called Musica Elettronica Viva that you might enjoy. And don't forget Morton Subotnick- he's the granddaddy of electronic weirdshit.
archive . org grateful dead concerts from 1974 , many have seastones and they are all different. i can recommend 10-18-74
Ned just released a new 2-CD version of Seastones. You can buy it here: spiritcats.com/store.html. It's really good!
Wow, serendipity, someone in a GD board I read just linked to your PhD thesis. It's on my reading list, very cool stuff. I was like "I know that name from somewhere," lol.
Yes! Apparently there is/was way more material, and the album was never supposed to be a definitive version. Lagin considers Seastones a “mobile form”, intended for a technology that didn’t exist at the time : shuffle play. Each track is its own “sound object”. ✌🏼
Seastones. I made a comp of e very seastones perforformance... mance... ance..
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What an interesting chapter of grateful dead "experimental" output
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Ned Lagin birthday jam 1975-03-17
Check out this recording of David Gans talking with Ned about his time meeting with the Dead and eventually performing with them Live touring in 1974 with the Wall of Sound System!
Sirius Radio just had the 9/21/74 last Europe Show on and it started out with Sea Stones. It was really intense. I knew it was Phil but completely forgot about Ned and the whole sea stone experience. Then of course Bob wondered in, Then you can hear Jerry, Then Billy then they played on. I'm trying to imagine if they had the wall with them in Europe but I have too look that up. That was two truck loads of equipment to bring to every show, They had to stop due to fuel prices and the lack of same
Jerry must have used Lagins stuff for the first part of the intro animation for the Grateful Dead Movie. "Cosmic Pinball", that's what I always called that
That music is off of Jerry's first solo album.
@@fentonjames Definitely some influence in there though no doubt
unreal
as a long-time electronica fan who's best mate is a deadhead, i've been curious about this album for many years. i keep nagging my mate to play / burn me some and he never does... although i've got a fucking impressive stack of boots from all eras nowadays. glad to finally stumble across this!
i can imagine it being pretty mind-blowing at the time, but many artists have done similar and (possibly) better since. nevertheless: a great piece. where is Ned Lagin now?
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Check out this recording of David Gans talking with Ned about his time meeting with the Dead and eventually performing with them Live touring in 1974 with the Wall of Sound System!
I believe I like the idea of this record far more than the actual execution. I used to own a vinyl copy, but I hardly ever played it. I enjoy ambient music, like Fripp and Eno, and some other things, but I think there is a lot to be said for the triumph of composition over gadgets. To my ear this sounds like a stoned fascination with the weirdness of it all, without much in the way of actual musicality. The kind of thing me and my friends might have once made playing with effects pedals and such. More fun to make than to listen to.
I think if you understood the harsh noise genre youd have a better appreciation of this. This isnt supposed to be ambient ‘music’ like brian eno
Based
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Is it true that this album will help house plants grow?
Absoulutely!
I'm trying it now
im scared
With regard to my comment below, I think the Ally Pally shows were in 1974. They played three utterly amazing nights there.I think at least one of the shows appears on a Dick's Picks release. It has some of Seastones on it. Best Regards- Dougie Connor, Edinburgh, Scotland.
it was a compilation from all three nights, but sadly did not include any of the Phil/Ned duets
Dick's Picks Volume 12 has a not-quite five minute version from June of '74.
That's presumably what you're thinking of.
Note: Seastones _was_ played at the '74 London Alexandria Palace shows; just wasn't included on that particular release.
Such great music deserves attention.
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Was this meant to follow 'What's Become Of The Baby' from 'Aoxomoxoa' or pre-date 'Infrared Roses'? It seems to be in that ine....
I don't think it has anything to do with either of those pieces, apart from the fact that it's a piece of experimental music. It's basically the work of a musician named Ned Lagin, with help from Jerry, Phil, etc.
What’s Become Of The Baby HAD to either inspire the beginning of this. I was just sitting here thinking about it as well.
There has to be some level of inspiration, the beginning part of this sounds almost identical to WBOTB. Definitely shaking hands with it.
I wouldn't doubt this was inspired by "What's Become of the Baby". BTW, I own the original green W7 Warner label of Aoxomoxoa and trust me, the original mix of said track is so much more eerie and effective than the remixed version (the remixed version removed all those eerie sound effects and reduced it to just Jerry Garcia's modified voice, and that version is just plain boring).
@@Miler97487 i rekon the original mix is better all round, I freaked when i first heard the remixed one didnt have that bit at the end of doin that rag...sounds weird when you are used to the original
I went to the land of the hole
Scarred for life….
i believe there are spoken lines in here from finnegans wake. can anyone help locate the segment?
The lyrical content is printed on the LP sleeve. Poetry concrete, or similar, as it goes.
My best "prankster" best friend put this on while peaking. Brain was boiling, this was a bucket of ice. Strangely enough. Ahhhh ---- edit:Great Arti-fact and post card
Dude... Your profile picture.. I literally am about to listen to that album.. Synchronicites aint no coincidence!!!!!
Sounds like Grace may be on this.
She is
Any recomendation simililar to this album?
Electronic Sound, an early George Harrison solo album
Morton Subotnick - Sidewinder
Ruth White - Flowers Of Evil
Checkout Ned's new 2-CD version of Seastones: spiritcats.com/seastones.html. It's really good!
TANGERINE DREAM - ZEIT
Anything by Biosphere (Geir Jenssen)
Is this from the LP or the CD?
It failed commercialy because SQ quadwith' Whaat? Like ,so many album covers back then (early mid 70s underground kraut crust fried crosseyed pcp elephant tranquillized dust ) hidden message , Seriously?, Two words.. so cool, Whatever this album cover just needed some paint black tar pitched spaced mighty brilliant different types of pollution spent waste achieved nothing landing moon was taste 45 years queers, No I.D. no beer , Get out my store , no beer? Spent on space disgrace , humans breed at appalling rates great. . I like it!
I was and still am heavily into electronic music. Heard this when it came out and was not at all impressed. Not much substance or creativity. Just listened to it for the first time in 40 years, my impression is the same.