Great video dude, love those octatonic chords! There's one thing in the mode 3 example that seems to be slightly off. The middle set of 3 notes is shifted down by a semi-tone to the original mode, leading to an F natural which isn't part of the mode. That's why there's so much chromaticism in the melody giving it that jazz vibe.
Hi Joseph, You are right in your analysis of my playing. The error was in my reading and playing though and not in my score analysis. The chord I name and play as F minor is in fact an Ab Augmented 6th chord (Ab, C, F#). The accidental from the F# is carried over from earlier in the bar and I misread it as F natural whilst filming (like a donut). These things happen when the camera is on, you'll find plenty more here on the channel I'm sure! Check out the score for further clarification and you'll see it is indeed supposed to be Mode 3: E F# G G# Bb B C D D#. Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and I hope you found some value in this video despite the daft mistake! Cheers
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition yes I've been studying him since I discovered Holdsworth in the 80s. I studied at the Grove School of Music in the late 80s and your vids are helping me relearn much. I've been using mode 3 for a long time especially as a passing tension in between chords. Or changes if tonal center or a resolution. Loving your channel and it's influence on my continuing and oft twisted journey to sculpt my own voice.
I wanted to share my thoughts with someone In a Natural Major, the seven chords have specific functions I,iii,vi - tonic ii,IV - subdominant V,vii - dominant but what is happening in Harmonic Major? (ionian flat 6) in harmonic minor there is even worse because ionian #5 has no perfect fifth ,so, where is dominant for this mode? On vii degree or nowhere?
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition don't You feel an overwhelming need to investigate it? :D Almost like Luton in Discworld Noir :> Im sure that You know crazy music professors :D
@@kukumuniu5658 I;ve given up pulling my hair out over the nomenclature and syntax of theory. If I can play it I'm a very happy boy, regardless of whether I can correctly name it or not. Hope you're well!
I do and I don't. It depends on the context. Dream scenario would be that every finger placement is so accurate that we don't need any muting. However in reality we need some muting here and there, especially when using distortion. I would suggest practicing it as perfectly as possible, but in the heat of the moment just do what feels right!
3:12 You said lydian mode is the brightest mode of the major scale. Ionian mode seems to be more bright to me. Could you please explain? Great lesson, thank you.
This is a Gary Burton idea. The Lydian is 'brighter' than Ionian as the 4th is raised or 'brightened'. I discuss this in great detail in this video is you're interested in this concept: czcams.com/video/-PxE1kWoeBw/video.html
Hi Veteran Hammer! You are right in your analysis of my playing. The error was in my reading and playing though and not in my score analysis. The chord I name and play as F minor is in fact an Ab Augmented 6th chord (Ab, C, F#). The accidental from the F# is carried over from earlier in the bar and I misread it as F natural whilst filming (like a donut). These things happen when the camera is on, you'll find plenty more here on the channel I'm sure! Check out the score for further clarification and you'll see it is indeed supposed to be Mode 3: E F# G G# Bb B C D D#. Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and I hope you found some value in this video despite the daft mistake! Cheers
Great video dude, love those octatonic chords! There's one thing in the mode 3 example that seems to be slightly off. The middle set of 3 notes is shifted down by a semi-tone to the original mode, leading to an F natural which isn't part of the mode. That's why there's so much chromaticism in the melody giving it that jazz vibe.
Hi Joseph, You are right in your analysis of my playing. The error was in my reading and playing though and not in my score analysis. The chord I name and play as F minor is in fact an Ab Augmented 6th chord (Ab, C, F#). The accidental from the F# is carried over from earlier in the bar and I misread it as F natural whilst filming (like a donut). These things happen when the camera is on, you'll find plenty more here on the channel I'm sure! Check out the score for further clarification and you'll see it is indeed supposed to be Mode 3: E F# G G# Bb B C D D#. Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and I hope you found some value in this video despite the daft mistake! Cheers
Much needed expansion of knowledge for me. Thanks!
Do check out more Messiaen, absolutely mind-blowing! Cheers for taking the time to comment
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition yes I've been studying him since I discovered Holdsworth in the 80s. I studied at the Grove School of Music in the late 80s and your vids are helping me relearn much. I've been using mode 3 for a long time especially as a passing tension in between chords. Or changes if tonal center or a resolution. Loving your channel and it's influence on my continuing and oft twisted journey to sculpt my own voice.
Man this video is amazing. Thanks a lot
Messiaen is a hero, as are you for taking the time to comment! Cheers!
Thank you so much
You're most welcome, I love sharing this stuff! Cheers
8:37 is really juicy. Nice video :-)
Isn't it!? Messiaen is next level. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment!
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition it has a very film score essence about it. especially the last 3 chords
I wanted to share my thoughts with someone
In a Natural Major, the seven chords have specific functions
I,iii,vi - tonic
ii,IV - subdominant
V,vii - dominant
but what is happening in Harmonic Major?
(ionian flat 6)
in harmonic minor there is even worse because
ionian #5 has no perfect fifth ,so,
where is dominant for this mode?
On vii degree or nowhere?
I have no idea, far too much theory for me ;)
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition don't You feel
an overwhelming need to investigate it? :D
Almost like Luton in Discworld Noir :>
Im sure that You know crazy music professors :D
@@kukumuniu5658 I;ve given up pulling my hair out over the nomenclature and syntax of theory. If I can play it I'm a very happy boy, regardless of whether I can correctly name it or not. Hope you're well!
When you play legato do you let ur pinkie hit the string below it. Idk if that bad or not
I do and I don't. It depends on the context. Dream scenario would be that every finger placement is so accurate that we don't need any muting. However in reality we need some muting here and there, especially when using distortion. I would suggest practicing it as perfectly as possible, but in the heat of the moment just do what feels right!
3:12 You said lydian mode is the brightest mode of the major scale. Ionian mode seems to be more bright to me.
Could you please explain? Great lesson, thank you.
This is a Gary Burton idea. The Lydian is 'brighter' than Ionian as the 4th is raised or 'brightened'. I discuss this in great detail in this video is you're interested in this concept: czcams.com/video/-PxE1kWoeBw/video.html
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition Thank you very much for the explanation and the video link. Subbed.
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Messiaen is the man!
Добрый день. Вы нарушили Mode3 7:18 Gb,F,E,Eb ?
Hi Veteran Hammer! You are right in your analysis of my playing. The error was in my reading and playing though and not in my score analysis. The chord I name and play as F minor is in fact an Ab Augmented 6th chord (Ab, C, F#). The accidental from the F# is carried over from earlier in the bar and I misread it as F natural whilst filming (like a donut). These things happen when the camera is on, you'll find plenty more here on the channel I'm sure! Check out the score for further clarification and you'll see it is indeed supposed to be Mode 3: E F# G G# Bb B C D D#. Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and I hope you found some value in this video despite the daft mistake! Cheers
Lush movement!!!
Thanks dude 😎 messiaen is the boy