Late-2009 Mac Mini Socketed CPU Upgrade
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- In this video, I go over the process of replacing the original BGA Core 2 Duo CPU in a Late-2009 Apple Mac Mini with a CPU socket, and upgrading the machine to a 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo T9900. My only concern when starting this project was that the original CPU heatsink may not fit on properly, but to my surprise, it ended up fitting on just fine without having to modify it at all. With a CPU socket now installed, this machine is now the first fully upgradeable Late-2009 Mac Mini!
This mod and upgrade was done to one of Greg Hrutkay's machines. You can check out his Hrutkay Mods channel here: / hrutkaymods
This is awesome man I can’t wait to play with it and do the videos on it! I already have 8GB of ram waiting for it here 😉 thanks brotha
Louis Rossmann: That's not enough flux!
You need at least one Paul of flux.
At the very least you need a full tube of flux all over the board!
I knew someone was going to mention louis rossman!
i guessi don't give a flux about that
LOOK AT IT. LOOK. LOOK AT THIS THIS IS BULLSHIT.
Socketed CPUs, so awesome. Wish laptops or mini PCs in general still had those. :(
this is insane I did not even know this was possible
These videos are amazing! You make the process look so simple.
board heater sounds like the background noise in dragonball z when they're wasting days of dialog.
That sound chased both of the dogs outside
_Steve Jobs would like to know your location_
Several cancer Docs had speculated that Job's early years of making PC MB's inhaling the many bad vapors is what gave him his pancreatic cancer which is mainly caused by mercury poisoning. Good luck with that.
Actually he'd probably be proud
@@mikebreler9724 Mercury? Solder has lead, no mercury.
@@MelodiesFromTheStars Hell nah, he didn't want people to upgrade their stuff.
@@jm036 Yeah, that diagnosis makes no sense. Even if Jobs made his own PCBs, there was never mercury involved. I could understand heavy metal poisoning, since PCB etchants are super acidic with ions of heavy metals.
you could upgrade the soldered Ram on and old apple tv 1?
Carlos Ivan Zuñiga Torres yes you can just switch the chips up to 256mg per
Coolest yet still most useless Mac Mini!
so you can upgrade from 256mb total ram to 4 x 256mb? That would be 1GB! That is awesome! Do you have the part numbers? So they are the same size, dimension wise, but more mb? Can the same thing be done with the 2 Samsung chips on top? If you have the part numbers for replacing both that would be great! Can anyone make a video about doing so?
@@dustinschings7042 why useless? u can stil use older macs for an tasks my wife even still uses a macbook from 2008 runs perefctly on Mojave Thanks to Dosdude1
I can't believe you aligned that socket by eye and it still worked.
That's one flithy Mac
Edit: That was one filthy Mac
Could throw the plastic case in ultrasonic too, the bottom is as filthy as mobo was
Awesome! How did you know removing the capacitor wouldn't make the thing unbootable? I guess it wasn't a critical component. Did you check the schematic first?
You should replace your fan of your preheater!
I changed mine with a Papst-Fan: no more turbine noises ;)
I'll definitely have to look into that LOL, the fan in this thing is pretty ridiculous.
@@dosdude1 What, you don't want your preheater to take off from the deck of an aircraft carrier?
Nice. Big shame this can't be done to the sandy/ivy bridge models as the BGA and PGA chips have different footprints.
I mentioned this mod on the GFY page a few months ago, glad to see it done!
Will you ever make a tutorial about macOS Catalina on unsupported mac
This might sound dilly, but this video started me thinking about whether a 2018 Mac Mini could be Frankensteined into a lower cost alternative to the new Mac Pro. Socket the processor to allow for a beefier CPU (more cores and/or faster clock speeds), max out the RAM, put it in a larger case to account for better cooling, and could one of the PCIe connections allocated for an SSD be used for an upgraded GPU (which would fit in the larger case)? Thoughts?
Michael Lafond no just no this could never compare to the new Mac Pro
Good in concept but you'll need a better cooling system and power supply, and obviously you can't put 1.5 terabytes of RAM and a 28 core Xeon in it.
Enjoyed pretty much your video. Simple, clear and no background music. I have couple old mac before 2010 due to genius design. I will keep watching updates. Cheers :)
Dont even have this computer or one that needs this sort of upgrade but enjoyed watching this. Awesome video!
you did a really good job on this, Great work!
I adore your work man !
Nice job dude, but some cleaning before the soldering process on the board doesn't hurt!
Amazing work. Thank you for sharing!
What are you using to remove the chip? You said hot air nozzle. just curious on what you are using?
What reballing equipment do you use? Preheater? Hot air station and temp+airflow? Thanks!
Preheater more than likely
@@LOLMAN9538 that was like 4 years ago :) meanwhile i got myself a bga station and swapping apu’s/gpu’s/cpu’s it’s very satisfying (i’m doing it as a hobby)
Yo removing the plastic rubber mounts on the cpu remind me of when i did 360 southbridge reflows
Outstanding work. You got a new subscriber.
I know that you've already said that the Core 2 Quad will kernel panic in a socketed setup like this (due to the core 2 quad not ever being a native cpu used by Apple) but I was wondering whenever you'd do something like this again, if you could show what happens with it and/or try and change some of the efi/SMC settings to make Mac OS think it's a generic Xeon processor or something along those lines(I.E. kind of how Hackintoshes work with desktop Core 2 Quads). I know your thing isn't fully firmware but I've just been curious if you could.
TheOutsider ofParadise like using custom kexts on it
xenon quad is supported.. the xserve uses them
I'm using a q9650 in a hackintosh with nothing done to the kernel. It sees it as a Xeon, so unless the SMC or EFI on a real Mac is set to not function with it, there shouldn't be a problem on the software side.
The hardware side, OTOH, is where you can run into problems. For instance, you can put a 6000 or 9000 sequence Core 2 Quad into a 775-based iMac, but that doesn't mean it'll work because of wattage available. Though a Q9000 with an -S at the end (Q9550S, for instance) might work. For socket P though (which is this upgrade), there are a few quad core options. But they're silly expensive.
@@EweToobUsername I'm sure to get it working it'd either need to be a "binned" chip with a lower TDP but I was just curious. I'm sure that they made some kind of equivalent chip with similar TDP's to that of the mobile Core 2 Duos, but I haven't looked too hard so idk. It probably was though that the power reg. for the chip making his previous attempt kernel panic. Though, just speculation.
The problem lies in chipset and fsb. c2q mobile q9xxx were operating at fsb not possible under apples setup of nvidia chipset with 9400m gpu, and older machines with 965m and 945m intel chipset never had any support for c2q either. If apple used mobile chipsets supporting c2q there would be no problem, the issue is in hardware and thats why we never seen mbp pro with c2q. At the point of quad core relevance apple invested in 1st and 2nd gen core.
wil a intel extreme quad core work ?
Great video dude. Where did you place the Capacitor that was to close to the cpu?
In the bin.
Excellent work. I couldn't even think about doing this.
@dosdude1 how much would you charge for me to send you my 2009 Mac mini to do this upgrade for me I don’t trust myself on doing this I don’t wanna f@&king it up
same deal, are you offeringthis as a service? @dosdude1
Cool mod! What happened to that one capacitor?
It ended up not being necessary, so I left it off.
@@dosdude1 Let me guess - a bypass cap which apple seems to spread plentifully all over their boards :)
Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9300 12M Cache, 2.53 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB might work also.
Mac os works on QX9300 based dell laptops.
Do you know if those Mac Minis are compatible with Core 2 Quads?
People have tried it but no boot. Someone would have to know how to code the bios. Clover might be able to trick the machine into thinking it is a different model.
I would love to do this to my early 2009 Mini. You are a wizard, mate.
Exactly my question also. I have upgraded to catalina per your upgrade download and my early 2009 is overheating. Not sure if the os is too much for the 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or other problem.
That’s amazing! I would love to upgrade my 2012 Mac mini CPU and Graphics card if that’s possible so I can edit in Final Cut Pro better. I’ve already fusion drives my stock HD with an SSD and upgraded the RAM on it but that doesn’t take any soldering skills and I’m terrible at soldering
Awesome video! 🙉
Can you watercool a 2018 Mac Mini? ...or cool it some other way to improve termals?
Should run cooler in Antarctica.
Assuming thermals and power delivery is not a problem, is the only qualifier for this to work is bios compatibility and pin count?
Wouldn't it be possible to carve out a pocket in the socket plastic for the capacitor?
what about quad core cpu?
Didnt that capacitor have a purpose??
i love these little macs
You are a genius!! :D
What hot air rework machine do you use? Great video btw
What equipment are you using? What is the make/model of your board preheater, and hot air workstation?
~Catalina patcher seeing you~
What temperature would generally be used for something like this on the hot air?
Absolutely amazing to watch. I wonder if I'd give it a go if I had the tools. Just for the learning experience. I've experimented w/ custom cut copper sinks & for a Mini & my Mac Pro would like to try a heatpipe to casing utilizing its aluminium body as a giant sink as well.
Next upgrade to an SSD and more ram. Those would speed it up immensely.
I would pay you to do this amazing job!
Yosemite hurts to see!
Your Mojave patcher has a problem with Chrome and Discord with this specific GPU as well as the 320M GT, but your Catalina patcher would be a perfect fit!
Install High Sierra at the very least!
You‘re a genius. I Love your videos ! Greeting from Frankfurt, Germany !
It's possible to upgrade a 2012 macbook pro 13" to an i7-3612QE quad core? Same TDP and FCBGA1023 socket.
if you have enough skills...
Be careful with some of these upgrades. There is no bios as the firmware is builtin and generally not changeable. Some machines WILL NOT work with some CPU's as the firmware never supported it to begin with. Make sure someone else has tried it first or you might find yourself with an extra cpu you can't use. Hope it works for you.
4 years later and dosdude1 achieved to upgrade a MBP 2012 13" to quad core, nice.
Any one can be a tech. Needs balls to be an engineer and modify a system to your own pleasure
"im gonna go ahead and..."
I'm gonna go ahead and go ahead.
Watch me go ahead while I go ahead and go ahead.
LutherGaylord go ahead, I’ll just be here watchin!
Turn on subtitel
4:42 CZcams thinks that is music
He'll be getting a copyright strike soon.
Nice job! How did you get the socket plastics to not melt? And which rework station do you have?
Why not solder some m4 nuts to the back of the mobo screw holes, put the same springs through some m4 bolts? Would make it adjustable, more consistent, and way tougher.
Thank you dosdude1, your work is amazing, any new on when the new OS Catalina will be available in your patch tool? Keep up the great work !!!
I have a max out MacBook Pro 15 inch from 2012. Is it possible to change the cpu and gpu to a MacBook Pro 17 inch?
Hello, is it possible to upgrade patched Mojave 10.14 to current version and what would be the procedure?
I'd be curious to see what it'd do if you used a Q9000/9100. Back then Apple thermals were almost acceptable, I wonder if it could handle an extra 10 watts
I was asking myself the same question.
i had no idea the stuff on the corners were adhesive
if this has dedicated graphics card, you could use a quad core
1:47 that looks like an intel pentium indeed is
Could be possible to upgrade to a core 2 quad on those machines? Maybe even the 2010 core 2 duo ones
I tried this already on my socketed MacBook, and while it would POST and show video, it would not load an OS.
dosdude1 we still should try to get it to work 😜 that’d be awesome
@@dosdude1 if at all, was an alternate OS install/image attempted? a Core2Quad or Core2Extreme would be a hilarious feat for a mac mini of the era. BTW: Thanks for your advice on the 2011 MBP DGPU. I'm that idiot lvtion on the macrumors forums (^:
Yeah, I tried various macOS versions, Windows, and Linux... None would boot with the C2Q.
@@dosdude1 if i gave you some money, what could you do about it?
a true work of art good method
this is so awsome job at all
What about the CAP ?
I just left it off, as it was unnecessary.
Amazing work bro!
Does he still puts backdoors in his apps?
That is so weird! When this video started, my dog ran under the coffee table! Then I noticed your comment. High frequency whine?
I think it’s dope that you was able to do that but you only have 2 GB of DDR3 RAM. If you could upgrade that computer to a 1 TB SSD and 32 gigs of RAM that would be amazing
You are doing GODS work. My real question to you now is...what about GPU chips...any chance to upgrade them? They are the REAL bottleneck on aging machines.
KingCornWallis I’m pretty sure the GPU is integrated into the chipset, I don’t think it’s possible to replace the chipset with a better version, however I couldn’t see why an eGPU wouldn’t be possible if they have the PCIe WiFi card. I’ve owned quite a few 2009-2010 MacBook Pros and MacBooks but they don’t seem to use PCIe for WiFi so no eGPU for those. As for Mac Minis I’m not sure
Graphics chips do not have standard pinouts, they change for every generation (and even chips in the same generation don't necessarily have the same pinout). So it's not possible.
Maybe 9400 to 320m is possible?
Dave Jnathan it’s probably not worth the effort
Corey’s Electronic Repair LOL Do you think the video dosdude1 just did was worth the effort??? NO! The question is if it’s possible and to fully utilize the abandoned hardware!
Hi
Could you help me with information.
i have a mac mini 2007 i want to change the CPU (processor) do you know which one to buy?
This is amazing, I just shattered my CPU die when removing the heat sink to replace the thermal paste 😭
Dosdude you are the best
I had wondered if that was possible, glad to see that someone did it! Which of the T9900 did you use?Core 2 Duo T9900 SLGEE (E0)2 3.07 GHz 6 MiB 1066 MT/s 11.5× 1.050-1.2125 V 35 W Socket P April 2009 AW80576GH0836MG$530 Core 2 Duo T9900 SLGKH (E0)2 3.07 GHz 6 MiB 1066 MT/s 11.5× 1.050-1.2125 V 35 W FCBGA6 April 2009 AV80576GH0836MG$530 Can the same thing be done with the 2010 or 2011 mac mini?
This is really impressive! Why does everything fit together, with the socket installed, without any issues? Not that that's a bad thing, it's just that I would think there'd be clearance issues.
The reason that the heatsink (and for that matter the whole computer) fits together without issues is because the A1176 (the 2006-2007 Mac Mini) and the A1283 (this Mac Mini) use many of the same parts. The 2006-2007 Mac Minis are socketed whereas the Early-Late 2009 Mac Minis are not. The chassis, heatsink and several other components are identical or near-identical.
How much does It cost ti change my MacBook pro late,2009 CPU .with a Better One ? Thxnks
Nice Video! Do you think this will support the C2Q Q9000/Q9100?
A bit late but apparently not. He has said in another video that the machine will post with a core 2 quad, but attempting to load macOS results in a freeze or kernel panic. Although if it's just a macOS issue, other operating systems may work, but I'm not sure
very impressed at your skill
Hello, I have 20-inch, Early 2009 imac Intel Core 2 Duo - Ram 8Gb - NVIDIA 256 MB
Without ssd I can't upgraded to ssd. What's the best MacOS for my iMac?
Thanks.
Man this dude is awesome what a king
couldn't you remove the plastic parts of the socket that hit the MB components? you could keep fixed the cpu with the heatsink...
istn't possible to do the same work for the gpu?
Can you link to where you sourced the socket from, as I could use a few of those
Imagine if you could find a way to soder new Apple chips to older iPhones
That’s really cool. I have that same mac mini
You made me want to upgrade the cpu on my Dell E4200, I finally managed it and I'm running a SP9600 (instead of a SU9600) on it :D
Do you think upgrading a 13" macbook pro 2012/2013 3rd gen dual core cpu to an 3612QE or 3615QE should be possible ? they could be found cheaply on taobao for exemple :)
Any chance of doing this on i3 Model Mac Minis to take them up toan i7?
Great videos - but that fan noise is bonkers? If you can do all this stuff to these computers ;) you can fix that fan noise? ;)
What nvidia chipset model number does the late 2009 mac mini have? and the mid 2010?
Hi! Can you provide us a source for cpu socket 478 because cannot find any in ebay or aliexpress? Only probably in used motherboards. Thank you in advance
Why didn't you clean the entire board?
good job bro
It is possible to upgrade a processor with another generation on MacBook Pro? (Ex 2nd gen with 3rd gen)
6:44 nice Beat
would it have been easier to modify the socket to clear the capacitor rather than relocating it?
no way to fit a qx9300? both are 1066fsb
heck yeah
nice work!@
It's annoying that Apple just won't like you upgrade your processor without going through all this.
It's apple, what do you expect? They don't like people toying on their products lol
@@HobkinBoi It's a conundrum because I like their OS, but I hate their hardware.