VFX Artists DEBUNK Bear Attack Videos
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"Bear Attack" videos often go viral online, but how many of these wild encounters are staged using visual effects?
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I LOVE that you bring up Reddit comments that are so confidently incorrect. It's a good reminder that even if someone SOUNDS like they know what they're talking about, you shouldn't blindly believe them. Reddit is chock-full of pseudo experts like this and it's very easy to be mislead.
Idk man punching down on Reddit idiots can make anyone look smart. That’s basically how Ben Shapiro got famous. They should be better than that.
@@meangreen99 They didn't punch down on those that were just wrong, they were mocking the trolls saying it was simple, easy and could be done on old hardware. BTW like the name, apropos for the multiple copypasta comments :D
@@meangreen99 name checks out
@@meangreen99 Bruh, seriously? The redditors are disrespecting all the hard work that goes into creating life-like visual effects. It's normal that they want to show how dumb that mentality is. You're just being cringe right now.
I have three PhDs in internet sociology and I can confirm that the bulk of Reddit assertions are willful confabulations. Source: trust me.
"This is a classic example of someone who THINKS they know what they are talking about because they know a few buzz words" - Wren managed to give an 100% accurate description of preety much all of Reddit in a single sentence.
Yeah true, I am sure that guys who boast like this haven't even opened a single 3d modeling software. They just watch random videos of internet debunking and borrow the buzz words to make people know they are a VFX artist.
His name is spelt Wren btw :)
Yep, yep. That's Reddit in a nutshell. People on there are pretty much what you get when you combine 4chan and Twitter.
Who is Renn?
@@tateparker7782 corrected.
VFX Artists debunking and laughing at fake Bear Attacks while seeing the Reddit comments and immediately telling them they are wrong is what I needed.
That first bear one is completely flawless, not even like a real bear merged with something else, but all in the same shot flawless. That's definitely a tame bear.
Yeah it's a trained bear named Tom
First thing I noticed is the size of the bear. A grizzly (or at least one old enough to hunt) should be at least twice that size. In addition, you can hear the guy make a noise in slow motion but nothing from the bear who would be huffing and puffing like crazy.
If the first one was actually CG it's the best I've ever seen in my life.. I still can't tell.
@@ethanpollock2096It's a tame bear named Tom.
“Bears actually make a much higher pitched growl when they’re running, so this must be fake. My uncle was a bear so I’d know”
I'm here when this blow up (or not)
@@imaraki8489 im here too
You're here Sensei Seth!! Such a small world!!
Sensei Seth is a well known bear-fighting expert
@@LukeCrusher1 explains that video of him tearing down wood
moving on from discussing real bear footage to debunking fake bear footage for comparison was an educational power move. Good job
Pretty basic move.
@@lampad4549 and?
@@greenscreenmovieguy5582 so?
@@lampad4549 you would know since that’s what you are
its just hilarious seeing the commenters explain it, its like the captain d laser video, people pull so much out of their ass
its not dunning kruger levels like you get with flat earth cultists or anti vaxxers where they take a 2nd grade level of knowledge and ignorance and act smart haha, but its still pretty bad
Mad respect to you for mentioning CD here. I have actually found him a few months before you did the first VFX artists react together and had been binge-watching his videos, and to this day I'm astonished about the production quality of this basically one-man-channel, he's like the LockPickingLawyer, you can watch any video and wouldn't know if it was released yesterday or 6 years ago, because production quality has been so high and consistent throughout all those years.
And he goes waaay back as well, like maybe pre-2010. He's the grand-daddy of vfx channels.
@@dk-fk4xmhaha yeah he and Redlettermedia are the two longest running high quality channels that have influenced so many creators but are still relatively small
It took me waaaay to long to realize the "sponsored segment" wasn't the fake bear chase. XD 🤦♂
When the bear started talking I was deceased 😂
My cousin entered a photo of an eagle lifting a lamb out of a farm field to a wildlife photography contest. They received terrible backlash from people calling it fake, claiming that the resolutions for the sheep and eagle were different, they could tell by the pixels and lighting that it is altered, etc etc. Straight up criticisms of dishonesty. Not only have I seen the full sequence of 12 or so photos taken of the event, I also know she sucks at photoshop. People are very willing to hate.
To be fair, the people you should really blame are the people who actually do fake viral videos. People being over-skeptical is almost always a result from having their trust betrayed by liars.
"I also know she sucks at photoshop" I'm sorry but that made me lose it laughing lol
This reminds me, once driving down to my parents' house a hawk dove into the side of the road and flew off right in front of me with some small rodent in its claws. I was amazed by how clear the silhouette was and how much I could parse in the instant it must have taken. I've run into situations a lot where I try to take a photo of something and only then notice how much my brain was compensating. Sense of scale for large trees, or ignoring the surface reflections for fish in a pond, stuff like that.
@@adamsbja Yeah, the brain does Insane "post processing" of what we see, we can compare it to a smartphone, with their relatively bad quality cameras and the software doing a huge job, our eyes aren't anywhere near as sharp as that of an eagle, hawk or whatever, but thx to our big brains we can still see the world in a decent quality, the compromise is our pretty bad "input lag", the world we see is about 50 ms in the past, but its not a big deal since our brain can also compensate the delay and predict movement of things
im so confused, eagles casually lift lambs all the time is it a rare thing for humanity to see?
“This is an example of someone thinking they know what they’re talking about with VFX just cause they know a few buzz words” - as a VFX artist this is the truest thing I’ve ever heard 🤣😂
Also summarizes Reddit pretty well. The place is a cesspit of pseudo-experts.
Yes, but they do use the effect wrong, since the graph is not actually like that.
What it the guy was added later? Shot in the same place same time like in 2 days after and composited over
Cg. Ez.
:Vfx mindset tingles into frustration:
@@4Sandrix there is no way the the drone pilot would be able to get an identical shot the second day, there would always be differences between flying one day and another, the only way that would be possible, would be if they towed out a camera crane in the forest, or a robotic camera arm on a dolly track, but I don't think they would bother doing that, as it would cost alot, and would just not be worth it, like they said in the video, its just a trained bear.
A lot of people on the internet go through the dunning kruger effect. Way lot. Thank you for making this video
Everyone is an expert lol
@@Dhips. everyone is a fucking expert, must be nice
yeah like all of Twitter
A lot of people think they're smart when in reality they aren't.
Also, the internet loves saying "dunning kruger effect."
Something I think would be interesting is if you do a series where people can send in videos they made (obviously fake) and you point out the flaws and technical issues that keep it from being believable. That would be really neat to watch, and could help a lot of VFX students and hobbyists improve their skills in the field.
Take this comment and post it on all their new videos I would love to see this series come to life
Great idea!
I'd love to see a challenge vid of what a crew of professional VFX artists can do to make fake bear footage in 3 hours with old laptops
Damnn that's a good idea😂😂😂
Lol, that would be pretty funny
+1
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@@user-iz6nn9tm3f bro what????
“It is often easier to believe something is fake than to accept that (someone else’s) life is crazier than you thought possible” seems very applicable.
Same with skills. I've seen way too many videos of people doing some amazing things, only for some wiseguy to take a dump on it, calling it fake or saying, Yeah I can do that if I try it a billion times 😂
@@gizmonomono I always thought of "Yeah, I can do that.... If I make a million attempts" comments as jokes, I don't think I've seen any actual criticism of a video in that form.
@@animowany111 It's all about the wording. I've seen plenty of both jokes and just people being assholes 😂
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@@user-iz6nn9tm3f no
Maybe its just me but something about how bears move in real life is amazingly specific, just how fast they move for something their size, in addition to how the muscle, fat and, fur ripple just feels unique from most other animals and I feel like that makes animation of a bear that much harder than literally any other animal
I love how you bring up Dunning-Krueger. If I were not a public policy professional, I would love to be a gfx artist as I know some of which is essential, but not enough to work in the industry. Thank you for your content.
Please PLEASE keep VFX artists Debunk as a series because this more indepth longer looks at like micro bites of pieces like this or the UFO videos are so cool and really fun and fascinating to watch and learn from.
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If they do, maybe collab with Captain Disillusion!
(Animal Science degree here) It is hard to tell based on just a few seconds of footage, but I'd have to assume the person 'running' from the bear is probably the trainer. The bear's run looks more like a leisurely jog compared to its top speed, which is WAY faster than that. If the bear really wanted to harm the guy, its head would be down & it'd be digging more aggressively into the ground with each step. Generally speaking its body language is more playful than aggressive.
Yes, it's more of a casual jog than chasing down prey.
not sure if your the one I should ask but do you think the screaming is something that was in the video originally or something in post
@@scraberdash4286 I'd imagine it's purely a post element, no real need for the trainer to be screaming at the bear.
@@scraberdash4286 Clearly post, if he was shouting that loudly in the woods, his voice would echo off the trees.
And bears can outrun humans. Running straight away from a bear is the first thing you are told not to do. Some of them can run up to 35 mph, and running makes them think you are prey.
Do bears put their tongues out when playful jogging or do only dogs do that?
Content is amazing,You guys are great together.Glad I found this channel.
Honestly a search for the word debunk is what brought me to your channel, so good job, it worked.
I work with bears at a wildlife rescue, they are creatures i know like to play making the first clip very possible if you had it well raised and was trained... and also you probably wouldn't outrun one if you actually had it chasing you
That I think is the biggest tell. When you look at 4-legged animals average and top speeds they can easily catch up to most humans. If they were being chased, I think it would end quickly.
Reminds me of videos of cheetahs 'hunting' dumb tourists getting out of cars. You would KNOW if a cheetah is serious about eating you because it would be outrunning Usain Bolt. If they trot over to you like a horse they are just being curious. They're not the sort of animal to randomly bite you either. I can confidently say this because in my work at a wildlife rehabilitation centre these completely wild cheetahs would happily come invesitage your scent while you pick up their poop.
Aren't bears able to run at like 30mph?
I could totally outrun it, I could just climb a tree because bears don't climb trees I know this because I am a professional bear escaping tree climber
Right? My thoughts were, 'You're not outrunning a bear, and this bear seems to be trotting along pretty casually. the only situation where you might see that is it there's cubs & she's just trying to scare you off vs attacking." This is definitely real but it's also very likely staged.
Snopes has changed their conclusion to the video to *true.* The producer (Dima Smirnov) has contacted them to clarify the origin of the video. The bears name is Tom. He is trained by humans from birth.
The only thing he has changed was the sound of the video, because of the problems drones can cause recording audio.
we did it ya'll!
Please pin this someone!
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Just because it isn't CGI didn't mean it isn't "fake".
1:18 somebody: *chased by real bear
Corridor crew: we're impressed
Think i found my new favorite YT channel these guys have great chemistry and knowledgeable
The bear was also “jogging”, not chasing that person down
that's a good point. a bear could easily run down a man.
Yeah, they can run 35mph. If that bear wanted them dead, they would be dead.
That’s why probably the guy is fake. (Or added later from another footage. Perhaps on the same location but another time)
It aas Russia bears are bff of human
@@lltv8142 Did you even watch the video? lol
I love the spite/mockery in your voices about those "it's easy" comments. As someone who hears those things a lot of the time it gives me vindication.
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@@user-iz6nn9tm3f Sixty Nine
Yeah I hate those people.theyre everywhere too. "Playing an instrument doesnt take any talent. I could do that easily" etc.
So many things are "easy" according to people who are completely incapable of doing them. Back in the day, I'd hear people disparaging realist artists (painters) as not being true artists because "anyone could do that" and "if you want a realistic rendering, you might as well just take a photograph" - because, y'know, photography's not art either and anyone can do it easily.
And of course, they're never going to put their money where their mouths are and actually *demonstrate* how "easy" these things are because - you know - such easy things are "beneath them" so you just have to take their word for it...
I admit before properly studying art i used to have those thoughts too, that photog has "cheats" because you can take a lot of photos, that digital art is easy because you have unlimited erasures, etc. But after going through art school and being exposed to almost every discipline (including music design and even fashion!) I was shown my place to say the least. And while i don't necessarily want people to get humiliated, i do think some need to get humbled quite a bit.
this is the most casual use of orange and teal i've ever seen on a youtube video and honestly pretty f ing nice
This is becoming a series, and I couldn’t be happier
Yessss! At last, they are roasting the armchair experts in the comments. Get 'em!
I'm grabbing the popcorn.
get 'em!!
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@@user-iz6nn9tm3f Weirdo...
ikr its so cringe
Snopes apparently received an email with proof that the drone shot was real. It was a trained bear named Tom. Snopes changed their article to True a couple days before CC posted this video (but ofc after they had produced it).
So a nobody out fact check a fact checker? Not a good look.
@@Pandaxtor I believe the email was from someone directly involved in caring for the bear.
That was going to be my guess. Real bear, fake danger.
well the mentioned it in the video lol
@@darrennew8211 At long last one gets it!
One of my favorite videos on the channel.
(though I watched all of them twice-thrice)
Please do more Debunking Brothers!!
I'm surprised Corridor didn't even mention the amount of work that would have to go into camera tracking that first shot
When you see claims like "It could be done in an hour on a potato!" You should try to replicate the shot in an hour on your worst computer just to show what that amount of effort would actually look like when done by a professional, let alone some random internet denizen.
Took me 6hours just to make a decent blender character
those who claim it can be done in hour are the type of guys who take an hour to spawn a sphere, a.k.a those who haven't touched a VFX software in their life.
You also need to take into account that most bears can easily outrun humans, which is why you’re not supposed to run away from a bear if it attacks
They also say if there is more than one of you running from a bear you just need to be faster than the slowest person lol
then what am i supposed to do???
@@J33zas Well in the 5 mins of life you are left with, maybe ponder over your life choices or maybe remember your loved ones, i dont know, its your call
@@irtezaahmed4554 also try to maneuver your neck into its mouth so it takes less than 5 minutes
@@J33zas If you can't scare the bear away by yelling and raising your arms to make yourself look bigger, then you drop to the ground, play dead, and try to protect your vitals. If you manage to stay silent and still throughout the mauling, the bear might lose interest and leave. That's your best and only play.
I love the plug for Skepticism and Capt. Disillusion! :)
You guys are always hilarious. Great vid.
Thanks for the fun video! At 8:02 the Dunning-Kruger Effect is super helpful and including segments like that is another reason why I love to watch your vids :) Hey did you know that if you rotate this chart 180° and talk about the relationship of familiarity to human likeness, then you have the Uncanny Valley. Which would be an amazing next video for you guys!!
Don't have any experience with video effects, but I do have experience with bears (veterinarian at a wildlife sanctuary that houses a few). Given that the bear is jogging and not running full out after the person, that the bear can be distracted by the drone vs having single-minded focus on the thing that it supposedly wants to murder, and the fact that, after slowing down/stopping as the drone flies by, it looks back the direction it was going and then starts jogging again in a motion very similar to a dog being called back to the owner during a game of fetch vs just wandering off once it is distracted enough to stop charging all makes it highly suspicious that the video is faked via a trained bear. Also, there is my personal bugaboo with this type of supposed "real life caught on drone" videos: The drone just HAPPENS to swoop cinematically in on a random person running away from a "charging" bear; action already in progress.
Oh yeah it was totally a trained bear and owner being shot for cool video purposes, the guy didnt look remotely scared, he looked back like you do when you're play-chasing with a pet, I dont think they mean its "real raw wild footage" they just mean it aint vfx
your right, the snopes artical that said it was fake was updated 4 days ago and has proof it's real. the guy showed the full video unedited with proof the bear was trained. BTW the bears name is Tom
question, do trained pet bears hibernate?
Nailed it
Also, this is a rather "small" bear, compared to a full size black bear, a grizzly or even a brown bear. This could very well be a youngling black bear, hand fed and trained - it just would behave like a dog. And just like a dog, you stand no chance to outrun one of them - they get very, very fast. If this bear wants to catch you, its gotta catch you.
"Video clips just don't upload themselves for the internet. Somebody consciously produced and delivered this clip online."
Thank you Niko for saying this.
Iv been watching a lot of corridor crew visual artist reacts (fight scenes breakdown) and it has changed my taste and perspective in movie fight scenes completely, the moment i see mutiple cuts between actor's/stuntmen's moves, it literally just makes me lose interest. After reaction videos of fight scenes breakdown from you guys, i love and appreciate long shots that consists of well practiced fight choreography executed during the entire scene, and also keeping viewers clear ideas of who is throwing punches and kicks, who is in which direction, from what angle did the fight action start and where its heading.
Seeing a bunch of cuts in fight scenes throws me off the focus and there is just confusion along with the realisation that the fights were not interesting at all, and it seemed like a high speed action but its just camera work.
Thankyou corridor crew for enlightening us viewers.
Love the educational angle you start taking with your latest vids. Way to go! Schools should start using them to educate Media Literacy. Especially in times of "Fake News" and digital "reproducability" (is that even a word?).
I am a veteran guide (rookie year '96) in Bristol Bay AK, and have had more than my share of bear encounters. (I ran into Timothy Treadwell on the Katmai coast before he was killed- yeah, Grizzly Man.) Real experience with real bears helps. I completely agree with the assessment of the videos- the first one has a bear that moves like a bear- often it takes a moment for the back end to catch up to the front end when they get distracted. By itself makes V1 real.
The guy was running with a hand in a pocket. If you're running for your life you would not do that. My bet is that they are friends. Other issue is that the guy looked back at the bear when he had the drone right in front of him... those things buzz pretty loud, your attention would draw right into it. Dunno. Seems like the only thing added was the sound.
@@Leongon Video is staged, but not CGI. A lot of other comments are talking about the use of a trained bear and how based on the way the bear is moving it's not actually aggressively chasing, more so this was likely the bear's handler taking it for a run and they decided to get some cool drone footage.
@@Leongon The whole video doesn't make sense. Guy running casually? Drone just happens to fly by in the exact moment? No information on the entire video about why, who or what? Yeah, it is staged, 99.99%, but I'm not a bear expert to claim how well bears can be trained to act in this way (fake chase?). Great shot though, I just wish people would be more upfront about what their videos actually contain, since this stuff tends to spread like wild fires. Hint: Don't run away from a bear and don't climb a tree, unless you know this particular breed of bears doesn't climb trees, I guess. At least that's what I learned...you can't outrun a bear, you can't fight a bear, you can't escape a bear. You just move away slowly without turning your back and play dead and hope for the best if it comes after you. But maybe that's already outdated info...thank god there are no bears in my country ... only stupid boars that I have also never seen ... luckily.
@@Diree No bears in my country either, but I know Black Bears are the ones that are ridiculously good at climbing trees, which seems to be the one in that video. Also pretty much any animal can be friendly and go for a job with you if you raised it or managed to befriend it and understand their body language to know when they don't want you close. There are shark experts that can tell when a wild one is coming close from pure curiosity and when is hunting, and they do enjoy being pet, so the guy being friends with that bear is actually the simplest explanation ;D
No doubt the bear is real but the bear isn't acting like a wild bear.
I like how they all took a quick second to laugh in the faces of the people who think this is easy right at the end there. You could just feel it, haha
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Love the Neature Walk reference at 0:43
17:54 I love Corridor Crew, and I'm also so happy for that Captain Disillusion shoutout.
i see so many comments about how "easy" vfx is and i'm glad you guys made that point
Since discovering the Crew, I have started to look at movies and shows in an entirely different light. I feel I can enjoy them way more now knowing so much more about digital and practical effects, stunts, and animation. It's entirely possible that there are many others who are experiencing the exact same thing. You guys have had a very "special effect" on the entire world of cinema. ;)
Sadly "plots" are still bland. To the point you can predict beginning middle and end of 95% of all movies lol. Even ones that are supposed to "make you think"
@@acidpoptart4270 Not all of them tho, maybe just the ones you choose to watch
@@LuisSierra42 Dude... It's extremely rare to find a movie that doesn't follow a A B C plotline.
Slapstick - "Group looses something/some chaotic situation happens and they gotta go on an adventure to retrieve or get something back"
90% of other comedies "Person/Persons have issue with other character or situation and go out of their way to gain/complete or accomplish said thing" Most comedies have a stupid person that everyone doubts but they accomplish the task out of sheer stern commitment.
Romances - Either love life that is bad, shit goes down female/male have or get close to having an affair/breaking up. Isolation without anyone both people realize how much they miss each other, events happen they see the pros in each other again back together. Happy ending
Action - Badass/Multiple badasses Boom boom action plot, guy or guys set out to win some shit somehow some way, battles, (action is pretty self explanatory)
I can keep rollin but theres too many genres/subgenres to lay out but you get the point. They really do follow all the same plots. Humans don't lack creativity but Humans don't like change, and majority of the average joe likes to keep things the same, they much rather prefer to watch the same shit. (Programs/Programming) Literally lol. So many subliminal shit that is so low key within shows/movies too to program societal ideologies. Have you ever tried to talk on the phone with someone whos watching TV at the same time? They literally zone out and cant speak lol.
@@LuisSierra42 Not saying ALL movies are like this but the above majority of movies are pretty uncreative for general public. There are few movies out there that are golden though and unique in every way.
@@acidpoptart4270 These are movies that came out just last year and do not conform to known tropes and cliches: Lamb, Zola, Judas and the black Messiah, Spencer, Pig and The Power of the Dog and these are just the ones i've seen. There's also petite maman and Titane which i've not seen yet
the sponsored segment is really over the top this time haha, good job always making them fresh and untertaining!
About shadows, I'd like to challenge the Corridor Crew to setup a few real examples of lights and objects and see when shadows really overlap instead of only merging. Maybe Wren could make one of his awesome nerdy science videos exploring this and actually produce real examples of overlapping shadows. This would help to better educate viewers of how light really works, I think.
Another thing, funny how Captain Disillusion in his first video in 2007 used this "merging shadow" argument to help debunk the penguin slap clip. Maybe Corridor could try to replicate a real set inspired on that and use real light sources to determine if they can or can not make shadows overlap instead of only merging.
Shadow can be over lapped under certain conditions, which atleast need two light sources of different wavelength.
you need to hire that guy who can do that video in 3 hours on an old laptop lol😅
its an old laptop from the future i guess
@@ogdraws_6919 even with a new laptop, to do that in 3 hours...
"It's good that people are learning about VFX but just a reminder... it's still very very hard"
Respect
Great vid, fam
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I loved the fact that you brought up the Dunning Kruger effect...
Even the sponsored segment is unskippsble 😂 Jake does a great job, was that a Wookie making the bear noises though???!!!🤣🤣🤣
When you guys mentioned being skeptical about videos on the internet, the first person to come to mind was Captain D, and man would it be awesome to see Corridor and CD debunking videos in tandem.
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@@user-iz6nn9tm3f ummm what???
Well you are in luck. They did a VFX Artists react with him sometime in the last year.
Everytime I watch one of your videos I realize how much larger vfx is than I thought. Like I think it's massive and then there motes. You talk about multiple types of motion blur, scattering of light in snow vs other objects, shadows being replaced, the king kong bit about the feedback loop. There's just so much. Always interesting.
Good on them for calling out ''fake sceptics'' who are just sceptical about absolutely everything and think they are smart because of it.
Thank you for this. The only thing I wasn't totally sure on when i first viewed it was the snow. It kinda looked like wet pack, but the bear clearly kicks up dry pack when he stops (but that's totally possible if it had snowed twice with both types). There also isn't enough to go on in that brief shot to say 100% what it is.
And yes, I am aware Snopes was apparently contacted by the pilot to say it was a trained bear.
I don't know if I could handle the thought of some kid in his room being that good at VFX. Haha
Love this new Debunk show, espacially with people moving in and out of screen, making short comments, it is a wonderful idea in my opinion even if it was clearly not intentional.
There’s a video on a massive crocodile or Alligator , on a golf course, which is real , but the amount of people that called it fake was unbelievable .
they can't imagine how big such a crocodile can become.
i see we have more captain disillusion fans
And then Captain Dissolution made a video where he was obviously joking that it was fake and it still flew over peoples heads.
Super common in some parts of South Africa. Some golf courses are on river deltas or incorporated into marshland because you get the greenest grass with the least irrigation there. The crocs just love the nice ponds scattered across the course, and they get plenty of food from the large birds like ducks that live there.
@@Craftlngo look up Gustave the Nile Crocodile. That golf course alligator has nothing on Gustave. It's just a snack for Gustave.
I often skip the sponsor segments but this, this is some golden advertisement lmfao
the debunk series is very fun to watch. Can you guys react to the nuke's top 5 ghosts captured in camera, please
I love Captain D but he doesn't post enough to fulfill my debunking appetite. I'm so happy you guys are doing this stuff and referring to his channel as well.
Love that you guys touched on the Dunning-Kruger effect. Before I started watching your videos, I definitely fell under it's effect when it came to VFX. But I feel well versed enough now after watching all of your breakdown/debunk videos, that I know, there is so much I don't know. And I not only see the skill you guys have for VFX, but also the artistry. Always look forward to my saturdays and sundays for your videos. Amazing stuff.
True. I've come to appreciate VFX far more since I started watching this channel.
The dunning kruger effect doesn't actually exist.
@@cymro8902 Good one
@@Swagbastian it actually doesn't
@@cymro8902 Alright, link your study.
Best sponsors segment EVER!!!!! I really want to check out these shoes now!
Corridor is the only place where i dont skip sponsor segments
Also, it looks like they’ve rehearsed this. The snow is all effed up from trying multiple times. If it was CG, wouldn’t they be running through untouched snow?
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@ItsyaboyAndy yeah, but it could have been a case where they take the most familiar route since they know home's close... That and I feel like the bear can probably run on snow while a human might have trouble, idk
These are such wonderful videos. And in the future I suspect that debunking fake videos, and confirming real ones, will become a massively valuable skill.
Maybe I’m stupid, but I watched the latest episode of the Book of Boba Fett and learning that Luke’s voice was completely artificial was insane. The deep fake was also very well done and my first thought was “oooh, 20 years from now this is gunna be tough”
@@mrmaxmondays not even 20 years from now honestly. Look at where we were 5 years ago compared to today and the technology is just getting better
All bear chase videos are fake, because if you were actually being chased by a bear, you wouldn't be filming it. If you did, it'd catch you. Same for most staged videos. So there's really nothing to debunk or confirm, so much as just analyze and critique, the point Wren makes at the end of the video.
@@mrmaxmondays I read that some time after Disney bought Lucasfilms they brought James Earl Jones in for a recording session where he spoke a long series of words and phrases so they could archive a Siri-like catalog to use for all eternity. I’m guessing Mark Hamill must’ve done the same.
"Don't watch us, watch Captain Dissolusion."
You guys are so cool.
This is just a tip for those into 3D animation: [WARNING this was self-learned/realized so apologies if I'm wrong on some bits]
You should always keep in mind the difference between FRAME LENGTH and FRAME RATE, especially how they relate to video length.
As you are animating frames keep in mind the default 24FPS (at least for blender), if your frame length is 48 the video length would be 2 seconds. However if you were to only have an animation with 24 frames, with each FRAME keyed (for UlTrA sMoOtH boiiii!!) Also keep in mind that your animation might be too short for the buffer to read all frames before playing resulting in freezing/broken frames).
If however you have a super simple animation that's 45 frames, I would recommend using 30FPS for export (to appease the number gods for the P E R F E C T 1.5 second video length), with a keyed distance at every 5th FRAME (unless you like suffering you can do EVERY FRAME but this is NOT RECOMMENDED!!!!!.)
Anyway that's my self-discovered tip.
P.S. CORRIDOR CREW I WOULD APPRECIATE A HEART SO OTHERS CAN READ THIS PLZ BUT ITS OK if you DONT
I love how people watch a few corridor videos, blender tutorials and behind the scenes videos on Blu Ray movies and all of a sudden they're experts in CGI.
These guys have the most powerful eyes and brains to look at the most smallest little details and explain which is CG or real life.
Yeah idk why they’re just punching down on dumb Reddit comments. If you gotta pick on commenters to look good you’re doing something wrong.
@@meangreen99 I can't tell if you're being serious or if you're being a snowflake lmao
Its all about what you are trained to do. They are CG artists, their job is to focus on the small details to make a believable shot. My job as an architect has me analyzing the design and materials of every building I enter. My sister is a biologist and she cant walk 10 feet without identifying a plant or insect next to the path. You naturally focus on what youve trained to focus on. Nothing about powerful brain or eyes, just practiced
When you work in the industry you train your brain to think like that
They're absolutely on point with their observations borne from experience. There are instances however, where common sense should alert us to staged video - for example, the girl skiing down the mountain seemingly oblivipus to a chasing bear would certainly have been using the forward facing camera of her smartphone in order to ensure she was properly in the frame. That's how you do selfies. Thus she would certainly have noticed the bear. No FX XP needed!
I love the Donning-Kreuger effect.
I particularly enjoy when I find myself just on the other edge of it, that moment of resizing both "shit, I don't know this as well as I thought", but also "wow, I got so much more to look forward to".
With a healthy dose of "I should probably apologize to that anonymous user I was arguing with a few days ago about this subject"...
One of the best things about these videos are the sponsored sections that are actually entertaining. Gotta get some Bessi shoes now
I feel like I've learned so much from your videos. The first thing I noticed in the drone shot was the perfect shadows, and the first thing I noticed in the second clip was the mismatched black levels. Thank you for all the knowledge you share!
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I tried to make a pixar-like character in the 3D modelling 101 class I took in college.
It was really really hard. The model took days. The texture mapping was impossible. I seriously lost my mind and it still looked terrible.
And then rigging and animating it was the most difficult part.
People are so dumb. God damn.
Even if you had a pre built bear that you bought, the animation alone would have taken ages. And that's not even taking into account the environment and the camera/perspective change.
3d scan : )
there's this thing called animation software helping you with your animation, all you gotta do is move a part to the next position it should move to and the software will handle all the frames up until that point, then you just go back and edit anything that moves wrong lol
@@nocontext400 ah yes.. and I'm sure it all looks perfectly natural and not like shit at all lol
@@ToneSherpa it actually DOES look pretty decent if you do it right and not just lazily throw it together, you DO still have to do stuff manually, but the software can help you do it faster, i myself am just far too lazy to do that even tho it's really quite simple, it only looks bad if you DON'T go back and correct what the automatic framing did wrong, don't say something if you have no dang clue what the heck you are talking about lol
@@nocontext400 dude. big budget hollywood films can't even make that shit look natural.. I certainly have doubts about your super genius skills in this department.
like I'm gonna hear this shit from a literal r*t*rd on the internet lol
I normally fast-forward 50% of the ads, but this one got my attention. Kudos.
Well, there was no fake bear. Lol
Okay making the sponsor part the actual example is stupidly awesome!
Props to Jake. I watched the whole video sponsor segment this time (I usually skip) and it was legitimately worth it. It was so funny.
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Yea, I didn't expect the subconscious "Bear" guy to talk to Jake.
"Hi, I'm bear", like wtf xd
In the old days of youtubev (like maybe 2010) that sponsor segment alone would work as a full viral video😂
These are what sponsors should be like, not just a screen with scrolling and a background voice, it has to be like entertaining, informative, and most importantly keeping the viewers alive
I love how logical they are and somehow still make it entertaining! But after all this time watching their videos i guess i shouldn't be surprised
YEEAH. So technical and yet fun
Clever, educated, friendly observations and logically formed conclusions are great! I'm always down to learn from people who know more than I do :)
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I'd love to see yall debunk sasquatch videos.
For the first clip, I was surprised that no one asked whether the running person might be CGI.
YESSS!!! More debunk videos! Captain D is amazing, but his videos can take so long because they are so well done that it's tough to get my debunk fix from that.
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The first thing that popped into my mind seeing that first video was "must be one of those trained bears". It's not a crazy idea, there's a lot of people that live with trained wild animals. Bears, wolves, leopards, tigers.
Thing about any kind of art is that it looks very easy once its finished or when you see an expert doing it. When you take the matters in your own hands you realise what a nightmare it can be
That robot video was one of my favorites of all time.
I thank great studios for showing us they are lying. Like the Amazing Johnathan making fun of magic and the audience. "It's a triiick!"
You make us stronger.
Bravo Jake! That sponsor ad was Ryan Reynolds level of entertaining. I'd watch every sponsor ad you throw at us if they were all like this!
I always watch all of Jake, Wren and Christian when they do the ads. Definitely the most entertaining.
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My friend from Texas told me he was working in Alaska and he saw a huge bear and he walked over to it to take some pictures. When he came back everyone was like “omg you’re so brave to get so close to a bear” and then he realized how close he came to death
I apologize. But I'm a little disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Texas is alright.... but I anticipated a punchline coming. Then it got real! No punchline..... lol.
When you mess up so badly people feel inclined to explain the Dunning-Kreuger curve with you as an example xD
The dunning kruger effect is amazing. The most important thing i've learned as an engineer is that I don't know what I don't know.
I think it's also worth pointing out that the scene from The Revenant is made for a movie, so has different expectations and priorities than a "live" bear chase. The bear scene in The Revenant needs to be unrealistic to a degree. Without the polish, the larger than life motions, and the control over the scene, it would too easily become unreadable to the audience and lose the story of the fight/attack. The "live" bear chases are looking to simulate reality, so are hampered by that polish and control, as they add a level of unreality to what should be a far less controlled and far more chaotic scene.
tldr: Suspension of disbelief is necessary and expected in film, but detrimental to live/real footage.
I think the animators in the Revenant scene are hamstrung by the fact that (SPOILERS) the bear has to lose the fight. I'm pretty sure a bear that size would have made short work of DiCaprio.
I'm let down that you guys missed an opportunity to show footage of The Edge (1997). A great example to show what a stunt bear can do in a Hollywood film.
I am slowly coming to the realization that lighting might be the single most important element in convincing vfxs
You Should do the Bear attack scene in “The Edge” it was made in 1997 and is very supervising how well made it is
Please make this format more regular!
My favorite bear joke is two mates are hiking through the woods and they come across a grizzly bear who chases them both up a tree. As they sit and the bear is getting closer, the branch is sounding ready to break. One of the friends takes off his hiking boots and puts on his spare sneakers and his friend turns around and says "You must be crazy. Do you honestly think you can outrun a bear?" to which the mate says "No, I just need to outrun you."
Ah that's a good one
Unbearable.
I didn't notice the sponsored segment countdown until they mentioned the product, was thinking of the effort they put in making an entire cg shot of a bear chase just to feature in the middle of their episode lol
I do some VFX myself and those people saying „nowadays it isńt that hard you can do it on a shitty laptop easily“ make me SO ANGRY. I literally spend days on a few second video to make it look right and those people have the audacity to say something like this. Thanks corridor crew for those very enlightening videos!
"Is the bear real or is it fake?"
The first question we all ask is "Is it Russian?"
i understood that reference
In soviet russia, bear grizzlies you.
It's Russian to eat that man
It is actually, yeah! Snopes dug into the bear video some more and found the Russian guy who shot it as well as proof that it's real, in the sense that it's a staged scene featuring a real human as well as a real bear who was raised and trained from birth by humans. The bear's name is Tom
Man I always love Jake’s sponsor segment 😂 I usually skip, but they always make it entertaining 😂
I really enjoyed this one too. It takes watching several episodes to really appreciate the work he did on this one. That is how all commercials should be entertaining.
You always love them, but you usually skip them?
That's a weird logic. Or you're a masochist. I'm leaning on the former, though.
@@hebl47 I meant for other youtube videos. Sorry for the confusion
@@ginger9202 That makes more sense. Cheers.
Yo wren yall should make another channel just for debunking things you guys are good at it
Just thought you all should know, I'm the one who did the VFX work for that first bear clip. It took forever to write the programs that simulate everything, that you guys said convinced you that it was real, flawlessly. The algorithm I created was, and still is, insanely complex and really only works for this one video. To do another scene I'd need to modify the coding, and getting it just right would take nearly as long as creating this one from scratch did. But the finished product was worth it as a showcase of what can be done. I have actually had a quite a few offers to purchase the rights to that piece of code as well.
And if you believe even a single sentence of that....I have a time share on Venus that I'd like to sell you, and it'll be a great deal.
Sure buddy ☺️
@@lukyluk_py look at the read more
@@ermnerdmoment Oh... I'm stupid