a lot of parents resent their kids. or else they would care to teach them not to behave like animals outside the house. they just ignore them. and blame everyone and everything else on but not their bad parenting.
Toxic enviroment, big time! I quit teaching after 18 years. Never felt better. Low pay, disrespect from administration, students, and parents. Education is not the focus in today‘s schools. Dumbing down seems to be their agenda. Greetings from Ohio.
Have you tried community college? I had a physics teacher who was a terrible teacher lol. But she loved her job. I asked why she took up teaching over her research job(which she was really good at) and she said she felt much more relaxed teaching, which is the opposite of what youre experiencing.
Yes, so more will vote our rights away. Happy Fourth. Means nothing to me now that SCOTUS has turned it's back on so many of us. Thank you for your educational service. Everyone thanks the military for theirs and I am so on board with that, but I think teachers ought to get some modicum of respect from citizenry.
I left after 31.5 years. I can’t believe I lasted that long. I was named state teacher of the year and am Nationally Board Certified. No Child Left Behind did a great deal of damage to education. I have no desire to work in education again.
I am finishing my 4th year right now and jumping to another career. The elephant in the room that no one will address is that as long as disrespectful and unruly kids are completely immune to basic consequences for their actions, NOTHING will ever get better.
i have read that punishing add and adhd kids is counter productive and harmful. they seem to treat each kid like that now. they will definitely have to built more prisons/ mental institutions for criminals in the future.
Teacher of 15 years, won county Teacher of the year actually and was nominated for state Teacher of the year as well...I quit 3 months ago...and will never look back I love 1% of my job (the kids and connecting with the kids), the other 99% I hated...and yes, unfortunately, only about 1% of the job actually has to do with the most important thing in education...the kids
My love for my students and my school is the only thing keeping me there. I have never met a student that I did not love and connect with. My health has deteriorated so much over the past few years, that I’m concerned about longevity. I wish we had actual educators in charge of education, so that the decision made would make more sense.
I knew a teacher with a masters making 58k in nyc....she left and now drives a truck and says she made her whole teaching salary in 4 months and is happier......
@@BumbleBee-bp7du The beds of my nails developed divots due to stress. My best friend (who is 26 and works where I quit) is on heart medication due to stress. The principal has a chronic, fungal lung infection due to stress (which flares and gets worse when the stress is particularly bad) and the teacher I aided for before going full time had capillaries burst in her eye two years in a row due to stress. This job is not worth your health.
Did you find another job? I am thinking of getting out of teaching. I quit after 5 years and moved to Thailand to teach at an international school. I've been here for 5 years. It's much better, but I am thinking of doing something else...
Politics is the BIGGEST driving factor that makes us want to quit or actually quit; the curriculum doesn’t match those who have ulterior motives in life, they spit on teachers with advance degrees refusing to pay based on education, the money is paid to administrators from principals on up who are making six figures and as much as a quarter of a million; the focus is always “college ready” rather than life ready
This why I say more funding won't help; schools in the US have a huge amount of funding; it's just not making it to the places it's needed. We need to stop overpaying administrator and hiring for unnecessary adminstrative positions and pay the people who are actually doing the job of educating.
@@rebekahmontesdeoca565 The classroom teacher needs a lot of things that admin provides. I speak from experience teaching for 34 years in three states and both charter and public, urban and rural districts. The places with fewer administrators offered less support for both teachers and students. Over the years, I served on several committees and saw the workings of the central office staff that dealt with 40K students and 29 campuses. They were able to maintain complex bus and food services, grant writing, legal issues, state testing, ongoing construction, tech support and tax override projects. In districts without these admins, a lot of it has to be contracted out at a premium price or does not get done at all.
I quit after 23 years in the profession - elementary level - just as the pandemic was first hitting. Being a teacher was like being in a bad marriage. It needed to end. Never again.
Try being an UNDERPAID SUBSTITUTE TEACHER that teachers and students both look DOWN ON. Starving No guarantee pay under any circumstances including LOCKDOWNS
School district administration read and hear the same things we do. They know teachers are leaving in droves, yet they do nothing to change policy. Instead of feeling supported during and after the unprecedented pandemic, they add to the pressure. Why would anyone want to do this?
Hey the administrators are doing a lot. They are giving themselves pay rises because they have to work in these difficult times where teachers are leaving because of low pay.
I am an educator seriously planning on leaving the profession for something really lucrative and that gets respect because I am so sick of the lack of it and now the tremendous disrespect from elected government officials. Idaho education is in crisis. 3 of my friends left over the past 2 years and I know several colleagues at my school who are ready to walk out the door. Lack of adequate funding and very poor leadership are seriously, seriously hurting our kids.
The school I used to work for had a MASSIVE teacher exodus in 2020. 30% just up and left and many of them were veteran teachers who had been with the school for decades. It’s such a shame.
The problem is not the lack of funding. Just look at how the money in your district is spent. To b sure, much of this is because administration is told by federal and state authorities what they must spend it on. But do not kid yourself: even the most kindly administrator is focused on her/her career and will avoid as much responsibility as he or she can, They refuse to make decisions. pretending their hands are tied, when it is not the case. Sound like politicians? They are.
Most of the problem is not the amount of funding, it is how much of those funds manages to get to the teachers. By far the vast majority of those funds are spent on administrators and their cronies.
Death by 1000 cuts-- yes! This is the best descriptor of what has happened in American education to public school teachers. I entered the profession in 1990. It was beautiful back then and I could teach what students needed so each kid could move forward academically. Now it's absolutely ridiculous. I will retire and NEVER look back. My salary? $45k. I have a master's degree.
Parents are a child’s first teacher….they are the one’s who should be held accountable if their child is failing in school. They clearly haven’t taught their children the foundation of learning at home, respect, accountability and motivation!
This I went into elementary school knowing how to read because my grandmother worked with me and taught me before preschool. The support from family making sure kids know that they need to love learning and respect teachers is severely lacking. I’ve only been teaching three years and I’m making moves to change careers it’s not worth it
that can be true. but lets not act like teachers are not problematic.. tenure teachers.. teachers who spew political views and do not allow conversation.. Teachers that just don't care.. the parents need to vet the teachers and the school first and foremost. My experience was awful, there was very little learning and it was all politics and pandering...
@@erikaw7767 So, based on your own subjective experiences, that means that this must be objectively true and that all teachers, as a generalized whole, must be publicly "vetted" (aka punitively harrassed,, intimidated, and punished) for the perceived injustices that you faced, even as the number of teachers is dwindling?? Didn't you learn about what happened during the witch trials or the Red Scare... or were you simply too busy brewing resentment to take notice? You may need therapy, as it seems that you have quite a bit of unresolved bitterness.
@@JRobbySh Your comment is insightful and terribly sad. This situation is precisely what needs to be addressed, yet our government--which is made up of our citizens--continues to ignore, deny and bury the truth.
They make us pass everyone and I have students reading on a 1st grade level in 7th grade. Not to mention this is the worst year of my career. I am burnt out and underpaid. We aren’t respected by superiors, parents, students , nor society. Last year. Done. Only thing I’ll miss are the kids.
Why would we respect an educational system that passes kids that read on a first grade level in 7th grade and we know how horrible the math scores of our students are?
He hit the nail on the head. There is very little keeping those of us still teaching in the classrooms, and this is a nationwide problem. Moving to another district or even state changes little. I'm glad more teachers are speaking up about the unsustainable workload and appallingly low pay. Teachers are leaving not because they are greedy, but because they simply cannot support themselves and cannot work 50-60 hours a week without burning out. It's ridiculous.
How many teacher households do you know where both partners do not work? In envy people note that teachers get the summers off. They do not know that they are not paid for that time off. When I was working for the Overseas schools for the DOD many years ago, one military guy had the bright idea of NOT prorating our salaries over the twelve months but stopping pay in June and restart in August. Many foolish teachers had not saved for the summer and by the following year the myriads complaints had ended that practice.
@@JRobbySh You do realize that there are teachers that are single and single parents and in today's economy it is very difficult to get by on 1 salary even without children. Even with a partner with a job it can be difficult paying the bills. I really don't think you understand how underpaid teachers are. Teachers definitely do know that they are not paid for 3 months out of the year! Your one experience many years ago sounds like a lack of communication. Some teachers want jobs over the summer but who's going to hire you for just 2 months in the summer? Some teachers manage to have second jobs that they do throughout the school year, but it's impractical for a teacher already working 60 hour weeks. And what about their own families and children? How would you feel knowing that after your child's teacher spends 8 hours at school, they go to their 2nd job waiting tables? I'd love to have a 2nd job but my 1st one takes everything out of me. If I didn't have summer off I wouldn't be able to make it to the next school year. And you have to understand that even with summers off, 60 hour weeks is exhausting and not sustainable long-term. That will burn out your workforce which is why about half of teachers quit within 5 years. That's a terrible turnover rate.
Update: I got a summer job! I did food delivery about 40 hours a week in July. I plan on continuing that at least 1 day a week during the school year and on breaks. I made the same doing that as my teacher salary. But, man, I am tired and not prepared for the school year that starts this week :( Worried about burn out, but I got bills.
I left the profession of teachers after only 11 years in the field. The only part of teaching I loved was actually teaching the students and seeing their growth throughout the year. I worked 81 hours a week as a third grade teacher in another state. It's become impossible to teach with all the other stuff attached to the actual teaching. There needs to be a work-life balance in education along with more money. My students had the highest scores in 3rd grade. I had two students in two separate years get Reader of the Year for the County. My health was starting to suffer from all the work requirements. I was also grade chair, which added an extra workload on me. Professional Development meetings after school, parent meetings, disaplinary paperwork for students, IEPs, ESOL students, Special Education students, Title students, gifted students, were all in my classroom and needed their needs met on a daily basis. Data reports, reading nights, math nights, international nights, lesson plans, grading, grade level meetings, are all part of the teacher's job. The list goes on and on....Checking emails everyday, testing before a lesson and after a lesson. Making time to reteach concept that students didn't get. Individual testing each student 3 times a year. Please don't get sick because that will put you further behind. The politicians who come up with these laws need to see how impossible it is to try to accomplish without getting burned out and frustrated. The laws look good on paper, but are practically impossible to do. Also, I spent a lot of my own money in the classroom. I left a profession that I was good at to find a 40 hour work week so I could work to live instead of live to work. God bless the teachers who work in the public school system.
The US public school system is crumbling. No respect and pay that doesn't justify all the nonsense. Go to a country that respects teachers. This one clearly doesnt.
I always thought that it would be better teaching at the college level, but it isn't. My friend began teaching at a state university and described the same kinds of entitled, disrespectful behaviors that I saw in my high school classroom in his college classes. He was so unhappy that he left to teach at an American university in Beirut and is much happier teaching there.
@@dixie0625 I have taught college classes for many years the same disrespect and entitlement are in those people. It is disgusting to have to put up with it even in college now. Accommodations are a big thing in college now. It is ridiculous. I had to change professions and I loved teaching.
I’ve taught middle school for 5 years and I’m pursuing leaving now. When he described what he loved about middle school, I paused hard because it’s exactly what I say.
Same in Texas. Having a realistic view of what is reasonable and valuing my health and dignity probably a bit higher than the average teacher, I got out of this farce of a career in 2019. Funny, but this was never an issue when I was teaching in Europe. And the plan to re-expatriate to Europe out of this dumpster fire of a country got completly thwarted by COVID. Best of luck to the suckers who get into "education" in America- you'll need it. And for those of you sticking it out, either God bless you for being quite literally saints, or what the F are you waiting for to reclaim your sanity?!?!?!??????
The trouble is that all of the money and resources that should be going to the teachers is being taken by the administrators and education board members to give themselves a second home, which they need in these tough times, where all of the teachers are complaining about their low pay.
Just finished 35 yrs. They just add more and more work onto teachers and most of it doesn’t even benefit children. Parents think teachers are there to teach school but that doesn’t seem to be the goal of the school system. Teachers have morning duty, afternoon duty and meetings almost everyday after school. We all think we know education and teaching because we all went to school. If anyone walked in a teacher’s shoes for a week or two, they would apologize if they’ve been critical. I could list all the work a teacher has here but it’s exhaustive.
You can implement every law/regulation in the book but it is up to the student to apply themselves. The teachers can only do so much with an unmotivated student.
Completely agree, all of it starts at home. Weak leadership and the refusal to remove the students who don't need to be in the same class as the kids that actually try are the reason I want to jump off myself sinking ship.
It’s so validating to see this statement! It’s NOT a lack of classroom management. And I personally don’t want to put in every ounce of effort to try to get that kid to have one good day with me. You have to be authoritarian to suck out most behavioral problems. To allow children to be themselves is not a lack of classroom management, but it opens the door for the AWFUL behaviors as well. There’s no winning.
parents need to put their kids in good schools... and pay attention to what they teach. Where i went to school was a joke you could want to learn but it helped nothing. Every class was a political lecture.. everything taught was through the teachers political view.. most kids were driven into apathy either through boredom or just flat out anger..
I started teaching students as a graduate student in 1995 at SUNY Stony Brook. Twenty-seven years of educational service, which I saw as my dream profession. In my current position Twenty years this month and never been more sad and disheartened. It's hitting faculty at university too. I adore my students. I am so proud of them. But, I can't compete with cell phones, tablets, the online platforms, and it's easily an 80 hour a week job. And many faculty at university are in contract positions, so no tenure and I'm a 12 month faculty member. People have no idea and it's changed since those early days. Also won two teaching awards and nominated for Distinguished teaching professor twice.
I'm so glad to have taken early retirement just before the pandemic hit. I taught high school math for 26 years at the same school. Common core crapola, changing curriculum standards every 2 or 3 years, ditching textbooks and purchasing software to generate assignments and tests, having two gosh-awful administrators for 5 years until they were given their walking papers, kids addicted to their phones, distracted, and slightly more detached and less respectful than those I taught a decade ago. Thankfully, in the last few years I taught, we had a great superintendent who cleaned house and got competent teachers and principals at all levels of our system.
Excellent interview with middle school teacher, Mike Tetrault. Rep. Barbara Ehardt's comment about withholding education funding, accusing teachers of being disinterested in their jobs and students was sickening, especially considering the fact that Idaho is 51st nationwide in funding per student (Yes, 51st - that includes D.C.). After teachers bent over backwards, doing triple flips on roller skates to educate our children during 2020, Lawmakers thanked them by holding teacher pay hostage this spring until the governor signed a law, banning Critical Race Theory. Despite efforts by Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin's sleuth committee to expose teachers doing so, ZERO evidence was found that any teacher in all of Idaho was teaching Critical Race Theory. Not one teacher. Idaho leaders need to stop looking for excuses and reasons to not properly fund our children's education. It's embarrassing for our state.
The Lt. Governor was looking in the wrong direction. The public school establishment IS pushing critical race theory on the schools. When diversity becomes the “buzz-word,” or what was in the ‘60s called a “god-word” than the very complicated task of dealing with ordinary students includes serving priveleged “victim: classes, then the teachers task become impossible. No way is fairness--in the meaningful sense- to be achieved.
Education starts in t he HOME. If parents don't read to their kids, help them with homework, etc etc, no matter how much money you throw at it, it's not going to work. I already knew how to read before I went to kindergarten because my parents taught me. That's how it used to be.
My kid never had homework and wasn't allowed to even bring books home. Which means no parent of any kid at the school had any idea what the kids were even learning or if they needed help or not.
18 years in. I’ve received many of those same letters and they really do help. However my bank doesn’t accept them to pay my mortgage or my student loans. The crisis in education is well-known it’s just no one cares. It’s easy to fix too! Pay teachers what they’re worth and not with the biased people who is the only viewpoint of education is from 30 years ago when they were students. Its job with a masters degree required Payette what other jobs with masters degree is required car that simple
Unfortunately a master’s degree in education is generally worthless. The schools of education only teach the jargon that the school districts love so much. They want “good employees,” those who serve their interests.
The loss of the public's trust in teachers is so disheartening and the ongoing battles about curriculum are doing nothing except driving people away from the profession. At this point, a disturbingly high percentage of those who are now getting hired are not qualified. This situation will end up as a self-fulfilling prophecy about the system and damage societal structure for decades to come..
Wow how can that lady assume, that teachers don't want to be there, so you don't want to fund them. Has she ever taught or been a teacher before. I notice that a lot of people that are leader's never been a teacher long enough to even no what's it's like or if they have taught for a while before getting a leadership role, but has lost the understanding of what it was like.
I fear for the level of education in the US. It is such a shame that teachers are treated as they are. A lot of people do not understand the impact teachers have on children. I am married to an elementary school teacher here in the Netherlands. We have similar issues here as well.
As an expatriate who has taught in five different countries, I can tell you education is badly broken in all of the anglophone countries and countries that follow the anglophone model. I can state the root of the problem in two words: teacher bashing.
i am an expat teacher, and I am going to quit teaching because of the toxic work environment. I dont understand why and how Administrators became the enemy of the teacher
The mask mandate was really hard for me, and I have a different job and not an educator. I have had several nose surgeries, and could not wear my mask for long periods of time. As a result, I quit my job and work from home now. I can imagine how hard it would be for teachers constantly having to implement mandated mask policies upon kids. There is hardly any time left to teach.
I'm a science teacher. 18 years and let go before tenured. Shortage or not, admin do not care. A coach,.coach's wife, or new grad from the home town trumps all. Hide the pink.slip.for 18.years has broken.me. Can teach life science, chemistry, dual credit biology,.and dual credit anatomy. What do I get, low level earth science and no Collab help.
I think the alt right politicians are taking what was good and rewarding about teaching and throwing it into the faces of good teachers. Nationwide there will be an exodus of good teachers and the bigger tragedy is that is will be 100% preventable. People need to vote the alt right of offices from the local school boards and city councils to the statehouse and beyond.
Teacher are heroes we all remember the ones that had big impact on our education . Mrs Shoen got me interested in history , Mrs Peterson was reading teacher she was old school but taught me a lot . Hope Idaho vote these anti education, Anti-vaccines GQP cultist state legislatures and Govonors need voted out . Education is key more education you have more choices you have in life and in personal life . God Bless all Idaho teachers in these trying times hopefully everything work out for you all .
Could it be worse than it is in Idaho ? I used to live in Colorado. The state is ranked third from the bottom of all 50 states, right after Mississippi and Alabama. Teacher pay in Colorado ranks 46th out of all 50 states. It's mostly uneducated farmers and ranchers who don't care a whit about education.
By and large, the Idaho legislature could CARE LESS about education, student learning, or the ability of teachers to pay their bills. The ONLY, I repeat, the ONLY thing the vast majority of Idaho legislators care about is KEEPING TAXES DOWN and balancing the state budget every year on the backs of state employees and educators!! There are a few who care, maybe 1-2%. They are outnumbered by the ones bought out by corporate and business interests. The entire state of Idaho Education system needs to STRIKE and WALK OUT! Hats off to Mike for what he has done in the classroom! Idaho is an EMBARRASSMENT to education!
I’m so happy that I made it out of high school 🏫. Learning what I just watched now I can safely say that self-learning would be the way to go for me. And I’m gonna feel sorry for the generation of kids.
This is world wide problem in the West. No different here in Australia. Been a teacher for 24 years and I am contemplating giving it away. Overworked, unappreciated, underpaid and burned out. Thousands of teachers in my country are quitting regardless of how long they have been teaching.
The amount of help my kid got from these teachers in meridian was the reason I pulled my kid from public school. They were leaving her behind. She was getting bullied also and they didn't listen. Bullying is different nowadays its border line the police should be involved. Either way her grades and education were so much better when we lived in another state.
We are ranked 51st in education (below the District of Columbia, too) for a very good reason. We manufacture cheap labor in this state. Best way to accomplish that is by creating dirt dumb kids. The Idaho Freedom Foundation understands. It's why they love passing on directives from billionaire financiers, above, to state legislators, on how they are to attack our educators. Some of our leaders betrayed themselves flunkies last session when they confessed they didn't know what 'critical race theory' was. They only knew some cryptic, powerful force from without, communicating via the IFF, was ordering an attack on teachers, using C.R.T. as yet another strategy to dumb down public schools. . .make them more racist if possible, too, in the name of anti-racism because that facilitates division, also, which has ever been a goal of plutocrats. So what teachers need to understand is, if they're educating Idaho kids too much, they're failing. So stop working so hard. Relax! It's what legislative bosses, billionaire outsiders, like to see. You know they meet twice a year concocting schemes on how to hold control of America. And of course, maintaining cheap labor (which bad education allows) is high on their list, as is switching as many government revenues as possible away from public to private schools, for better serving the aristocracy. So there's a place good teachers can go. Private schools for the rich or public schools in wealthy neighborhoods. They won't try to dumb down teachers, there.
Beautiful piece. On private schools- read about the Bishops school in La Jolla, Ca. This is where the really corrupt who fouled their nests in public Ed go to roost.
Even if cheap labor is the goal, my state was doing a horrible job of producing that. The local factories struggled to find blue collar workers who could show up on time, appropriately clothed, and not high or hung over. I personally think it’s because we were never allowed to hold students to certain expectations in the classroom, like showing up on time, or wearing appropriate clothing (whatever that was… some years a uniform, some years anything that wasn’t a bikini). The students graduated with both a lack of academic knowledge and skills, and a lack of practical knowledge and skills.
@@maryl8614 Factory turnover rates average 37% annually. That's high compared to most jobs but not with what it was over a hundred years ago when for decades at the beginning of the 20th Century, factory turnover rates ranged from 100% to 160%. I confess I only lasted three days on an assembly line and promised myself never to subject myself to such tedious work again. I've worked hard ever since. But that was a mind-numbing experience worthy of good pay and benefits if anyone is wiling and able to do it. I think people work harder now than when I was young. I remember cashiers and restaurant workers used to chat with each other throughout the day. Their conversations could be heard in the background when I was shopping for pants or sitting at the bar of a hamburger joint. They had fun. I don't see such jovial conversations anymore when shopping. There is still more variety of experience for them than in a factory. But the rapid pace required is such that food service, grocery, and store clerks have to internalize their thoughts while working, now, much like in a factory. Truck drivers work so hard, police have to check their time records and issue them tickets when they catch them working more than the law allows. Everyone around me has always worked hard. What's changed is, many employees aren't being rewarded like they were in the past, despite being allowed more interaction time and fun on the job back when pay was sufficient to pay the rent or buy a home. Henry Ford solved his turnover problem by offering a much increased wage. He said he wanted his workers to be able to afford buying one of the cars they were making. Others took advantage of the Great Depression of the '30s to retain desperate workers. Those have been their two methods of success, reward workers or create desperation so great they're afraid to quit. Guess which one they prefer?
Average school today- 25 administrators at 150 K 10 diversity czars at 150 K 10 Gender counselors at 150K 10 inclusivity supervisors at 150 K 20 teachers at 40 K
my wife has been a teacher for nearly 30 years (yes, with MS Degree). She says the problem is that the SCHOOL BOARDS AND ADMINISTRATORS refuse to have and enforce reasonable discipline policies. The solution is to elect school boards that set discipline as a top priority and monitor them and insist that they hire school administrators who understand that. IF you want to make things better for everyone, run for election to your school board. Get like minded people to run also. You CAN get elected and fix this mess. You can then see to it that policies that end the chaos are implemented and that school administrators DO THEIR JOBS. Then the teachers would be supported and backed up when they discipline disruptive students. Parents would again support and backup the teachers. Then the chaos would END. Schools would again be SANE asylums, as they were when I grew up. NEVER chaotic. No attacks on other students (ok, sure, there was the rare fight, but only between 2 students and not knock down drag outs), but NEVER an attack on a teacher. Ancient history, I guess. I graduated HS in 1964.
This could be anywhere. This was my 23 year teaching. Still three weeks left. I will think long and hard whether I will continue or hang it up this year.
One marker of the low status of teachers is the huge gap in pay between teachers and administrators. Teaching, in large part because it has largely to do with child care is a woman’s profession , while administration, though now it includes many more women, is male in orientation. because it deals mainly with “things”, one of which is control of “operations” including hiring a firing. Administration decides also everything: who teaches whom, what, when how(at least in theory) and most importantly where. Contact with actual students is rare, and of course never to teach themselves. Even discipline is deputized to the teacher, and he/she is judged much more on how he/she control classes than on how he/she teaches. Teachers are professionals only in that they must deal with individual students with such diverse personalities because coming from such diverse backgrounds. Each, of course, having parents who if they care are only concerned with the needs of their children. Because of the sheer numbers, that can be only superficial but so many teachers wear themselves out, trying to establish personal relationships. This is one reason why probably half drop after about five years. The expectations so seldom match the reality, and those who stay have adjusted those expectations to meet that reality. One of these is that a teacher is going to have to have a working spouse to enable him/her to escape the genteel poverty historically related to teaching, That can be hard to endure when the Superintendent is paid hundreds of thousands a year even in relatively small districts. T
This environment must be tough on the students too. The next thing they will want to do is transfer taxpayer funds to private corporations 'that will do a better job' and what little is left will be for-profit - schools will be as bad as our for-profit prison systems and for-profit medicare advantage and the for-profit healthcare system.
The Finns have a better system. Their teachers are much more rigorously educated. But it helps that the Finns are such a homogeneous group, both ethnically and economically. We seem to be reverting to tribalism.
When you are told it is toxic to give a kid a 0 for turning in no work, when you are told to pass a certain % of students, when standardized test scores are trusted more than the teacher's own assessment of the kids, it is no surprise teachers feel belittled and mistrusted by their bosses. Add in the verbal and physical abuse from wild kids who know they have carte blanche to do whatever they want without any punishment for it - it is a terrible mess and can hardly be called a "system" of education.
If you have a teacher shortage, and you have teacher’s still leaving, cause a lot of teachers will try to get bye because they want to teach, they want to educate. The administrators must surely realise we have a problem here, we have to fix this, but of course politics will get in the way, either by shrinking education budgets, or holding teacher’s pay expectations hostage to unrealistic outcomes or restrictive curriculum content…
It is also the paperwork and the responsibility of teachers that they have. If you know about the liability and laws the teachers have and when there’s no sped teacher or sped teacher aide it’s harder. Those those kids don’t have someone either 1 to 1 or something and you have to deal like student behavior and students tantrum etc.
kids aren’t stupid, they know how little teachers are paid and how stressed they are. Why would they take out a bunch of loans to become like them? And stop saying it’s the funding. There is more money being poured into education then ever before. If money was the deciding factor, then teaching should be better than ever right now but it’s not. Education needs a complete systemic overhaul before things will improve.
You just jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. With no regulations, charter schools can and DO underpay and overwork teachers, all while undermining the school districts. Frankly, charter organizations are more like organized crime syndicates than educational institutions.
Explain to me why she is so involved in their personal lives that she knows their home situations. Frankly that is inappropriate and she should just be focusing on the coursework and be behavior
It would be great if you'd adhear to the rules of capitalization and punctuation so that your thought could be articulated in a manner which can be understood.
Once again KTVB feels it must editorialize in its news report with built-in biased statements such as "unfounded accusation of teaching critical race theory in schools". Really, did you have to add the "unfounded"? That makes your statement a biased opinion if not an inaccuracy.
LOFL! I grew up in the 80s and I can't remember a single teacher I had. The school system back then as it is now is as a babysitter. I really wish I didn't have to spend 12 years in public school but that is what the systems said I needed. I had enough knowledge by the time I was 14 to go to college and it wasn't because of what I learned in school. It was what I learned from my family, at the jobs I worked and what I taught myself. School was waste of time and most of the people working in the school district I attended were losers (teachers and admins), except for the hard-working custodians, maintenance and kitchen staff. The rest of them were just cruising through life on the government dole, no matter how good or bad they were - with most less than worthless.
Same situation. I nearly failed out of high school but four years later graduated University at the top of my class. I had gone from a private elementary school to a public high school and the shock nearly killed me.
As a nurse, I did not get 3 months of every year, I worked days, nights, weekends, almost every holiday. I have no pension. Teachers can tell us they do not get paid adequately and perhaps they do not, but I see them taking every holiday of the year off and then some. So getting paid 60,000 for 9 months of work with a very generous holiday and paid time off is not too shabby. Am I wrong?.
Yes, you are. All the extra hours we work every single week after and before teaching our students definitely compensate the time we get off during summer. We also start preparing 2 weeks ahead before school starts again. 60,000? Not in Utah or Idaho…
Most parents say they love and support us teachers, but they act the opposite.
It's just talk. Just like in parent conferences when they say Johnny's behavior is going to change and never does.
@@stormchaser419 Yup.
Our progressive society won't allow teaching as a profession anymore.
@@stormchaser419 Just a step above the classic, "Well, he NEVER does that at home."
a lot of parents resent their kids. or else they would care to teach them not to behave like animals outside the house. they just ignore them. and blame everyone and everything else on but not their bad parenting.
Toxic enviroment, big time! I quit teaching after 18 years. Never felt better. Low pay, disrespect from administration, students, and parents. Education is not the focus in today‘s schools. Dumbing down seems to be their agenda. Greetings from Ohio.
Not all schools are bad, my kids Christian private school is filled with ex public school teachers, and they are happy here.
@@junechoi7595 : I agree. It’s just sad that good schools are the exception and not the rule.
Have you tried community college? I had a physics teacher who was a terrible teacher lol. But she loved her job. I asked why she took up teaching over her research job(which she was really good at) and she said she felt much more relaxed teaching, which is the opposite of what youre experiencing.
@@tuanha5264 The community college where I work is almost as bad as public school.
Yes, so more will vote our rights away. Happy Fourth. Means nothing to me now that SCOTUS has turned it's back on so many of us. Thank you for your educational service. Everyone thanks the military for theirs and I am so on board with that, but I think teachers ought to get some modicum of respect from citizenry.
I left after 31.5 years. I can’t believe I lasted that long. I was named state teacher of the year and am Nationally Board Certified. No Child Left Behind did a great deal of damage to education. I have no desire to work in education again.
You made the best decision for yourself. I hope you have a good safety net to reire.
Sweetie you didn't leave you retired. Leaving is when you haven't even hit your 30 years yet
@@Sirach144
You’re right. I’m very lucky I was able to retire. Not everyone has that choice.
Our progressive society won't allow teaching as a profession anymore.
Can you leave them behind without getting in trouble?
I am finishing my 4th year right now and jumping to another career. The elephant in the room that no one will address is that as long as disrespectful and unruly kids are completely immune to basic consequences for their actions, NOTHING will ever get better.
i have read that punishing add and adhd kids is counter productive and harmful. they seem to treat each kid like that now. they will definitely have to built more prisons/ mental institutions for criminals in the future.
Teacher of 15 years, won county Teacher of the year actually and was nominated for state Teacher of the year as well...I quit 3 months ago...and will never look back
I love 1% of my job (the kids and connecting with the kids), the other 99% I hated...and yes, unfortunately, only about 1% of the job actually has to do with the most important thing in education...the kids
My love for my students and my school is the only thing keeping me there. I have never met a student that I did not love and connect with. My health has deteriorated so much over the past few years, that I’m concerned about longevity. I wish we had actual educators in charge of education, so that the decision made would make more sense.
I knew a teacher with a masters making 58k in nyc....she left and now drives a truck and says she made her whole teaching salary in 4 months and is happier......
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@@BumbleBee-bp7du The beds of my nails developed divots due to stress. My best friend (who is 26 and works where I quit) is on heart medication due to stress. The principal has a chronic, fungal lung infection due to stress (which flares and gets worse when the stress is particularly bad) and the teacher I aided for before going full time had capillaries burst in her eye two years in a row due to stress. This job is not worth your health.
Did you find another job? I am thinking of getting out of teaching. I quit after 5 years and moved to Thailand to teach at an international school. I've been here for 5 years. It's much better, but I am thinking of doing something else...
Politics is the BIGGEST driving factor that makes us want to quit or actually quit; the curriculum doesn’t match those who have ulterior motives in life, they spit on teachers with advance degrees refusing to pay based on education, the money is paid to administrators from principals on up who are making six figures and as much as a quarter of a million; the focus is always “college ready” rather than life ready
This why I say more funding won't help; schools in the US have a huge amount of funding; it's just not making it to the places it's needed. We need to stop overpaying administrator and hiring for unnecessary adminstrative positions and pay the people who are actually doing the job of educating.
True
I have 21 6th graders this year. Most are so far behind I doubt they could make it in college. I see 2 or 3 even interested.
Nothing new. Administration is a form of appointive politics.
@@rebekahmontesdeoca565 The classroom teacher needs a lot of things that admin provides. I speak from experience teaching for 34 years in three states and both charter and public, urban and rural districts. The places with fewer administrators offered less support for both teachers and students. Over the years, I served on several committees and saw the workings of the central office staff that dealt with 40K students and 29 campuses. They were able to maintain complex bus and food services, grant writing, legal issues, state testing, ongoing construction, tech support and tax override projects. In districts without these admins, a lot of it has to be contracted out at a premium price or does not get done at all.
I quit after 23 years in the profession - elementary level - just as the pandemic was first hitting. Being a teacher was like being in a bad marriage. It needed to end. Never again.
Exactly my thoughts.
Our progressive society won't allow teaching as a profession anymore.
Try being an UNDERPAID
SUBSTITUTE TEACHER that teachers and students both look DOWN ON.
Starving
No guarantee pay under any circumstances including LOCKDOWNS
Get out now and save your mental health. Join the great teacher resignation underway. I just left after 12 years last week.
School district administration read and hear the same things we do. They know teachers are leaving in droves, yet they do nothing to change policy. Instead of feeling supported during and after the unprecedented pandemic, they add to the pressure. Why would anyone want to do this?
Hey the administrators are doing a lot. They are giving themselves pay rises because they have to work in these difficult times where teachers are leaving because of low pay.
If we don't stop making teachers do everything but teach, they will continue to leave.
Our "progressive" society won't allow teaching as a profession anymore.
I am an educator seriously planning on leaving the profession for something really lucrative and that gets respect because I am so sick of the lack of it and now the tremendous disrespect from elected government officials. Idaho education is in crisis. 3 of my friends left over the past 2 years and I know several colleagues at my school who are ready to walk out the door. Lack of adequate funding and very poor leadership are seriously, seriously hurting our kids.
If you're fairly far from retirement, do not stay in the classroom.
The school I used to work for had a MASSIVE teacher exodus in 2020. 30% just up and left and many of them were veteran teachers who had been with the school for decades. It’s such a shame.
The problem is not the lack of funding. Just look at how the money in your district is spent. To b sure, much of this is because administration is told by federal and state authorities what they must spend it on. But do not kid yourself: even the most kindly administrator is focused on her/her career and will avoid as much responsibility as he or she can, They refuse to make decisions. pretending their hands are tied, when it is not the case. Sound like politicians? They are.
Most of the problem is not the amount of funding, it is how much of those funds manages to get to the teachers. By far the vast majority of those funds are spent on administrators and their cronies.
All you had to write was one word: Idaho. Horror show.
Death by 1000 cuts-- yes! This is the best descriptor of what has happened in American education to public school teachers. I entered the profession in 1990. It was beautiful back then and I could teach what students needed so each kid could move forward academically. Now it's absolutely ridiculous. I will retire and NEVER look back. My salary? $45k. I have a master's degree.
So very, very sad. Tragic, really. I taught in the Philly school district for 18 years......It's going to get worse.
What this teacher said is correct: "It's unsustainable." No one can do this job as it stands, even people who LOVE the profession.
Parents are a child’s first teacher….they are the one’s who should be held accountable if their child is failing in school. They clearly haven’t taught their children the foundation of learning at home, respect, accountability and motivation!
This I went into elementary school knowing how to read because my grandmother worked with me and taught me before preschool. The support from family making sure kids know that they need to love learning and respect teachers is severely lacking. I’ve only been teaching three years and I’m making moves to change careers it’s not worth it
Many are not competent to do that. Think of the millions of single-parent families. So many of them poorly schooled themselves.
that can be true. but lets not act like teachers are not problematic.. tenure teachers.. teachers who spew political views and do not allow conversation.. Teachers that just don't care.. the parents need to vet the teachers and the school first and foremost. My experience was awful, there was very little learning and it was all politics and pandering...
@@erikaw7767 So, based on your own subjective experiences, that means that this must be objectively true and that all teachers, as a generalized whole, must be publicly "vetted" (aka punitively harrassed,, intimidated, and punished) for the perceived injustices that you faced, even as the number of teachers is dwindling?? Didn't you learn about what happened during the witch trials or the Red Scare... or were you simply too busy brewing resentment to take notice? You may need therapy, as it seems that you have quite a bit of unresolved bitterness.
@@JRobbySh Your comment is insightful and terribly sad. This situation is precisely what needs to be addressed, yet our government--which is made up of our citizens--continues to ignore, deny and bury the truth.
They make us pass everyone and I have students reading on a 1st grade level in 7th grade. Not to mention this is the worst year of my career. I am burnt out and underpaid. We aren’t respected by superiors, parents, students , nor society. Last year. Done. Only thing I’ll miss are the kids.
This is my 26th and final year. Getting worse each year.
Why would we respect an educational system that passes kids that read on a first grade level in 7th grade and we know how horrible the math scores of our students are?
@@amerbur ask the legislatures that created it. I fail who fails, regardless of the hoops I have to jump through.
Please don’t say the word superiors because nobody is superior.
@@Jane5720 that’s what you got from my entire comment? Ok
He hit the nail on the head. There is very little keeping those of us still teaching in the classrooms, and this is a nationwide problem. Moving to another district or even state changes little. I'm glad more teachers are speaking up about the unsustainable workload and appallingly low pay. Teachers are leaving not because they are greedy, but because they simply cannot support themselves and cannot work 50-60 hours a week without burning out. It's ridiculous.
How many teacher households do you know where both partners do not work? In envy people note that teachers get the summers off. They do not know that they are not paid for that time off. When I was working for the Overseas schools for the DOD many years ago, one military guy had the bright idea of NOT prorating our salaries over the twelve months but stopping pay in June and restart in August. Many foolish teachers had not saved for the summer and by the following year the myriads complaints had ended that practice.
@@JRobbySh You do realize that there are teachers that are single and single parents and in today's economy it is very difficult to get by on 1 salary even without children. Even with a partner with a job it can be difficult paying the bills. I really don't think you understand how underpaid teachers are. Teachers definitely do know that they are not paid for 3 months out of the year! Your one experience many years ago sounds like a lack of communication. Some teachers want jobs over the summer but who's going to hire you for just 2 months in the summer? Some teachers manage to have second jobs that they do throughout the school year, but it's impractical for a teacher already working 60 hour weeks. And what about their own families and children? How would you feel knowing that after your child's teacher spends 8 hours at school, they go to their 2nd job waiting tables? I'd love to have a 2nd job but my 1st one takes everything out of me. If I didn't have summer off I wouldn't be able to make it to the next school year. And you have to understand that even with summers off, 60 hour weeks is exhausting and not sustainable long-term. That will burn out your workforce which is why about half of teachers quit within 5 years. That's a terrible turnover rate.
Well said, Rachaele Otto! Same here in Texas!
Update: I got a summer job! I did food delivery about 40 hours a week in July. I plan on continuing that at least 1 day a week during the school year and on breaks. I made the same doing that as my teacher salary. But, man, I am tired and not prepared for the school year that starts this week :( Worried about burn out, but I got bills.
I left the profession of teachers after only 11 years in the field. The only part of teaching I loved was actually teaching the students and seeing their growth throughout the year. I worked 81 hours a week as a third grade teacher in another state. It's become impossible to teach with all the other stuff attached to the actual teaching. There needs to be a work-life balance in education along with more money. My students had the highest scores in 3rd grade. I had two students in two separate years get Reader of the Year for the County. My health was starting to suffer from all the work requirements. I was also grade chair, which added an extra workload on me. Professional Development meetings after school, parent meetings, disaplinary paperwork for students, IEPs, ESOL students, Special Education students, Title students, gifted students, were all in my classroom and needed their needs met on a daily basis. Data reports, reading nights, math nights, international nights, lesson plans, grading, grade level meetings, are all part of the teacher's job. The list goes on and on....Checking emails everyday, testing before a lesson and after a lesson. Making time to reteach concept that students didn't get. Individual testing each student 3 times a year. Please don't get sick because that will put you further behind. The politicians who come up with these laws need to see how impossible it is to try to accomplish without getting burned out and frustrated. The laws look good on paper, but are practically impossible to do. Also, I spent a lot of my own money in the classroom. I left a profession that I was good at to find a 40 hour work week so I could work to live instead of live to work. God bless the teachers who work in the public school system.
The US public school system is crumbling. No respect and pay that doesn't justify all the nonsense. Go to a country that respects teachers. This one clearly doesnt.
Our "progressive" society won't allow teaching as a profession anymore.
I always thought that it would be better teaching at the college level, but it isn't. My friend began teaching at a state university and described the same kinds of entitled, disrespectful behaviors that I saw in my high school classroom in his college classes. He was so unhappy that he left to teach at an American university in Beirut and is much happier teaching there.
@@dixie0625 I have taught college classes for many years the same disrespect and entitlement are in those people. It is disgusting to have to put up with it even in college now. Accommodations are a big thing in college now. It is ridiculous. I had to change professions and I loved teaching.
"Go to a country that respects teachers": Only countries I know of that respect teachers are countries in eastern Asia, like China, Japan, etc.
I’ve taught middle school for 5 years and I’m pursuing leaving now. When he described what he loved about middle school, I paused hard because it’s exactly what I say.
Same in Texas. Having a realistic view of what is reasonable and valuing my health and dignity probably a bit higher than the average teacher, I got out of this farce of a career in 2019. Funny, but this was never an issue when I was teaching in Europe. And the plan to re-expatriate to Europe out of this dumpster fire of a country got completly thwarted by COVID. Best of luck to the suckers who get into "education" in America- you'll need it. And for those of you sticking it out, either God bless you for being quite literally saints, or what the F are you waiting for to reclaim your sanity?!?!?!??????
It’s sad when good teachers are pushed out by all this nonsense.
Good for them. My mom left too.
The trouble is that all of the money and resources that should be going to the teachers is being taken by the administrators and education board members to give themselves a second home, which they need in these tough times, where all of the teachers are complaining about their low pay.
Just finished 35 yrs. They just add more and more work onto teachers and most of it doesn’t even benefit children. Parents think teachers are there to teach school but that doesn’t seem to be the goal of the school system. Teachers have morning duty, afternoon duty and meetings almost everyday after school. We all think we know education and teaching because we all went to school. If anyone walked in a teacher’s shoes for a week or two, they would apologize if they’ve been critical.
I could list all the work a teacher has here but it’s exhaustive.
Absolutely!
Don't forget resess duty and lunch duty.
You can implement every law/regulation in the book but it is up to the student to apply themselves. The teachers can only do so much with an unmotivated student.
Completely agree, all of it starts at home. Weak leadership and the refusal to remove the students who don't need to be in the same class as the kids that actually try are the reason I want to jump off myself sinking ship.
It’s so validating to see this statement! It’s NOT a lack of classroom management. And I personally don’t want to put in every ounce of effort to try to get that kid to have one good day with me. You have to be authoritarian to suck out most behavioral problems. To allow children to be themselves is not a lack of classroom management, but it opens the door for the AWFUL behaviors as well. There’s no winning.
This was cited as the reason for leaving by how many teachers in the video?
parents need to put their kids in good schools... and pay attention to what they teach. Where i went to school was a joke you could want to learn but it helped nothing. Every class was a political lecture.. everything taught was through the teachers political view.. most kids were driven into apathy either through boredom or just flat out anger..
@@drodriguez1724 You're absolutely right. Horrific.
I started teaching students as a graduate student in 1995 at SUNY Stony Brook. Twenty-seven years of educational service, which I saw as my dream profession. In my current position Twenty years this month and never been more sad and disheartened. It's hitting faculty at university too. I adore my students. I am so proud of them. But, I can't compete with cell phones, tablets, the online platforms, and it's easily an 80 hour a week job. And many faculty at university are in contract positions, so no tenure and I'm a 12 month faculty member. People have no idea and it's changed since those early days. Also won two teaching awards and nominated for Distinguished teaching professor twice.
I'm so glad to have taken early retirement just before the pandemic hit. I taught high school math for 26 years at the same school. Common core crapola, changing curriculum standards every 2 or 3 years, ditching textbooks and purchasing software to generate assignments and tests, having two gosh-awful administrators for 5 years until they were given their walking papers, kids addicted to their phones, distracted, and slightly more detached and less respectful than those I taught a decade ago. Thankfully, in the last few years I taught, we had a great superintendent who cleaned house and got competent teachers and principals at all levels of our system.
I can relate to all these fellow educators. Too much politics, administrative and nagging parents. Too often the teachers are the ones expendable.
You are at the bottom the totem pole. Where else is the pressure to be but on the foundation.
The situation is really bad in Florida too. 😞
Excellent interview with middle school teacher, Mike Tetrault. Rep. Barbara Ehardt's comment about withholding education funding, accusing teachers of being disinterested in their jobs and students was sickening, especially considering the fact that Idaho is 51st nationwide in funding per student (Yes, 51st - that includes D.C.). After teachers bent over backwards, doing triple flips on roller skates to educate our children during 2020, Lawmakers thanked them by holding teacher pay hostage this spring until the governor signed a law, banning Critical Race Theory. Despite efforts by Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin's sleuth committee to expose teachers doing so, ZERO evidence was found that any teacher in all of Idaho was teaching Critical Race Theory. Not one teacher. Idaho leaders need to stop looking for excuses and reasons to not properly fund our children's education. It's embarrassing for our state.
It is like this in Florida too. 😞
The Lt. Governor was looking in the wrong direction. The public school establishment IS pushing critical race theory on the schools. When diversity becomes the “buzz-word,” or what was in the ‘60s called a “god-word” than the very complicated task of dealing with ordinary students includes serving priveleged “victim: classes, then the teachers task become impossible. No way is fairness--in the meaningful sense- to be achieved.
Education starts in t he HOME. If parents don't read to their kids, help them with homework, etc etc, no matter how much money you throw at it, it's not going to work. I already knew how to read before I went to kindergarten because my parents taught me. That's how it used to be.
My kid never had homework and wasn't allowed to even bring books home. Which means no parent of any kid at the school had any idea what the kids were even learning or if they needed help or not.
There isn't problem with funding, it's making sure the money goes to the teachers. Of course teachers don't want to be there. The pay is an insult.
Yes.
I'd pay a retired teacher to homeschool my kid. Just saying.
I'd take that job
Ok :)
18 years in. I’ve received many of those same letters and they really do help. However my bank doesn’t accept them to pay my mortgage or my student loans. The crisis in education is well-known it’s just no one cares. It’s easy to fix too! Pay teachers what they’re worth and not with the biased people who is the only viewpoint of education is from 30 years ago when they were students. Its job with a masters degree required Payette what other jobs with masters degree is required car that simple
Unfortunately a master’s degree in education is generally worthless. The schools of education only teach the jargon that the school districts love so much. They want “good employees,” those who serve their interests.
The loss of the public's trust in teachers is so disheartening and the ongoing battles about curriculum are doing nothing except driving people away from the profession. At this point, a disturbingly high percentage of those who are now getting hired are not qualified. This situation will end up as a self-fulfilling prophecy about the system and damage societal structure for decades to come..
The schools depend on relatively cheap labor.
@@JRobbySh Right on! You get what you pay for.
Taxpayers are charged enough for top-shelf education, but administrators are giving us the cheapest stuff they can find.
How do we get rid of GOP?
Wow how can that lady assume, that teachers don't want to be there, so you don't want to fund them. Has she ever taught or been a teacher before. I notice that a lot of people that are leader's never been a teacher long enough to even no what's it's like or if they have taught for a while before getting a leadership role, but has lost the understanding of what it was like.
Yup.
Even if they do, they have careers to protect.
This past year, after many teachers in our school district resigned, a school board member said, "Those teachers are lazy and don't want to work."
Thank you for your service Mike!
Legislators send their kids to private schools.
This!
I taught... I wouldn't do that again anymore than going into law enforcement. People are monsters.
.... and so are their kids, as well as certain toxic teachers and admin.
I fear for the level of education in the US. It is such a shame that teachers are treated as they are. A lot of people do not understand the impact teachers have on children. I am married to an elementary school teacher here in the Netherlands. We have similar issues here as well.
As an expatriate who has taught in five different countries, I can tell you education is badly broken in all of the anglophone countries and countries that follow the anglophone model. I can state the root of the problem in two words: teacher bashing.
i am an expat teacher, and I am going to quit teaching because of the toxic work environment. I dont understand why and how Administrators became the enemy of the teacher
It’s been downhill ever since they abolished child beating.
The mask mandate was really hard for me, and I have a different job and not an educator. I have had several nose surgeries, and could not wear my mask for long periods of time. As a result, I quit my job and work from home now. I can imagine how hard it would be for teachers constantly having to implement mandated mask policies upon kids. There is hardly any time left to teach.
I was told education is overfunded, teachers had an easy job and made incredible cash.
Yeah, you were told....but not by a teacher. That funding doesn't go to teachers. You may guess where the big salaries in education are.
Bravo Idaho. You did it
For me as a European it es absolutely mindblowing that a teacher has actually to pay their substitute when they fall sick.
I'm a science teacher. 18 years and let go before tenured. Shortage or not, admin do not care. A coach,.coach's wife, or new grad from the home town trumps all. Hide the pink.slip.for 18.years has broken.me. Can teach life science, chemistry, dual credit biology,.and dual credit anatomy. What do I get, low level earth science and no Collab help.
Chin up. Value yourselves you are valuable.
school teachers need to get pay more.
I think the alt right politicians are taking what was good and rewarding about teaching and throwing it into the faces of good teachers. Nationwide there will be an exodus of good teachers and the bigger tragedy is that is will be 100% preventable. People need to vote the alt right of offices from the local school boards and city councils to the statehouse and beyond.
Teacher are heroes we all remember the ones that had big impact on our education . Mrs Shoen got me interested in history , Mrs Peterson was reading teacher she was old school but taught me a lot . Hope Idaho vote these anti education, Anti-vaccines GQP cultist state legislatures and Govonors need voted out . Education is key more education you have more choices you have in life and in personal life . God Bless all Idaho teachers in these trying times hopefully everything work out for you all .
Thank you ❤️
Could it be worse than it is in Idaho ? I used to live in Colorado. The state is ranked third from the bottom of all 50 states, right after Mississippi and Alabama. Teacher pay in Colorado ranks 46th out of all 50 states. It's mostly uneducated farmers and ranchers who don't care a whit about education.
By and large, the Idaho legislature could CARE LESS about education, student learning, or the ability of teachers to pay their bills. The ONLY, I repeat, the ONLY thing the vast majority of Idaho legislators care about is KEEPING TAXES DOWN and balancing the state budget every year on the backs of state employees and educators!! There are a few who care, maybe 1-2%. They are outnumbered by the ones bought out by corporate and business interests. The entire state of Idaho Education system needs to STRIKE and WALK OUT! Hats off to Mike for what he has done in the classroom! Idaho is an EMBARRASSMENT to education!
I’m so happy that I made it out of high school 🏫. Learning what I just watched now I can safely say that self-learning would be the way to go for me. And I’m gonna feel sorry for the generation of kids.
This is world wide problem in the West. No different here in Australia. Been a teacher for 24 years and I am contemplating giving it away. Overworked, unappreciated, underpaid and burned out. Thousands of teachers in my country are quitting regardless of how long they have been teaching.
EQUITY will be the final straw for Public Education.
Agreed.
The amount of help my kid got from these teachers in meridian was the reason I pulled my kid from public school. They were leaving her behind. She was getting bullied also and they didn't listen. Bullying is different nowadays its border line the police should be involved. Either way her grades and education were so much better when we lived in another state.
yes I had this issue too. Heavily heavily bullied
My parents pulled me out too
You're right. Bullying isn't taken seriously in Schools 😒.
We are ranked 51st in education (below the District of Columbia, too) for a very good reason. We manufacture cheap labor in this state. Best way to accomplish that is by creating dirt dumb kids.
The Idaho Freedom Foundation understands. It's why they love passing on directives from billionaire financiers, above, to state legislators, on how they are to attack our educators. Some of our leaders betrayed themselves flunkies last session when they confessed they didn't know what 'critical race theory' was. They only knew some cryptic, powerful force from without, communicating via the IFF, was ordering an attack on teachers, using C.R.T. as yet another strategy to dumb down public schools. . .make them more racist if possible, too, in the name of anti-racism because that facilitates division, also, which has ever been a goal of plutocrats.
So what teachers need to understand is, if they're educating Idaho kids too much, they're failing. So stop working so hard. Relax! It's what legislative bosses, billionaire outsiders, like to see. You know they meet twice a year concocting schemes on how to hold control of America. And of course, maintaining cheap labor (which bad education allows) is high on their list, as is switching as many government revenues as possible away from public to private schools, for better serving the aristocracy.
So there's a place good teachers can go. Private schools for the rich or public schools in wealthy neighborhoods. They won't try to dumb down teachers, there.
Beautiful piece. On private schools- read about the Bishops school in La Jolla, Ca. This is where the really corrupt who fouled their nests in public Ed go to roost.
Even if cheap labor is the goal, my state was doing a horrible job of producing that. The local factories struggled to find blue collar workers who could show up on time, appropriately clothed, and not high or hung over. I personally think it’s because we were never allowed to hold students to certain expectations in the classroom, like showing up on time, or wearing appropriate clothing (whatever that was… some years a uniform, some years anything that wasn’t a bikini). The students graduated with both a lack of academic knowledge and skills, and a lack of practical knowledge and skills.
@@maryl8614 Factory turnover rates average 37% annually. That's high compared to most jobs but not with what it was over a hundred years ago when for decades at the beginning of the 20th Century, factory turnover rates ranged from 100% to 160%. I confess I only lasted three days on an assembly line and promised myself never to subject myself to such tedious work again. I've worked hard ever since. But that was a mind-numbing experience worthy of good pay and benefits if anyone is wiling and able to do it.
I think people work harder now than when I was young. I remember cashiers and restaurant workers used to chat with each other throughout the day. Their conversations could be heard in the background when I was shopping for pants or sitting at the bar of a hamburger joint. They had fun. I don't see such jovial conversations anymore when shopping. There is still more variety of experience for them than in a factory. But the rapid pace required is such that food service, grocery, and store clerks have to internalize their thoughts while working, now, much like in a factory.
Truck drivers work so hard, police have to check their time records and issue them tickets when they catch them working more than the law allows.
Everyone around me has always worked hard. What's changed is, many employees aren't being rewarded like they were in the past, despite being allowed more interaction time and fun on the job back when pay was sufficient to pay the rent or buy a home.
Henry Ford solved his turnover problem by offering a much increased wage. He said he wanted his workers to be able to afford buying one of the cars they were making. Others took advantage of the Great Depression of the '30s to retain desperate workers. Those have been their two methods of success, reward workers or create desperation so great they're afraid to quit. Guess which one they prefer?
Average school today-
25 administrators at 150 K
10 diversity czars at 150 K
10 Gender counselors at 150K
10 inclusivity supervisors at 150 K
20 teachers at 40 K
my wife has been a teacher for nearly 30 years (yes, with MS Degree). She says the problem is that the SCHOOL BOARDS AND ADMINISTRATORS refuse to have and enforce reasonable discipline policies. The solution is to elect school boards that set discipline as a top priority and monitor them and insist that they hire school administrators who understand that. IF you want to make things better for everyone, run for election to your school board. Get like minded people to run also. You CAN get elected and fix this mess. You can then see to it that policies that end the chaos are implemented and that school administrators DO THEIR JOBS. Then the teachers would be supported and backed up when they discipline disruptive students. Parents would again support and backup the teachers. Then the chaos would END. Schools would again be SANE asylums, as they were when I grew up. NEVER chaotic. No attacks on other students (ok, sure, there was the rare fight, but only between 2 students and not knock down drag outs), but NEVER an attack on a teacher. Ancient history, I guess. I graduated HS in 1964.
This could be anywhere. This was my 23 year teaching. Still three weeks left. I will think long and hard whether I will continue or hang it up this year.
On my 13th... next year might be my last.
One marker of the low status of teachers is the huge gap in pay between teachers and administrators. Teaching, in large part because it has largely to do with child care is a woman’s profession , while administration, though now it includes many more women, is male in orientation. because it deals mainly with “things”, one of which is control of “operations” including hiring a firing. Administration decides also everything: who teaches whom, what, when how(at least in theory) and most importantly where. Contact with actual students is rare, and of course never to teach themselves. Even discipline is deputized to the teacher, and he/she is judged much more on how he/she control classes than on how he/she teaches.
Teachers are professionals only in that they must deal with individual students with such diverse personalities because coming from such diverse backgrounds. Each, of course, having parents who if they care are only concerned with the needs of their children. Because of the sheer numbers, that can be only superficial but so many teachers wear themselves out, trying to establish personal relationships. This is one reason why probably half drop after about five years. The expectations so seldom match the reality, and those who stay have adjusted those expectations to meet that reality. One of these is that a teacher is going to have to have a working spouse to enable him/her to escape the genteel poverty historically related to teaching, That can be hard to endure when the Superintendent is paid hundreds of thousands a year even in relatively small districts.
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This is so true!
This environment must be tough on the students too. The next thing they will want to do is transfer taxpayer funds to private corporations 'that will do a better job' and what little is left will be for-profit - schools will be as bad as our for-profit prison systems and for-profit medicare advantage and the for-profit healthcare system.
The Finns have a better system. Their teachers are much more rigorously educated. But it helps that the Finns are such a homogeneous group, both ethnically and economically. We seem to be reverting to tribalism.
When you are told it is toxic to give a kid a 0 for turning in no work, when you are told to pass a certain % of students, when standardized test scores are trusted more than the teacher's own assessment of the kids, it is no surprise teachers feel belittled and mistrusted by their bosses. Add in the verbal and physical abuse from wild kids who know they have carte blanche to do whatever they want without any punishment for it - it is a terrible mess and can hardly be called a "system" of education.
If you have a teacher shortage, and you have teacher’s still leaving, cause a lot of teachers will try to get bye because they want to teach, they want to educate. The administrators must surely realise we have a problem here, we have to fix this, but of course politics will get in the way, either by shrinking education budgets, or holding teacher’s pay expectations hostage to unrealistic outcomes or restrictive curriculum content…
With mainly women in daycares and schools, it becomes super caddy and toxic to be in
Catty- it’s not golf.
Kitty can scratch!🤣
@@jenniferhill9924 ok fine then that’s what I was hitting at
Toxic. Duh!
Even the students are getting as cruel as the parents, regardless the state
And other students would rather film a film then help stop it
A timely movie to be redone would be Teachers, with Nick Nolte and Ralph Macchio and a young Laura Dern.
I can sum it up in one sentence..."It's all politics, very little education."
Wow a girl out of nurse school makes more than he will when he retires. Tells you what you need to know.
In the recent NAEP results, Idaho 8th graders were T-2 in math and T-4 in Reading. Amazing bang for $.
100,000 per year is middle class? When you're a teacher in America it's filthy 🤑 rich!
Educators ARE in CRISIS--Thanks Mike! 208 has increased, and more are leaving!
Aren't most of those Idaho governors related to that farmer who paid Napoleon in eggs?
They're what came out of the eggs.
It is also the paperwork and the responsibility of teachers that they have. If you know about the liability and laws the teachers have and when there’s no sped teacher or sped teacher aide it’s harder. Those those kids don’t have someone either 1 to 1 or something and you have to deal like student behavior and students tantrum etc.
It's just wonderful what "man does to man " !! And that's all this is ! I will leave out the expletive's.
May I ask which field or what jobs can an unemployed teacher do please?
That depends on your subject
Sad
kids aren’t stupid, they know how little teachers are paid and how stressed they are. Why would they take out a bunch of loans to become like them? And stop saying it’s the funding. There is more money being poured into education then ever before. If money was the deciding factor, then teaching should be better than ever right now but it’s not. Education needs a complete systemic overhaul before things will improve.
Australia is following lock step
Toxic for sure, the unions don't help. Left the school district for charter school and the environment is way better. Pay still sucks though.
You just jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. With no regulations, charter schools can and DO underpay and overwork teachers, all while undermining the school districts. Frankly, charter organizations are more like organized crime syndicates than educational institutions.
Exactly...I talk about sad story now online
Idaho and 49 other states.
Explain to me why she is so involved in their personal lives that she knows their home situations. Frankly that is inappropriate and she should just be focusing on the coursework and be behavior
Who effectively created many of these conditions they are now running from? Yes, teachers.
More bias from Chanel 7, "unfounded claims of teaching CRT". Come on. Channel 7 is better than this.
Ohio isn’t any better
This is all being done on purpose... if I was a parent i would just home school...
It’s classroom size tell the truth you provide great lip service like the ones you complain about.
It would be great if you'd adhear to the rules of capitalization and punctuation so that your thought could be articulated in a manner which can be understood.
@@jenniferhill9924 ADHERE.
what we need is maybe a dozen people "fixing" things.... not endless numbers of them. it's all too scattered just like everything else
Walmart is hiring
Our "progressive" society won't allow teaching as a profession anymore.
Once again KTVB feels it must editorialize in its news report with built-in biased statements such as "unfounded accusation of teaching critical race theory in schools". Really, did you have to add the "unfounded"? That makes your statement a biased opinion if not an inaccuracy.
I don't blame her , the schools have many issues , the information that students learn is mainly rubbish , I wouldn't be a teacher , nor a student ,
thank the Teachers Union, they are a large part of this problem.
Uh... How so? They are literally the only people even attempting to take the teachers into consideration.
@@vladislavdracula1763 they are pushing the politics that is harming teachers.
@@SoloRenegade Such as...?
Thanks trump
It was Bush. Then Obama.
LOFL! I grew up in the 80s and I can't remember a single teacher I had. The school system back then as it is now is as a babysitter. I really wish I didn't have to spend 12 years in public school but that is what the systems said I needed. I had enough knowledge by the time I was 14 to go to college and it wasn't because of what I learned in school. It was what I learned from my family, at the jobs I worked and what I taught myself. School was waste of time and most of the people working in the school district I attended were losers (teachers and admins), except for the hard-working custodians, maintenance and kitchen staff. The rest of them were just cruising through life on the government dole, no matter how good or bad they were - with most less than worthless.
Same situation. I nearly failed out of high school but four years later graduated University at the top of my class. I had gone from a private elementary school to a public high school and the shock nearly killed me.
You would not have been able to write that anti-intellectual screed without the instruction of your elementary school English teachers.
Here we go again "unfounded" accusations. The accusations are not unfounded. Stop editorializing channel 7.
Partisan hit Job.
As a nurse, I did not get 3 months of every year, I worked days, nights, weekends, almost every holiday. I have no pension. Teachers can tell us they do not get paid adequately and perhaps they do not, but I see them taking every holiday of the year off and then some. So getting paid 60,000 for 9 months of work with a very generous holiday and paid time off is not too shabby. Am I wrong?.
Yes, you are wrong.
Yes, you are. Spoken like someone who obviously hasn’t a clue what teachers and teaching is all about.
Very wrong!!!
I get paid for 180 days a year, as do most teachers. End of story.
Yes, you are. All the extra hours we work every single week after and before teaching our students definitely compensate the time we get off during summer. We also start preparing 2 weeks ahead before school starts again. 60,000? Not in Utah or Idaho…