George is the best.... we have missed you the last few years... it's great to see you're back... (This video is old... But George is back with great new videos) But I just want to mention bourbon can be made anywhere in the USA ... not just Kentucky!
Gorge. The “every one loves shop teacher “ that has forgotten more about this than most of us will ever know-- invoked still it my favorite “I’m learning this sh!$ with you” guy. I love this channel 😊
Hi Gorge! Love the channel. I wanted to clarify for all the viewers that in order to label your whiskey as “bourbon” you DON’T have to be brewed in KY. Bourbon can be made anywhere within the continental U.S. as long as you meet the 51% Corn threshold & introduce the liquid to NEW Oak that has been charred!
George... in my humble opinion... this is your best video that I have been privileged to watch so far... I really gained a tremendous amount of needed knowledge on fermentation here! Thank you!
Just talked to you George, going to take your advise. I am amazed you answered after only 3 rings, thats great. My next mash I am going to try an all grain mash. Your vids have given me the confidence to give it a try, you are the professor of pot-stills, the Doctor of distilling. the master of mash. the warlock of washes, the guru of grain....you get the point. Happy distilling from Wayne from Canada.
About the fear of you tube discontinuing this distilling content. Both Barley and Hops and Still it are legitimate viewing platforms for up and coming distillers, working toward becoming legitimate licenced distillers. I have learnt a lot from you tube. There are lots of new micro distillery’s starting up all over the world. A lot of these distillery’s, there early interest and roots will be imbedded in you tube channels like Barley and hops and Still it . You tube was the spark that has ignited a passion. In New Zealand where it is easy to do distilling legally as a hobby. In most country’s you can apply for and get licences to distil spirits pay the taxes and sell. Also you may not sell any!Just meet the government requirements. Every body has to find there preferred learning platform. You have no control over the intent of the viewer. If I remember correctly. Barley and hops has a licence to distil fuel alcohol. What flavour you run your mower on is irrelevant. If you get that licence or not. To research and learn how, is part of the journey. My daughter is currently doing a diploma. Some of the required viewing is on You tube You can study university courses on CZcams. So why not how to distil?
Great stuff George 😊. I'm thinking if one grinding cylinder was loaded with a stout spring ? So it could move a bit, Your grinder would work on all grain. Adjust tension of the spring with a piece of all thread. Great content 👍. God Bless y'all
Ok big fan. You're the best out there fora beginner. Question i have a bunch of malted wheat can I use this to get amylase to break corn starch to sugar also?
George - GREAT VIDEO! Now a question - if the malted barley adds 130 excess DP/lb/gal, why would it not be calculated as (130 DP/lb/gal) / (5 gal) = 26 DP/lb total for the 5gal batch? Am I thinking incorrectly?
Rye takes 30 Linter to consume itself how much Lintner does flaked corn require? Is there a chart somewhere that has the Lintner scale for various grains and cereals for consumption?
Hello, love your channel !!! I have a question Sir. What is the length ( height) neccessary to run a 1/2 inch copper tubing from the lid of my pot still ,before I bend it down to my condensation bucket.
George, love your vids you explain thing at my level. Would you consider doing a tutorial on bubble plates at some point? Even better, get your tools out and make one 🙏🏻 then I can learn from your mistakes 😁
I was thinking about doing a all oat mash but theres not much info on using oats. Do you have any videos about that? Or can i just treat oats like corn? Oh I'm talking about whole or steel cut oats not the precooked flakes or rolled
George, your videos are most informative as well as entertaining, thank you for sharing your knowledge and your passion. Could you please show the math involved in coming up with the 8.1 ppg from the 2.8 pounds of corn. I'm not a math whiz and have been pulling out what hair I have left, trying to follow correctly. Many thanks!
7.8 lb minus 5 = 2.8 lb corn left over 1 lb corn = 33 gp/lb/gal so in this case 5 gallons with 5 lb would equal 33 gp. 2.8 lbs would = 41.1 gp for one gallon divide 41.1 by 5 gallons and that leaves 8.1 gp/lb/gal. add the 33 gp to 8.1 gp and that = total 41.1 gp in 5 gallons.
@@WaBowHunter2 , thanks Don for asking this question on the calculation. I was struggling over this one. Here is what I came up with. Rye: 10 # divided by 5 gal = 2 # per gal times 25 ppg = 50 ppg. Corn: 7.8 # divided by 5 gal = 1.56 # per gal times 33 ppg = 51.48 ppg Total= 50 + 51.48 = 101.48 George, awesome videos sir. Keep it up.
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing I'm still struggling her to understand where you came up with the 8.1......:( I'm no Math whiz...... I understand why 33 is 33. Just not what equation you should use to get the 8.1.
Correct most bourbon is currently made in Kentucky. However bourbon was first made here in the US in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Believe it or not. Check out Wigle whiskey‘s in Pittsburgh PA
Not a big fan of Google or CZcams anymore George with their political leanings. (same company) We need something better. I'd visit your website if you kept all of your videos there. I'd suggest keeping copies of everything if you aren't already. Your information is invaluable to many of us. I've learned a great deal from you and have had great success.
Hi George, I'm trying to o get the same result as you for GP can you tell me where I'm going wrong for the corn 7.8÷5×33=51.48 and for the Rye 10÷5×25=50 Total GP 101.5
George - if the malted barley adds 130 excess DP/lb/gal, why would it not be calculated as (130 DP/lb/gal) / (5 gal) = 26 DP/lb total for the 5gal batch? Am I thinking incorrectly?
A little different subject.. Clearing the wash..Has anyone ever tried running + and - DC current (separately of course) to clarify. Even two tanks and switch polarity. I anyone knows, its you. Thanks
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing I am a BIG fan of step mashing... not only does one get all of those additionally helpful enzymes, but I personally find it much easier to "sneak" up on 154 F than to try to hit it directly without over shooting the mark... I guess I just get in too much of a hurry when I try to bust straight there... lol!
Does anyone have a copy of or know where I can get a copy of a chart listing the diastatic power of ALL grains? The only ones I can find only talk about malts. I want a comprehensive list so I can confirm my diastatic power. Thanks in advance!
There are online calculators for this at www.brewersfriend.com/brewhouse-efficiency/ and www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/ 7.8 lbs of flaked corn, 1 lb 6 row barley and 10 lbs malted rye for a 5 gallon wort and a target gravity of 1.093 yields, Gravity at 100% Efficiency: 1.143 - max Gravity at 75% Efficiency: 1.107 Brew House Efficiency: 65.03% Points / Pound / Gallon (ppg): 24.7 If George could get a conversion efficiency of 75% then he would get the following potential results, Estimated Pre Boil OG: 1.083 Estimated Original Gravity: 1.107 Estimated Final Gravity: 1.030 Estimated Alcohol By Volume: 10.14% Assuming a pre-boil wort of 6.5 gals, a final wort of 5 gals converted at 75% efficiency and then fermented with a standard Yeast Alcohol Tolerance of 72%.
I’m with you there. Using his terminology, points from the corn should be 51.48. Trying to get the same numbers. I’m sure it’s doesn’t make a hill of beans difference.
Hi George I'm new to this and I'm sure anyone can answer this. The corn being 33 gp and doing a 5 gallon batch, where did the initial 5 lb of corn amount come from. Is it a standard starting equation 1gallon per lb of corn?
Rob Johnson- I had the same question, so I went to John Palmer's chart. The chart is "Table 9 - Typical Malt Yields in Points/Pound/Gallon". George stated that this is Points Per Gallon. It's really Points Per Pound in a Gallon of Mash. So, George's math is correct. The important part is that it's the amount of Malt and not the amount of Mash. George, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Can an electric blender work to crush the grain? If not we're can this grain crusher be purchased at? To avoid the noise are they designed with a hand crank?
I recommend going online to 'Adventures In Homebrewing' and find the 'Cereal Killer Grain Mill' it's a great mill and the price is right. It comes with a hand crank so you can choose hand cranking or using a drill. There are other brands if you want to shop around.
You will make flour using a blender. You would be better off with a pillowcase and a hammer or rolling pin. You just want to gently crush/crack it, not pulverize it.
help me please someone help me please could i do say 60 percent cracked corn and do 25 percent malted rye and 15 percent 6-row barley . lol im new to this been doing research and leaves me with more questions but made brandy few times and came out good i used my homemade wine and one i infused a berry flavor after distilling it which im no expert lol and the other is aging in some oak wood chips in mason jars and thats easy but maybe cause im new to whiskey and bourbon it seems to be more science to it i would think its ok to add two products that turn starches to sugars i think maybe might be better but again i never made could someone help me on this dont want to drop the ball on this any feed back please and thank u
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing flaked corn is already 90% starch converted, does hydrolyzing help get it higher than that? Sorry for the questions, my brain isn't getting the hydrolyzing part.
@@bsbru88 Not sure I agree with you. I have never seen any flaked product that has been converted already. It is however gelatinized already so any cooking time is reduced. Hydrolyzing is nothing more than creating a mash from the flaked product. This step releases the starch content from the flakes. Then by using amylase those starches are converted. George
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing Yes but the flaking process has already released the starch from the kernel (that's what gelatinizing does, it also removes the germ, oil and most of the protein). Thus the flakes only need to be hydrated and warmed to around 145-155 F so that the amylase enzymes can do the conversion.
Unrelated to the topic but... Almost everything has sugar in it... I was thinking of doing something unique, like a shamrock & clover type of mash with barley.... Dunno if it's ever been done or could be done. Have you ever heard of such a thing?
Interesting idea! We make haylage out of clover and the surger helps ferment it. Although, it might not have high enough sugar contact to make it worth it in the long run, $...
@@bradthesing That's so cool! ☘️ Im thinking the shamrock and clover and barley would have a real earthy, springtime kind of taste. Yeah I figured that the sugar content to help ferment would be pretty high. But I figure that'd be some really interesting brew.
@@slelliott14 yes I understand that corn has zero DP. I was wondering how do you know how much DP is needed to convert the starches in the corn to sugar.
@shadow4280 - Sorry but I'm with you. Love the work this and the other channels are doing but this is the one question I can't seem to work out. Awesome! there is 205 DP left over - I can now add an infinite volume of pre-gelatanised corn and all its starch will be converted to sugar??? Surely there is a DP to volume ratio necessary for this to be effective? Can anyone help me and shadow to understand this?
George- I'm seriously confused by the math to estimate the Pre Boil Gravity. My calculation of your recipe came out different than yours. My process is Pounds of Malt * Typical PPG = Total potential extract points. So, for your recipe- (7.8*33) + (10*25)=507.4. Estimated Pre Boil Gravity = 1.057. Which means your going to need to add some sugar to get to 1.090. Maybe my process is completely wrong.
George- I think I figured out why I'm confused. My process gives Pre Boil Gravity and not OG for fermentation. This is too hard... Sorry for the confusion.
Using the calculator at www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/ with George's grain bill I get, Estimated Pre Boil OG: 1.083 Estimated Original Gravity: 1.107 Estimated Final Gravity: 1.030 Estimated Alcohol By Volume: 10.14% Assuming a pre-boil wort of 6.5 gals, a final wort of 5 gals converted at 75% efficiency and then fermented with a standard Yeast Alcohol Tolerance of 72%.
Bourbon has to be 51 percent corn malted barley and rye it has to be made in America and aged for I think 2 or maybe 4 years in new charred oak cask. I’m pretty sure that is the only demands the gov has for it to be called bourbon. Could be wrong but bourbon is kinda my expertise
@@garyhale9268 that’s not completely accurate most historians say that the name bourbon comes from bourbon street in New Orleans because that was where the distribution for whisky was located
Honesty George i think you have a tad too much rye in your batch. I know you do. For example your close too 8 pounds corn and 10 pounds rye. You should only use 4 pounds rye. You can put malted corn with it use 4 pounds of that and be better off
Hii jorge ...u r best but...you talking too much ...and yours practical is to shot ....u r doing so much time pass ....you are alone ..why do this so many taking .... Important topics discuss but mostly boring .....😏 But u r really good ....😊👌 Avoid too much taking .....
George is the best.... we have missed you the last few years... it's great to see you're back... (This video is old... But George is back with great new videos)
But I just want to mention bourbon can be made anywhere in the USA ... not just Kentucky!
Gorge. The “every one loves shop teacher “ that has forgotten more about this than most of us will ever know-- invoked still it my favorite “I’m learning this sh!$ with you” guy. I love this channel 😊
Glad to be here with you, George. Thanks for the education! Best classroom EVER!
I always have a notepad and pen when I watch your videos. Thank you George for all the great information!
Hi George, huge thanks from Wales in the UK, You explain in a way that helps truly understand your teachings. Top job my friend 👍
Hi Gorge! Love the channel. I wanted to clarify for all the viewers that in order to label your whiskey as “bourbon” you DON’T have to be brewed in KY. Bourbon can be made anywhere within the continental U.S. as long as you meet the 51% Corn threshold & introduce the liquid to NEW Oak that has been charred!
Not only in the continental US. The ATF legal definition would recognize spirits brewed in Hawaii, Alaska, and other US territories as bourbon.
George... in my humble opinion... this is your best video that I have been privileged to watch so far... I really gained a tremendous amount of needed knowledge on fermentation here! Thank you!
It's nice knowing we all watch other's videos. STILL IT is a fantastic channel just like here.
Just talked to you George, going to take your advise. I am amazed you answered after only 3 rings, thats great. My next mash I am going to try an all grain mash. Your vids have given me the confidence to give it a try, you are the professor of pot-stills, the Doctor of distilling. the master of mash. the warlock of washes, the guru of grain....you get the point.
Happy distilling from Wayne from Canada.
Hi George. Loved the video. Looking forward to part 2.
Great video George, as always your videos are the best. I'm really enjoying the video especially.
Great video we’re exploring with all grain. Always learn so much from your show. Thanks 👍
Great video, i love that you're an American but you still use the metric system for all us people around the world!
always interesting videos Thanks
You and Jesse have been very helpful
About the fear of you tube discontinuing this distilling content. Both Barley and Hops and Still it are legitimate viewing platforms for up and coming distillers, working toward becoming legitimate licenced distillers. I have learnt a lot from you tube. There are lots of new micro distillery’s starting up all over the world. A lot of these distillery’s, there early interest and roots will be imbedded in you tube channels like Barley and hops and Still it . You tube was the spark that has ignited a passion. In New Zealand where it is easy to do distilling legally as a hobby. In most country’s you can apply for and get licences to distil spirits pay the taxes and sell. Also you may not sell any!Just meet the government requirements. Every body has to find there preferred learning platform. You have no control over the intent of the viewer. If I remember correctly. Barley and hops has a licence to distil fuel alcohol. What flavour you run your mower on is irrelevant. If you get that licence or not. To research and learn how, is part of the journey. My daughter is currently doing a diploma. Some of the required viewing is on You tube You can study university courses on CZcams. So why not how to distil?
As always George a lot of good info.
love your channel George!
The Walter White of Shiners! Love the content George.
Another great video
Already subbed to Still It.
Great video, thanks 👍
Thank you George!
Always know I'm going to learn when I watch you. Thanks George. I also enjoy ordering your products (A shameless plug for you...lol)
Thanks a bunch.
George
I literally just finished a batch of this as I’m posting this comment. Dumped in on an all grain corn to make a sour mash. Can’t wait to taste it.
Good video
Great stuff George 😊. I'm thinking if one grinding cylinder was loaded with a stout spring ? So it could move a bit, Your grinder would work on all grain. Adjust tension of the spring with a piece of all thread. Great content 👍. God Bless y'all
this guy is awesome
you should sync your youtube with LBRY. that way if the videos do get taken down they will already be transfered over where we can watch them
Thanks !!
Ok big fan. You're the best out there fora beginner. Question i have a bunch of malted wheat can I use this to get amylase to break corn starch to sugar also?
Killer videos !
George - GREAT VIDEO! Now a question - if the malted barley adds 130 excess DP/lb/gal, why would it not be calculated as (130 DP/lb/gal) / (5 gal) = 26 DP/lb total for the 5gal batch? Am I thinking incorrectly?
Rye takes 30 Linter to consume itself how much Lintner does flaked corn require? Is there a chart somewhere that has the Lintner scale for various grains and cereals for consumption?
A excel spread sheet would be awesome
The recourse is another platform which thankfully now exist.
This was the video I was waiting for. Thank you so much George.
I'm a fan of do it yourself. Do you have any ideas for a home made grain mill?
Best to buy one made for the purpose. Home made sometimes doesn't work so well.
George
Hello, love your channel !!! I have a question Sir. What is the length ( height) neccessary to run a 1/2 inch copper tubing from the lid of my pot still ,before I bend it down to my condensation bucket.
When is second part coming out ?
George, love your vids you explain thing at my level. Would you consider doing a tutorial on bubble plates at some point? Even better, get your tools out and make one 🙏🏻 then I can learn from your mistakes 😁
Yes please George would love a video on bubble plates. 🙏 🙏🙏
I was thinking about doing a all oat mash but theres not much info on using oats.
Do you have any videos about that? Or can i just treat oats like corn?
Oh I'm talking about whole or steel cut oats not the precooked flakes or rolled
Sir pls add quantities and ingredients in description and on videos
Might have missed it but on cracking your own corn do you leave I the dust I. Ot Wash it out
When you use malted barley, do you use whole grain or milled? TIA
George, you had enough DP with just your malted Rye to convert it and the corn. Why add the 6row?
How would this grain bill ferment out with Angel Yeast? Just curious if there would be a huge difference with the taste.
Happy distilling!
George, your videos are most informative as well as entertaining, thank you for sharing your knowledge and your passion. Could you please show the math involved in coming up with the 8.1 ppg from the 2.8 pounds of corn. I'm not a math whiz and have been pulling out what hair I have left, trying to follow correctly. Many thanks!
7.8 lb minus 5 = 2.8 lb corn left over
1 lb corn = 33 gp/lb/gal so in this case 5 gallons with 5 lb would equal 33 gp.
2.8 lbs would = 41.1 gp for one gallon
divide 41.1 by 5 gallons and that leaves 8.1 gp/lb/gal.
add the 33 gp to 8.1 gp and that = total 41.1 gp in 5 gallons.
Thank you so much, kind sir!
@@WaBowHunter2 , thanks Don for asking this question on the calculation. I was struggling over this one. Here is what I came up with.
Rye: 10 # divided by 5 gal = 2 # per gal times 25 ppg = 50 ppg.
Corn: 7.8 # divided by 5 gal = 1.56 # per gal times 33 ppg = 51.48 ppg
Total= 50 + 51.48 = 101.48
George, awesome videos sir. Keep it up.
Thank You for you explanation!
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing I'm still struggling her to understand where you came up with the 8.1......:( I'm no Math whiz...... I understand why 33 is 33. Just not what equation you should use to get the 8.1.
what wieight of barley malt instead of rye? 2 row or 6 row? Thanks!
I'm having a hard time find those links for the charts, any help?
Bourbon can be made anywhere in the good ole USA!
True.
Correct
Thanks for saying something, I was about to comment to George. Kentucky is not a requirement for making Bourbon!
Excuse me if i missed it, but i never saw a video about a fluid grain extraxt. Don't you use that? To me it seems a very easy way to make whisky.
Does unmalated rye have the same taste as malted, and it's much cheaper.
The 31 gravity points . That's per pound of corn per gallon?
Where do you buy white corn cracked 6-8 piece/kernels?
Good videos. Shame distilling is illegal in my part of the world. ;)
How about providing a source for the malted grains.
Bourbon was originally made from maize or what they call Indian corn. Be fun to try if you can find it.
Whole Book - How To Brew by John Palmer - kvisit.com/7wE/9NgG - Chart - ibb.co/bFfPzsp
Great link
George
Correct most bourbon is currently made in Kentucky. However bourbon was first made here in the US in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Believe it or not. Check out Wigle whiskey‘s in Pittsburgh PA
Not a big fan of Google or CZcams anymore George with their political leanings. (same company) We need something better. I'd visit your website if you kept all of your videos there. I'd suggest keeping copies of everything if you aren't already. Your information is invaluable to many of us. I've learned a great deal from you and have had great success.
Can't find much on steam rolled barley?
Hi George, I'm trying to o get the same result as you for GP can you tell me where I'm going wrong for the corn 7.8÷5×33=51.48 and for the Rye 10÷5×25=50 Total GP 101.5
yea thats exactly what i got, i cant follow his math.
George - if the malted barley adds 130 excess DP/lb/gal, why would it not be calculated as (130 DP/lb/gal) / (5 gal) = 26 DP/lb total for the 5gal batch? Am I thinking incorrectly?
This DP per pond of grain not gallons of water. Doesn't matter how may gallons of water are there. The DP remains the same.
Bourbon def doesn’t have to be made in Kentucky. It can be made anywhere in America.
George when you say grain, what kind of grain? Is rye like ryegrass seeds? Also the grain mill is nice can you say where to purchase it?
Evidently he doesn’t answer. Puts his phone number out there. Complains about annoying emails and calls but won’t respond to most comments. 🤦
A little different subject.. Clearing the wash..Has anyone ever tried running + and - DC current (separately of course) to clarify. Even two tanks and switch polarity. I anyone knows, its you. Thanks
George, Do you ever do a "Step Mash" in order to take advantage of the enzymes present in the grain other than amylase?
Yes. Several times.
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing I am a BIG fan of step mashing... not only does one get all of those additionally helpful enzymes, but I personally find it much easier to "sneak" up on 154 F than to try to hit it directly without over shooting the mark... I guess I just get in too much of a hurry when I try to bust straight there... lol!
Got to love that g p p p p g
Does anyone have a copy of or know where I can get a copy of a chart listing the diastatic power of ALL grains? The only ones I can find only talk about malts. I want a comprehensive list so I can confirm my diastatic power. Thanks in advance!
There are online calculators for this at www.brewersfriend.com/brewhouse-efficiency/ and www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/
7.8 lbs of flaked corn, 1 lb 6 row barley and 10 lbs malted rye for a 5 gallon wort and a target gravity of 1.093 yields,
Gravity at 100% Efficiency: 1.143 - max
Gravity at 75% Efficiency:
1.107
Brew House Efficiency: 65.03%
Points / Pound / Gallon (ppg):
24.7
If George could get a conversion efficiency of 75% then he would get the following potential results,
Estimated Pre Boil OG: 1.083
Estimated Original Gravity: 1.107
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.030
Estimated Alcohol By Volume: 10.14%
Assuming a pre-boil wort of 6.5 gals, a final wort of 5 gals converted at 75% efficiency and then fermented with a standard Yeast Alcohol Tolerance of 72%.
How did you get the 8.1ppg? I followed you all the way til that point
I’m with you there. Using his terminology, points from the corn should be 51.48. Trying to get the same numbers. I’m sure it’s doesn’t make a hill of beans difference.
isn't flaked corn already hydrolyzed?
I have a question i have some flaked rye and it has a blue tent to it, is it bad or ok to use
Not sure. I would not use it if it has any discolored tint to it.
George
Hi George I'm new to this and I'm sure anyone can answer this. The corn being 33 gp and doing a 5 gallon batch, where did the initial 5 lb of corn amount come from. Is it a standard starting equation 1gallon per lb of corn?
Rob Johnson- I had the same question, so I went to John Palmer's chart. The chart is "Table 9 - Typical Malt Yields in Points/Pound/Gallon". George stated that this is Points Per Gallon. It's really Points Per Pound in a Gallon of Mash. So, George's math is correct. The important part is that it's the amount of Malt and not the amount of Mash. George, please correct me if I'm wrong.
The Walter White of Moonshine 😉
Hi George
Is there an app for conversion ?
www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/ and www.brewersfriend.com/brewhouse-efficiency/
Can an electric blender work to crush the grain? If not we're can this grain crusher be purchased at? To avoid the noise are they designed with a hand crank?
I recommend going online to 'Adventures In Homebrewing' and find the 'Cereal Killer Grain Mill' it's a great mill and the price is right. It comes with a hand crank so you can choose hand cranking or using a drill. There are other brands if you want to shop around.
You will make flour using a blender. You would be better off with a pillowcase and a hammer or rolling pin. You just want to gently crush/crack it, not pulverize it.
help me please someone help me please could i do say 60 percent cracked corn and do 25 percent malted rye and 15 percent 6-row barley . lol im new to this been doing research and leaves me with more questions but made brandy few times and came out good i used my homemade wine and one i infused a berry flavor after distilling it which im no expert lol and the other is aging in some oak wood chips in mason jars and thats easy but maybe cause im new to whiskey and bourbon it seems to be more science to it i would think its ok to add two products that turn starches to sugars i think maybe might be better but again i never made could someone help me on this dont want to drop the ball on this any feed back please and thank u
What is the point behind cooking the flaked corn? Flaked corn is pre gelatinized. Just curious. Thanks.
It may be gelantinized but it is not hydrolyzed.
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing flaked corn is already 90% starch converted, does hydrolyzing help get it higher than that? Sorry for the questions, my brain isn't getting the hydrolyzing part.
@@bsbru88 Not sure I agree with you. I have never seen any flaked product that has been converted already. It is however gelatinized already so any cooking time is reduced. Hydrolyzing is nothing more than creating a mash from the flaked product. This step releases the starch content from the flakes. Then by using amylase those starches are converted.
George
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing Yes but the flaking process has already released the starch from the kernel (that's what gelatinizing does, it also removes the germ, oil and most of the protein). Thus the flakes only need to be hydrated and warmed to around 145-155 F so that the amylase enzymes can do the conversion.
Bourbon does not need to be made in Kentucky, but must be made in the US
Have I missed something, 33ppg for corn and he is using 5 gal to me that is 5 X 33 165ppg total, or is this me being stupid?
5lbs in one gallon would be 165. 5lbs in 5 gallons is still the same as 1lb in 1 gallon= 33
I know this is years late but did anyone see the MST3K reference on page 176 of book for John Palmer’s - Ho To Brew? 🤣
Sorry George this is probably a dumb question but why 90 points?
This would leave me with ~13% ABV . I find this the easiest to work with with great results.
George
Unrelated to the topic but... Almost everything has sugar in it... I was thinking of doing something unique, like a shamrock & clover type of mash with barley.... Dunno if it's ever been done or could be done. Have you ever heard of such a thing?
Interesting idea! We make haylage out of clover and the surger helps ferment it. Although, it might not have high enough sugar contact to make it worth it in the long run, $...
@@bradthesing
That's so cool! ☘️
Im thinking the shamrock and clover and barley would have a real earthy, springtime kind of taste.
Yeah I figured that the sugar content to help ferment would be pretty high. But I figure that'd be some really interesting brew.
Now that’s my kind of shamrock shake
I belong to a few content producer that are free thinking, most have gone to bit-chute. It’s not monitored
How do know how many DP is for the corn? Is it 30 too? Is it 30 DP per pound?
Corn has zero dp but requires 30, he states that and also states that the reason for the malted barley
Check about 9:30 mark
@@slelliott14 yes I understand that corn has zero DP. I was wondering how do you know how much DP is needed to convert the starches in the corn to sugar.
Gotcha...I think that came from the chart
@shadow4280 - Sorry but I'm with you. Love the work this and the other channels are doing but this is the one question I can't seem to work out. Awesome! there is 205 DP left over - I can now add an infinite volume of pre-gelatanised corn and all its starch will be converted to sugar??? Surely there is a DP to volume ratio necessary for this to be effective? Can anyone help me and shadow to understand this?
Interesting but I think it might be a good idea to stick to metric SI units sir.
George- I'm seriously confused by the math to estimate the Pre Boil Gravity. My calculation of your recipe came out different than yours. My process is Pounds of Malt * Typical PPG = Total potential extract points. So, for your recipe- (7.8*33) + (10*25)=507.4. Estimated Pre Boil Gravity = 1.057. Which means your going to need to add some sugar to get to 1.090. Maybe my process is completely wrong.
George- I think I figured out why I'm confused. My process gives Pre Boil Gravity and not OG for fermentation. This is too hard... Sorry for the confusion.
Using the calculator at www.brewersfriend.com/allgrain-ogfg/ with George's grain bill I get,
Estimated Pre Boil OG:
1.083
Estimated Original Gravity:
1.107
Estimated Final Gravity:
1.030
Estimated Alcohol By Volume:
10.14%
Assuming a pre-boil wort of 6.5 gals, a final wort of 5 gals converted at 75% efficiency and then fermented with a standard Yeast Alcohol Tolerance of 72%.
So you’re making a Rye
Thought bourbon had to be distilled anywhere in the US?
Not to speak for George but I think he said the actual name bourbon is a Kentucky name
@@garyhale9268 at 3:50 "George"said "to be a bourbon, it's got to really be brewed in Kentucky "... just saying..
Bourbon has to be 51 percent corn malted barley and rye it has to be made in America and aged for I think 2 or maybe 4 years in new charred oak cask. I’m pretty sure that is the only demands the gov has for it to be called bourbon. Could be wrong but bourbon is kinda my expertise
@@garyhale9268 that’s not completely accurate most historians say that the name bourbon comes from bourbon street in New Orleans because that was where the distribution for whisky was located
@@MadNlGER straight bourbon must be aged at least 2 years .. the rest of your description was correct
I have a headache 😮
Honesty George i think you have a tad too much rye in your batch. I know you do. For example your close too 8 pounds corn and 10 pounds rye. You should only use 4 pounds rye. You can put malted corn with it use 4 pounds of that and be better off
Thanks
George and Popcorn Sutton are cousins
Get a BitChute account too.
Bourbon is American.
You shouldn't have to worry about CZcams shutting you down unless you make it aware that you are a conservative.
Hii jorge ...u r best but...you talking too much ...and yours practical is to shot ....u r doing so much time pass ....you are alone ..why do this so many taking .... Important topics discuss but mostly boring .....😏 But u r really good ....😊👌
Avoid too much taking .....
George, you talk a lot, you do a lot of practicals, you are very good, but stop talking more, plus
Uhhh.. Home Distilling is not legal in the US. Why do people need to be misleading?