@@danielolsen9034 Tesla is still going strong and has produced many more albums than Twisted Sister. TS had like two songs. They really created some crap after Stay Hungry.
Not all glam metal was bad in the 80's you still has some good glam metal bands like WASP (listen to The Headless Children and The Crimson Idol if you think their not metal) Dokken, Motley Crue (the first two albums) and Loudness those bands were among the good glam metal bands who played metal in mostly its original traditional style.
But he is right about one thing, the image became quite a formula after a while (thanks as always to the industry) once that happens the music is overshadowed and the style becomes stale. My advice shut off the tv and plug in the earphones. When it comes to music think for yourself, that is rock and roll.
I'm just glad I'm British. We didn't have time to mourn the music of yesteryear, after grunge receded we all started taking ecstasy and dancing in fields until britpop happened. lol.
@Padarack1: In this clip Dee has no problem with the "W" band names. He never even indicating that they were copying one another. He only used them as examples, of many, "metal" bands that started going... "soft" shall we say. When he said, "The record companies do that all the time. If one is good than 100 is better." He was referring to the music... not the band names and the record companies desire to mass produce the ballads. Good info though.. thanks. :)
Industry that runs a genre till the wheels fall off ..... and on to the next thing . As much as I loved the Hard Rock , 1989 was the saturation point .
Yes...I never saw Tesla as a metal band at all. I've known those guys since the club days at the Oasis. Always called themselves hard rock....the music they grew up with.
@uiruu ... I 1/2 agree with you - Don't matter if it's acoustic guitars, metal with stacks of amps, or keyboard-symphonic rock ... It's either good or it's not good.
I agree. Every music genre/trend eventually dies because the labels all want 20 of the most popular artists. I wish Glam Metal was still popular, but not ruling the world. It would be nice if that was still popular, but if you don't like it, you have other choices of music. Sure, Glam is slowly gaining popularity again, but it will never reach it's original high.
yes, what was GLAM METAL was known today as the First wave of Glam Metal that lasted from 1982 to 86. Those bands had a much more Metal sound to them such as WASP, early Crue, early Ratt, hawk, London...these bands had a more metal sound. Then by 1987 the scene changed and some of those bands went soft as you say or had more of a Hard rock vibe such as Poison or Cinderella, Warrant btw werent glam at all
@Padarack1 I think that is the point I was trying to make. The industry wil ride a popular genre into the ground until the next big thing. The industry can and will drain you till they had enough that's the way they operate. Not sure if at the end of your remark you were calling me dumb, but if so it was not neccessary.
@ENEMENCIO123VISION I think he's talking about the bittersweet 3 chord acoustic ballads that could just have well been written by a pop artist. I don't see a stairway to heaven or Bron Y aur stomp coming from a pop band:p
@PauloSimmonsStanley No, no, I agree. A true musician should play good in whatever style they choose. But. I agree with him when he says that no metal is acoustic. Country, folk, alternative... that stuff is fine, if not better, acoustic. Acoustic metal? Fuck that shit.
Dee is so right. The real metal fans want to hear pure metal songs such as: Be Chrool To Your Scuel and Leader of the Pack. He rips Winger big time in this video. Beau Hill stated that hack Reb Beach played about 90% of the guitar parts on album Love is for Suckers. Why would Dee hire such a boorish guitar player from a hair band?
@nwtampaguy34 The kids who are in 10th and 11th grade NOW ... They are going to be the ones, to bring it back .. And turn the whole thing around again.
@PauloSimmonsStanley That's all good and fine (and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way, I love me some acoustic now and then) but it can't claim to be metal.
@ENEMENCIO123VISION Dee is right though in how he intimates the record label had Whitesnake looking all too pretty .... Their songs were heavy enough, the record company folks didn't need them to put them the 'powder puff boys' route.
And by the way Dee with all due respect acoustic guitars have always been part of the vocabulary of sounds for rock and metal. And in many ways acoustic is much harder to play. The strings on electrics in a lot of metal are like 9's and that's how players can zing around the neck like crazy. Try that on acoustic like Rik Emmet of Triumph can do and many other great guitar players. To me the proof of how great a guitarist is is how he or she does on ACOUSTIC without the wall of amps and pedals to enhance ( and hey I LOVE amps and pedals too- don't get me wrong - just sayin )
This is the textbook lifecycle of all popular entertainment. This was Westerns by the mid 60's. This was disco. Even today, this is Superhero movies. It all gets refined to pablum (mostly because of the bonanza that lets a lot of untalented creatives and suits get involved.) And then they go through their 'deconstruction period' and eventually decay to near obscurity. The only difference now is the exec's and creatives publicly blame the audience for their awful product.
This similar format also has been copied by the film industry media(and mainly with horror/genre media) for the last 20-to-35 years(which has weakened the film industry and its fandom base).
and when grunge served its purposse to destroy metal, not only Glam, they squashed it like a coackroach after two years and the rest of the decade until today you only have one hit wonders leaving us all miserable with the titanic soundtrack, aqua, eurdance, backstreet boys, amy grant, britney spears, rap etc...
Kind of weird when you think of GnR's Patience not ruining theirs. They had already cemented the fact that they didn't care about looking all pretty I guess.
@cappper1 And hey "Is This Love" was never my favorite ballad, but it didn't 'define' the band, Whitesnake ... Ever blast side 1 of the "Slip Of the Tongue" CD, on a good car system? Will knock you on your ass .. In truth Dee's band got too commercialized, and so his career was destined to be short. Though "I Wanna Rock" always remains a kick-ass song. But then "Madalaine", by Winger, just blows it away (song by a dreaded W band)
@Mrschmeltz1 No he's not right, but yes the Come Out and Play album was significantly worse than Whitesnake S/T, Warrant DRFSR, and the first Winger record.
The same with hip hop. Hip hop was a mean of meaningful expression and defined inspirational/personal messages. But now it's all about the beats and shitty lyrics.
Yeah looking at this a 2nd time one thing revealed in some of the clips is they made Coverdale and Whitesnake way too pretty ... and unnecessarily. They would have been successful with that S/T album, anyway; the 'look'-people didn't have to send them the Europe/Joey Tempest route. I always played the tape but could never watch their videos (despite Tawny being in them)
@cappper1 Well you're cutting him too much slack there ... He clearly does have a problem with it, albeit if he's mentioning it's the record companies who started making many bands just like each other (which maybe they did, after the turn of the decade, with the Trixters and Bang Tangos ...), it clearly bothers him; just look at him when he's talking about them! .. And ok he doesn't like ballads, but guess what "The Price" is one of the best Twisted songs, ever to come out of a car tape player
but that was at the tail end ... All four bands he mentions were hugely successful ... Whitesnake and Warrant more successful than his band, TS - who was completely finished, before Warrant's 1st album came out ..... MAYbe, that's why he feels he has to slag all the more commercial metal/hard rock bands
80's hair/glam/pop metal was loud and fun, and you could easily sing along with the lyrics while banging your head to the heavy beat, and that's the best to expect from quality music. I love it! Did when I was a growing teen, and still do now as a man with a little kid of my own. Those that look back at that decade and complain to say that it wasn't "real" metal, are just bitter that it had such an impact during its height. Though, I do agree the acoustic song trend were pushing it lol.
I'm originally from Long Island and loved the good ole days of Twisted Sister and Dee is cool and all but he is 1000 percent wrong about Tesla. 1st of all they have NEVER claimed to be metal. THey are more hard rock like Zeppelin/Rush/Aerosmith and acoustic guitars from the get go ( Modern Day Cowboy-1st big hit ) has been a staple of their sound and style. So doin unplugged was just Tesla being Tesla. That other actual metal bands copied it and THEY fell apart - oh well .. that is more to do with them. Nothing to do with Tesla. It's not their fault. And by the way TESLA never got effected by grundge. I saw them play in 92 and they rocked and continued to rock right up to right now this present day. So I disagree Dee. You got it wrong man with Tesla. Tesla is an amazing band. As a matter of fact they've had more success than Twisted. More albums, hits, tours everything. Tesla is solid!
I like Dee, but the slower, softer songs have always been part of heavy metal and hard rock music. As far back as Black Sabbath, there have been harder songs and softer, slower songs. Twisted Sister themselves came out with power ballads such as 'The Price' The bands he slams wrote great music, as did he. Metal is many things to a variety of people. What's metal to one person is bullshit to the next. It does not have to be angry and aggressive all the time. Metal can and does have other dimensions to it. No man, or band, no matter how cool he is has the power to diminish what another great man or band has done.
Because they did the Christmas album YEARS after the watered down pop metal bands ruined the scene. After all, a man has to eat! Plus, A Twisted Christmas was way harder than anything that White Lion, Tesla, Warrant & the like ever did.
Yes that is true, and when Grunge was finally dead by the mid nineties then they started promoting that crap named Nu Metal which was mainly cheap wigger rap with some electric guitar
No one is saying it is metal. But let's take Chuck Schuldiner when he was alive. He in interveiws said he liked things other then just metal music like JAZZ music does that make him less metal? Ihsahn of Emperor also like things out side of metal music. Does that make him less metal. I hear bullshit crap from Hair metal bands that keyboards are not metal. Yet black metal, death metal, and even doom metal bands have used it. There is also folk metal to. Look up a band like Skyforger.
being promoted, nevertheless the reason was quite simple, mainstream acts like Bruce Springsteen, Rolling Stones, etc were renewing their record contracts and the record company executives saw that Metal acts like Crue and Metallica were going the same way, so they started promoting these mellow rubbish bands like Nelson and Ugly Kid Joe who were mainly pop bands with guitars...anyway then they started promoting Grunge destroying everything else from the 80s not only Glam
Yeah and Twisted Sister played leader of the pack, thats so metal! Right? Im sorry but Dee, you're not the be all end all of metal. You couldn't go acoustic cause you didn't have the talent for it. Many metal songs are written on acoustic guitar. Theres a lot of great bands who use acoustic too.
He's fucking wrong. The industry killed metal. Not the bands. No one forced anyone to listen or watch anything. There was still great bands and great songs at the end of the 80s. There was a fucking variety. When bands like poison came out, the other bands didnt vanish. At the same time Poison came out, you had others too, like Extreme, Skid Row, Firehouse, Warrant and a boatload of others. Then come 90s with Grunge. Lasted 3 years tops. Sales fell like a stone. Industry's failure.
It's stupid he mentions bands that happen to start with W but doesn't mention Trixter, Mr. Big ... Talk about poodles trying to be rock stars. If you people don't hear some bitterness, cuz Twisted Sister's career was LONG gone, by '89 ... I don't know what to tell ya. White Lion + Warrant wrote and recorded their own songs, and both bands were WAY better songwriters than TS .. And so what if Tesla on acoustic wasn't metal? WHO CARES if it's 'metal'? It's either good or it's not good
actually Snider changed his looks with the Love is for suckers album which was no different than the bands he is criticizing, its pathetic and now he ocasionally goes to Europe to do concerts dressed in the old clown gear or coming up with some shitty Broadway album...he has a point that the scene wasnt the same in 1985 than in 1990. however i find laughable that he bashes good bands like Tesla and Whitesnake all to have the wigger nu metal happy
@aerogun18 I would say the joke's on you; Warrant were talented as hell and made some great songs ... WAY better songwriters (Jani Lane was a better songwriter) than the Sisters ever were, sorry. That doesn't mean Dee isn't talented.
Are you serious????? Dee Snider of TWISTED SISTER talking about metal becoming pablum???? WHO MADE THOSE SH*TTY VIDEOS WITH THAN CHEESY ACTOR THAT MTV PLAYED 24/7????? CHRISTMAS ALBUMS????? You wanna tell me Twisted Sister is METAL???? Barely even hard rock. Every song in block chords in E or A minor, no harmonies, ultra compressed/gated drums 4/4 time into infinity. Even live (I was forced to go) it was TAME, CONTROLLED, CONTRIVED (drag queens!) - and he talks about bands selling out??? HACK
Commercial nonsense? What the fuck do you think the whole crappy grunge thing was about in the early to mid 90's? That was just as cliche and pre-packaged as any hair metal band of the 80's.
Dee.... I agree on most of it... but comparing yourself with Whitesnake is like comparing a banged up, rusted, falling apart old muscle car who can only turns gasoline to a cloud of smoke and a bunch of noise to a Ferrari F40...
Dee isn’t trying to bash bands that got bigger than TS he’s being honest about what killed metal in America in the mainstream his band included
Twisted was bigger than extreme and Tesla and white lion, but every other band listed in this short video were bigger
@@danielolsen9034 Tesla is still going strong and has produced many more albums than Twisted Sister. TS had like two songs. They really created some crap after Stay Hungry.
and it's the truth
Plug into 2 Marshall Stacks. AND RIDE THE LIGHTNING,.
Not all glam metal was bad in the 80's you still has some good glam metal bands like WASP (listen to The Headless Children and The Crimson Idol if you think their not metal) Dokken, Motley Crue (the first two albums) and Loudness those bands were among the good glam metal bands who played metal in mostly its original traditional style.
Brilliant. Love how he puts this.
But he is right about one thing, the image became quite a formula after a while (thanks as always to the industry) once that happens the music is overshadowed and the style becomes stale. My advice shut off the tv and plug in the earphones. When it comes to music think for yourself, that is rock and roll.
I'm just glad I'm British. We didn't have time to mourn the music of yesteryear, after grunge receded we all started taking ecstasy and dancing in fields until britpop happened. lol.
@Padarack1: In this clip Dee has no problem with the "W" band names. He never even indicating that they were copying one another. He only used them as examples, of many, "metal" bands that started going... "soft" shall we say. When he said, "The record companies do that all the time. If one is good than 100 is better." He was referring to the music... not the band names and the record companies desire to mass produce the ballads. Good info though.. thanks. :)
Right on, Dee!
Industry that runs a genre till the wheels fall off ..... and on to the next thing .
As much as I loved the Hard Rock , 1989 was the saturation point .
This is so perfect
Having said that I like Dee Snider's voice. Always had a great, metal singing voice ... live too
all the songs and bands he mentioned are great !!!! but I still admire him so much !! I can't stop loving him !!
except for winger and white lion
Yes...I never saw Tesla as a metal band at all. I've known those guys since the club days at the Oasis. Always called themselves hard rock....the music they grew up with.
I for one love Pearl Jam, Sound Garden and Alice in Chains. Those goes were all hard to metal for sure. Still are great.
Dude hell yeah those are good the early grunge days
@uiruu ... I 1/2 agree with you - Don't matter if it's acoustic guitars, metal with stacks of amps, or keyboard-symphonic rock ... It's either good or it's not good.
😂 Dee is always right on point
@Guitarvirtuoso666 Good point, "Stairway" is progressive, in fact.
Metallica and Pantera made some pretty awesome acoustic songs.
I'm not a big twisted sister fan but dee snider is always funny as shit
I agree. Every music genre/trend eventually dies because the labels all want 20 of the most popular artists. I wish Glam Metal was still popular, but not ruling the world. It would be nice if that was still popular, but if you don't like it, you have other choices of music. Sure, Glam is slowly gaining popularity again, but it will never reach it's original high.
@aerogun18 My pleasure.
ride the fucking lightning that is dee.
can any one tell me what the show was that this interview came from? i remember watching it on vh1 as a kid. Thanks in advance.
yes, what was GLAM METAL was known today as the First wave of Glam Metal that lasted from 1982 to 86. Those bands had a much more Metal sound to them such as WASP, early Crue, early Ratt, hawk, London...these bands had a more metal sound. Then by 1987 the scene changed and some of those bands went soft as you say or had more of a Hard rock vibe such as Poison or Cinderella, Warrant btw werent glam at all
@BrianSATX79 Exactly. I personally LIKE hits.
@Padarack1
Lol, Warrant better than Twisted Sister. That joke made my day.
@Padarack1 I think that is the point I was trying to make. The industry wil ride a popular genre into the ground until the next big thing. The industry can and will drain you till they had enough that's the way they operate. Not sure if at the end of your remark you were calling me dumb, but if so it was not neccessary.
Says the ovcalist of Twisted Sister... not that i dont agree with him, he's totally right.
@ENEMENCIO123VISION
I think he's talking about the bittersweet 3 chord acoustic ballads that could just have well been written by a pop artist. I don't see a stairway to heaven or Bron Y aur stomp coming from a pop band:p
@uiruu Yes, they are not metal. But are still great music.
I love Mr. Big's "To be With You", for example.
jajjajjaja este chabon es un capo y un cago de risa
@PauloSimmonsStanley Okay, then we agree.
@uiruu Yes, I know... and I got Dee's point... but a true musician sure can play acoustic.
fuck yeah... immortal corruptor, and fucking bring back the bomb.
@Padarack1 Since I wrote that comment I've kind of changed my mind to more of where you're coming from.
Where’s this interview from
I know this man because of Jak and Daxter
I don't like glam rock but I like Whitesnake. David Coverdale had a great voice.
@PauloSimmonsStanley No, no, I agree. A true musician should play good in whatever style they choose. But. I agree with him when he says that no metal is acoustic. Country, folk, alternative... that stuff is fine, if not better, acoustic. Acoustic metal? Fuck that shit.
@Padarack1 your right sir! mr. big is good though...
Let's unplug! I love Dee! Come see Tracy Chapman or Paul Simon plug into 2 Marshall Stacks and ride the lightning! Greatest quote in metal!
FACT!
anybody know where tis clip is from?
This is fucking hilarious!
Who knows the name of this documentary???????
Dee is so right. The real metal fans want to hear pure metal songs such as: Be Chrool To Your Scuel and Leader of the Pack. He rips Winger big time in this video. Beau Hill stated that hack Reb Beach played about 90% of the guitar parts on album Love is for Suckers. Why would Dee hire such a boorish guitar player from a hair band?
@nwtampaguy34 The kids who are in 10th and 11th grade NOW ... They are going to be the ones, to bring it back .. And turn the whole thing around again.
@PauloSimmonsStanley That's all good and fine (and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way, I love me some acoustic now and then) but it can't claim to be metal.
@Padarack1
I've accidentally discovered that you have been commenting on this video for a year. Wow man, you need to calm down.
@ENEMENCIO123VISION Dee is right though in how he intimates the record label had Whitesnake looking all too pretty .... Their songs were heavy enough, the record company folks didn't need them to put them the 'powder puff boys' route.
And by the way Dee with all due respect acoustic guitars have always been part of the vocabulary of sounds for rock and metal. And in many ways acoustic is much harder to play. The strings on electrics in a lot of metal are like 9's and that's how players can zing around the neck like crazy. Try that on acoustic like Rik Emmet of Triumph can do and many other great guitar players. To me the proof of how great a guitarist is is how he or she does on ACOUSTIC without the wall of amps and pedals to enhance ( and hey I LOVE amps and pedals too- don't get me wrong - just sayin )
extreme only did the one acoustic song tho
This is the textbook lifecycle of all popular entertainment. This was Westerns by the mid 60's. This was disco. Even today, this is Superhero movies. It all gets refined to pablum (mostly because of the bonanza that lets a lot of untalented creatives and suits get involved.) And then they go through their 'deconstruction period' and eventually decay to near obscurity. The only difference now is the exec's and creatives publicly blame the audience for their awful product.
50% of metal is attitude. Dee has it.
This similar format also has been copied by the film industry media(and mainly with horror/genre media) for the last 20-to-35 years(which has weakened the film industry and its fandom base).
and when grunge served its purposse to destroy metal, not only Glam, they squashed it like a coackroach after two years and the rest of the decade until today you only have one hit wonders leaving us all miserable with the titanic soundtrack, aqua, eurdance, backstreet boys, amy grant, britney spears, rap etc...
Kind of weird when you think of GnR's Patience not ruining theirs. They had already cemented the fact that they didn't care about looking all pretty I guess.
@cappper1 And hey "Is This Love" was never my favorite ballad, but it didn't 'define' the band, Whitesnake ... Ever blast side 1 of the "Slip Of the Tongue" CD, on a good car system? Will knock you on your ass .. In truth Dee's band got too commercialized, and so his career was destined to be short. Though "I Wanna Rock" always remains a kick-ass song. But then "Madalaine", by Winger, just blows it away (song by a dreaded W band)
I don't like Twisted sister by any chance but this guy I like
I really have to disagree. I'm huge on metal, I absolutely love it - but I think Extreme did a great job with that song.
@Mrschmeltz1 No he's not right, but yes the Come Out and Play album was significantly worse than Whitesnake S/T, Warrant DRFSR, and the first Winger record.
The same with hip hop. Hip hop was a mean of meaningful expression and defined inspirational/personal messages. But now it's all about the beats and shitty lyrics.
I get it Dee but you are the last one to be talking about ballads since you sang a couple of them yourself
GWAR STILL RULES. AND ALWAYS WILL. GWAR GWAR GWAR GWARRR
What? Lol
Yeah looking at this a 2nd time one thing revealed in some of the clips is they made Coverdale and Whitesnake way too pretty ... and unnecessarily. They would have been successful with that S/T album, anyway; the 'look'-people didn't have to send them the Europe/Joey Tempest route. I always played the tape but could never watch their videos (despite Tawny being in them)
what's wrong with wanting to make money with a hit? who said they were metal anyway?
@cappper1 Well you're cutting him too much slack there ... He clearly does have a problem with it, albeit if he's mentioning it's the record companies who started making many bands just like each other (which maybe they did, after the turn of the decade, with the Trixters and Bang Tangos ...), it clearly bothers him; just look at him when he's talking about them! .. And ok he doesn't like ballads, but guess what "The Price" is one of the best Twisted songs, ever to come out of a car tape player
Twisted Sister was metal?
Obviously
but that was at the tail end ... All four bands he mentions were hugely successful ... Whitesnake and Warrant more successful than his band, TS - who was completely finished, before Warrant's 1st album came out ..... MAYbe, that's why he feels he has to slag all the more commercial metal/hard rock bands
80's hair/glam/pop metal was loud and fun, and you could easily sing along with the lyrics while banging your head to the heavy beat, and that's the best to expect from quality music. I love it! Did when I was a growing teen, and still do now as a man with a little kid of my own. Those that look back at that decade and complain to say that it wasn't "real" metal, are just bitter that it had such an impact during its height. Though, I do agree the acoustic song trend were pushing it lol.
I'm originally from Long Island and loved the good ole days of Twisted Sister and Dee is cool and all but he is 1000 percent wrong about Tesla. 1st of all they have NEVER claimed to be metal. THey are more hard rock like Zeppelin/Rush/Aerosmith and acoustic guitars from the get go ( Modern Day Cowboy-1st big hit ) has been a staple of their sound and style. So doin unplugged was just Tesla being Tesla. That other actual metal bands copied it and THEY fell apart - oh well .. that is more to do with them. Nothing to do with Tesla. It's not their fault. And by the way TESLA never got effected by grundge. I saw them play in 92 and they rocked and continued to rock right up to right now this present day. So I disagree Dee. You got it wrong man with Tesla. Tesla is an amazing band. As a matter of fact they've had more success than Twisted. More albums, hits, tours everything. Tesla is solid!
I like Dee, but the slower, softer songs have always been part of heavy metal and hard rock music. As far back as Black Sabbath, there have been harder songs and softer, slower songs. Twisted Sister themselves came out with power ballads such as 'The Price' The bands he slams wrote great music, as did he. Metal is many things to a variety of people. What's metal to one person is bullshit to the next. It does not have to be angry and aggressive all the time. Metal can and does have other dimensions to it. No man, or band, no matter how cool he is has the power to diminish what another great man or band has done.
How is Dee Snider going to criticize bands for doing ballads when his band literally a Christmas album?
Because they did the Christmas album YEARS after the watered down pop metal bands ruined the scene. After all, a man has to eat! Plus, A Twisted Christmas was way harder than anything that White Lion, Tesla, Warrant & the like ever did.
-tning.
Yes that is true, and when Grunge was finally dead by the mid nineties then they started promoting that crap named Nu Metal which was mainly cheap wigger rap with some electric guitar
As a born and raised western Washingtonian, I apologize for grunge.
@ShayFeral They just changed their chicken nuggets, now .. They're a lot better ... where I live, in central Texas, anyway.
No one is saying it is metal. But let's take Chuck Schuldiner when he was alive. He in interveiws said he liked things other then just metal music like JAZZ music does that make him less metal? Ihsahn of Emperor also like things out side of metal music. Does that make him less metal. I hear bullshit crap from Hair metal bands that keyboards are not metal. Yet black metal, death metal, and even doom metal bands have used it. There is also folk metal to. Look up a band like Skyforger.
being promoted, nevertheless the reason was quite simple, mainstream acts like Bruce Springsteen, Rolling Stones, etc were renewing their record contracts and the record company executives saw that Metal acts like Crue and Metallica were going the same way, so they started promoting these mellow rubbish bands like Nelson and Ugly Kid Joe who were mainly pop bands with guitars...anyway then they started promoting Grunge destroying everything else from the 80s not only Glam
Yeah so that ends my rant on the fall of Glam/Hair metal. They should have spent more time writing music and less time on the drugs and women.
To be fair,Extreme ruined their career forever by releasing that fucking acoustic song
@pheonixdeanml No, no no ... He WAS God. As of about 1986 not anymore.
Yeah and Twisted Sister played leader of the pack, thats so metal! Right? Im sorry but Dee, you're not the be all end all of metal. You couldn't go acoustic cause you didn't have the talent for it. Many metal songs are written on acoustic guitar. Theres a lot of great bands who use acoustic too.
@aerogun18 Wow there's videos I've commented on, 3 years later.
Wow you need to stop trying to tell people what to do on youtube.
He's fucking wrong. The industry killed metal. Not the bands. No one forced anyone to listen or watch anything. There was still great bands and great songs at the end of the 80s. There was a fucking variety. When bands like poison came out, the other bands didnt vanish. At the same time Poison came out, you had others too, like Extreme, Skid Row, Firehouse, Warrant and a boatload of others. Then come 90s with Grunge. Lasted 3 years tops. Sales fell like a stone. Industry's failure.
I think like Paul Stanley: "If a song doesn't sound good in an acoustic version, then it's a shitty song" ^^
@Padarack1
You're weird.
It's stupid he mentions bands that happen to start with W but doesn't mention Trixter, Mr. Big ... Talk about poodles trying to be rock stars. If you people don't hear some bitterness, cuz Twisted Sister's career was LONG gone, by '89 ... I don't know what to tell ya. White Lion + Warrant wrote and recorded their own songs, and both bands were WAY better songwriters than TS .. And so what if Tesla on acoustic wasn't metal? WHO CARES if it's 'metal'? It's either good or it's not good
you dont try and diss dee hes god
actually Snider changed his looks with the Love is for suckers album which was no different than the bands he is criticizing, its pathetic and now he ocasionally goes to Europe to do concerts dressed in the old clown gear or coming up with some shitty Broadway album...he has a point that the scene wasnt the same in 1985 than in 1990. however i find laughable that he bashes good bands like Tesla and Whitesnake all to have the wigger nu metal happy
He never said it.
@aerogun18 I would say the joke's on you; Warrant were talented as hell and made some great songs ... WAY better songwriters (Jani Lane was a better songwriter) than the Sisters ever were, sorry.
That doesn't mean Dee isn't talented.
@Padarack1
But you don't even make any sense.
metal is dead
He's right...music today SUCKS!!!!!!
Fu Dee Twisted Sister does not even compare to Tesla
why would it? most of it was pure garbage, most of the bands had their singles, which were okay, and the rest of the albums were crap.
Twisted Sister sucks.
Are you serious????? Dee Snider of TWISTED SISTER talking about metal becoming pablum???? WHO MADE THOSE SH*TTY VIDEOS WITH THAN CHEESY ACTOR THAT MTV PLAYED 24/7????? CHRISTMAS ALBUMS????? You wanna tell me Twisted Sister is METAL???? Barely even hard rock. Every song in block chords in E or A minor, no harmonies, ultra compressed/gated drums 4/4 time into infinity. Even live (I was forced to go) it was TAME, CONTROLLED, CONTRIVED (drag queens!) - and he talks about bands selling out??? HACK
Commercial nonsense? What the fuck do you think the whole crappy grunge thing was about in the early to mid 90's? That was just as cliche and pre-packaged as any hair metal band of the 80's.
tapiaassasin yep, and what came after that? The disgrace we all know and love as nu metal. Hahahahah
Dee.... I agree on most of it... but comparing yourself with Whitesnake is like comparing a banged up, rusted, falling apart old muscle car who can only turns gasoline to a cloud of smoke and a bunch of noise to a Ferrari F40...