Dispensationalism - the Heresy that Caused the Current Cultural Defeat of the Western Church
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The Heresy that Caused the Current Cultural Defeat of the Western Church.
The last hundred years, says John Alley, have seen the spiritual demise of the nations that constitute the West. These nations were formerly based in Christianity but in more recent times have become culturally polluted and corrupted. The remaining nations of the world, on the other hand, have seen a burgeoning growth of Christianity.
John links the current condition of the West to the rise of the doctrine of dispensationalist. With the growth in popularity of this doctrine a large percentage of Christians changed what they believed and chose instead a very pessimistic view regarding end times and the ultimate outcome for the Church. A a result, says John, the Western Church has become emasculated, materialistic and increasingly self-centred. John goes on to explain the nature of the true Israel, the law and the consequences of wrong beliefs. This message will provoke serious thinking on the part of the listeners as well as hope for the future.
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When I got saved, I read the New Testament, then read the whole Bible all the way through in order.
And what struck me after reading the New Testament a second time was the amount of people who called the Jewish people “God’s chosen people” in Christian Churches, at the pulpit.
This is NOT me hating Jews, it’s what I read in the Bible that we have a New Covenant in Christ Jesus, that many of His own did not receive, and that we must receive to be received.
I don’t know what God will do with national Israel. I am not mad when He saves souls. I pray for it. But right now, there’s less than 2% professing Christ over there.
As Christians, we need to stop calling antichrists “God’s chosen people”. We know that those who deny the Christ are in fact antichrist.
We don’t have to go to the extreme and hate a race of people, but we need to be able to say what the Bible says in regards to those who deny the Christ, whether they be Jew or Gentile. If we keep propagating that they still belong in God’s kingdom, there will be no incentive to evangelize them, and they need Jesus just as much as we do!
Remember the next time someone tells you as a Gentile that you are less than:
There is no respect of persons in Christ Jesus.
Jesus is the truth, the life and the way. No one comes to the Father except through Him.
We must be born again of incorruptible seed to be a child of God.
Jesus is the cornerstone.
Jesus is the seed that blesses all the families of the earth.
No one can come to Christ unless the Father draws them.
If we cast out devils in the name of God then the kingdom of God has come upon us.
WHOSEOVER believes that Jesus is the Son of God will have eternal life.
God so loved the WORLD.
You seem…painfully unaware of current national trends! Usa…..becoming sickest nation on earth…..probably less than 1% of 1%…actually ….PAINFULLY….following Christ
Our president?…senile…our culture….grotesquely perverted….abortion, transgendered, socialist, atheist
Israel??? The Gospel of Christ….is exploding….it is the greatest National trend….improving daily…..surrounded by 2 billion murderous neighbors
Read Gods promiSes to the Patriarchs….to Israel….and then Revelation…and then watch the news…..it’s HAPPENING….RIGHT NOW
You mention Jesus. …..”blesses the world”……now the Bible question….through WHO??? Hint…NOT the usa??? NOT jo or the ho…I hope that helps. If you have trouble answering question let me know…
‘You wrote……”I don’t know what God will do with the Nation of Israel”……Oh my friend….I missed that…EVERYONE…..IN the FAMILY …..ALL the Redeemed……KNOW EXACTLY…..what God will ABSOLUTELY DO……with the PROMISED LAND. so forget everything I’ve written thus far….repent….and RECEIVE….the King of the Jews….there is Salvation in No one else….and you just sadly unknowingly shared…..YOU HAVE NEVER MET HIM. please hear me……Billions of Very Religious folks…..are comfortably HEADED to hell!!!
@@jamesstumpff7774 JESUS IS THE CHOSEN SEED. So deal with that and put away all your iDOLATRY.
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
1 Sam 15:28 And Samuel said unto him, The LORD hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, NEW Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
I didn’t write the Bible, I just believe it. So should you.
JESUS (not atheist unbelieving Christian hating fake Israel) is the king of the kingdom of God. And you nor anyone else will enter that kingdom while rejecting him. There’s no way to the Father except through Him. No back door for unbelieving children of disobedience who refuse to repent and accept Christ. All the families of the world are blessed through Christ, not lying Antichrists.
As far as geography, that’s not my God. One can take every inch of land I own but they cannot remove Christ from the throne of my heart.
I used to believe this when I first became a Christian. But the more I studied church history I realized it was off. It was systematized by one man in the mid 1800s (John Darby) and then spread throughout the evangelical churches by the Scofield study bible. Hard to believe Christian leaders would so readily adopt a brand new theology without first critically examining it and investigating its origins! Just shows how easily swayed we can be by a charismatic leader selling his new doctrine to the naive.
PRE-TRIB TEACHERS ARE THE EVOLUTIONISTS OF THEOLOGY. You will not find them exegeting anything. It was a mere theory that should have been left at that just like Darwinian evolution. If they have to use false stuff to prove their teaching, you already know it is not of God. I was taught it in 1985 in Bible School. Once I compared it to sound doctrine 30 years later, I saw how blasphemous it was, heretical, it has two brides, two gospels, two high priests, and so on. Dr. Thomas Ice right now along with other famous teachers are doing a Westcott and Hort and trying to change what the Greek word apostasia means and say it is a rapture word. This is downright evil. Every single dictionary in the world says it is one leaving their faith. It has nothing to do with leaving the earth. Like I said they dont' exegete anything. They don't know what the word means. God Bless. I am glad to see the Lord opened your eyes. You were teachable and that is why He did that for you.
Very well said, Hector. ✔️
@@pre-tribrapturetrueorfalse4124Absolutely, it’s all wicked heresy.
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 yeah, many are waking up. When one learns the history if honest to themselves leave the evil murderous zionism we were taught. I had to repent of this.
The Catholic Church was the originator of covenant theology, that taught that Christians were the new Jews and the inheritors of the Old Testament promises God made to the Jews.
Dispensation theology said no. Jews are still relevant and God's Old Testament promises still apply to the Jews.
I'm sure the miraculous establishment of Israel in 1948 as a modern Jewish nation, is proof that dispensation theology is correct.
Perhaps when the Jews rebuild the 3rd Temple and reestablish animal sacrifices, perhaps then you will realize that it is the Catholic doctrine of covenant theology that is the heresy.
This is a blessing. I"ve been a Christian just about 40 years. All my pastors have been dispensationalist. When I would pray for my Country, ( America ), I thought, what"s the use, Jesus is coming and we will be raptured and He say"s all these evil things are gonna happen anyway. I was looking forward to getting out of here because things are only gonna get worst. Well, the Lord has been opening my eye"s to all this. I share it with family and Christian friends and they accuse me of being back slidden and preaching false doctrine. The American Church has been heavily indoctrinated , totally brainwashed. Hard to find an Orthodox doctrinal Church in my area.I believe this dispensational doctrine is the fuel for wars around the globe. The blood of innocence are on our hands. I"m trying to learn how to read and interpret scripture the way it"s been taught for 1800 years before Scolfield. It"s not easy.
Join a Seventh Day Adventist Bible Study if not the church. Or youtube "Walter Veith total onslaught". This church IMHO has some really good understanding of the bible.
Paul says in these we will saved from the wrath to come (how will he do this ) . Not recognising dispensation changes leads to signs and wonders cults who make merchandise I of millions of poeple .we are not in the great commission with signs following . This in itself is dispensationaly different . Get your elders to anoint the sick with oil and see if they recover . If they don't you can be rest assured that the Lord is no longer moving in that economy . We are to pray for our governments which I do . Joel's army . Manifest sons of God . Purpose driven church all have its roots in the great commission in Matthew with signs following . The do so because they are expecting something that God isn't doing . They are dispensationaly unsound . Let God be true
Dennis Barry I too am a kjv bible believing Christian. I would strongly suggest you listen to pastor steve anderson in youtube he is really good God bless.
KJV-onlyism is cultic and Anderson is a false teacher.
@yeoberry - Here you are again. Wrong on every issue.
What an excellent presentation on the damaging ramifications of dispensationalism in the last 2 centuries.
I blame the Bible for being so accurate.
Sorry but that is cherry picking. How good was life before Darby? Life was harder and worse and we saw false doctrines in the church, killings of millions of Christians, the church amassing huge amounts of money, the church having a ‘military’ arm, bad hygiene and diseases, etc. was that the result of covenant theology?
Dispensationalism is a complete abomination. Instead of 'a pure and simple devotion to Christ,' we get 'a warlike and obsessive devotion to Israel.'
That’s silly
@@toddstevens9667 There are two kinds of interpretation of prophecy; Israel based and Christ based. Evangelicals believe in Israel based prophecy, where the 24th chapter of Matthew speaks of 2,000 years into the future' the Church period is a 'parenthesis,' words like soon, at hand, and quickly also means 2,000 years, and there is some supposed gap of 2,000 years in Daniel's prophecy.
Dispensationalists IGNORE vast areas of the Bible including the Books of Galatians, Hebrews, Romans, and Revelations. They're all about phony 'gifts of the spirit, supporting Israel, supporting endless wars, and money.
Dispensationalism is a fruitless distraction from devotion to Christ.
@@fromthewrath2come And would you say the same for Covenant Theology? At heart, both Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism are just ways to understand and organize all the information of the Bible into one, coherent meta-narrative. How exactly does understanding the Bible better take away from a pure and simple devotion to Christ? One would think that understanding the overall narrative of the Bible would help one to see better the grace and mercy that comes through Jesus Christ. But maybe that just me …
@@toddstevens9667 Dispensationalism is reflected in the 'Word of Faith' Prosperity Gospel, where they believe God simply 'dispenses' gifts to those who have a strong enough faith. They do not recognize both the spirit and letter of the New Testament. Israel broke their agreement or 'covenant' with God.
"Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant WHICH THEY BROKE, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD." Jeremiah 31:31-32.
Dispensationalists believe that 'what God gives, he never takes away,' hence His dispensations to the Hebrews does NOT matter on their upholding any agreement. They ignore the fact that God wiped out Israel and Jerusalem in 70 A.D. simply because it doesn't fit with their 'what God gives, he doesn't take away.'
"Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is from the Lord, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? Therefore I TELL YOU THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD WILL BE TAKEN WAY FROM YOU and given to a people who will produce its fruit." Matthew 21:42-43.
This is New Testament Christianity, not Israel centered Christian Zionism, where they believe that Jews are inherently closer to God, and thus BETTER than Christians. However, Biblical Jesus Christ based prophecy is quite explicit:
"They will level you to the ground- you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, BECAUSE YOU DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE TIME OF YOUR VISITATION FROM THE LORD.” Luke 19:44.
What a dear brother! I thank God for folks like him! We need more people to come out and speak the truth as such!
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I may not hand out words like heresy, but I do know bitter fruit when I see it. When Israeli rabbis create false time lines to try and "prove" Jesus Christ wasn't the Messiah; it is very bitter indeed. This should make all good Christians pause and reflect upon dispensationalism.
Amen Doreen the only rabbi I need is Jesus
What you're describing is an extreme form of dispensationalism. I know no dispensationalists who believe this way. I certainly don't.
@@laceyheartstring2841 I have a masters in ministry from a dispenSATANal bible college and they do indeed teach this.
Jesus speaking to the Pharisee Jews - Bible book of John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
48 Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
Then answered the Jews
pretty obvious who Jesus called of their father the DEVIL.
Jesus is an antisemite to antichrist zionists dispensatanists
Ask yourself why American teachings are so different from Armenian, Syriac, Egyptian, Jordanian, Ethiopic, Jerusalem, etc. Americanism has perverted the teachings as much as the Catholic Church.
@@laceyheartstring2841YHVH makes Covenant’s
We are in THE NEW COVENANT OF JESUS CHRIST ✝️🩸🕊️
It’s Eternal.
I was "saved" back in 1999 thru "End Times" witnessing - I became enamored w/ it. We were going into the Year 2000 and my whole life I've heard about the "end of the world" so it was intriguing. I learned so much and obtained all this knowledge but as I continued to Read the Bible I would say to myself "that's a reach" or "that has nothing to do w/ nuclear war" etc. Then I became curious about the KINGDOM b/c that's what Jesus preached about....years I spent w/ such a negative view of everything and the world. It crippled me - I feel alive again. The Truth Will Set You Free!
The last year has been setting the scene, countries deceived by WHO/WEF and a coming one world government.
God still used those people. We watch the times, but we don’t have to be fearful, bc He is with us. I was the same way bc I got saved in 2019 right before covid happened and then the wild election in 2020. Everything i was reading, I was putting the situation into the text, and it was scaring me. But God has comforted me through obeying Him. As long as we are obeying God we will be ok. I’m glad we both live with that kind of freedom.
RAPTURE!!!!!!!!!! SOON !!!!!!!!!✝️
@@MerryChristmastoeveryone There’s a book called Dispensationalism Before Darby. May want to face that.
@@KoolCat-vg1rt Please share!!!
For a preacher who "didn't have enough time to preach" his full sermon, you certaintly said a lot.
Love it!!!
This message has proved literally life changing for me since I first heard it back when it was first taught. I pray the mess caused by dispensationalism is cleaned up... "if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand."
It won’t be cleaned up. The people who endorse it will be on their death beds and facing the fact that they wasted their entire lives waiting for a rapture or Armageddon instead of doing something good for themselves or others. I have a family member who’s still extremely fanatical about it and it’s just hard to listen to her speak anymore. The purpose of the doctrine is clear: waste people’s lives and convince them that God is on their side every step.
Frankly, I think that a lot of the antisemitism in the world can be chalked up to people realizing that they were duped into being pro-Israel through a lie being told through their religion. It's hard for good Church going people to suddenly realize that their pastors and favorite Christian TV station has been lying to them.
I'm going to re-post my comment throughout here because it's applicable to a lot of people.
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"I find this funny to read since the early Church Fathers were dispensationalists and Premillennialists.
Understanding the disciple lineage
Apostle John taught Polycarp. Polycarp taught Irenaeus, and it is said that Irenaeus even met John a few times. Irenaeus taught Hippolytus.
Proof of what we call Dispensation in the early Church
Irenaeus (about 180 AD) who wrote his 5 volume works called “Against Heresies” who was a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John. “In 2 Thessalonians, the ‘falling away’ is an apostasy and there will be a literal rebuilt temple. In Matthew, the ‘abomination spoken by Daniel’ is the Antichrist sitting in the temple as if he were Christ. The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months. The little horn is the Antichrist. Against Heresies 5.25
Ephrem 306-373 AD in his writings called "The End Times"
Before the time of abomination (which Irenaeus says is in the middle of the 7 years; after 3 years and 6 months). of his desolation having been made legal, he takes the empire, and, just as it is said in the Psalm: “They have been made for the undertaking for the sons of Lot” Psalm 83:8 The Moabites and the Ammonites shall meet him first as their king. Therefore, when he receives the kingdom, he orders the temple of God to be rebuilt for himself, which is in Jerusalem, who coming into it, he shall sit as God and order that he be adored by all nations, since he is carnal, filthy, and mixed with worthless spirit and flesh…Because the very wicked serpent shall direct every worship to himself. Because he shall put forth an edict so that people may be circumcised according to the rite of the old law. The Jews shall congratulate him, because he gave them again he practice of the first covenant; then all people from everywhere shall flock together to him at the city of Jerusalem and the holy city shall be trampled on by the nations for forty-two months just as the holy apostle says in the Apocalypse, which become three and a half years, 1,260 days.
Hippolytus (170-235 AD) wrote a 67 section/ chapter writing called "The Antichrist - a Treatise on Christ and Antichrist" (around 205 AD)
"Now we must consider the question at hand, letting the previous introduction suffice. We must find out what the Holy Scriptures teach about: the occasion and time of the coming of Antichrist what tribe he comes from what his name is (from the number 666 in Scripture) how he shall work error among the people, gathering them from the ends of the earth his tribulation and persecution against the saints how he glorifies himself as God. What his end shall be the Lord’s sudden appearing revealed from heaven the conflagration of the whole world the glorious and heavenly kingdom of the saints when they reign together with Christ the punishment of the wicked by fire." Section 5-Prophecy introduction.
continued in his writing
"Now Daniel will set forth this subject to us. For he says, “And one week will make a covenant with many, and it shall be that in the midst of the week my sacrifice and oblation shall cease.” Daniel 9:27 By one week, therefore, he meant the last week which is to be at the end of the whole world, of which week the two prophets Enoch and Elias will take up the half. For they will preach 1,260 days clothed in sackcloth, proclaiming repentance to the people and to all the nations." ...For John says, “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.” Revelation 11:3 That is the half of the week that Daniel spoke about. “These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the Lord of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire will proceed out of their mouth, and devour their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy; and have power over waters, to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will.” Revelation 11:4-6 And when they shall have finished their course and their testimony, what does the prophet say? “the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them,” Revelation 11:7 because they will not give glory to Antichrist. For this is meant by the little horn that grows up. He, being now elated in heart, begins to exalt himself, and to glorify himself as God, persecuting the saints and blaspheming Christ, even as Daniel says, “I considered the horns, and, behold, in the horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things; and he opened his mouth to blaspheme God. And that born made war against the saints, and prevailed against them until the beast was slain, and perished, and his body was given to be burned.” Daniel 7:8
Hippolytus lived 170-235 AD He wrote this about 205 AD. Long after 70AD. Long after the Jews were exiled in 135AD. Irenaeus who was a 2nd generation disciple from the Apostle John, taught Hippolytus. Now these all could be wrong but Dispensation Premillennialism is what the early Christian Father believed and taught. Now we have to study it to see if it's true but it is neither new nor unbiblical doctrine.
Proof of Premillennialism
Barnabas, AD First Century
“Therefore, children, in six days, or in six thousand years, all the prophecies will be fulfilled. Then it says, ‘He rested on the seventh day.’ This signifies at the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus, He will destroy the Antichrist, judge the ungodly, and change the sun, moon, and stars. Then He will truly rest during the Millennial reign, which is the seventh day.” Epistle of Barnabas 15:7-9
Commodianus, AD 240
“We will be immortal when the six thousand years are completed.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 35 “Resurrection of the body will be when six thousand years are completed, and after the one thousand years [millennial reign], the world will come to an end.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 80
Victorinus, AD 240
“Satan will be bound until the thousand years are finished; that is, after the sixth day.” Commentary on Revelation 20.1-3
Methodius, AD 290
“In the seventh millennium we will be immortal and truly celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” Ten Virgins 9.1
However, the problem with many Christians is that they forget the laws of entropy. We were perfect in the garden and we are slowly devolving to the point where Jesus says by the time He comes at His 2nd Coming we will have brought ourselves to the brink of self-extinction.
Matthew 24:21-22, 29-30 NLT
21 For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones...29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Notice verse 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive.
how will we bring ourselves to the point of self-extinction? War.
Jesus says the last of the last days will begin with war verses 6-8
6 And you will hear of wars and threats of wars, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must take place, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come.
Revelation 6:8
8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
Rev 9:16 Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. 17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
Rev 19:9 And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
There are so many early church commentaries on this topic that I can never understand why so many Pastors who talk against dispensational premillennialism never seem to acknowledge these documents but continue to say this is a "new" doctrine. This preacher says you can study and not find a trace, well either he's very ignorant or lying because I have books from 1995 on my shelf that showed a number of early church writers believed these things.
I've known this stuff about the early Church for 30+ years. I'm not sure what he's been reading. Hope this helps.
You’re leaving out a very important part. Irenaes knew who the restrainer was. Not one dispensational teacher mentions it, yet they say Irenaes was a futurist. Of course everything was in the future to him for one thing.
Paul warned there were already false teachers in his day.
The RCC highly venerated Irenaes.
Perhaps researching where futurism and preterism came from would shed some light on this. Then go back to chapter 26? I believe of Against Heresies and see who he believed was the restrainer. Then look at what every single reformer believed. 🙏
@@mbfrommb3699 I think you missed the point: did the early Church fathers teach that the Church is second to the physical nation of Israel? Did the fathers teach that tribulation would be so difficult that God would have to rapture the Church out? Did the Church fathers teach that the church would be defeated by darkness or that Israel is the time piece for the end times?
Every church in America needs to hear this sermon and research it. Thank you for this. I thought I was maybe being a bit harsh by calling it a heresy, but apparently, I am not the only one! Thank you, Pastor for being faithful.
Absolutely on point, glad to have found a likeminded believers channel, especially one w/ correct exegetical eschatology & giving mind to historical context. Theology & doctrines matter
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You need to read the bible as it says instead of following what other people say.
John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.
Then came the JEWS round about him, and said unto him,
How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
"But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
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@@BiblicalFlatEarthJoshua the false christ(s) come first and if we are not caught up in the clouds to be with the christ, it is the wrong one and every eye shall see him or wrong one. Blume is a Jewish name....
Paul never called the body of Christ sheep.
@@jimoaks9270 who wrote the book of Romans? Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as SHEEP sheep for the slaughter.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh Howdy, friend or Robert Marino ''cowtipper'',
Where do these people come up with this stuff?
Thanks for that. I was brought up in a brethren family who believe this dispensationalism. There was no good news in it. Everything taught was very negative to my childhood ears. I had a great fear of being left behind, when my parents would be raptured. As a young man I was in deep confusion, and to some extent still am. I have been blessed many times though, with the beautiful presence of the supernatural love emanating from the Father and Son. This is the only peace I’ve experienced. In these moments I never felt the fear of dispensatioalism, in fact these doctrines vanished. For when God is in the house all is well. Thanks
Wonderfully explicit teaching. How necessary and critical, that deceived believers listen to this. God freed me from the RANK HERESY of the dispensationalists. He'll do the same for anyone who asks. This sermon is best listened to on several occasions to let Christ's truth sink in like a reviving medication for damaged spirits worldwide. Pastor John states that being a regular reader of the Bible will help to free us from these lies - this is so true, it certainly started a clean up in me.
If dispensationalism is false then what in the world are you people doing with Ezekiel chapters 36-37 or chapters 38-39, or Ezekiel 40-48, or Zechariah 14, or Jeremiah 30 and countless other entire chapters of prophecy about the nation of Israel in the last days? I have had this discussion with countless numbers of people for many year who reject basic dispensations and they all just ignore huge sections of the Bible because they don't know what to do with it. So they just pretend it does not exist. Both the OT and the NT are very clear that Israel will exist as a nation in the last days, still rejecting Jesus and do not accept Him until late in the great tribulation.
DISPENSATIONALISM IS THE ONLY WAY !!!!!!!! Wake up u boob
@@Orange6921
The last days were the days of the apostles. Not our time and God did not reject the Jews who believed in Christ , they were saved as Paul told that all Israel would be saved.
The "great tribulation" happened in the first century when the Roman armies besieged Jerusalem. The Great Whore of Babylon fell in Revelation 17/18 and was replaced by the New Jerusalem chapter 22.
@@framboise595 Sorry but that is just laughable nonsense. NONE of the church fathers of the 1st, 2nd or 3rd century believed any of that lunacy. They UNIVERSALLY taught these events as being future, not past.
All you are doing is fulfilling Peters words about false doctrines and doctrines of demons being rampant just before the 2nd coming.
Pretersim has to be the dumbest and most easily debunked doctrine of all time. How can anyone be dumb enough to fall for that nonsense?
@@framboise595 I sorry Isabelle but preterism is total nonsense, the early church fathers who actually lived with and were taught by the Apostles UNIVERSALLY taught the tribulation and Revelation were future events, not something that happened in 70 AD.
You need to get away from preterism, of all the end times view that is the most patently false and easily disprove views.
I'm trying to say this as respectful as possible but preterism is quack city. You cannot fit the word of Jesus, the text of Revelation into 70 AD, its totally absurd.
The Bible says that the tribution is a WORLD WIDE event, that Jesus and his followers win at the end, that Israel and the Jews have a mass conversion to Christ, that Jerusalem is saved and peace follows all across the earth as all nations worship Jesus and never go to war against each other again.
In 70 AD there was no WORLD WIDE tribulation, ROME WON, the Jews lost and millions of Christians were murdered for the next 300 years by Rome, there was no mass co version of the Jews, Jerusalem was destroyed and they were scattered across the whole earth and the world got darker and darker and more chaotic as it entered the dark ages.
Preterism is total insanity that contradicts the entire Bible narrative on this.
You need to get away from this nonsense.
I am a dispensationalist but I don't subscribe to some of the descriptions he offers. All I know is that I can prove to you that God is not done with Israel and i don't need scofled bible to do that.
Yeah I'm one myself....
The fact that the the Jews can accept Jesus Christ show yhsg God is not done with Israel ( jews by blood ) , there is not any special treatment for the
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You didn't tell me one thing. I keep listening, and listening to hear about all deceptions of dispensationalism and all you said was I don't have enough time today.
Let me begin by asking a few questions intended to establish your "baseline" for considering dispensational teaching. 1) Is the Bible the very Word of God? 2) Does God change? 3) Are the Scriptures the authority over man?
For myself, the answers are Yes, No, and Yes. With that as the backdrop here are some dispensational views. God changes His plans in reaction to mans actions whereby He designs multiple forms of His salvation dependent upon current circumstances. That offers the conclusion that God changes and is not unmoveable, unchangeable and is not actually in charge. Secondly dispensation teaches that God is a respecter of persons (in particular blood line Jews) and saves them according to their heritage and not by faith. This results in portions of the Scriptures being for the Jews and others for the Church (dispensation teaches "replacement" theology in which, for a time, God replaces Israel with the Church). The resulting segregation of the Bible (which parts apply and which don't) places man as the authority over the Scriptures deciding what applies and what does not.
This is just a launching point and I pray it causes some examination and some confirmation, not just for you but for as many as take time to read this reply.
May God bless you.
@@wesmuntz8797 I believe, Yes, Is the Bible the very Word of God. No, God does not change and Yes the Scriptures the authority over man. While God changes the heavens and the earth, He Himself is not among the things He changes: “You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away, but you are the same” (Ps. 102:26-27). God declares, “I, the LORD, do not change” (Mal. 3:6). He is “the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow” (James 1:17). When God makes a promise, He swears by Himself and so stakes the surety of His word on Himself. It is God’s unchangeableness that guarantees the unchangeableness of His promises and that gives us strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us (Heb. 6:13-18). To whatever extent God could change His mind, our confidence in the unchangeableness of His promises would be destabilized. He declares the end from the beginning and from ancient times things which have not been done. These all unfold in accordance with His purpose and good pleasure (Isa. 46:10). God “works all things according to the counsel of his will,” (Eph. 1:11) and no one frustrates His plans (Job 42:1-2; Prov. 19:21; Isa. 14:26-27; Dan. 4:35). Insomuch as a change of mind ordinarily redirects our actions due to unexpected roadblocks, God’s mind cannot change. All things and circumstances-good and evil-are included in His comprehensive decree for the world and so cannot be the occasion of a change of mind in Him. A change of mind is invariably due to the acquisition of new knowledge or of a new judgment about reality, but God is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16), knowing all things (1 John 3:20). Moreover, His perfect knowledge of the world is not derived from the world. He teaches all humans knowledge (Ps. 94:9-11), but no one teaches or informs God (Isa. 40:12-14). A state of mind is a state of being. Mental states have an ontological status. If God were to enter a new state of mental actuality-which is what happens in every change of mind-we would be compelled to say that He previously lacked some actuality of being, namely, the state of mind into which He entered via a change He underwent. What’s more, God would be ontologically dependent upon whatever agent or event caused His new state of mind. New states of mind are caused states of mental being and actuality. And there simply are no caused states of being or actuality in God. He is the uncaused cause of all else-the One from whom, through whom, and to whom are all creatures (Rom. 11:36). As such, God is the One who is fullness of being itself, giving to all but receiving from none. Perhaps for this reason most of all, classical theists are correct to insist that God does not experience changes of mind. Secondly Salvation was by faith in the Old Testament, says Paul, and the example of Abraham proves it. Abraham did not earn salvation by works but believed God and received salvation by faith (not by a particular blood line or heritage). Even in the Old Testament, says Paul, God promised the day when the Gentiles would be joined with Israel and all nations would become children of Abraham. Was Abraham a unique case? Not at all. "The children of Abraham are those who believe." "Those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham" (Galatians3:7, 9). Abraham's exemplary faith is mentioned in Genesis, Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews. His faith is the pattern for all believers.
@@wesmuntz8797 My answer would be the same, Yes, No and Yes. It is not my dispensational view that God changes. Gods nature never changes. I the Lord change not (Mal 3:6), He is not a man that He should lie or change His mind (1 Sam 15:29, Num 23:19), He swears by Himself and so stakes the surety of His word on Himself (Heb 6:13-18). A change is invariably due to the acquisition of new knowledge or of a new judgment about reality, but God is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16). But he changes the outward dispensations of his providence, or his methods of acting with men . . . and this being similar to what they do when they repent of anything, who alter their course, hence repentance is ascribed to God, though, properly speaking, it does not belong to him. It is God’s unchangeableness that guarantees the unchangeableness of His promises and that gives us strong encouragement to take hold of the hope set before us. It is also not my dispensational view that He is a respecter of persons ( salvation because of Jewish heritage), or that the Church has replaced Israel. Salvation is by faith (Eph 2:8-9). Salvation was by faith in the Old Testament, ( They looked forward to a coming messiah ) says Paul, and the example of Abraham proves it. Abraham did not earn salvation by works but believed God and received salvation by faith. Abraham's exemplary faith is mentioned in Genesis, Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews. His faith is the pattern for all believers.
The gospel by which also ye are saved ... how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
I pray one day I can find a pastor like this. Had to break away from the Pentecostal church because they teach that you will not be saved unless you can speak in tongues making those who believe or those wanting to come to Christ doubt themselves. I ended up leaving and seeking my own path with Jesus and I have been seeing his goodness more then ever. Bless you pastor thank you for teaching the truth.
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Same way. Now I go to a true biblical church. Pray you find the Reformed doctrine
David Brown why would you want to follow after men and not Jesus? You must make up your mind, do you want to be a follower of John Calvin or a follower of Jesus? They are completely different.
Epiousion Apologetics if you are asking that question, you do not fully understand John Calvin, his teachings, and what you are presenting in your either or statement. Reformed doctrine isn’t Calvinism.
David Brown call it what you want, but they typically hold to the 5 points of Calvinism. You can play word games if you want, but those points all came from Calvin. Faith alone came from Martin Luther. So again, are you a follower of John Calvin and Martin Luther, or a follower of Jesus Christ. These are very important questions to ask. Men come along 1500 years after Christ and invent brand new doctrine and you follow these men. Why?
Among those who self-label as evangelical, dispensationalism is not mere a large minority, but an actual majority, at least here in the U.S.
And in S Africa.
2 of the smartest men I know are avid dispensationalists. For the life of me I don't know why. It is absolutely not biblical.
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There more than two,, many more.. most not believing the extreme versions out to 7 . If you understand what happened at Babel and what God said he did,, it becomes easier to understand ,, but not in the extreme.
If dispensationalism is false then what in the world are you people doing with Ezekiel chapters 36-37 or chapters 38-39, or Ezekiel 40-48, or Zechariah 14, or Jeremiah 30 and countless other entire chapters of prophecy about the nation of Israel in the last days? I have had this discussion with countless numbers of people for many year who reject basic dispensations and they all just ignore huge sections of the Bible because they don't know what to do with it. So they just pretend it does not exist. Both the OT and the NT are very clear that Israel will exist as a nation in the last days, still rejecting Jesus and do not accept Him until late in the great tribulation.
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Acts 13:30-33
30 But God raised him from the dead:
31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
The promises to the previous individuals of Israel were fulfilled with the raising of Christ!!
When I became a Christian I was surrounded by dispy teaching. A couple years ago I began learning covenant theology I fully agree that the system of dispensationalism has emasculated the church. That said, its wrong to call it a heresy. They preach the gospel and adhere to orthodoxy. It's also wrong to say that they teach that the church was an after-thought. Other than that, I agree with everything he says.
I think that the people who gave a 'thumbs down' on this video did not watch it, but just read the title.
no. i'll give it a thumbs down, and I tried to listen. but had to stop. check out czcams.com/users/GracepointChurchNewWhiteland and search for the video titled "Doctrine" and listen to that to see if there's stuff you don't agree with.
@@jaymerjaymer Watching it. czcams.com/video/NWeqGfpXC0A/video.html He seems like a good man, and obviously teaches good stuff from the Scripture, but he is listing doctrines of man without backing them up in that sermon. Some of it is very good. However, all those words at the top of his whiteboard (Innocence, Conscience, Government,... etc) are made-up divisions of history that are not taught in the Bible.
@@BibleScribe "but he is listing doctrines of man without backing them up in that sermon". examples please? I've heard lots of his stuff. and the word "Trinity" isn't in the Bible, but we use it as a construct to describe the triune God. So I'm not sure why his headings are an issue?
@@jaymerjaymer "The Dispensation of Innocence", as one of the 7 dispensations, is an artificial construct on the timeframes of history that is not mentioned in the Bible, or hinted at, or evidenced. It is imposed on the text and on our understanding of history by doctrinal teachers - who mostly learned this view in seminary, and I would argue it adds nothing to our understanding of Scripture. In fact, many dispensationalists use it to say that God dealt with people in that time period differently, because they were less intelligent than us (caveman-like) and so God couldn't tell them everything because they wouldn't understand. - This is so wrong on so many levels. I don't want to make this a huge post by spelling out the issues with it... but you must admit that the Dispensational ages are not mentioned as such in the Bible. Right? The Bible makes distinction between ages of history in certain places, but those are not the dispensational ages.
@@BibleScribe "but you must admit that the Dispensational ages are not mentioned as such in the Bible. Right?" ok, but I'm not counting on the Bible to ascribe any "Label" to an age. I believe in "rightly dividing", not a term "Dispensationlism". I'm not labeling myself a Ruckmanite or any such "groupie" of a man (Darby, Scofield, Stam, Feldick, et. al.)... but I do understand Gracepoint/JimDevney's teaching and I think more people need to be turned on to this resource.
I so appreciate this video showing up on my feed today! For as long as I can remember, I remember loving God❣️I did not grow up in a Christian home, but I did grow up in a precious rural, Southern Baptist Church. I wouldn’t take for my spiritual heritage because it gave me a great love for the Word of God. Dispensational teaching is all I’ve ever heard (until recently). But I have NEVER been drawn to “end time teaching”. It has seemed to me to promote a lazy, escapism mentality. I’ve long said I’m a “pan” trib because the only thing I have believed about it so far is that it will all pan out in the end!!! I have tasted and seen the Lord is good, so I’ve never worried about these “alarming” teachings. Nevertheless I am grateful to be now learning otherwise 🙌🏼
Meaty stuff. Thank-you Pastor!
I learned the truth from the Holy Spirit leading me to the truth and I know dispensationalists ideas are wrong im trying to show my brother the truth about Scripture but he acts like im speaking heresy but im praying God shows him the truth please pray with me for him his name is Larry! I thank GOD for pastors like him ! GOD bless you sir ✝️🙏🫶
I find this funny to read since the early Church Fathers were dispensationalists and Premillennialists.
Understanding the disciple lineage
Apostle John taught Polycarp. Polycarp taught Irenaeus, and it is said that Irenaeus even met John a few times. Irenaeus taught Hippolytus.
Proof of what we call Dispensation in the early Church
Irenaeus (about 180 AD) who wrote his 5 volume works called “Against Heresies” who was a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John. “In 2 Thessalonians, the ‘falling away’ is an apostasy and there will be a literal rebuilt temple. In Matthew, the ‘abomination spoken by Daniel’ is the Antichrist sitting in the temple as if he were Christ. The abomination will start in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week and last for a literal three years and six months. The little horn is the Antichrist. Against Heresies 5.25
Ephrem 306-373 AD in his writings called "The End Times"
Before the time of abomination (which Irenaeus says is in the middle of the 7 years; after 3 years and 6 months). of his desolation having been made legal, he takes the empire, and, just as it is said in the Psalm: “They have been made for the undertaking for the sons of Lot” Psalm 83:8 The Moabites and the Ammonites shall meet him first as their king. Therefore, when he receives the kingdom, he orders the temple of God to be rebuilt for himself, which is in Jerusalem, who coming into it, he shall sit as God and order that he be adored by all nations, since he is carnal, filthy, and mixed with worthless spirit and flesh…Because the very wicked serpent shall direct every worship to himself. Because he shall put forth an edict so that people may be circumcised according to the rite of the old law. The Jews shall congratulate him, because he gave them again he practice of the first covenant; then all people from everywhere shall flock together to him at the city of Jerusalem and the holy city shall be trampled on by the nations for forty-two months just as the holy apostle says in the Apocalypse, which become three and a half years, 1,260 days.
Hippolytus (170-235 AD) wrote a 67 section/ chapter writing called "The Antichrist - a Treatise on Christ and Antichrist" (around 205 AD)
"Now we must consider the question at hand, letting the previous introduction suffice. We must find out what the Holy Scriptures teach about: the occasion and time of the coming of Antichrist what tribe he comes from what his name is (from the number 666 in Scripture) how he shall work error among the people, gathering them from the ends of the earth his tribulation and persecution against the saints how he glorifies himself as God. What his end shall be the Lord’s sudden appearing revealed from heaven the conflagration of the whole world the glorious and heavenly kingdom of the saints when they reign together with Christ the punishment of the wicked by fire." Section 5-Prophecy introduction.
continued in his writing
"Now Daniel will set forth this subject to us. For he says, “And one week will make a covenant with many, and it shall be that in the midst of the week my sacrifice and oblation shall cease.” Daniel 9:27 By one week, therefore, he meant the last week which is to be at the end of the whole world, of which week the two prophets Enoch and Elias will take up the half. For they will preach 1,260 days clothed in sackcloth, proclaiming repentance to the people and to all the nations." ...For John says, “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.” Revelation 11:3 That is the half of the week that Daniel spoke about. “These are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the Lord of the earth. And if any man will hurt them, fire will proceed out of their mouth, and devour their enemies; and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy; and have power over waters, to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will.” Revelation 11:4-6 And when they shall have finished their course and their testimony, what does the prophet say? “the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them,” Revelation 11:7 because they will not give glory to Antichrist. For this is meant by the little horn that grows up. He, being now elated in heart, begins to exalt himself, and to glorify himself as God, persecuting the saints and blaspheming Christ, even as Daniel says, “I considered the horns, and, behold, in the horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things; and he opened his mouth to blaspheme God. And that born made war against the saints, and prevailed against them until the beast was slain, and perished, and his body was given to be burned.” Daniel 7:8
Hippolytus lived 170-235 AD He wrote this about 205 AD. Long after 70AD. Long after the Jews were exiled in 135AD. Irenaeus who was a 2nd generation disciple from the Apostle John, taught Hippolytus. Now these all could be wrong but Dispensation Premillennialism is what the early Christian Father believed and taught. Now we have to study it to see if it's true but it is neither new nor unbiblical doctrine.
Proof of Premillennialism
Barnabas, AD First Century
“Therefore, children, in six days, or in six thousand years, all the prophecies will be fulfilled. Then it says, ‘He rested on the seventh day.’ This signifies at the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus, He will destroy the Antichrist, judge the ungodly, and change the sun, moon, and stars. Then He will truly rest during the Millennial reign, which is the seventh day.” Epistle of Barnabas 15:7-9
Commodianus, AD 240
“We will be immortal when the six thousand years are completed.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 35 “Resurrection of the body will be when six thousand years are completed, and after the one thousand years [millennial reign], the world will come to an end.” Against the Gods of the Heathens 80
Victorinus, AD 240
“Satan will be bound until the thousand years are finished; that is, after the sixth day.” Commentary on Revelation 20.1-3
Methodius, AD 290
“In the seventh millennium we will be immortal and truly celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.” Ten Virgins 9.1
However, the problem with many Christians is that they forget the laws of entropy. We were perfect in the garden and we are slowly devolving to the point where Jesus says by the time He comes at His 2nd Coming we will have brought ourselves to the brink of self-extinction.
Matthew 24:21-22, 29-30 NLT
21 For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones...29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days, the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Notice verse 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive.
how will we bring ourselves to the point of self-extinction? War.
Jesus says the last of the last days will begin with war verses 6-8
6 And you will hear of wars and threats of wars, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must take place, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come.
Revelation 6:8
8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.
Rev 9:16 Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. 17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
Rev 19:9 And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
There are so many early church commentaries on this topic that I can never understand why so many Pastors who talk against dispensational premillennialism never seem to acknowledge these documents but continue to say this is a "new" doctrine. This preacher says you can study and not find a trace, well either he's very ignorant or lying because I have books from 1995 on my shelf that showed a number of early church writers believed these things. Sure maybe some have communicated it in a dire way but the world was always on a path to war. There were discussions made 50 years ago that would lead to another world war. Should we panic, or fear? No. But we need to be aware so we know what the LORD is doing.
Hope this helps.
The Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write in chapter 3 in the letter to the Ephesians " For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to youward:
The Holy Spirit inspired Paul to write in chapter 1 in the letter to the Colossians " Whereof I am made a minister, according to dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God.
This means that what was revealed to Paul was never before revealed to ANYONE else.
I can read plain English and I understand what the Holy Spirit is conveying through Paul. I will not let man's commentary tell me what the word of God says.
+aquaviva923 Galatians 3:29 - “And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.” Those in Christ ARE (not become) the seed of Abraham = Israel.Not those antichrists that claim to be 'jews"Revelation 2: 9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Yes. with all my heart, soul and spirit! It has opened up the word of God and has changed my life.
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I totally agree it is exciting to share truths with other like minded believers. I noticed on your you tube playlists that there were some videos on electricity. I found that interesting. I have been an electrician for 30 years now.
That's great mythology but not Bible. Look and see WHO Paul calls Israel, etc.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2 Peter 1:20
Which is what occurs when newspaper headlines are used to interpret scripture.
Truth. 🙏 Thank you and God bless!
I'm 15 minutes into this and have yet to hear any scripture.
I'm 15 minutes into this and still no thesis, or opinion of facts.
Blah blah blah.
He hit the main spots well that Dispensationalists really mess up, namely, The church and Israel, The Law, the Kingdom of God, and how they separate teachings that are not to be separated. I was a dispensationalist for many years before I totally abandoned it through studying the Bible and the church fathers. I truly believe that nobody would ever come up with dispensational teachings by studying historic church teachings or by studying the Bible itself. I would like to add that most people that hold dispensational teachings never studied the Bible for themselves; but, they studied under a specific school of thought.
I have personally experienced that, Christians raised in dispensational churches are afraid of believing something different from their church because most dispensationalist churches consider you a lesser christian or not a christian at all if you disagree with their dispensational theology. The behavior is very similar to NonChristian cult behavior like Jehovah witness and Mormon "shunning." Ironically, dispensationalism came from the same era of Mormonism and Jehovah Witness.' I find it very uncanny the similarity of Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah Witness founder) and Clarence Larkin (major Dispensationalist proponent) teachings on the "Great Pyramid." Both these people are major factors in the destruction Christianity as we know it today.
I even have seen people try to convert people to Christianity by having them watch the "Left Behind" movies. Many people in Christianity today have exchanged the true gospel for dispensationalist "Rapture" and "PreMillenial" theology. It's very sad to watch. If a dispensationalist is reading this and wants to know the gospel please read this link.
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+James Richardson
You had me up until "PreMillennial". I'm very anti-Dispensationalism. You'd like my channel and my videos regarding the subject. But why are you lumping in "PreMillennial" with Dispensationalism?
+Jason “Let My People Know” Kelty Dispensationalism is a form of premillennialism. It is not the same as historic premillennialism as to some of the timeline (dispensationalists add a lot of stuff to the timeline historic premillennialists don't largely insofar as the nation of Israel and Jews) however they are in the same category as premillennialists. As to the millennial timelines there are 4 schools in Christianity now historical/pre-, post-, a- and dispensational/pre. Obviously the dispensational/pre theology is very recent in church history but it was an offshoot of a minority view of premillennialism at the time. Technically dispensationalists are premillennialists, though since there were new elements added to the historical premillennial view it is technically it's own theory all by itself now. Though dispensationalists are not in total alignment in their views with historic premillennialists they share the "pre" ideas of the millennial kingdom timeline. Since nowadays historic premillennialism is pretty rare and dispensationalism has kind of taken over well it is common to not distinguish between the two since the dispensationalism is the mainstream premillennial view. In truth most Christians are not even aware that there are two premillennial views and think dispensationalism is THE premillennial view, and since there are so few historic proponents nowadays the arguments are pretty much between the a-, post and dispensational millennialists with dispensationalist theology coopting the platform of the pre- camp.
B Boed
I already knew all this, brother. I was asking the original poster so as to point out the false assumption.
I am Premillennial. I am NOT Dispensational AT ALL. My channel is VERY anti-Dispensationalism. Come check it out.
Jason Kelty You make a great point. There are many sound Premillenialists out there.
I don't like the word "Heresy" as it's used in the title. It is only heresy if they intentionally are causing a split in the church over it. Not all dispensationalists are bad.
I love John MacArthur Jr. I get exasperated at his eschatology I admit but his ministry and preaching is very Biblical.
James Richardson
Thank you, brother. Premillennial, Posttribulational Covenant Theology is the Truth. Come check out my channel. I think you'll like it.
In God's wonderful absolute sovereignty l know l can trust HIM.
He has his plans and HIS counsels WlLL stand
This is a good message but may be a leap for some people in conceptual terms. This particular concept jump has taken me many years as God graciously showed little things at a time. Essentially many western Christians today believe that the world is going to get worse and worse until the end. Because of this they have little faith when they pray because they don't expect God will answer their prayers - they think God's plan is for things to get worse not better. So in fact many western Christians don't act, don't pray, and don't believe for better things.
A proper examination of Scripture shows us a victorious Saviour - one who planned for good. God has given us many promises and the harmony of the Bible shows a good God, a good kingdom... and the gospel, which is "good news."
This message is worth watching - please do.
David Alley Good points. That pessimism does loom over ones head like a cloud
I know this is old post... But if God wanted to, he could me much clearer about everything. This means either evil forces hide something or God does not care to be clear or both. Third possibility: it is going to get worse, here on Earth.
Dispensationalists think the world will end just because us white people are losing our faith, yet in the east Christianity is rising in huge numbers.
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I do believe the world is going to get worse before it gets better. However, counting myself and other close believers in dispensationalism, I can't think of any time it caused me to have little faith or caused a friend to have little faith. If anything, we work and pray harder for the advance of the kingdom.
Gospel of the Kingdom, Salvation.
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Odd. I lost sound when the dispensationalism was spoken. Any ideas why? Is it my internet?
”But in vain they do worship me, Teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.“
Matthew 15:9 KJV
I don't recall dispensationalists teaching that you should sin and not obey God. Certainly there are blessings for righteousness! They are simply saying it's not what gets people in the church age saved from hell. - believing in the blood Jesus Christ shed for our sins is what saves. How does the pastor explain the books and passages addressed to the 12 tribes of Israel and to the Hebrews? If all are spiritual Israel, then why the details of the 12 tribes and so forth?
Also why use the NIV which is full of heresies?
I had a conversation with one who told me a man could repeatedly beat his son after believing in Jesus Christ until he killed him And never repent for that sin and still go to heaven.
This is a solid, biblical perspective on a very important, key point: for 1,850 years of church history, the basic tenants of dispensationalism were not found in the church, the early church fathers, and in the writings and traditions of the Reformation. Thank you for this sermon and teaching.
Really? Never studied history have you? The catholic church has destroyed many including the Paulicians. Destroyed their liturgy killed them and called them heretics. Even reformed study books follow those lies of the RC. Do your homework better
Get the book "The Rapture: The Pretribulational Rapture Viewed From the Bible and the Ancient Church," by Ken Johnson. He shows that tenets of Dispensationalism were believed by early Church Fathers.
@@affirmative3542 Dr. Ken Johnson is excellent!
Exactly!
@@affirmative3542 but they werent
Thank you for this wonderful teaching, John. How sad that so much of the contemporary American church is inundated with dispensational/futurist teaching.
At least take some comfort in the fact that YOU are one of the elect. It's not through anything either one of us has done, we simply realize the truth who we are. By Him, through Him, for Him.
Steve Gregg also does a very thorough job analyzing the history, doctrine, and teachings of dispensationalism and how it stacks up with Scripture.
I had to listen for a while. As a serious student of Classical Dispensational Premillennialism, I am aware of the points of contention and the arguments for and against. I had hoped to hear well presented points to challenge my thoughts, instead I only heard accusation. I believe you made a mistake in going down this road so emotionally charged especially with time restraints, but you also failed by assigning such biased wording in your accusations against Dispensational beliefs. If you feel you can present better scriptural evidence and make a better arrangement for Covenant Theology than challenge the most competent Dispensationalist you can find to a structured debate, where thoughts can be presented, judged, and challenged. This was once and could be again, a great tool of learning.
Charles, I'm answering on behalf of John who hasn't seen this comment. I think the intent of the message was to highlight the unintentional consequences of this doctrine on the prayer life of a christian who believes it. Your points are reasonable, and the type of consideration you mention is something John has done elsewhere, but not online. In that case it seems to me to be really a battle for why a certain hermeneutic is correct for the literature, and John has several times talked about the use of metaphor and figurative language in scripture elsewhere on youtube.
Its great to have someone like yourself who looks to challenge their beliefs and makes genuine constructive and non judgemental comments as you seem to have done here.
I think the main point that ought to be taken from this video is that faith is a non tangible thing, and prayer can look the same externally either with or without it. But when the underlying conviction of a believer is that the world is going to get worse because Jesus is coming soon, its very hard to have the type of faith that really changes a situation.
This message is really a message about prayer and faith in an eschatalogical disguise.
The faith of many will be destroyed when future events do not unfold as interpreted by the dispensationalists. ✔️
I highly recommend you read the books by Philip Mauro, who covers the deceit of Dispensationalism very well.
This is not for debate. The Bible is based on the covenants of Yahua and not dispensations. That is all interpretive gloss. That is just the way it is. The way the old and new testaments are written and were passed orally.
It is now eight years later and it looks like Israel will rise to the head of the nations someday and it also looks
like we are marching toward the Tribulation period. I don`t see anything wrong with working and looking up....
Thank you for this message.
I listened to this message a few years ago and came across it again. It needs to be heard again and again, just as Paul the Apostle said he needed to repeat what he had already taught.
It's fascinating to read through scripture upon discovering the ad hoc nature of both dispensationalism and covenantal theology. Recognizing the thoroughly Jewish theology and character of the Bible and putting it back in its historic context - 1st century, 2nd temple Judaism - resolves so much of historical theological debates founded on supercessionist presuppositions.
+Daniel Wesley So says a closet Hebrew Roots cult member.
+flutefun999 This comment feels rather personal... do I know you?
No, just calling you out. You couch your terms in neutral language but I recognize the tone. The whole "go back to the Jewish Roots" of the bible is a huge fallacy and is deceiving many.
+flutefun999 Be careful to not presume too much.
But you do not deny it.
I agree that dispensationalism is very damaging to the Truth. SOOO many errors, and it has opened the door to many other doctrines of errors.
But the swing I see lately is for many disgruntled (but sincere) Christians who are swinging wide the other way by diving back into OT practices. I have seen true, born again converted friends of mine get sucked into this and it is frustrating. I almost did myself at one time.
BOTH of these extremes (HR and Dispensationalism) deny/take away the glorious finished work of Christ on the Cross. I take huge offense to anything that takes away from His Glory.
He is correct on one thing. The body of christ was not prophesied. I could add that salvation now comes directly to the gentiles and paul claiming we Do live in a dispensation!
Love this Pastor, John Alley! Speaks truth in such eloquence and wisdom. May all awaken to God's Holy Truth! Amen!
Truth - Hi! No, I found it on Google :))
ByHisGrace - Where in the good book does it say that Abraham was saved by believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ? It doesn't. He was saved by obeying the command of God the Father to Kill his son Issac. The point of that question is God "DISPENSES" grace in different ways at different times in history.
Galatians 3:8. The Gospel was preached "beforehand to Abraham".
That you believe Abraham was saved by works and directly contradict the Word of God, shows that you're an ignorant dispensationalist. You need to stop posting and learn what the Bible teaches about the Gospel.
Abraham was justified in Genesis 15 when he believed God. This is well before he was willing to sacrifice Isaac. See Genesis 15:6 and Romans 4:3.
All of Romans 4 teaches against your legalistic, dispensational doctrine.
Besides, there is only one way to be saved, through Jesus. Since Abraham was saved, he was saved by Jesus.
@yeoberry - So tell me where in the good book it says that Abraham was saved through faith in Jesus Christ, dummy. Grace did not come to him by believing upon the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ because it had not happened yet stupid. Hence, a different dispensation. You need to wake up hand.
First, I just told you where: Galatians 3:8. The Gospel was preached "beforehand to Abraham". That you call me "dummy" but apparently don't understand that I answered your question is ironic. Galatians 3 and Romans 4 both say that Abraham was made right with God by believing in the "gospel in advance." You are totally wrong.
Second, you've spewed two hateful insults, violating the Lord Jesus' command of Matthew 5:22. According to Jesus, you are now liable to the hell of fire.
Third, you are teaching false doctrine, directly contradicting the Word of God and claiming that some people were saved by works. You are a heretic.
You should stop posting and examine yourself as to whether you are really "in the faith" (2 Cor. 13:5). Real Christians understand the gospel and don't slander and spew insults like you do.
When I was kid they said that they would start up the levitical priesthood up again and offer sacrifices for atonement of sins.
Some of the Jew though are coming to Christ. They claimed the false Messiah will rule the temple.
They didn't know that the temple was destroyed destoryed in ad 70.
Some of them thought they needed to keep the Sabbath day. One thought you still had to keep the dietary laws.
One guy we were friends with wouldn't drink cokes or Dr. Pepper.
They called it strong drink.
It was like they were trying do the Nazarite law.
It became obsolete with old covenant.
Read romans 7 the last lines.
@@johnp3081 This guy would get up and brag about his good works. He was very unlearned in the bible. He was saved back in the 40's and he thought most everything was sin. He is past now a few years back , he was around 90 years old.
He wouldn't drink Coke or Dr. Pepper? He sounds like a nutcase.
This is great teachings brother, keep it up and march on forward with the Bible truth instead of men views and opinions. Shalom.
"Lies Exposed & Truth Revealed" is a must read for all Christians along with your Bibles
It's dangerous to teach that countries are economically blessed based on their reception of the gospel. This world is not the Christian's home.
Really. The earth He has created for the Sons of man.
@Blob Monster
GOD is.. If you say that Satan is , I will reply that Satan is the strong man but Christ is the STRONGER man.
The whole earth belongs to the Lord .
Problem wirh your assumption is that there are literal examples in scripture that indicate the opposite
I believe you are teaching the truth.
Truth!
What is the Kingdom of God? “Righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit”. ✝️🙏🏼😇
I own a 1599 Geneva bible, it's footnoted from cover to cover.
Footnotes. Ok. Are those commentaries or references to other parts of the text?
Paul mentioned dispensation. To Apostle Paul an apostle to Gentiles to whom Jesus Christ revealed a mystery never revealed before but keep by God, but now revealed to us through our Apostle Paul.
Check the Greek
@@dlbard1 Tell all people to read Greeks manuscript...Does your church use Greek to read the scriptures..
Wow!!! Great message
Israel is in darkness NOW but thank God HE will keep HIS promises and everlasting covenant with his chosen remnant of Israel
2 Timothy 4:3-4,8
[3]For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
[4]And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
[8]Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
So refreshing to hear truth preached! thank you!
Good teaching- thanks
The debate isn't whether dispensations exist, they do and as clearly stated in the Bible and in this video. hence, the catch is how to properly interpret them and apply them.
Jeremiah 31:35-36
35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Psalm 105:8-11
8 He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.
9 Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
10 And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
11 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance:
I am not a dispensationist but I think you are mixed up when you say that "this teaching"( dispensationis) teaches of an apostasy happening. That's becuase Paul taught that there would be.
The gospel will certainly be preached in all the world before the end comes, but that doesn't mean everyone will be saved. To believe everyone will be saved in universalism. In fact the more I listern I believe you have a dominionist/ kingdom now mentality. Neither jesus nor the apostles appealed to governments to changed their countries into Christian nations. Paul could have done that when he was arrested but his hope was that King Agrippa would believe the gospel Acts 26:24-32.
Very interesting .
I was brought up in Pentecostal circles pre trib rapture and the importance of Israel. I never questioned it but I noonger hold to the pre trib view although I still think God hasn't cometely finished with Israel. Too much has happened there in the past 74 years however I don't think we should major on on that.
Thank you that was a very refreshing message
The fact that Israel has held out so long does make me think that God is trying to bring them back into the fold, but it could just be a matter of patience. He wants Jews to completely accept Jesus instead of them continuing to turn their backs on him. It could be he gave them a chance again for a while, but if they still reject them he'll allow them to be dispersed again and then he'll try again in the future. (Obviously God knows what will happen, but I don't believe in the idea that everything is predetermined like Calvanists believe.)
My biggest issue is I have with this video is that I havs never heard about the idea of Gentiles being "God's Plan B". Or that God promised the Jews "the entire world". It was always the idea that Israel was chosen as the figurehead to bless the entire world. This is the first time I have ever heard anyone discussing dispensialism ever bring that idea up.
Even when I did believe pretrib Rapture and we're in the end times, the idea was always that Israel would still be apostate until they came to Christ. The end times teachings just suggested that the prophecies being future means there must be a future temple. It wouldn't be a real temple of God, but it would exist.
@@jrconway3his sermon says a lot of things that about dispensational theology that are patently false. You’d be hard pressed even find a decent church that teaches dispensational theology these days. The idea that dispensational theology is responsible for the downfall of society and the church is absurd. I would be quick to blame the plethora of corrupt Bibles, Hollywood and mass media.
People are the temple of God
Amen. Let God be true.
This, a concern of mine lately as I look back over time how I was deceived by this false doctrine, is the most important issue facing the American Bible believing Church today. I recall once sitting in church during the mid 80‘s the pastor saying “when God chose the Church he picked the bottom of the barrel “.
Amen! "bottom of the barrel" = SINNERS, who "humbly" repent/believe And *RECEIVE*
*God's ETERNAL Salvation!!* Amen?
If dispensationalism is false then what in the world are you people doing with Ezekiel chapters 36-37 or chapters 38-39, or Ezekiel 40-48, or Zechariah 14, or Jeremiah 30 and countless other entire chapters of prophecy about the nation of Israel in the last days? I have had this discussion with countless numbers of people for many year who reject basic dispensations and they all just ignore huge sections of the Bible because they don't know what to do with it. So they just pretend it does not exist. Both the OT and the NT are very clear that Israel will exist as a nation in the last days, still rejecting Jesus and do not accept Him until late in the great tribulation.
Great video, thank you
Hi Pastor John, The more I listen to your sermons on Dispensationalism, the better I understand the issues. Thank you for your strong teaching by God's Holy Spirit.
Everything in the new testament applies to you?
Galatians 1:8
Revelation 14:6
Please apply both of them to yourself today and let me know how it works out thank you.
@@alexanderbrown2717 And your point is.....?
This isn't what Dispensationalism teaches. It's a literal, historical, sociological reading of the Bible
Dispensationalism, I believe is to rightly divide the word of truth. A lot of people despise the term Rapture but it is the First Resurrection.
Amen and amen!
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Your videos are very instructive. I have been to Australia twice and every state and territory except The Northern Territory and Queensland and I hope to come to Australia again and get to NT and Qld and also would love to come to your church. Keep on doing what you are doing.
The church age cannot end. Ever wonder how Jews in the tribulation can come to Christ? If they do, they will be grafted onto their own "olive tree" (Rem. 11). That olive tree today only consists of Jews and Gentiles who believe in Jesus. They are spiritual Israel and are they not the church? Indeed they are. Today the church is the believing branches of the tree, Jew and Gentile. So, how can they get grafted onto the tree in the tribulation, if the church is removed?????
He was quoting verses from a corrupted Bible.
Did he just say he has only 15mins and then preach for 50mins and pray for 10mins?
Apostle Paul would be proud.
Good message anyhow.
This makes sense. Voicing many thoughts I have been having for some time as a Reformed believer. Thank you.
This is good. If you desire more of teachings like this in my opinion no one does more thorough job than Gary DeMar check him out.
Ken Gentry is another good teacher.
@@jayscybermind5537 Yes, and so is Bruce Gore, R C Sproul, Hank Hanegraaff, Steve Gregg, 😊
@@alongcamejones309. Steve Gregg is my guy!!! And David Pawson, amazing teacher - amazing
By the way Steve Gregg is another truth preaching Bible teacher these two men should hook up and teach the truth about Scripture ✝️🙏🫶
I just found Steve's channel a couple weeks ago. His teachings are excellent.
the so-called reformation is a good example of Christian theologians following trending new doctrines, a behavior that was all the more tempting in that especially when these were supported by state power...
Awesome message!!! Thanks so much for the message in this video!!!
That really blessed me. Thank you. :) hard to find pastors who really understand the New Covenant and who it applies to. :)
Interestingly Jeremiah 31:31, Hebrews 8:10 and Ephesians 2:11-12 say you're not included in the covenants, but Ephesians 3:1-10 say you're a member of the Body of Christ - saved apart from Israel.
It is now eight years later and Dispensationalism is looking real good. One thing for sure
it did not cause the demise of the West, "The Rotting Corpse of Christianity is the culprit".
After ministering and being taught by the Lord Jesus Christ for perhaps 3-1/2 years or so, one of the questions asked to Jesus on the Mount of Olives was "... what shall be the sign of thy coming?" Coming? He was right there with them. They clearly expected Him to come again. After His crucifixion and during the time He appeared to many before His ascension, what was the LAST question a disciple asked of Him? "Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?" (Acts 1:6) So it's obvious that not only the Jews were expecting the return of the King, Herod expected a King and killed children to prevent His coming and Christ's own disciples were expecting an earthly, political and national kingdom. Did Christ reprove the disciple? No. It's just not for us to know the time.
Spot on. My eyes were opened around 2009 when a friend challenged me with a statement. I replied I didn't really know because I had never heard anything taught but the DS nonsense. Six months later I had to tell him he was correct. God also opened my eyes to others things as well that radically change my spiritual walk. Still most of my friends still believe the nonsense. They have no clue how biblically off base they are. I've often said God is not going to support or reinforce anything in his Kingdom that is not true... hence they will never see the activity of God around them like they really want to see it.
Frankly, that seems to be the story with a lot of former believers in Dispenationalism. We were going about our usual business of worshipping Israel, and the Holy Spirit told us something was wrong. I remember including some quote by Elie Wiesel at the end of some term paper. Then some dude online told me that I was 'brainwashed.' A few days later I had to admit that he was correct.
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!
Amen brother teach the truth 🙏 Amen !
I think this sermon is a great disservice to the truth. It is a fact there are different dispensations in the Bible. Paul uses the word (in greek of course).
We can discuss what the different dispensations may be, but to just say there are none and that the concept of different dispensations is destroying God’s plan is just plain silly.
I would like to know more of what this pastor believe about the antichrist
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Anti Christ is never mentioned in Daniel nor Revelation. The Beast was Nero, the Little Horn of Daniel was Selucid Antiochus Epiphanies.
Anti Christ comes from First John and he refers to anyone who denies the Divinity of Jesus has the spirit of Anti Christ.
No, this view is not exciting and doesn't sell books, but yes, it is much more Textually accurate.
The beast was Rome.
The harlot was Jerusalem.
The 7 heads are 7 Caesars.
10 horns are the 10 emperors.
3 were never Caesars and were 3 horns/kings that were subdued/fell.
7 heads (Caesars)
1. Julius
2. Augustus
3. Tiberius
4. Gaius (Caligula)
5. Claudius
6. Nero
5 are fallen, 1 is (currently ruling at the time John penned revelation.
At number 6 suffered a deadly wound with the suicide of Nero. The empire almost collapsed and fell into civil war.
The other is not yet come, but when he cometh, he must continue a short space:
7. Vespasian.
The empire’s deadly wound was healed.
Vespasian only stayed a short space in Jerusalem a few months then departed back to Rome and left it to his son, Titus.
8. Titus.
The 8th is of the 7 and goeth into perdition.
The 3 subdued only reign
Who can tell me what "Dispensation" means? Who can tell me why God put it in His Word that will endure "FOREVER"! "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."! Matthew 24:35
1Co 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
Eph 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
All Christians have to say with Paul... "Whereof I am made a minister, according to the DISPENSATION of God which is given to me for you, to "FULFIL" the word of God;"
Are you going to deny your Christian calling to preach to the world the DISPENSATIONS OF GOD??? Are you going to "RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH TO MAKE IT UNDERSTANDABLE TO ALL????
I ASK BY THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD... WHAT IS THIS MAN TEACHING HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen, brother Barry! Excellent post! Not sure why it's "pessimistic" to get out
*(1) The Gospel Of The Grace And PEACE Of God, and (2) "Encouraging" the*
*Body Of CHRIST Of "Today's" Dispensation (God's Church "Management" Of*
*"DISPENSING" GRACE And Peace!) To ALL "members," With "Right Division!"...*
{ it is *Certainly A Great "Positive" JOY!* for me ♫😇↑ }
...instead of The Mass "Confusion Of Contradictions" religious Method Of Most...
And, Please, ALL Be *Very RICHLY BLESSED!!:*
*God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!*
For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!*
Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please
"remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!)
for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!):
*FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?:
*(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJB ##)*
*The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:*
100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,*
*In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!*
*(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)*
*Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:*
*The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)*
***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"***
***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"*
*Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,*
*so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:***
*"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,*
*Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:*
*And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"*
*(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen? Because:
*GRACE Departure "Could" Happen At ANY MOMENT!!* Amen?
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IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!,
Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:*
*"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye Separate, Saith*
*The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,*
*And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,*
*Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)*
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Therefore:
*God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"*
*believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!*
rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!:
*PEACE From The Great God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!:*
*"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,*
*And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)*
Surely, *Gratitude To God For HIS UNSPEAKABLE Gift is in order DAILY!* Amen?
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continued in *Approval Unto God!...*
Addendum: *Approval Unto God!:*
*Grace/Peace From God, The Father, And From The LORD And Saviour,*
*JESUS CHRIST!*
*LORD JESUS, Before you Come To Gather us Home To Heaven, Please*
*Grant Thy Divine Help to understand Thy Word Of Truth, Rightly*
*Divided!"* Amen:
*What Would God, In HIS Age Of GRACE Today, Have* us Also "DO,"
that was *"learned, and received, and heard, and seen, In Paul"* ?
*(Philippians 4 : 9!)*
*"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto God, a workman That*
*Needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!"*
*(2 Timothy 2 : 15!)*
*"Sample" Of Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!:*
Leaders/Numbers in *God's TWO "Different" Programs:*
(1) Representative apostles + number! For: God’s LAW/PROPHETIC Program:
God’s Complete Number TWELVE “represents:”
TWELVE "baptismS," TWELVE tribes of Israel, TWELVE apostles who will
rule in the "Prophesied" Kingdom *With CHRIST!,* on TWELVE thrones
(Genesis 49 : 28; Isaiah 9 : 7, 32 : 1; Matthew 19 : 28;
Luke 22 : 30; James 1 : 1!)
*gospel of the kingdom!:*
Salvation = "he that believeth AND is baptized Shall Be SAVED!"
(Mark 16 : 16 cp *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 2 : 38; James 2 : 17-18!)
And "Includes" the following (Part Of "Great Commission"?)!:
*"...these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they*
*cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take*
*up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt*
*them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover....*
*The LORD Working with them, And Confirming The Word with*
*SIGNS following!"* (Mark 16 :17-18,20, et al!)
Note:
ALL "Diligent" students of *Scripture* "should" Already "know"
that ALL of *God's Promises TO Israel,* Are _For The EARTH!,_ correct?
prophesied “since the world began” (Luke 1 : 68-70; Acts 3 : 21!)
The Second { "Prophesied" } Coming To Set Up God’s “Earthly Kingdom:"
HIS Purpose FROM “the foundation of the world” (Matthew 25 : 34)
►►►► *CHRIST's Promise, **_on the earth:_* Praying FOR And RECEIVING
ALL things you ask for, Belongs HERE! (John 14 : 13-14; 15 : 7, 16, 24!) ◄◄◄◄
In God's Law/Prophetic Program {friend, do you "think" this is for you "Today"?}
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*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From:*
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*God's GRACE And PEACE In HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY!*
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*God's ALL-Sufficient GRACE, From HIS Throne, In* our trials,
sufferings, persecutions, tribulations, troubles, and infirmities!
*(2 Corinthians 1 : 3-4, 12 : 9; Romans 5 : 1-5!) Belongs HERE!* ◄◄◄◄
*God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose BEFORE “the foundation of the world”*
*(Ephesians 1 : 4!)*
*Kept Secret “since the world began”*
*(Romans 16 : 25; Ephesians 1 : 4-11, 3 : 5-9!)*
*(2) Representative apostle + number! For:*
*God’s Revelation Of GRACE In The MYSTERY ("HEAVENLY Program!"):*
*Paul, ONE individual apostle, BOTH Roman and Hebrew, "represents"*
*reconciliation, by GRACE, of BOTH Jew and Gentile, as INDIVIDUALS,*
*SPIRITUALLY Baptized (And "spiritually United!"), By:*
*ONE Baptism! (1 Corinthians 12 : 13 cp Ephesians 4 : 5!),*
*Into ONE Body, In HEAVEN!,* ...
... *[ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,*
*The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The Only HEAD Of HIS Church!!*
*(Acts 22 : 27-28; Philippians 3 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13;)*
*(Ephesians 2 : 11-16, 4 : 1-6!, 5 : 30!) Praise HIS Precious NAME!*
Amen?
*"Today's" Gospel Of The GRACE And PEACE Of God!*
*God's ETERNAL Salvation FOR "Today" ("But NOW!"):*
*“For I [ Paul!] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,*
*How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;*
*And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day*
*According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15 : 3-4!)*
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*"For By GRACE are ye SAVED Through faith; and that not of yourselves:*
*It is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"*
*( Ephesians 2 : 8-9! cp Most of Romans through Philemon! # )*
Note The Contrast!:
ALL "Diligent" students of *Scripture* "should" Soon See That:
ALL Of of *God's Promises TO HIS Body, Today, Are ""HEAVENLY!"" #,*
correct?
*God's GRACE Departure!*
*HE "Could Catch us UP!, To GO THERE, At Any Moment!," According*
*To: ONE { Mystery} "prophetic" Doctrine Of resurrection/departure To*
*HEAVEN! (Esp: 1 Thessalonians 4 : 13-18; 1 Corinthians 15 : 51-57!,*
*In Romans-Philemon #)*
So, please *Do Be Ready For JUDGMENT THERE!*
*(1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)* Amen?
Do you, friend, agree that ALL "members" of *The Body Of CHRIST!*
"should" be in *ONE agreement,* And ALL of us ("members
of one another!"), should be:
*"Endeavouring to keep the Unity of The Spirit in the bond of Peace!*
*There is ONE Body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE*
*hope of your calling; ONE LORD, ONE Faith, ONE Baptism, ONE God*
*and Father of all, Who Is Above all, and through all, and In you all!"*
*(Ephesians 4 : 3-6!)*
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ALL The "NUMBERS experts" know there is A Vast "Difference" Between 12
AND *"ONE,"*
Correct?
Or, we could Make This Fatal ERROR, & just stay with the "Modern"
"wonderful And marvelous" 2000-year-old judeo/christian "combo":
(1) LAW + *(2) GRACE* = (3) "religious Confusion Of Contradictions"
Method...
..."remaining" as a weak And Divided *Church, Displeasing God!*
Correct?
Friends, "which" of the above do "you Believe," In
*God's Age of GRACE "Today," Are CURSED By God!*
*(Galatians 1 : 6-9!)???*
IF your "particular" group "subscribes" to (1) OR (3), Please,
*Obey God, As HE "Beseeches"!:*
*"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye separate,*
*Saith The LORD, And touch not the unclean [ ACCURSED!? ]*
*thing; and I Will Receive you, And Will Be A Father Unto you,*
*And ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty!"*
*(2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)*
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*GRACE/Repentance, Through Faith, & PEACE, Found In SCRIPTURE, to The Honor*
*And GLORY Of GOD, The Father, Through The LORD and SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!*
Amen?
cont'd *In Closing!...*
Amen Brother!
Jesus said, as the serpent was lifted up in the wilderness so must the Son of Man be lifted up... Any who looked at that serpent on the pole would be saved from the snake bite. In like manner whoever will receive the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus for their sins will receive eternal life! You can't lose it for it is not dependant on you just as it was not dependant on those bitten to get well after they looked on the serpent on the pole! this is called JUSTIFICATION... just as if I had never sinned. Now we are being SANCTIFIED by the Holy Spirit working in our life so we learn to follow the ways of Jesus. This we will not do perfectly but we will receive a reward for what we do for Christ. On the day of our GLORIFICATION, we will be rewarded with gold, silver, and precious stones or wood, hay, and stubble these will be passed through fire and what remains is what we will have for following in obedience to Gods word. We will remain with our Lord in heaven forever.
What is being taught today about Daniel’s 70th Week is contrary to what has been taught by the top Bible scholars.
Top Bible commentators like Albert Barnes, John Calvin, Adam Clarke, John Gill, Matthew Henry, Matthew Poole, John Wesley, and others; all teach that Messiah confirmed the covenant that is referenced in Daniel @, and they all teach that He and His disciples completely fulfilled the 70th Week of Daniel prophecy. This was fulfilled after the New Covenant was preached to the Hebrews for 7 years, then after Stephen was stoned to death the narrative changed dramatically, and the Gospel was also preached to the gentile nations., Then the Jewish leader stoned Stephen the Apostle to death, thereby finalizing their rejection of Messiah.
At this point a shift occurred, where the Apostles and Early Church began preaching the Gospel to Gentiles too, which no doubt marks the end of the 7-year period or preaching only to the Jews. Judaism died in 70 AD Rabbis priests & Temple destroyed New Covenant Gospel to Gentiles
"And then they will be offended, and beyray one another, and hate one another" This is because they have been deceived with the Rapture. Where was the rapture for all the murdered and persecuted brethren through this age, the world over?
Thank you for saying that! I bring that up all the time...
@littleredhen2894 yea ,Josh at Servius Christi really lambasts it, here like, "Oh. So In this relative age of co.fort, ,You not suffering for your faith is immenantBecaise YOUR so special., You selfish deceived Christain, How about telling all thos souls in Foxes book of maryters, why it would be beneath God to make you die. ? It's cowardice
Dispensationalist don't believe the gospel will fail
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yes it does, its a defeatist mentality which denies Christ as king
You believe in material Israel. You love dirt and money. You love the children of the devil, the synagogue of Satan. You don't even know what the gospel is.
I have heard some speculate that the Church will fail in its mandate to fulfill the Great Commission, which is much different than saying “the Gospel will fail.” The reason for this speculation is that each dispensation ends in a fall or failure. I personally feel that is a forced tail wagging the dog argument. Not all characteristics of previous dispensations are repeated in successive dispensations.
"Let me spend 15 minutes or so" *looks at video length* hahahah
A key tenant of dispensationalism. Is the rebuilding of the temple of the return to animal sacrifice. That would be the single most blasphemous event in the history of the world. It is saying in effect that Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross was insufficient! God forbid! This tracks with Charles Nelson Darby’s belief that Christ died on the cross for his own sin. That belief goes beyond apostasy into enemy of God. Reject dispensationalism.
Hebrews chs. 10 through 12: For "in a very little while the one who is coming will return- he will not delay;...This phrase, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of things that are shaken-that is, things that have been made-in order that the things that cannot be shaken may remain.
"If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book." Rev. 22:18. The church is dying with plagues from all this abuse of the Word of God, and adding to the book of Revelation.
You mean like when people add to the book by saying the 144,000 are not Jews of the 12 tribes, despite revelation clearly saying they are from the 12 tribes of Israel?
@@Orange6921 Read what Paul and even Jesus had to say about who are real Jews and who are not.
@@churchmythbusters1863 What did Paul say about when when the fulness of the Gentiles has come in? What did Jesus say about when the times of the Gentiles is completed?
@@churchmythbusters1863 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that ****blindness in part is happened to Israel**** until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Rom 11:25
Israel = Israel
Gentiles = Church
The church is not the one under spiritual blindness right now, Israel is.
@ Church Myth Busters
So true . And all the predictions made about the "antichrist" , dates , signs ..all this verges on divination. What a curse we bring upon us !
Oikanomia, stewardship, household, dispensation. The apostle of gentile reconciliation. Paul... Proclaimed it in his prison epistles as Israel was set aside after rejecting their messiah. The mystery was intruduced which indeed is a new dispensation.
I believe you might be referring to Romans regarding the Jews being "set aside" which was not a prison epistle. Maybe you're thinking of a different verse than I am. The mystery Paul uncovered (not introduced) in his prison epistles was that the Gentiles were brought into the same household as "Israel", not that there are two households. I've always known dispensationlism leads to supersessionism, or replacement theology, something that dispensationalist fight against in word, but I've never heard anyone quite so succinctly support it.
Others have stated clearly that all views a essentially dispensational in that they understand that history can be seen in various dispensations or periods of difference and all can be seen as literal or figurative, or historical or futurist however the terms are used to define specific belief systems.
So this video does not reject dispensations, only the theology known as dispensationalism.
@@increasedecrease7933 they had fallen in Romans, but hope was still held out to them. They were.dimissed when Paul had finished with them. In act 28.. We believe today according to ephesians we are blessed to live in a heavenly sphere. No longer blessed with Abraham to the earth, like it was in tge acts period.
@@anthonybardsley4985 I'm not sure I understand the heavenly sphere vs the Abrahamic sphere. But the mystery that Paul "introduced" as you say, Paul himself says was given to all the apostles, not just to Paul (Ephesians 3:5-6). The thing that worries me most of all today about dispensationalism is the eschatalogical implications, that so many dispensationalists hold as necessary, lead them to the same effect as the charge of replacement theology that so many attempt to stick to non-dispensationalists. Your dismissal language is common among dispensationalists and it always concerns me that we use it as a reason to not bring the Jews the gospel.
Explain what you believe the mystery is? Please
A man of wisdom. A man of God! Jesus protect him.
I appreciate
Dispensationalism has to do with how you interpret unfulfilled prophecy. There are 2800 prophecies in the scripture. When the canon of scripture was closed in 100AD, only about 2,500 of those prophecies had been fulfilled. So the question is: what do you do with those other 300 unfulfilled prophecies?
Dispensationalists take a literal view of unfulfilled scripture. That's the foundation of dispensationalism.
If you take a literal approach to prophecy, it leads to the next point which is a distinction between the Church and Israel. Why? Because the unfulfilled prophecies have to do with the Jews.
Amen brother.
The Law was and is not for "doing all those wonderfull things" ( that a herecy! ), but for exposing sin, and making sin known, for without the Law sin is not given the power... in these the Law is good.
BROAD IS THE WAY THAT LEADS TO DESTRUCTION AND MANY GO THERE IN,
NARROW IS THE WAY THAT LEADS TO LIFE AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT,
I would encourage you to make one major adjustment: Before you accuse a teaching as heresy you should quote some primary sources from the teachers you are criticizing. I've lived long enough to know that many people read critics of a viewpoint without reading the primary sources, and much misrepresentation occurs. This message smells similar.
Next, you read a verse from Jeremiah 31. You might want to read the entire chapter and see if you can apply all the verses to your view consistently.