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Hamelin plays Rachmaninoff - Sonata No. 2, op. 36 Audio + Sheet music
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2011
- Sergei Rachmaninoff's fiery Piano Sonata No. 2, as revised and reduced in 1931 by the composer. Played by Marc-André Hamelin, live in 2000.
1st mvt: 0:05
2nd mvt: 7:16
3rd mvt: 13:14
Check out the amazing video of Zoltán Kocsis playing the original, 1913 version of this piece as well!: • Zoltan Kocsis plays Ra...
this is probably the most orchestrous grand piano i've ever heard...
the bass register is unbelievably clear and strong.
wonderful recording, thanks for sharing!
And extremely fast 😂
Yes, it's very fast, but I think it conveys a message (perhaps different from the slower versions', though, but it's still fascinating). It is searingly intense, ardently emotional and, thus, very musical.
I have always agreed, Balint. Your posting this video changed my life for the so much better. I have never explored emotional depth as well as I have when listening to this particular performance. I am showing it to a friend now! :)
It has taken me eight years to understand this sonata from top to bottom. Eight years, and that was for the 1913 version until I met the revised version. I fell asleep to this piece on the school bus. I cannot express just how much it currently resonates with me. I wish others could share the same.
P. Cosmore You are so right. Second movement is breathtaking. And people think piano concerto #2 is the most beautiful thing Rachmaninoff wrote!? He can squeeze an entire world into two bars. I find the two bars around 11:44/45 (Tempo 1) very chilling.
We do share the same. It changed my life.
Way to few people actually do with Rachmaninoff :( He is so underrated
@@MatGreen90 nah Rach 2 is still up there for me, along with his 3rd, though this is definitely on the same level regardless
this grand piano is absolutely amazing, it sounds like a whole orchestra. wonderful and artistic.
The bass note at 17:40 is so intense! O_O
Fully Intense i can't stop hearing it again and again
No doubt it was intense, but there was quite a bit of distortion in this recording. It made it more dramatic and ear breaking.
thebrainnugget haha :D generally, i like those little distortions in this recording, it makes it more powerful
Gamma1734
No doubt. I enjoy them too.
Gamma1734 THEY ARE NOT DISTORTIONS AT ALL. THEY ARE EXPRESSIONS BASED UPON MUSICAL PRINCIPALS EACH WITH A FUNCTION. HOROWITZ DISTORTS, HAMELIN EXPRESSES.
I have to admit, I was expecting more applause.
Banana Hunter Pro DID YOU TUNE IN TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC OR THE APPLAUSE?
IF NO ONE APPLAUDED, GOD WAS STILL LISTENING, WITH THE ANGELS AS WELL.
The power of Rachmaninoff... I'm speechless.
You listen to the first few seconds and you know it's going to kick ass.
17:40 too loud for the mic lol
This is one of my favorite pieces ever!
I can’t believe that colossal sound came out of a single piano.
such delicate touch in terms of dynamics. beautiful contours. simply amazing.
I love the way Rakhmaninov closes the 1st movement in this revised 1931 version (& which also occurs in the Horowitz 1913 & 1931 fused version) -- the last 2 chords are the mediant, III (D-flat major), & then the tonic, i (B-flat minor).
Those last chords sound like an exploding bomb :)
brilliant pianist, I've heard other versions but Hamelin really puts his whole character into it, and that character is very good.
He made interpreted this piece as accurate as much as he played this piece quite with a speed. Think about how hard he must have been practicing to get this result done!
13:37
one chord.
This is the first crazy not mozart or beethoven kind of classical piece I heard as a child at 10 years old. I couldn't even comprehend that it was a human playing this. It scared me in a very weird way.
Please call the piano ambulance the grand piano needs a 6 week rehab measure.
Tough times demand tough songs. Even if I was forced to play piano every day for 20 years I still couldn't be able to capture this absolute magic. But watching the sheet music is a lot of fun!
Can you play it now? It’s been a decade
What's not to love about this excellent iteration? Absolutely beautiful. :-)
this is the best thing I heard on internet
such intensity! a really intense car ride.
Hamelin rushes the dense passages which damages the 1st mov more than the 3rd. Amazing he can maintain clarity but listeners miss some beautiful details because it flies right pass us!
Foo Tien pauh THIS IS REFERED TO AS PORTAMENTO AND IS THE ESSENTIAL PART OF EXPRESSION.
OTHERWISE, YOU CAN TURN ON A METRONOME AND LISTEN THAT TICKING AWAY.
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK ALL YOUR LIFE.
you just don´t understand portamento expression. it is too advanced for you right now. maybe in 20 years from how you will get it.
Lol. It seems you have all the experience so no need lol.
YOUR COMMENTS ILLUSTRATE YOUR LACK OF MUSICAL ESPRESSION.
GO OUT AND BUY YOUR SELF A MATRONOME AND SIT BACK AND LISTEN.
WHEN YOU ARE TIRED OF THAT, COME BACK AND LISTEN TO HAMELIN AGAIN.
Ron you just making yourself look stupid here lol.
I like the picture of Hamelin in the end after this is xtremely difficult piece of piano music ,he is smiling .
Van Cliburn returned to the USA after winning the Tchaikovsky competition in Russia. He toured the US giving recitals. He appeared at Syracuse U. (1960?) The recital was sold out but seats on the stage were sold. I sat next to the piano and could watch Mr. Cliburn's expressions as he thrilled the audience with his performances. The encore was the Rach Sonata No 2. Maybe the greatest performance of anything I've ever heard. He dramatically leaned foward, upper body across the piano @ end.
I had the chance to listen it live, what an amazing experiance.
That audience walked away deaf that evening after that final bass note
Great job of making the development of the piece meaningful, and playing in a colorful, picturesque manner. Maybe less fiery than I was hoping for, but his phrasing, color, and development made up for that. I appreciate his tenuto, and his assertive left hand voice.
less fiery??? are you kidding?It is not less fiery than Horowitz who was considered the best all times in this.Rachmaninoff himself changed many things in the Sonata after Horowitz had given him some remarks (between World's 2 greatest virtuoses!)
The buildup at the end of the development that leads into the recap of the first movement feels perfectly composed. I've never heard SO MUCH MUSIC in so little space. It progresses as if it's been written since the beginning of time.
In fact, the entire first movement is so structurally coherent that I frankly can't believe it. There are no words.
I agree that the development of the first movement is very densely composed and the recapitulation is very well prepared. If you like dense music I would recommend you Mahler's symphonies. For instance the first movement of the sixth symphony also features an extremely well prepared recapitulation, and I would dare to argue that the motivic density is even higher than in this sonata. The first movement of his 7th symphony is ultra-dense as a whole, there is barely any note without thematic content or relation. It is really so incredibly coherent, it's scary. However his music is really complex and you might not like it at first hearing or more general, symphonic music or Mahler's tonal language in particular.
joernbroeker I absolutely adore Mahler for exactly this reason, and know all of his works - symphonies, his song cycles, and even the piano quartet - better than perhaps any other composer's music. Very good suggestion.
+Dylan Hewlett In terms of form, the first movement might be the most astonishing composition I've ever encountered.
+Giray Duzel Beethoven's sonatas are still better.
Dylan Hewlett found you on CZcams by chance !! Waouh !
And thats why music is so wonderful.
12:05 so beautiful.. like a melody that never ends
Just amazing
An amazing sonata
9:20 That note killed me.
6:14 Debussy takes the wheel...
The best pianist ever. There are many great pianists but I think M.A.Hamelin is the greatest guy in every aspect.
Techniques, The number of pieces he can play, The ability for transcription and learning very fast, etc...
Mindblowing...Captivating from beginning to finish.
How Mr. Hamelin plays the "presto" at the end without breaking a finger, I do not know! It scarcely sounds humanly possible. And what sonorities in this sonata-almost enough to distract me from the feeling of weepiness that I always find in Rachmaninoff. (As Aaron Copeland said: "He sounds self-pitying.") But the rather astringent first movement seems to defy this, and so does this little interlude that precedes and follows the middle movement. But this is worth watching and listening to for the pianist's skill.
Marc Vincenti
For me it's good, but not amazing. I think Horowitz's is the best available on youtube. And that was when he was 80 years old. But still, this isn't bad at all.
utubuser10 Yes your right... I did't know what I was writing....
Hamelin is a genius and a great talent, and plays this exceptionally well, but still for me Horowitz was better :P
this is my favourite piano piece ever written :) so full of soul...a masterpiece...so beautiful :) i dont find it self-pitying...its full of mystery and is a journey deep into the soul :)
Eugen Stukov in my opinion, its too much of a musical masterpiece, to abuse it for techniqual performance...hamelins version is faster and more furious, and he doesnt see some nuances and just plays through them...
I'll take "self-pitying" Rachmaninov over boring banal Copeland any day.
this reminds my so bad of my childhood😢
My mother listened it with me a lot.
I loved it as I love it right now.
But it makes me so mad about all this popular music written for money and fame.
Rachmaninoff has written it from his Heart and this is what I respect and like- music from really deep inside.
This is a masterpiece
Extremely fast wow 😯
Wow, once again, Rachmaninov blows my mind
I want that score! Love the design on the front page 😍
I think it's amazing he can play so fast. I just feel like it's a bit
(A LOT) rushed in a few places.
0:05
7:15
13:14
Unbelievable performance! Hamelin joins together the intensity of the true artist with the fury of the virtuoso.
love that opening
This piece is a beast!
Thank you for posting :)
17:25 What did he do to his hands?!
Wonderful playing.
thank you very much
just insane...LOVE IT...!!!!!!
Excellent !!!!
17:40: explosion
Very good performance. Excellent pace control. In fact this is not the most demanding of Rach's works (of course!), and not the most difficult version of this Sonata as well. This is the reduced version, reduced by Rach himself. There are two more versions, the unreduced original and the Horowitz-tailored ones.
Never judge them, Hamelin, Rach and Horowitz, as humans.
from 16:00 to the end....unbelievable
wow!
From 17:34, a typical Rachmaninov ending. Very similar to those used in Rach 2, 3rd movement, and Rach 1, 3rd movement as well.
Interesting. Hamlin displays the virtuosic aspect of this piece in terms of sheer velocity and control (as does Horowitz); Kocis displays another aspect of this piece by varying the tempos more dramatically and playing it more in the fashion of a piano concerto. Kocis plays the original1913 version (which I prefer) whereas Hamlin plays the shortened and revised 1931 revision; in the original, one can hear many apparent references to the concerti, especially numbers 3 and 4. There seem to be fewer such references in the revised. Does anyone know of a recording of Rachmaninoff himself playing this piece? I learned much about the man and his music after hearing him play the concertos and the Rhapsody; I would like to do the same with this marvelous sonata.
A fine performance !!!!
Hamelin is amazing !
Jan
@MrStrav81 I agree. His recording of it would be just as superlative and awe-inspiring as his Medtner Sonatas, I believe.
I want whatever MAH was smoking when he played this
Welled played, and I recognize the genius of this sonata. Although I must admit it has never done much for me in a way for example Medtner's Sonata Minacciosa or Prokofiev's 8th sonata has done. I don't know what it is about this, but no matter how many times I listen to it, it fails to really capture me in any meaningful way. Great performance though.
Recommend Boris Giltburg's performance
Interesting, as I think this sonata captured me as quite as much as the great Sonata Minacciosa or Prokofiev Sonata 8. There is a really special feeling to it, which I would have a hard time trying to describe. I don't think it gets to the level of Scriabin 8 or Medtner Sonata Night Wind though !
Im still crying
@nathanscoleman Unfortunately he hasn't played the 1st Sonata, or at least it wasn't recorded. I'd love to hear him playing that one, I like that Sonata so much.
from 0:35 to 0:41 is a passage from one his piano concertos, don't remember which one.
As a point of reference... the average performance of this work is 22-24mins... and this performance is about 17.5mins.. incredibly fast!
@madlovba3 me too! It was the first Rach piece I ever spent my own money on ... I still have that Boosey & Hawkes blue copy!
17:34 wtf how does he play that fast
He's Hamelin that's why
0:51
Pardon my imperfect English. Congratulations for having proposed the superb interpretation of Hamelin. And, most of all, thank you for entering the musical score. It is my intention - hoping not to get unwelcome thing - to use it in my series "On piano. A sound, a myth. ", so that my visitors to CZcams can see the complexity of compositional writing of Rachmaninoff. I hope you don't consider this my Act abuse, but a cultural exchange. Thanks, Bálint Madlovics, by Domenico Vinicio Magris, ITALY (Maniago - Pordenone).
Domenico Vinicio Magris, Your English is perfect, also wonderful insightful comment, by a very intelligent person!!
Prelude in E Minor is my favorite Alkan but there are many others that come close. There are only a few pianists alive that can play them..
I'm a 14 year-old boy willing to play this by next year.... anyone wishing for me a good luck?
@@malek4485 I used to share this account with my brother (hence this comment), and I'm no piano player myself, but from the things I hear he plays, I've definately heard him play this!
I like Hamelin. I think he's freaking awesome. Am I only allowed to voice my opinion if I like the performance? Can there be no differing of opinion? I'm commenting on this performance only, and if you disagree with my opinion, please offer yours.
I've played around with my laptop volume settings but can't seem to be rid of the horrible compression (volume pulls back) that occurs on this recording in the louder sections.
As for the performance itself, I still prefer the Simon Trpceski's recording that is considerably clearer and more sensitive.
Not kidding, this is the best interpretion of this piece I have ever heard! No offense, but others couldn't play as fluent and standard as this interpretion. Very well done, good job!!
Ah, so amazing. I would love to catch this performance live
a touch of Debussy around 5:45
I like the energy of this interpretation, I think it helps this particular piece
unfortunately, the quality of the sound is woefully compressed
incredibile, impressionante.
i think this is one of my favorites renditions,its one of the most difficult pieces from the repertoire.
I would question anything wikipedia has to say... however, I'll be clearer. The average performance for the original is closer to 25 mins, and for the revised edition closer to 21 mins. I think Horowitz played his version in like 22 mins or so.
I always believe Hamelin is choosing very nice songs (tunes, pieces... etc.) to interprete, and it's always perfect. I especially love this piece, personally.
Pieces, they’re never called songs
@@IEEMAZ_Convoluted_14.2.8.5 Kills me every time I read that word in the context of classical solo piano lmao
Listen to Zoltan Kocsis playing this piece - best interpretation ever!
Ashkenazy's is the best, and Kocsis's is also fantastic.
How about Pogorelich?
hamelin 2129 Pogorelich’s is a joke.
@@EmptyVee00000 wrong..... you have no idea of emotional or spiritual depth if you say that
@@user-pf3ku5ph2p Pogorelich gives a reading of profound emotional depth and kaleidoscopic color with an understanding of the melancholy never far from the surface of Rachmaninoff.
Kocsis is excellent for the original 1913 and surprisingly Cliburn also.
WOW
If and when Mr Hamelin puts out a CD of the Rachmanioff Etudes, Preludes, or complete Sonatas it would positively be a best seller! That also would go for a Scriabin CD of Etudes or Preludes.
que dificil pieza para tocar.pero esta es una de la mejores version que he oido,ahi te va
Watch 1913 version of this sonata. 1913 version is much more difficult than Scarbo in my opinion.
To be honest, i can't believe that the score sounds like that, really! 15:57
he feels it.....:+
Rachmaninov was an outrageous virtuoso. There are only a few players that can have both hands routinely leaping in different directions at different time and he is one. Hamelin is another.
I am actually playing this piece for 3 month, he play it so fast I can barely follow it. Must say, he is a very very good pianist. now I want to see him in person, play the piano. Anyone know where do he teach or play?
truly fiery, direct quite an ear -opener to the Horowitz manner......
Can you play the full sonata? At what speed? How long did you practise for it?
After listening this recording with hamelin and even that with horowitz I clearly prefer the interpretation with Alexander Malofeev from 2019 (China International Music Competition). Malofeev has the perfect balance between tempo and musically expression !!
if you dont understand it then look at what he was thinking when he made that or, learn it, I tend to find a musics true beauty when im learning it.
Now I get why Rachmaninoff said he felt his body mutilated when cutting off parts in his revisions of his own works. It hurts, not only because the pieces feel mutilated themselves, regarding its structure and development, but because those cuts were caused by the hostile "critics" to Rachmaninoff's music, which caused him so much insecurities in his compositional power. Good thing twitter didn't exist back then.
(maybe the only revision I agree with him is that of his First Pianoconcerto, lol. On the other hand, I crave to listen to the original 45 min version of his first sonata)
(also, he lost the opportunity to write D - Bb in the very last two notes of the very upper voice haha)
No worries. I could offer more of an analysis based on my view of the piece, but suffice it to say, it's really not necessary. He plays this incredibly well technically, with great ease and command. I just think he could "stop and smell the roses", or in this case, slow down a bit so we can hear more of the drama. :)
HAMELIN! HAMELIN! HAMELIN!
I think that the 3rd movement could be a little bit slower to enhance some of the performance qualities other than being "fiery", but still a really great performance.
The rhythm of the beginning recalls Medtner's second piano concerto (the first movement) :) They were very good friends too and Rachmaninov considered him as his greatest contemporary composer!