Ghost's Tobias Forge: Creating Cardinal Copia, Killing Papa Emeritus, 'Prequelle' + More
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2018
- #Ghost mastermind #TobiasForge is Loudwire’s Metal #ArtistoftheYear. To discuss Ghost’s monumental 2018, Forge joined @grahamwire to reveal all about #Prequelle, creating #CardinalCopia, killing all three #PapaEmeritus’ and much more.
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I laughed out loud when “Was it hard to give the other Papa’s the axe?”
Immediate “No.” 😂
“They weren’t contributing, and now they are.”
Brilliant. Just brilliant. 😂 I love it.
You do know they're all played by Tobias right?
His little "heh heh" kills me every time.
same here..
You can feel the evil that lays beneath
i know right
Same 😩
Wow, this was a really great interview. I'm used to people just asking "Why the makeup?" or "Are you really a Satanist?" instead of actual cognitive questions. Refreshing.
There is just something very soothing about his voice...
asmr - ghost incomming ^^
Right!!! I could just listen to him talk for hours.
its that accent is what it is. a smooth Swedish accent
Nita, i agree. He has a lovely voice.
Right, he could read audio books for children and I buy them.
Opus eponymous: the birth of the anti-Christ
Infestissumam: the anti-Christ is born and is walking the earth
Meloria:the world during the apocalypse and the anti-Christ is in charge
Prequelle: Black Death and I hate my former band mates
Funny
why is this accurate tho
Perhaps because it was made to coincide with events that were happening in his life at the moment
XD
As much as I really dig the new album, it was missing the church feeling. Hopefully the next album goes back to those roots
Lets all take a moment to appreciate how good is Graham at interviewing possibly the most mysterious genius in modern rock n roll.
I just can't understand the hate for Ghost from some people. At no point have they pretended to be something they are not, they came, played their music, did their thing, found their audience in people bored of the modern metal/rockscene and started to grow. Some people speak as if they have done something bad or wrong and some hate them for absolutely nothing, jealousy I presume.
I hear ya! Ghost are awesome and are far and away my favourite band. I think some people can't get over the imagery. They seem to think they should sound metal as fuck just because they look like they should stereotypically. Ghost are one of the most innovative and fresh sounding bands in well over a decade...maybe longer. Open your minds and expand your musical palet. If you have Ghost, then you have everything!
Lehtokurppa Von Fön yeah good point here... as for me, I can’t help being very jealous, and I think that is why I love them so much, I mean jealousy is not a bad thing in the first place, it is one of the best recognition of something great
Overhype is the problem. Like anything that gets too big, it's really easy to get sick of something before you've even experienced it. It's like how many people outright refused to watch Breaking Bad, cos everyone else wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. With Ghost specifically, I think it's probably cos everything they do has been done before, and better, by bands who seem more... Sincere, maybe. And that'd be fine if it weren't for the fans talking about Ghost like they're the unquestionable saviours of music. I don't dislike them (I'd probably listen to them sometimes if the vocals were more to my tastes), but there's also definitely something kinda irritating about them, in a weirdly abstract kinda way.
How about its embarrassing. A super corny gimmick band.
Lehtokurppa Von Fön Ghost just pandered to the demographic of teenagers who are into pop-rock and colorful aesthetics.
Saw Ghost in live last week. The contrast between the character he plays on stage and this interview is immeasurable ... Tobias Forge is a very strange perso. But I think that's why he is defenitely a good artist. With all his insecurities and mystery.
By the way, is voice is so relaxing to listen.
I love Ghost, and I absolutely support him hiding his face. Ghost is Tobias' idea, but its not about him. And I appreciate it so much he understands that. The LORE of the band is so much fun and UNIQUE in the music industry now, having an actual face behind that could break the magic. Imagine if JK Rowling showef up in the Potters stories as a character herself? Would be weird.
So I applaud how he understands this. Im sure that bcs of the lawsuit he just trying to connect the band to his name more, but its not about him getting fame.
He just did 2 interviews dressed like Prince in sunglasses..but that obviously was a dressed character as well
WHO WANTS TO WALK WITH TOBIAS?
@@Spatino101 nah, i have never walked with you XDD
I can see it now: Tobias is quickly going to become a sex symbol in the rock genre. There’s already fan fiction.
Well he is sexy as hell so....
Not Tobias as himelf though.
@@xScooterAZx yeah, but that's a good thing, fics about real people are weird
Some cursed, some wholesome and all about his characters.
I used a collection of high end graphics editing software's totaling several thousands of dollars and hours of processing to reveal Tobias's face from this video and it turns out, he doesn't have a face.
satan took it as payment, it happens
Fuck. I just lost like $500 to this guy that said he had top secret photos of Tobias. Well now I know why his username was "iwillscamyouforphotosoftobiasforge69" *sigh*
I don't mind the hidden face..I am just happy he does interviews! He is so eloquent, smart and has the loveliest voice. 🖤
@Juan Bautista nah..
Ghost deserves to win both Grammys.
Firepower was the metal album of the year, Ghost isn't even metal.
@@tomtanaka841 Ghost isn't nominated in metal, don't see the point of your comment.
@@tomtanaka841 people say black sabbath wasn't metal... Although they were progenitors of the origin of metal...
When the curtian falls is better than rats imo. And I'm a big ghost fan
@@tomtanaka841 no shit bro. They are nominated in the rock category
Damn. Tobias sounds like he has been through Hell and back 5 times in this interview. I hope he figures his stuff out and gets through the growing pains. I wasn’t a huge fan of Prequelle but I do really like the band, Ghost is something special. I’m excited to see what they do next
03:00 papa voice
Hah! That was great...
Tobias Forge. Mastermind. Chameleon extraordinaire. World's best actor? Best director? Genius at work. Respect. Nothing but! Love ya. 🦋
I think that Tobias does the interviews in this way because I once read that he was not interested in fame completely but he does very little because he tells him that he only wants to focus on his music. We know how it really looks in photos but if he does not want to be in cameras it is because he is not interested in fame or attention. and I think it's okay because he does not want to be one of those artists who forget how they started the truth, he would have preferred that he never revealed his identity now ghost lost that touch they had before
I know, myself for one, like him staying out of the spotlight. Some ppl want him to take off the mask and all that. I sure don't want that. I love the story and mystique of Ghost. If it wasn't for the damn lawsuit, ppl would still be questioning "who is this man"? At least a lot of ppl still would. U can't wait for a new Papa. How long that may take? Who knows. But I'm fine with that.
Saw these guys less than 2 weeks ago, and noticed this guy showing lots of respect to the bandmates during the show (Had seen videos prior to seeing the show and the show I saw was no different). Ex: during a guitar solo he will go over to the guitarist and clap his hands ( in a way that the crowd clearly understands that it's time to clap for the guitarist who is soloing). Loved their show and agree with your comment about him not wanting to be the centre of attention and likes to implicate the other bandmates as well. Also have to give credit to Ghost for being able to work things out with 8 band members because we all know for a fact that the more people you implicate in something, the harder it is to work things out properly and they manage to do it incredibly well.
So there was a interview where he showed his face with his hair foward, a little stash, shades and a hat on. I believe he was trying to still hide his identity. That outfit still reminds me of Cardinal. I believe his real style is clean shave and hair slicked back.
Correct. Even "unmasked" he still had on a disguise.
I think that was his character as "director" of ghost. Not how he really dresses.
IHEART RADIO NEEDS TO HIRE THIS GUY... FINALLY A FANTASTIC INTERVIEW
The one by HardDrive Radio was good too but the second part hasn't come out yet
Agree
They don't have the money for it. His last album was 3rd best-selling album in the US
Definitely! I like how this guy asks a question and then keeps quiet to let Tobias Forge answers. Good questions, good interview.
There is a one hour long radio interview that was absolutely fantastic. Look for "Tobias Forge 98KUPD". It's on CZcams.
People shit on Graham but this interview was fantastic. WFOF has really formed him into an great interviewer.
Ikr he's really improved
Ghost was amazing last month
Think it’s sad that they took away the secrecies of Ghost. It gave a whole cool vibe but just like Kiss you can’t hide forever. Someone will turn you in for a cash payoff. Cool that he is still trying to keep the mystic of that for the band.🤘🏻✌🏻
The lawsuit ruined it. Greedy cunts tried to benefit off the opportunity TF gave them with his project and at the same time took away a key point from Ghost. I mean when the only person who contributed to the music didn't even sue you know they have done bad.
I salute Tobias for keeping the mystique of Ghost alive. If we all get it, we can all appreciate the adventure.
@@lehtokurppa7824 Exactly. And it's nice to see someone who actually knows what happened. Unlike other ignorant people who can't see that the rest of the band pretty much just showed up to play
Dave Ghrol playing with them is SO COOL!!!
I love Ghost, I still haven't heard a song from him that I didn't enjoy. I can honestly say that I love every single song, his voice is so beautiful and soothing to the ears, heart, and mind. I even love just to hear him talk
I've been going to gigs since the late 1980s. I've seen way over 200 touring bands and I can safely say that Ghost have one of if not the best stage show and tightest musically. Toby is a real one off, the way he graces the stage and has this incredible voice that doesn't come through so well on record but is huge live. The way he cycles onto the stage half way through the set on a little bicycle all in white with the little boater hat, just makes me think of like Noel coward crossed with Alice Cooper or something. Thing is you can see all these influences, but he stirs them all together into something new and vibrant. It's a shame about what happened to the original band. It does sound like they struggled to make ends meet in the early days. Traditionally accessible melodic rock music and theocratic satanism have not been typical bedfellows. If you want to grow the cult into the mainstream there's no point grunting into the microphone and thrashing through down tuned power chords and shredding at 500 miles an hour. They are such and interesting mix of styles like a beautiful and unexpected tasting cocktail that I would glady raise in a glass to Toby for giving us this superb music. You also feel like there is a mystique and you're in a little clique that are into the band, and that's a clever atmosphere to create around a band. People's attitude towards Toby reminds me of the stick that Dave Brock of hawkwind gets. You know; the guys a fucking genius and has mostly picked great musicians to play in the band. They come and go, so much that you don't really know who's going to be playing in the band at any given gig. Could be Arthur Brown, Simon house, Steve Hill age, Tim Blake, but they always are musicians that understand what the band is all about and naturally fit into the Hawkwind family. To keep that idea alive and fresh for 50 years is one hell of an achievement, he never sold out and keep the integrity of the band for all that time. I hope that someone can say the same about Toby in 50 years time, but I'll be dead and gone by then!
I've seen Ghost live 3 times. Fucking incredible.
It's okay that he hides, everyone knows he's sexy af, plus makes the best music ever!
Damn Swedes speaking better English as a second language pretty much throughout the entire country better than 90% of Americans. Cut it out
Natural selection at best :)
America is number 1! Fuck this Swede and Sweden!
@Fuzzy Butkus I was just kidding bud.
i really like the interviewer... no annoying interruptions, calm attitude, likeable voice, it´s a nice change. Y´all know what i mean if i say there are some annoying as fuck people out there doing interviews. this man has found his job.
I think Tobias is an absolute genius. Artist of the year? Hell yes!
Tobi is so eloquent and deliberate but not as guarded. My man crush!
So much better than that “other” interview, you know which one I’m talking about.
chillsdesign absolutely!
not I don't, what interview?
Iheartradio
That interview was soooo bad!
Well it's Gruhamed...and Gruhamed is a boss at interviews
Best interview with Tobias for sure! Loudwire always had great interviews with Ghost but this is totally the best one!
Great interview Graham you just did a great job, first with the questions asked, then letting your guest talk, thank you for that.
Tobias is such a nice human, humble down to earth and such an amazing artist, we love ❤️ the band so much.
I respect his wish to be just a shadow, he mentioned that he does not want to be the focal point. He wants cardinal Copia and the ghouls and the music are.
👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️😍😍 we all love you Tobias and Ghost ❤️❤️
Great interview. I could listen to Tobias talk for hours.
I am from Sweden aswell and I feel like Ghost has really changed the type of swedish rock music, I really like the other swedish bands too (mostly meshuggah) but i think that the music needs this kind of evolvement to hit the major middleclass people.
Yeah. In my opinion they are something all the rock music needed for a long time. They are more show oriented and for the last couple of years I honestly cant remember any new artists who were so much into giving that kind of theatrical show while being accesible to non-metal/non-rock public in terms of sounding. I mean there are kind of young black metal bands and maybe other extreme metal bands which also make impressive shows, but their music doesnt reach out to general public. Ghost on the other hand has this kind of sounding which mostly everyone can be easily introduced to. They are like if Queen/Kiss been mixed with Alice Cooper/King Diamond but without being stuck in XX century. And also they have their own lore. I cant even remember any other band which had their own lore except GWAR. So yeah, Ghost is definetely a breath of fresh air to modern rock and metal music. Maybe even for a whole music industry in general
So proud being from the same city as Forge!
Unintentional ASMR
Good interview! I was at the show in Milwaukee where the fan had passed away. I'm glad he elaborated on that situation. That was such a class act gesture of Tobias and the band to stop the show that night. Much respect for them to come back and finish the show on Halloween this year. It was a special night for all of the fans, one I will never forget. This band has a special connection with their fans that sets them apart from alot of artist these days.Ghost had a great 2018! Can't wait to hear the next album!! Nema!
I love how deep he explains things. Really great interview!
Ghost is an amazing thing all round. An amalganation of many different genres and styles, pretty much done perfectly.
I'm really enjoying the recent interviews with Tobias, it's cool to hear him explain the many different ideas behind the concept.
I love seeing Tobias be himself but I miss Special just a little bit
Still, I'm so happy to see all these interviews come out.
Great interview, thank you! Interesting questions ❤️🇬🇧
Tobias, I might not see it in this poor lighting, but I can hear your chewing gum, young man 😊
I wish I was that gum 😋
Thank you for this interview, Loudwire AND Tobias! It's always great to get more information about one of your favorite Bands. See you in Bochum, Germany in 2 months!!! 🤘🏻🇩🇪
Freu mich schooooon!🙏
@@josie3289 Das wird sooo heftig!!!
This was a good interview with great, thoughtful questions-thank you for this!
Great interview love ya tobias ❤️I was at that Halloween show and it was Amazing Jeffery! Rest in peace 💕
I'm happy I discovered Ghost. He seems like a nice guy. I have learned so much history about religion and different vocabulary.
Since you started this format I knew that an interview with Tobias would look hella cool
hella? Who says that anymore?
@@Danimal77 I do?
Isis Pzl A fellow Californian I see. What part?
@@DeathStarGuitars Oh no, I'm not Californian but I've got friends from there
Isis Pzl Ahh. Nice to see that term is spreading out🤣🤣
I can relate to the end of this interview so much. I am also coming to certain places in my mind and learning how to manage what’s important, 2017 was also the worst year of my life, and 18 was good but this year is going to be better.
I lovvveeee the story telling behind this band!!
I love this man. Absolute genius!
Well. The only thing left for him to maintain the image is to hide his face. He holds on to it and does the right thing.
Great interview Graham !!!! 🙌
Awesome interview 💀
i love the way tobias says loudwire
Me too
I still want the hero, Papa III, the Popestar, to swoop in and save the day.
I just saw Ghost live for the first time and they were amazing.
Blooper reel logic, it’s been a long time coming and it definitely deserves it .
Tobias Forge plays to the beat of his own drum. He does things differently for his own reasons and that makes his music interesting. As far as masks and concealing his identity I believe that he is very humble person and may actually be uncomfortable with the spotlight on him as the focal point as a “Rock Star”. That’s my opinion... I very much enjoyed the concert in Los Angeles and look forward to seeing Ghost again in whatever character Tobias is. Good interview 👍🏼
saw them the beginning of this month, I stepped on his foot, we got there super early because of a loooong ass drive, any ways about a half hour before curtain I was trying to make it through the crowd to grab a bur, a line of people coming in were directly across my path to frosty greatness. there was a gap so i took it, well he did see me and in all actuality stepped under my foot.. Only reason i remembered it from all the other people I had stepped on in this journey to see my good friend the barkeep, He was wearing black and white wing tips, I used to have a pair i identical, So I said sorry buddy didnt mean to almost scuff up your fancy shoes, they look sharp.... he said thanks and i was back on my quest..... well anyways when they came on stage he was wearing the same shoes...........
and half way through the first song he flipped me off..... it was half his fault to, jeez....
That’s awesome you should have just smiled and flipped him off back lol share the love
Rats was fantastic. Video, song, and all. Papas and Cardinal are great fun characters. Squared Hammer was my first song that grew on me over time, then I went looking for more blew me away. Glad I found what was established with these pieces of art in my later moments of life.
This band kicks so much ass. 🤘
Can't wait to see Ghost this saturday in Brooklyn!
Cool! Congrats!
This guy's amazing!
Tobias Forge is my hero and I can't wait for this new album!!
Best part of this video was Gram wearing an ST shirt. \m/
He's so calm in the interviews...
One thing he said reminded me of Witch Image. When he said something along the lines of being close to all these things.
the man, the myth, the legend
Im seeing him tomorrow in Albany, so hyped!!!!!
His voice is 🔥
Dude is brilliant. Best thing for hard rock metal is ages mainstream exposure for that genre is 20 years ago. * nu-metal era and pantera.
Goddamn they gave a satisfying show in Phoenix a couple months ago. Please come back GHOST! 🤘Rock Lives
I dont get the point in hiding his face when everyone already knows what he looks like. 🤔🤔🤔
He probably doesn't want to be recognized from the general public. Only his more "hardcore" fans know his face. A lot of people don't care.
He said even though he knew he could never stay anonymous forever he wants to keep a certain secrecity in it.
Probably because what is important is the theatre, like in Wrestling.
Time will tell. People get older. He won’t look that forever. Keep the mystery alive.
@@thebatman1482 I'm not a "hardcore" fan. They have a couple good songs. I only know his face from seeing it pop up in my recommended videos on here. But I think what he is doing is great.
Wikipedia Fact or Fiction would be nice with him.
Flying V Loudwire did one with him already. He was in the Nameless Ghoul outfit (we call him Special Ghoul) who did that Fact or Fiction. 🖤
Best album so far imo
His voice is so beautiful that it sends me to a happy place. Could listen to it all day!
I know it's easier for a ot of people to pronounce his name the English way, but Jesus it sounds so wierd to me....especially when he says it himself.
The thing I want to happen with Ghost is for Copia to become a full fledged papa, and make an album like Opus Eponymous again.
Great singer- creating a persona lost in today’s music ala Alice Cooper/Kiss & Motley! Keep it coming!
Could you imagine creating something as fun and pop/metal/rock/punk as Ghost and then everyone getting so fucking serious about this shit! LOL!
Hail to Ghost in all light they shall bring upon the Music industry!! 👌🙏
I’m always struck by how eloquent he is in speaking English.
♥🔥👻If you have Ghost, you have everything!👻🔥♥
I have everything, why, coz I have Ghost baby 🔥
One of the best bands rn imo
haha you clearly haven't listened to Gojira, Ice nine kills or Death who are leagues ahead of this gimmick.
@@AX7Raven Everyone has their preferences. I have a friend that's a complete metal head and listens to some pretty heavy stuff. Personally I prefer more melodic bands like Ghost
@@blazeinferno5133 well i don't actually hate ghost i like a few songs off their debut record. what annoys me is that these guys who are essentially a generic pop rock band are getting all this attention cause they wear gimmicky costumes and make simple and accessible music. I hate seeing bands like i mentioned above not getting attention cause bands like this. Listen to Gojira and Ice nine kills when you get a chance, just saying thank me later.
@@AX7Raven I'll make sure to check them out. Spread that awareness my dude
@@blazeinferno5133 just a few songs from each band
Gojira - Global warming born in winter and the art of dying
Ice nine kills - Stabbing in the dark and rocking the boat are amazing
Ghost needs to come to more than just 3 cities in Canada 🙄
Or you could fly to one of those cities from the opposite side of the country like i did on Saturday. It's all about how much you want it.
Yeah like they have to come to Winnipeg!
There's more than 3 cities in Canada?
@@D-Bone-xg8ds ya the people in the 4th city are pissed
Least it goes to Canada my country tends to be a last resort for bands.
Definitely one of us!!!! Halloween, Texas Chainsaw, Rats is obviously influenced by Bruno Mattei's film and Castle of the Undead or something.
Gordon Franklin Terry props to Italian gore. Fulci, argento, bava
This was SOOOOO much better than the iheartradio interview
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘. FUCKIN' love ya Tobias!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘. thank you so much for what you give us through music!!
Tobias is the man & i love Ghost. What a visionary🤘
I love Ghost
Copia is cool but I want to see another Papa please Tobias btw San Jose show was Awesome best live sound ever and I've been to alot of Shows.😎
I knew this was about to happen
I love his voice lol
Ghost is amazing! Whoever says the opposite is wrong. PERIOD.
Lol nobody can wrong if they really just dont like them. It's their opinion
I'm ok with being wrong then ;)
The Dark One Usually losers think the same way. 🙃
Calm down there buddy. I'm a big fan of Ghost but people like you that act like Ghost is top notch and everyone else is shit are what drives newcomers away and makes others that already don't like Ghost to like them even less. Yes I think Ghost is great but I also see why other people don't like them. Ghost just isn't for everyone
Some people are chiding him for his wanting to stay relatively anonymous. I think THERE IS something to the mystique. When you know everything about a musician, down the mundane details like what kind of food preferences he/she has it kind of takes away from it a bit. Maynard Keenan used to be kind of the same way he didn't divulge everything and didn't do interviews as much. And I think it served his career well. There was a kind of element that left you wondering, or wanting more. So I wouldn't knock this guy for wanting to shut you out from a thing or two here....
I love ghost! \M/
I think I get why he is covering his face even though many people know his look, its separates him from his character and if you don't know his face well then you're not trying to look at him as a guy under a mask but looking at his cardinals as there own people with here own back stories and personalities.
Like the less you know Tobias the more you know Ghost.
I'm pretty sure they can revive the Papas if they need them. It wont be lore breaking