Katana vs Saber - cutting test Japanese vs Polish
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What is better Katana or Saber ?
In todays video I will compare Japanese Katana - two handed Japanese sword and legendary polish cavalry saber pattern 1934 called Ludwikowka - the latest military grade saber used in Polish Army - both in my collection.
In the video you will see the Cracov cross fencing technique with saber cutting and tameshigiri - Japanese two handed technique for cutting static targets.
It you want to know main differences between saber and katana - Japanese sword - please watch the video.
Both sword has been sharpened by me so we assume the same sharpening level.
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![First Look: SHARP HUSSAR SABRE by Szabla Polska [HEMA]](/img/n.gif)
there is only one thing I absolutely hate on Polish saber!
I don't have one ;(
@grzegorz swierzko Me too. A mnie boli nadal, że nie mam husarskiej szabli :/
Try globalreplicas.com, they sell some decent sabers for real cheap ;)
Belive me. The samurai have no chance against Kmicic
@@mietek3921 those replicas are only for decoration purpose, not decent at all...
@@redcap2771 do you have one?
Polish Sabre is the best , we know this because even God himself has one
laughing so hard at this
@@SumeragiMinami why are you laughing ? its a great weapon
blooky I have no doubt that it's an effective piece of war equipment. I laughed coz the original comment was literally a joke. (hint: god)
@@SumeragiMinami I still dont get the joke, sorry its just that my humour is more straight forward like for example funny anime cliches or fails .
blooky it's okay. Each one has his/her own preference.
Trudno porównywać oba miecze stworzone do zupełnie innych warunków bitewnych. W dodatku jakość wykonania obu mieczy mocno różniła się w różnych okresach.
Katana była przystosowana do wykonywania precyzyjnych cięć i pchnięć, natomiast polska szabla była w stanie zalać przeciwnika gradem cięć ale i pchnięcia dobrze zadawała.
Dzięki ugiętej konstrukcji nie blokowała się przy uderzeniu lecz się ześlizgiwała. Posiadała osłonę na dłoń, oraz specjalny pierścień na kciuk, który zapobiegał wytrąceniu szabli z ręki (kosztem złamanego palca). Polska szabla tak jak katana powstawała z wielu warstw, jednak w swej konstrukcji była bardziej złożona. Polska szabla miała podwójny rdzeń z dwóch różnych twardości stali, oraz ostrze ze stali o najwyższej twardości jako warstwa trzecia. Katana posiadła tylko dwie. Oba miecze były nawęglane oraz składały się ze stali wielokrotnie składanej (co tworzy strukturę warstwową zwieszającą wytrzymałość). Polka szabla jednak posiadała bardziej wyrachowany proces hartowania (jak stosowanie różnych temperatur hartowania, oraz różnych olejów chłodzących. W dodatku przy studzeniu stali uwzględniano magnetosferę Ziemi). Dodatkowo polska szabla posiada brodzenia jeszcze bardziej zwiększające wytrzymałość ostrza (głowni).
W efekcie katana wybłagała blokowania ciosów swoją tępą stroną, zaś szabla polska pozwalała na przyjmowanie ciosów również na ostrze.
P.S.
- W Polsce pojedynki na pistolety uważano za niehonorowe barbarzyństwo, gdyż występował tam zbyt duży element losowy. Oczywiscie te na pistolety również się zdarzały, ale takie osoby były uważane za niehonorowe.
- Po I wojnie światowej pojedynki zostały zakazane, ale nadal miały one miejsce.
- Po II wojnie światowej szable jak i sztuka walki nią zostały zakazane przez komunistów jako elementy burżuazyjne (zmieniło się to po śmierci Stalina) i karane nawet śmiercią. Dziś więcej ekspertów od szabli polskiej znajdziemy w Rosji, niż w Polsce.
Dokładnie porównanie nie ma sensu, katana to broń z innej bajki a wz.1934 to xx wieczna bojowa szabla kawalerii. W temacie historii szabli polskiej więcej jeest tu ..... szablotłuk polski
@@szablotukpolski5201 zresztą ten wzór szabli był najgorszy z możliwych nieudany. Ale nie wiemy co to za katana czy to nie masówka tak ja ta polska szabla. Ponadto z tego co widziałem to ta polska szabla nie ma drugiego tak zwanego fałszywego ostrza więc nie jest top polską szablą.
@@andrzejk.4059 Polska szabla wz.1934 była nie udanym modelem ? Pierwsze słysze.Szabla wz. 1934 czy "Ludwikówka" jak kto woli to bardzo dobra kawaleryjska szabla XX wieczna.
Wiem że już trochę czasu minęło ale co do tego "pierścienia" na szabli to nie zawsze była ona stosowana. Najprawdopodobniej chodzi ci o szable husarską gdzie faktycznie pierścień był stosowany by podczas wali nie stracić kciuka ale by też podczas jazdy konno nie wypadła z ręki. Lecz na przykład w szabli węgierskiej,tuteckiej lub w karabali nie był on stosowany.Szczególnie w karabali iż była to szabla którą brało się nią "na pokaz" ponieważ była bogato zdobiona, do walki raczej jej nie używano.
Katana nie była robiona z wielu warstw dlatego by być bardziej super tylko dlatego że ruda żelaza występująca w Japonii jest bardzo kiepskiej jakości. W dodatku w Japonii nie występowały duże piece hutnicze a w Polsce takie były. Ocenia się że stał w Japonii była 2-3 razy gorsza. Niestety ale katana jest mocno przereklamowana. Wielu obdarza ją jakąś magiczna mocą a prawda jest taka że pewnie złamała by się przy dłuższej walce mieczem/szabla europejską.
Conclusion: swords can cut through a plastic bottle.
Its true that it doesn't really compare anything, but the cuts require some basic skill.
I've seen people trying to just fling swords at bottles like a club and it wont cut as well.
@@meppeorga Such people manage to bend or break a sword sometimes!
And water.
I think sabre would have split your head just as smoothly. The risk is that you might find out how empty it is...
Sword can cut a plastoc bottole, but with difrent skill
There is something very satisfying about watching the saber being twirled and swung.
It's even more impressive if swung properly.
Yeah but look at other side we never even in Games have situation when Samurai stand agains Polish Winged Hussar. They two Have armor and this national Weapons. I will like to see when they fight only on blades.
@@sulibor3036 There are mods for games that do that tho.
@@huntclanhunt9697 But dont have this special technique of saber fighting
normaly good Saber users swing it faster and in different variety to cover each angle, build momentum and confuse enemy from wchic side he will attack
And with the Polish sabre you still have one hand free :)
For another one
And in your free hand a bayonet or a pistol!
And use this hand to smach Samurai in Face
Usually to hold the reins and keep your horse in the order.
@@zizu4813 samurai parry blade so polish Hussar pull out flintstock like: Parry this you casual *shoot*
Sieniawski i Deląg (Delong) : film "Zrodzeni do szabli".
If I had to fight I would choose a Polish saber but different from the one on the film. I would choose the Polish saber used by Polish nobility in the 17th century. The blade at the end has a double blade. It is slightly lighter than the Hussar saber, but very similar to it. I would also choose Polish fighting technique.
Ludwikówka also has a double blade (pióro). It does not stand out like in sabers from the 17th century, but it was sharpened.
Do you mean Karabela?
Interesting conversation between 3 poles (now 4) in English xD
och aye, 5 the noo 😎
Batorowka (long crossguards) or more like Karabela.
The hussar szabla with ring is great too..
Yoi have many repro and nice blackswith now in Poland..I have a wz21 fencil very close to an original (just with one small eagle not a.mann stamp).
A good pratical one is around 200$..a real old one (classic..not a rare one)..700..1000$.
Polish Sabre any day
@@Jnaga199 well...polish sabre is faster
@@Jnaga199 stop watching too much anime
@@Jnaga199 considering my subscriptions are private and your writtings ridiculous I see that my initial idea of you being just an unfunny troll was correct
@@tsinaropouloschristos593 Lol even though you wasted your time talking to that buffoon, I just want you to know it gave me a pretty good laugh.
czcams.com/video/Lqf5vuJqQv0/video.html
Someone: adds "Polish" in title
Comms section :
@Bartosz L koksu 5 gram
Very polished comms section indeed
@@kacperkorona8055 odlecieć sam
I had two model 1922 Polish cavalry sabers. I gave one to my new son-in-law (a US cavalry officer) on his wedding to cut their cake. He was very pleased. Lovely swords.
such a honor to have such a father-in-law
@@siwaszkotka Dziękuję bardzo
katana is a fancy sword
the saber is deadly effective
the authentic Polish hussar saber was decorated with gold, silver and various engravings because it was used for combat and for parades. Of course, everything was of the highest quality.
Bro the katana just isn’t just a fancy sword. It was extremely effective cause of the lightning fast cuts. You watch how fast katana based combat is in kendo.
@@rajkumarmarichetty2737 have you seen polish Saber training vs. katana training? Or even a spar? They are pretty on par when up against each other, but the Saber has way more authority in the cut as well as a hearty amount of spear due to being able to quickly re-direct it with your one hand, it flows. Unlike the katana. Which is more stiff.
@@polski245 Bro I'm not demeaning the saber, I'm just saying the katana is an effective weapon. Yes the saber is fast and nimble but so is the katana. We really need to stop comparing swords and saying this is the best sword. The sword is a tool to kill and in the hands of a swordsman it does just that.
Both weapons are elegant - suitable for more elegant times 😁
Can't agree more .
Elegant how lol. If had to die Id rather quickly by a gun to the head than being disemboweled or hacked and skewered lmao
Przez ponad tysiąc lat Rycerze Polscy byli strażnikami pokoju i sprawiedliwości w Rzeczpospolitej. Przed mrocznymi czasami... przed Globohomo Imperium...
Brawo za ideę i szerzenie wiedzy o polskiej szabli w Europie.
Well that sabre is technically supposed to be used by calvary the one used by infantry was way lighter and its purpose was not to cut limbs but to slide across the enemy body causing fatal wounds
Someone loves the Polish Sabre and congrats on the 1K
czcams.com/video/Lqf5vuJqQv0/video.html
Definitely Polish Saber. It enables every maneuver and technique at any distance from the opponent. Both on foot and on horseback. Especially since the other hand remains available. The Japanese Katana is flawless in open battle with a fixed front. I think for this reason ...
The samurai also carried a shorter sword.
if anyone would like to hear about the great history polish saber . . . szablotłuk polski
the shorter sword as the one they used to do seppuku with?
@@gasparkalashnikov8870 There were two options for the shorter sword, wakizashi and tanto. Tanto was traditionally used for seppuku.
@@MrKoraboras I tought wakizashi was it was also used if katana was lost during battle, but isn't tanto more of a dagger
@@gasparkalashnikov8870 Tanto is still classified as a sword as far as the Japanese are concerned, though it's lengthwise closer to a dagger.
And yeah, it was called daishi IIRC. Meaning long and short, since they needed to have a longsword and a shortsword. Samurai originally used tanto and tachi for their daishi combo, but replaced them with katanas and wakizashis once those were invented, or at least most of them did. Ultimately it was up to the samurai which weapons he used, it's just that katana-wakizashi combo was the most popular. You could easily use katana-tanto combo or possibly even nodachi-wakizashi combo if you wanted to - it was up to the individual warrior.
Exactly how they work. Loved the video, subbed, i expect more like those in the future
+Neon thank you. Sure there Will be more. Regards
Very interesting and short video.
I liked your previous movements before executing the cuts.
Congrats, liked and subscribed. Dziekuje !!! Cheers !!!
The one thing I've noticed between the saber and the katana in almost every video Is that the Person wielding the guitar has to set themselves in place in proper stance just to make a proper cut where as the saber can literally be in any stance moving or standing still and still make a proper cut . It seems to me that perrying, blocking, And cutting is facilitated easier with a saber
Much faster for sure... Faster and deadly
yeah watch skallagrim's sabre sparring video. it's a very swingy and sparky sword
I think that's just parr for the course for 2 handed vs 1 handed swords.
You couldn't get a katana maker to make a saber. It is modern spring steel. The WW2 Japanese military katana is a saber blade with a katana handle, and will cut just fine.
Co to za test, gość przeciął 2 butelki z wodą, ukłonił się i tyle.
Noo ; i to jeszcze z niegazowaną.
Polish Sabre is the best , we know this because even God himself has one!
W temacie historii szabli polskiej więcej ttuu .. szablotłuk polski
Is that a reference to something?
@@kenken8765 its in the Bible
Sobieski's known the best when release Ostereich form turkey storm ^^
shameless stolen comment but ok
Your fencing technique with the both blade types is to the point. Well done.
im sorry but "machasz Waść jak cepem"... :P
A dokładnie „Waść machasz jak cepem”
Xx
Polish saber is effective and concise. I like it.
Xie xie
Polish sabre - 1k years experience of cutting enemies. So it must be good.
1k? More like 300 years.
The Sabre looks like Iris, Olgeird Von Everec's weapon from the Witcher
Character modeled on a Polish nobleman.
Kinda. He is wearing kontusz which was worn by Polish and Hungarian male nobility but his soliders call him Ataman which actually is Cossac leader. And his weapon is a combination of polish sabre Karabela and german Große Messer which was long knife used to self defense.
Because "Witcher" is the game produced by polish company i think :)
the fight in the game was based on the fight in this movie
@Morphy look him:
czcams.com/video/mEVt6zLRCtg/video.html
and
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Kmicic
Olgierd was inspired by Kmicic from the novel Deluge.
Plot twist.... Beatrix Kiddo from Kill Bill actually had a Polish sabre disguised as Japanese steel. No wonder she vanquished the Crazy 88s so easily!
The
Winged Husars sabers are the best.
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
I mean this video didn't prove anything, but having a katana and Polish sabre myself, I definitely prefer the saber just because of the handling of the Katana. Not a bad sword by any means, but for its size you shouldn't need to use two hands.
czcams.com/video/hgWLl_Z0uJk/video.html
well there's a lot of katana types same as fighting styles you can't do one hand and both depending on style, but katana it self is more of a long sword O-Katana would be more of a great sword
I know katana can cut, but that polish saber cut is damn clean
Pokazana "ludwikówka" to chujowa kopia szabli wz.34, robiona z tandentnej stali na potrzeby imprez, jako prezent dla odchodzących na emerytury gliniarzy albo żołnierzy. Wiem, bo taką samą dostalem w takich okolicznościach przyrody.
Masz rację ; słabo wygląda . Oryginalna ludwikówka jest dobrze wykonana , jest bardzo " ładną" szablą .
Katana enthusiasts are so exhausting, because what many self-proclaimed katana enthusiasts tend to not understand is that the katana was a SIDE ARM. Samurai's primary weapons ranged from yaris to muskets to bows. Katanas were a secondary weapon. Polish sabers were a primary weapon, particularly of cavalry. That's a huge difference right there.
Yeah, no. Main weapon of hussars was a Hussar lance, being broken after being used once, next a big iron rod with a spike at the end which doesn't have a name in english as far as I know, a saber and finally if absolutely necesarry bows or muskets. They were using equipment very similar to this used by samurais, but aside from the best training on their respective continents and trademark weapons neither of them was special. As an anecdote I'll add that Russians tried to copy hussars and due to the lack of information about any victory of this unit Russian Hussars are considered to be a military catastrophe. There's even a note about them having broken their copies when going throught the gate of some town, because they forgot to put them down
@@DehydratedDarkness Are you under the impression that all cavalry in 19th century Europe were uhlans and 'winged hussars?' Or that the so-called 'Lance Craze' that swept Europe immediately following the Napoleonic Wars is a accurate generalization of European cavalry in general?
@@mikep8071 The 'winged hussars was theoretically dissolved in 1776, and practically from 1702 it was a representative unit
@@kikiv1993 That was more or less my point. This isn't really a matter of debate, the period from 1700 through to the end of WWI is exceptionally well documented - it's modern history. A simple google search reveals what European and New World cavalry looked like, and what weapons they carried. Yes, some operated as mounted infantry, a small minority operated as lancers, but by and large they were sword wielding units.
The winged hussars are cavalry from the 17th century, not the 18th century. The successes of the hussars were the result of the tactics developed and adopted for this formation, and used only in Poland (although hussars were used in Transylvania and Russia). The strength of the hussars were the combat elements, natural for the eastern cavalry (momentum and mobility), combined with the elements characteristic of the western cavalry (formation compactness), as well as some elements belonging only to this formation (the longest copies, the ability to loosen and tighten ranks during the charge). Thanks to the impetus, the hussars could break up the formations of the western infantry and cavalry, which, focused on firearms (still imperfect gonets and arquebuses), could not stop their charges. Thanks to her mobility and horses (hussars were very fast), she could boldly fight and win both with the hard cavalry and infantry of the West, as well as with the light Eastern cavalry - Turkish, and even with Tatars.
The minimal losses during the charges were taken from a special attack method, typical only for the Polish hussars: until the enemy salvaged, the charge was carried out in a rather loose formation (about 3 m between the horses in each row), which was tightened only just before the enemy (100-60 m), sometimes even as close as "knee to knee"
Nice technique, very graceful with both weapons.
difference is that polish sabre is much more dynamic than japanese katana
"When you are fighting like samurai, you are standing still and waiting for your opponent to move."
Imperial Japanese Officers, 1944: "Is that a challenge?"
That would maby happen during EDO period when 2 samurai bump into eachother on the street but on a battlefield Katana wasn't a primary weapon and not even a primary sword used and the whole idea of battles beeing a series of duels etc. is bullshit.
@ren 666 No Yari, yumi ,teppo and odachi were main weapons, Tachi was a secondary weapon for cavalry altough katana was also used and when on foot katana was mainly 2ndary weapon. There were no large formations with katana as primary weapons.
Lol arent yari considered a katana as well idk i just saw it in a vid once
Plus they might have said so in the books to refer to them as weaponry of a samurai or just broadly as a weapon
I mean im not sure but there are proper terms for a katana a daito and a shoto there are more but i think the term katana is just a popular term to use so they use it often
Katana means knife so even a kitchen knife can be a katana?
@@az-6262 Katana refers to specific type of japanese sword, sometimes it's used as a general term for sword in a casual manner. Katana was an important weapon but early samurai didn't use it and later it was never the main weapon on the battlefield, it was a side arm.
Yari is a spear.
@@filipzietek5146 yes i do know what a yari is, i just saw someone refer to a yari as a katana
Polish saber is for cavalry, katana is for samurais. Very different style of fighting. First one is for very dynamic fight, riding on horse, next one is for static fight on your feet. How to compare ?
Not only for cavalry.
@@wojciechbarczewski798 Witam. Oficerowie w piechocie czy artylerii również ją mieli ale szabla była głównie bronią kawalerii. Pozdrawiam.
w temacie wielkiej historii szabli polskiej . . . szablotłuk polski
Dwie uwagi. 1. Ludwikówka, czyli szabla wz. 34 to szabla kawaleryjska do walki z grzbietu konia. Do walki z marszu była szabla tzw. Piechocińska wz. 1917; 2. Ta którą porównujesz to replika, którą wręcza się oficerom jak odchodzą na emeryturę :) , oryginalna Ludwikówka waży 870 gr.
Katana tez replika. Porownanie dwoch falsifikatow😁
hey , dzięki, gdzie mogę zakupić Polski miecz który jest ostry? ja mieszkam w Kanadzie , pozdrawiam . jeśli znasz jakiś sklep , lub blacksmith który robi te miecze , chętny jestem zakupić. Daj mi znać .
Пане є канал " назаров и калибр" дуже якісні історичні шаблі, але дорого і гострити пан буде сам.
Great video nice technique both great swords
Very nice cut! Both are very beautiful swords. I love you!
But this sabre is heavy sabre of cavalery wz34 from 1930's it shouldn't be compared with katana, try to compare some of Polish sabres from 16/17th century with katana, it could get more sence then wz34 sabre ;)
Those are a LOT more pricey :)
You can compare everything.
You can compare katana to an apple.
Depends on your focus and interest.
Nice clean cuts with both.
Both are good swords. Nice video, subbed.
Thanks
@@CuAgFe Anytime.
Im not an expert in it, but this sabre seems a bit heavy. 1.5kg. I read and watched that hussar sabers without handles were as light as 0.5kg = to about 1 pound. This is also all based on the personal preferences. Some guys may prefer heavier and some lighter sabers, some with "paluch" some without, some with false edge some without depending their own style of fighting and skills. In the heyday of these sabers each guy was choosing them to their need and paid for them themselves.... pretty much as today tennis players choose rackets. Polish sabre Wz. 34 was a military issued sabre and as that, it was unified in shape, weight, and style.
One last thing I would add compering Japanese vs. Cross Cutting is that Japanese style is very rigid while Cross Cutting is heavily based on improvisation and adaptation.
I don't believe it was 1.5kg, that's ridiculously heavy. I think he was including the weight of the scabbard for some reason
@@dzonbrodi514 It weights 1.5 kg with a sheath. There's an wiki article bout this sabre. You may find it interesting. I was always amazed by this fragment:
"In addition, prior to delivery, each piece of weapon had to undergo a series of rigorous stress-tests:
when dropped free from the height of 2 metres it was to pierce a steel sheet 2 millimetres (0.079 in) thick
cut five 5 mm steel bars without damaging the edge
survive a powerful blows into a hardwood stub with the flat and the spine, without any damages to the blade
the blade pressed against a hardwood stub was to bend 150 millimetres (5.9 in) to either side without breaking or deforming
the sheath placed flat on two bricks was to survive a 120 kilograms (260 lb) force"
It was real millitary weapon
@@thrashingpanic That is interesting, thanks :)
Beautiful! I envy you real katana and saber :D
You Sir are a real cut up. good video, thanks.
Jerzy Pawłowski In 1957 he became the first Polish individual world champion in fencing. He said that the sabre used by the Winged Hussars, based on his research with it, was the best sabre in the world. It had the advantages of other Asian sabres, as well as catana.
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The Polish sabre proved to be extremely lethal and effective many times in practice of wars and battles over centuries, eg. 1683 victory at Vienna. Techniques of fight with it are also more complicated and difficult to predict, here you are part of the movie regarded as the best scene of realistic fight (just using Polish sabre): czcams.com/video/FR976PhMbDM/video.html and also full stuff: czcams.com/video/wR4y9O90C8g/video.html
Так чего же в итоге Польша была слабым государством основную свою историю?)
@@Barbarosich Due to political system unfortunately (at some point it became completely inefficient) and the fact that Poland was located between 3 very expansive and kinda aggressive countries that happened to cooperate against Poland.
@@dctPL Enough of this nonsense, Poland itself was an aggressive country towards its neighbors, every country is aggressive towards its neighbors and this is the history of mankind. How many years have they been trying to make an innocent sheep out of Poland ...Yes, and it is cruel to its own population, despite how you express yourself on aggressive neighbors, Poland almost prayed for the same Germany.
@@Barbarosich Are you OK bro or someone hurt you? I shortly answered your question and somehow you drew completely ungrounded conclusions about things I didn't even refer to.
What are you to be such an aggressive individual...Russian?
@@dctPL There is no aggression in my words, but just facts. Only Russians can be aggressive? Do you have any problems with Nazism?
The best Polish hussar sabers were of equal quality and often better than damascus sabers. The design differed significantly from the 1934 WZ, firstly a "false blade" and just below a thickening, the so-called "hammer" - it improved the balance and increased the cutting force, plus a "toe", protection of the thumb, more reliable maneuvering and most importantly - the possibility of cutting back with a false blade plus improved grip in in all circumstances which is of fundamental importance when fighting a horse. To place a samurai on a horse with a katana and a Polish hussar with a saber, the samurai has a better chance in the lottery.
if anyone would like to hear about the great history polish saber . . . szablotłuk polski
@@szablotukpolski5201 Non omnis moriar czcams.com/video/1VFzoDlOgLo/video.html
@@witolddomagaa9132 I know Zbigniew Juszkiewicz :))
Nice demonstration
Thanks
Nice cuts!
Thanks
I’ve always heard in videos that the samurai sword was the best in the world. Now I’m not so sure.
Nice swords. How much does they cost ?
$600
Very good video
Is the Polish sabre you use a repro or original ?
It's definitely repr but made with original specs original from a WW2 Time cost a lot of money.
@@CuAgFe
Where can one be had that is exactly distal taper the whole 9 yards be had ?
Thanks for the response by the way
Try both of them cutting pork meat with bones.very good video
fan fact did you knew middle of sword can deal stronger blow wchic can lead to decapitation, Idk if in all of them but most surly are stronger in middle
The best sabre is Winged Hussars sabre ever ! Between 16 and 17th century
I would use either, they are both beautiful and quick
Who make this saber ?
Both are gud
Great sabre swinging techniques and nice cuts. Which one was the best in your opinion?
Make Poland great again! MaPoGA!
You have my kind respect, sir. Please keep those videos coming.
Thanks
You gotta make more vids like this
Saber wz.34 was designed as a cavalary weapon, mainly for chopping and stabbing. Better comparison would be Katana vs Saber wz.21 (older, multipurpose one). Cheers.
the sabre you've tested is dedicated for cavalry, just for one powerfull cut, so its a reason it's so heavy. If you could try Polish sabre from 17 century, will be more reliable. the weigt was close to 1 kg.
Lastly I got the 1921 model which is significantly lighter
@@CuAgFe Even that it's still typical cavalry sabre not for fencing. anyway the wz 34 has very well technical parameters concerning the blade quality. It was produced as serial "mass" production with quality control, based on brutal force tests..
Where can I get a 17th century one
@@wojteksadowski910 In museum:))) or try to get a replica...
Mar Z or should I get a ww2 one because my great grandfather was a in a Calvary unit I think
Polish sabers have a long history, are more expensive both in the material and the making and are quite a bit modern. Katana had a different use slightly, but it is still better comparison to sabre than say medieval longswords. Still, I knew before clicking that Katana simply had no chance in this test. After watching, well, turned out not very conclusive :) It seemed like sabre was faster, that's about it.
Exactly, I feel like if Japan had been open to trade during their warring states era, many warlords would of have adopted European sword styles really quickly lol, just like they did with guns
That sabre weighs 1.5kg? Damn, that is a heavy sabre. Needs to go on a diet.
Polish sabre is a cavalry weapon, it has to be one handed because you are supposed to fight from a horse, holding reins with the other hand. Also as per tradition your enemies will carry little if any armour (Tatars etc)
hey english saber specialist :) :). did anyone tell you that wz.34 saber is used to fight a horse and katana is used to fight on foot???
Hahah co ty gadasz wogole nie siej dezinformacji sprawdź coś zanim napiszesz
@Krzysztof Bartczak tak kawaleryjska ale jej główne przeznaczenie to nie walka konna, podczas II WŚ to była bardziej tradycja niż realna siła ognia.
i want to buy a Sabre, so much more interesting than a katana
dont get me wrong though, there are many beautifully made katanas out there
@@g.mtorsten3564 Same goes for sabres :) Many cultures used them, the priciest of sabres could cost as much as several fairly big villages at the time.
@@TheCrusaderBin interesting
there is a german dude who compared a sharpen metal bar against a katana. turns out--it's all in the blunt force of the weapon. ale fajny kanal, wpuszczaj dalej!
Pretty clean cuts, and I think that you have a great manner. As for 'likes' more Polish Sabre please, preferably 16th/17th Century, partly because I am a fan of the books of Henryk Sienkiewicz, and the movies based on them. All the best to you sir.
Im polish lubię pierogi :))
possible western spy
Zajebiście, a ja mój drogi kolego lubię np wpierdalać gruz :/
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Nie klnij Pan.
@@adrian29811 target spotted
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Z tego co pokazał widać już jaka szabla jest lepsza w użytku. Nigdy katana nie będzie lepsza.
to wróćmy do realiów walki bronią białą: szabla/miecz to broń zapasowa. Przeciwko czemuś długiemu i drzewcowemu. Pole bitwy to nie jeden na jeden, a broń zapasowa jest używana wtedy gdy nie możesz skorzystać broni głównej czyli już jesteś w defensywie.
Porównajmy jak jedna i druga broń potrafi obronić Ciebie przed kilkoma pikami, halabardami czy kosami.
@@gradowik nie masz pojęcia o czym piszesz ;)
Id like to see a video on how to make an Air gun maintenance. I have a weihrauch Hw50s 4,5 mm tuned
You are a warrior my brother!!!!
Polish sabre (saber) is not a sword. It's sabre - as the name says. Katana, technically, as a weapon usually with a curved and single-edged blade it is also a sabre, but it is common mistake to use the term "samurai sword"
Marcin, w j. ang. słowo sword nie oznacza miecza, tylko (jeżeli dobrze pamiętam) długą broń białą z głownią i rękojeścią, a w j. polskim miecz to długa broń biała o prostej, obosiecznej głowni, otwartej rękojeści i o najczęściej krzyżowych jelcach. Wiem, ja też kiedy się mocno zdziwiłem, kiedy dowiedziałem się, że sword nie oznaczy miecza.
@@tsiiri519 podstawowym i potocznym znaczeniem słowa 'sword' jest miecz, natomiast szabla to 'sabre' bądź 'saber'
@@wiedzminzamosc Ale w j. ang. do mieczy zaliczają pałasze, szable, rapiery, kordy, tasaki, katany itp. bo inna jest definicja miecza u nich.
A "Saber" is a type of a sword...
@@tsiiri519
miecz - sword
szabla - saber
tasak - chopper
rapier - rapier
pałasz - broadsword
kord - cutlass
coś pominąłem?
You have a ceremonial saber. From century it wasn't used in combat. The original saber had a "ring" which was prewented from falling out or turning in the hand.
Nie poznajesz ludwikówki wz 34? To nie żadna tam szabla paradna tylo prawdziwa ułańska i to barzo udana. Widziałeś kiedy szable paradne z rękojeścią wyłożoną gołym drewnem???
I, myself, would chose the Polish saber over the Katana. Absolute favorite is the 1800s cutlass.
i'd chose the opposite though absolute favorite is zweihander sword, then maybe rapier. I wouldn't risk going with sabre against katana - it's not about the quality of weapon it's about types of movements one is comfortable with.
Even the best weapon is useless if, one find it difficult to use it. Even mediocre weapon can be advantage provided that someone can use it.
We jest może ragout tactics and staf in airsoft please, Special tactics in airsoft...?
Ja chciałbym zobaczyć jak używasz więcej biodra, w każdej sztuce walki wyprowadza się potężne ciosy przy pomocy biodra bo tam są najsilniejsze mięśnie ciała. Dołożenie bioder do ruchu ramionami zrobiłoby ogromną różnicę.
Szabla to nadgarstek, ramię i przede wszystkim nogi z głową. Bioder możesz używać do tańczenia bacciaty.
Make something Polish. Immediately Polish viewers will come and like your video and maybe they will watch other your films.
It’s the same with stupid
Good to know
It really depends the most on how sharp they are. Also, the cutting angle of the wielder.
It's not about sword, it's about it's master
@@gasparkalashnikov8870 not true its literally about the sword. In ancient japan they always used a master swordsman to test a blade when it was coming out of production. Because the performance of a master will always be the same with perfect edge alignment and perfect technique, while the sharpness/hardness and durability and balance of the blade all can vary. Smithing back then was hard and results were not consistent at all.
disagree
@@gasparkalashnikov8870 good arguments nice chat bye.
random fart noise at 1:06
Hahahah
kolega dobrze zauważył jak cepem machasz puść filmik ja ktoś z naszych macha to kopary opadną
Aramis?
XD?
Thought they would have tested until one did not cut through something. Way back in the day with the Katana they would bring out convicts & test the sword on them. They would cut clean through at the waist parallel to the ground. The top ones could cut clean through 2 convicts standing side by side.
Ludwikówka was a saber designed for fighting a horse, it was not intended for fighting on foot (for infantry). He had a shifted center of gravity towards the tip of the blade.
Cavalry sabres in 16th and 17th centuries usually were longer with ,,pióro" (feather) in 1/3 of a yellec to stronger punch but with ,,polish tool" way of cavalry fight very often the sabre was sharp in both sides - different than sabres to fight on foot.
First line had copy, second with sabres was meant to bounce enemy sword (or different weapon) , 3 and 4 lines striked final cut.
Many peoples forgot that hussars were not the most frightening polish cavalry unit ;)
I recommend you to watch the sword fight scene from the beginning of the movie Flood - (FLOOD). It is a Polish film from 1974. You may find the fight scene interesting.
Tytuł polski to Potop. W tłumaczeniu na angielski to The Deluge. Pozdrawiam.
Marek Wojtalski is right. The polish title is "Deluge"
which is the best? let's chek what for & a sword concept! the best cuting, I'm sure in katana. but in war I prefer a saber. why? katana has a sharp of thin blade. it's good for cuting, not to clash. who's agree to me?
Exactly :)
Wait, how is a saber, a sword specifically designed to have incredible efficient cutting lose in cutting compared to a katana, which is also designed for cutting, but has an incredibly lesser curvature, and relatively thick blade when compared to most swords?
Nerdy virgin samurai sword vs Noble Chad Polish Saber
To co napisałeś jest głupie
funny thing is nowdays it doesn't matter anymore. If you buy sword made by good manufacturer, made of good quality spring steel , then it's only shape and preference. All swords will be great.
Polska szabla najlepsza! 🇵🇱
Coś tu mi przypomkna porównanie kozika ze scyzorykiem, hmmm!
Both swords are great.
Polish sabres were used horse riding. The last polish cavalery charge (250 sodiers and horses; not sure of the number) was against german army in september 1939.
You should try Karabela, a 6-foot-long szabla (saber) of the Polish or Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth's Winged Hussars! Szablas, because of their curved blades, were more of hewing weapons almost like axes. You could also try their secondary weapon, Koncerz. Besides the before-mentioned weapons and lance, they did carry pistols into combat. And some even bows and arrows or Arquebus into combat. Horses did undergo prolonged training and were trained to defend themselves and fight.
6-foot-long? Karabela had a blade 750-900mm long (so less than 3 feet). Koncerz was six feet long, but it was not a saber and definitely not constructed for a swing but for a thrust.
That proved nothing, both cut throughout with no problem at all. Perhaps you should use a piece of meat with bone or leather armour so we can see any difference in severity of cut.
+M K. Great idea. I will prepare something like this.
Leather armor...
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 Yeah I cringed as well. Its not 1980 anymore when will these misconceptions stop
Severity of the cut will depend on many things including technique and experience, really the only thing that truly matters is what you've trained with and how proficient you are with it.
Look at this testing of katana vs longsword czcams.com/video/EDkoj932YFo/video.html
Maybe ice cube would good be good alternative?
Szabla służy przede wszystkim do walki z konia, zaś Katana do walki pieszej. Ponadto Samurai posiadał drugi miecz, zaś Polski Kawalerzysta w 16-17 wieku posiadał Czekan, również perfekcyjna broń do walki konnej. Pomijając Łuki Refleksyjne, pistolety.
Samurai i Polski Kawalerzysta również posiadali lance, w Polsce w 16-17 wieku, była jeszcze kopia husarska, pusta w środku długa na 6,2 metra, były czasami jeszcze dłuższe. Na kopie potrafiono nabić nawet przy jednej szarży 6-8 Zolniezy wroga, bardzo przydatna broń przeciwko zwartym szeregom wroga. Sama Idea Szabli jako takiej narodzila się w 6 wieku, w Państwie Turkmenow, którzy zapanowali na Stepie od Wolgi po Amur, lecz już Hunowie i Scytowie , oraz Kimerowie, mieli swoje osiągnięcia w produkcji pierwszych Szabli i Pałaszy . Ta krzywizna Szabli daje poślizg niezbędny przy pełnym galopie koniem około 60 km na godzinę, przy prostej głowni nadgarstek w zderzeniu z przeciwnikiem który nadciąga z naprzeciwka nie daje rady. Zderzenie dwóch jeźdźców w pełnym galopie 120 km na godzinę, plus siła uderzenia ramion i tułowia , oraz siad na konia z pozycji stojącej w strzemionach na siodlo. Taka siła to około pół tony nacisku na nadgarstek, musi być krzywizna Szabli, bo inaczej łatwo o kontuzję.
Szabla była bronią uniwersalną. I do walki konnej (między innym konnym) i do pieszej (czy do pojedynków).
Sama szabla to pomysł najprawdopodobniej chiński, przypełzła do Europy we wczesnym średniowieczu, ale wtedy furory nie zrobiła. Używali jej głównie Mongołowie, Tatarzy i Turcy.
Dopiero docenili ją ponownie kilkaset lat później Węgrzy i Rusini. A jakiś wiek czy dwa później Polacy - bo wcześniej była uważana za broń "plebejską" - niegodną prawdziwego rycerza - wraz z odejściem pełnej zbroi płytowej to się zmieniło - i zasadzie żaden szlachcic nie mógł się obejść bez jakiejś szabli przy boku.
@@PiotrPilinko Z tego co wiem stworzyli pierwsze szable, Turkmeni czyli ludy Tureckie. Na pewno nie chińczycy i to już Trzeci, Czwarty Wiek naszej ery. Polecam Książkę: Lew Gumilow " Historia dawnych Turków ". Dawne Dzikie Ludy, na pewno nie Chińczycy. Posiadali Państwo od Wolgi po Amur.
my youtube chronology at 3 a.m. be like: