Rusted Frame Repair POR 15 Step by Step Paint Over Rust on Jeep Wrangler
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- POR 15 Rusted Frame Repair Step by Step Over Rust on Jeep Wrangler
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Excellent vid -clear, informative and very well done. Many thanks, my Jeep brother.Gotta POR15 my 01. Been lucky that I don't have the rot so far, and I want to keep it that way for as long as possible.
This is great. I have to do something similar to my 1988 Mustang soon. Thanks for sharing the process with helpful instruction!
I recently used Rust Oleum Rust Reformer on the frame of my Wrangler TJ and a few months ago on the frame of my OBS Ford F-250. So far, so good and time will tell. I've used Chassis Saver, which is similar to POR 15 on my 01 Silverado and it didn't take very long before rust was beginning to reappear. This was after a lot of prep work. I hope that your experience with POR 15 went well. I know that it's like getting a temporary tattoo once you get it on you unless you take it off almost immediately.
Thank you for this in depth restoration process. I just bought a used vehicle which came to Texas from Minnesota. I have never seen anything like this 2007 vehicles undercarriage ! I was scared that I made a mistake with the purchase but it seems that I can stop the spreading and replace the rotted parts with parts from eBay.
I love to watch people take care of their vintage TJs. They are the last of the legacy, "Universal," Jeeps. Every year, in autumn, I paint the frame with rustoleum. Then in spring, I scrape, sand, prime, and paint the frame with Rustoleum again. However, you showed me an easy way to get POR 15 with your link. This year, the autumn painting has already been done. But next spring, I will scrape, sand, and then use POR 15 instead of the traditional Restoleum I have been using for the last 23 years on my beloved TJ.
Thanks for the walkthrough! About to do my wife's 2013 GX460 frame that spent too much time in the midwest!
Doing my second truck in 3 years with this. It’s prep-intensive and messy but I’ve been happy with it. I try to hose the undercarriage off after a snowstorm just to keep the salt off and extend the life of the coating. One thing I’m not a fan of is that they recommend a topcoat, which requires scuffing the shine off the POR-15. Between wire brushing, degreasing, acid, 2 coats of POR, that makes 7 passes front to back...I think a nice 2k spray paint would be easier and just as durable....then coat with fluidfilm.
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Been using POR15 since 1999. Used it on 3 cars I restored as well as the TJ I own now. Did the underside and took everything out of the tub and did the inside 2 days after I got it. I'n in CT where rust is king and haven't seen any rust issues at all. BUT...prep is critical. If you do not do the prep right and I mean exactly right, POR15 won't last more than a few years. Just follow the instructions on the prep work. I swear by this stuff. By the way, it has the consistency of water which means a little goes a loooong way. Longer than you will believe. And use gloves because it takes 7 days for it to wear off your skin and that's after scrubbing your skin raw.
I second what you've said! I used a few gallons to prep the entire floor of my school bus RV conversion. Haven't had an issue ever since. And yeah, you don't wanna go to work with POR15 stuff in your hands...
Check out the RV on IG if you're curious @ADVENTURELANDERS
Thank you for info
I'm also in CT. Want a job doing this on my VW Bus. LOL. Seriously though, I dread it, but getting it on Wed. from Texas and the first thing I want to do is For 15 the underside. Not happy about all the fumes from all this stuff but it's worth it.
Great video, thanks for the insights... it's really a shame these car/truck companies won't spend $50 to do it properly before the trucks are assembled. You spend $50k plus on a truck and have to deal with all the BS rust issues.
Good video, and I like the quality and the music. God Bless
Excellent tutorial. I plan on doing this in the spring on my Jeep, thanks for the great guide!
Great video.. I’m gonna do this on my Jeep.. I’m going one step further and gonna spray the inside of frame too.. you had to see the crap that came out of frame when I stuck a hose in their
Thanks for the video.
Great video! I don’t own a jeep, but will definitely help with my car!
Great video, and well informed thank you. 🇺🇸
In 2006 I bought a Wrangler and POR15'd the whole tub inside and under as well as the frame. Sold it 2 years ago, it was in CT on the shore where they salt the roads. 12 years and no rust thru the POR-15. Used it on 3 restores I did as well over existing rust and it stopped rust from advancing. You have to do the prep work, no cutting corners. And you must wear gloves when applying it because it goes on water thin and takes 7 days of scrubbing to get off your skin. Been using it since 2005 and it just works. Oh, if you don't get the heavy flakes off and paint over them they will chip off and the rust will continue there. And, since it goes on extremely thin, a little goes a long way. I think I used 1.5 pints to do the Wrangler.
2 coat?
Great video, thanks for sharing
That's a high class looking jack you have there
Great video! Thank you
I've been using por-15 for many years. Great stuff. I've never used any of their prep stuff though. Get the worst of the rust off, wash, let dry. I use a couple coats of rust converter first then thorough dry then 2 - 3 coats of por-15. When por-15 has cured for at least a day, I top off with a couple coats of Rustoleum - especially if it's going to be exposed to sunlight. Holds up very well. Every couple years I clean it up and repeat por-15 and Rustoleum. Don't want to give the road salt a chance to start eating away at it again.
if the original por is still intact,more por is a waste of time and money, this stuff needs rust or rough surfaces to cling to effectively
What rust converter do you use?
Thanks for the walk through. Well done video. Guess I know what I’m doing this weekend. Hope I can still fit in a mtn bike ride or hike ;) btw you got yourself a new subscriber
Great video thanks mate. I just got a brand new JKU that had been sitting on the lot for over a year, unsold. A week after buying it I noticed a disgusting amount of corrosion underneath. It had 30 miles on the ODO. Submitted a claim to Chrysler and they couldn't give a shit. So I guess I'm going to have to do the rust mitigation myself. Thanks for the video, I was wondering about POR-15 application and net result. Oh yeah, new subscriber.
Great video!
Great video thanks
I hate rust on my 4x4 and I like hiking. Subscribed!
used this on my 2007 h3. needed 3 quarts and still don't if i got the por everywhere but i figure that is better than doing nothing. will give an update on how it holds up.
Great job .
If you want to buy the bigger cans you can use Saran wrap and place the lid back on and it will open back up when you want to use it again.
How long can it be stored.
@@danw5414 that method does not work, unless you get the lid back on and clamp it shut air tight.
use a nail, punch two holes, for storage simply put screws in the holes, preferably roofing screws. Next time you want to use it, punch two new holes, repeat as nessesary
good job
I have heard a lot of myths about POR 15. I've ignored them all. I have replacement panels for my XJ (rockers and front and rear floor pans from C2C) I prepped them (bare metal) and sprayed them with POR 15. They came out amazing, dried quick, no problems. I am also going to prep and spray the under side of remaining floor material as well as inside of floors before using panel adhesive to glue in new floor pans. I'll finish up with seam sealer and undercoat to complete the "repair". If you spray POR 15, do it in well ventilated area and use all proper protection. The gun cleans up with lacquer thinner. Also, it you properly clean the top of the can, you can just replace the lid like any paint and POR 15 will keep for quite a while.
great video
Nice vid! Should i be concerned if i got metal prep on parts i am not coating? (paint, shocks, springs, diff cover, etc)
Hello, nice vid. well prep. you didn't do the other side of the frame ? just the outer side ? I have a jeep 1997 and I think I would do all over the frame, the inside frame seem rusty too, I would probaly treat it with GS1000.
People laugh when I say it but I plan to make a show truck out of my s10 zr2. Its very rusted out a f needs alot of work but a very good step in the right direction would be to sand down my frame, all cross members, torsion bars, and ect to the bare metal and paint this por 15 on all of it, inside and out. Looking forward to doing this as winters soon to be coming
Nice tutorial , when I first saw your like new Jeep I thought what do you need that por 15 for....….then I saw the frame!!!! ……...
Dont forget to do the inside of the channel frame , thats where the rust starts ! Eastwood sells a spray can with a 24 in. spray hose to spray inside of channel ...... Put a piece of light plastic on top can and below the lid to re seal the can of por-15 , allows you to re-open the can .
Thanks for the video. I'm getting a 76 VW Bus Camper on Wed. When you spray on the degreaser and metal aching spray is it ok for it to get on the various brake lines, hoses, rubber and other materials under the vehicle. Will it damage those?. Thanks.
It is truly the job from hell if you do it right especially when you get underneath. I have a system but use different products (Same type of main product POR15) but I also top coat it. Tried this out on a rusty trailer early last year and so far it still looks like new. It will kill a week vacation and possibly more. Then it's time to get inside the frame with fluid film.
You know what requires zero prep and works perfect? Fluid film. Oil soaked metal cannot rust. It stops rusty metal dead, too. If you coat the frame inside and out annually, you will never produce any rust, even in the salt belt. Next new Jeep you get do it asap and keep on it. I have a 31 year old 88 Toyota truck with zero frame rust. Seen over 20 salted road winters.
100% correct.
@@stephenyoutubin4476 where do you purchase that Fluid Film and who do you go to to put it on
@@SevenDeuce072 www.amazon.com/Inhibitor-Prevention-Corrosion-Undercoating-Protection/dp/B004NDADI4/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=fluid+film&qid=1601005271&sr=8-6
Fluid film you have to keep applying por15 is for life just get all chunks off and prep good.
I had to get rid of my jeep because it was so rusty I got a dodge now and painted the frame with this works well so far
You seem not satisfied enough with the product
Cool video only I didn't see and you didn't mention treating the other, tough to reach, side of the frame AND you will still have to treat the inside of the frame with some lanolin based material or it can still rust from the inside out.
Can you give me any info on the portion of the frame you had replaced? The cost and who you had do it?
APPRECIATE IT BROBRO!
heres a good idea for new jeep owners fill the frame with foam insulation and if you plan on running wires in frame run a peice of garden hose for wires then fill it
That is a great idea, never thought of that
Have you had good results with that level of rust removal? Is so great but that pisses me off because I wire wheeled it until I saw good steel.
I used por in the rocker panels of my Minivan. A winter later, I had to redo it
Why is that?
Good stuff
I just heard about this stuff from a friend that used it on his jeep, pretty awesome stuff. I'm going to use it on my jeep as well but I think I will coat mine with flex seal afterwards to prevent rock chips from knocking it off. I've seen a lot of stuff about rusting jeep frames. Doesn't anybody wash their vehicles underneath anymore,?I do whenever I've driven on salt or gone mudding. Here is another tip for drying after you have washed the frame area to apply POR, use a leaf blower if you have one.
Leaf blower is such a great idea!
Jeep frames rot from the inside out where water and junk accumulate.
the one in this video is pretty rusty on the outside
Use fluid film. Moisture will build up underneath the flex seal most likely. Por15 and fluid film.
did you make a video on welding your frame?
Does all the old paint have to be removed before using those products or is it okay to remove paint only where there's rust?
Awesome tutorial! How much would you think I would need to cover the whole frame and diffs on a JK two door with two coatings?
1 quart
@@ThisIsSolution your gonna have a lot left with a quart. I also did the inside of my Wrangler tub at the same time. Took out the seats, carpet, and did up about 3 inches on the walls so not just the floors. I went thru a few rivers and with the top off, rain would sit so I wanted to do it. It goes on even thinner than stain so a little goes a long way. The prep work is key to getting good adhesion, it soaks in. Sorry, just saw you said 2 coats...quart will work. But I've done 3 cars and the Jeep and you won't need 2 coats. Remember to coat the steering knuckle and gas tank if you go off-road.
@@ronmiller7916 bro.... just sell your jeep, best investment ive ever made.
2 years later lolololol
Thanks for posting and making the video. I personally never understood the idea behind a rust-proofing product that has instructions to rinse off the part with water before application. Defies the purpose of the whole rust fighting process.
I think i found the next project for my TJ. If you are still monitoring your channel, it looks like you only painted 3 of the 4 exterior sides of the frame. Were you able to paint all 4?
You did an excellent job of explaining, showing, and instructing how to use this product. Bravo! I have a new frame purchased from a salvage yard that will replace the rusted one on my Toyota Tundra. Since it had a poor undercoating job done by the prior owner and rusted out and rotted it was not covered under the recall. The frame I bought is in really good shape being a recent replacement frame and at 400 bucks a real bargain. Some places have started to flake off the black from rust infiltration just like your frame ( inside the middle of the side rails ) and some minor surface rust around the engine cradle and mounts. After watching your video I am confident I can get this new frame pristine in no time! My one question is do I treat the black parts of my new frame that are not showing rust or leave them? If I do treat them now, just use the paint after degreaser or should I do the entire 3 step process? I live in Maine and frames have a tough life. Thank you!
Northern Maine I have a 97 tj, and I live in Chicago. I'd say most certainly treat those areas that don't show rust YET! Think of it as prevention. Rust is inevitable, so if you can try to get ahead of it, go for it.
Just be glad you don't have a 3rd generation 4Runner. How Toyota avoided including these in the frame recall (same frame, same material) is beyond me. I bought an un-driveable one and made it driveable, stable, and safe by replacing large chunks of rot with fresh metal, and I'm about to POR15 the whole thing.
@@innercityprepper Toyota got cheap and fucked a lot of people over with this shit...my ford company work Trucks frame is in better shape than my Tacoma's. ..they sacrificed quality after the mid 90s
@@trevrev2249
The frame might be better on the Ford but the engine and transmission will fail looooong before the Toyota!
What about coating the other side of the frame?
I have a 2013 corolla with 70k miles on it. Rust underneath car on chassis also ring next to rotor both very rusted. Been told too soon usually 20 yr old cars. a good friend saw pics told me go buy a new car. I'm worried what could happen if left as is. I'll get a quote $$ to fix
You need to coat the inside frame rail for full rust protection. Por15 works well. I prefer an oil spray every fall. Less work an better coverage.
what oil spray do you use?
More dirt
@@thelasttaarakian I'll take more dirt over rust anyday.
I have a 1995 Toyota 4Runner and I've been using cosmoline forever since new and I have no rust under the truck. Dirt yes BUT no rust
Bollox. Back in the days we'd just remove the unsound rust , clean and apply por15. Most important part was the fact that por15 breaks down with uv light. Hence we'd paint over it.
Does por 15 bond to painted area of the frame?
sandblow paint protect done
Great video! What are your thoughts on over-coating the POR15 since it doesn't "like" UV light? I understand that your frame/under-carriage doesn't see a lot of direct sunlight.
Top coat is a must, you want to protect the rust sealer from chips and scratches as well as uv damage. Por 15 top coat is great but in this situation a good undercoat product would be good too.
Don't forget that it needs to be painted where ever it's exposed to uv.
Nice Chrysler
I used the métal prep on my floor in the fall. Didn't rinse it. My floor pan is beginning to look like cheese cloth
after a year how did it hold up?
My toyota frame only has little surface rust on the welds, so I wire wheel it and looks pretty good metal no rust. I was thinking to put POR 15 on the welds and then put rubberized undercoat all over. What do you think?
Rubberized will seal the condensation in allowing it to rust from underneath. I'm buying a FJ Cruiser with a lot of flake but no rust through and some tiny areas of bubbling paint on the body. Going to grind it down, neutralize it and fluid film the living snot out of it. It's not going to a car show.
This will be all for nothing if you dont clean out inside the frame and coat it too, these frames rot from the inside out due to there being no drain holes. Drill some drain holes clean it out and coat the inside as well
@@ninenights9910 Make sure you have drain holes on the bottom of the frame, then what you can do is take a garden hose and flush it out. After that gets done take your finger and feel inside of the frame on the bottom. If you notice you feel potato chips, those are rust flakes. Get an extendable magnet from the auto store and start pulling the flakes out. this will take some time. Flush the frame with the garden hose again and repeat this process. Once you don't feel any more flakes and you aren't getting much out with the extendable magnet then I would coat the inside of the frame with Eastwood internal frame coating. Make sure the inside of the frame is dry, i would wait a couple days, then do it. POR-15 is some nasty good stuff, but it's only as good as the surface it's going on. So do the prep work! A lot of times guys just scuff the surface, clean it up and slap it on, you really need to ensure all the weak rust flakes come off, or else it's pretty much useless.
How would you go about applying it on the inside of the frame?
Mojo Studios they make hosed with 360 degree nozzles. Also supplied by Eastwood.
@@Firstreserve91 this is what I've been looking to do with my frame. Thank you.
Angel Garcia Did it work well?
Can you use POR-15 on rocker panels and cab corners?
Yes, but you would have to really spray them down good with the metal etch product that POR offers. If they aren’t rusty though I would just recommend getting rhino liner and using that to coat them
please update us thank you
I would think being so thin you could put in a spray bottle. I have to do it and I think I will try it
POR 15 is good but oil works just as good. I coat my frame and get it inside the frame also. Even though you coat the outside your frame will also rust from the inside out. What's nice about oil is it spreads, place a drop on a piece of steel and let it sit overnight and you'll see how it spreads. Used motor oil works great for coating and it's free....POR 15 is expensive.
POR 15 does give the benefit though of creating a nice hardened shell that will last for years whereas oil wears off quick, especially in the winter.
por on the outside- oil on the inside and outside once the por is fully cured
If it's already rusty oil does nothing . Por15 makes the metal hard again if applied correctly.
I'm assuming the degreaser is nasty to the face...but is it okay to hose off? Just concerned about it getting into the storm sewer?
So this was 2 years ago, how's it holding up??
Put a thin sheet of plastic such as a shopping bag under the lid when sealing the can if you want to reseal
Nice..but aren't you worried about that body rust too along the frame?
Can we get any update video plz 2 years later,por is good but corroseal i find is best its what the us marine use so its what i use ,also dont washthe frame with water u just introduce more corrosive every time...
i do por 15 then chassis saver
I guess I'm impressed that you've painted it and showed how it looks wet? how about dry?
He did he showed the other side
Don't you want to dilute the mettle prep with water first?
After it's dry and done your not finished. Need to fluid film it Couple days later. These hard coats like por15 over time driving in winter will rust again (soon) from under the paint it will start flaking from rust. You need to still fluid film it or NHOU. Soft coat seals it from moisture and oxygen
What is your impression or level of satisfaction of the por15 after 5years ?
What about the inside of the frame that rusts too
hows it holding up
Nice job , it would be great if the automobile manufacturers would think a little about the rust issues throughout the vehicles life and maybe offer some type extra protection for the underbody that they could purchase at the time of new car sale ,they could make a little extra money and the customer would get a few more years added to the life of there vehicle ?
It's been 3 yrs,how did it hold up???
so what is the 5 year update?
Use WBOR, wire brush over paint
Where you buy the material ???
I’m curious, how did it hold up six years later?
So once you put the second coat on, and everything cures. Can you use a rubberized coating on to so that it doesn't get chipped and start rusting again as easy?
They do recommend that you put some type of coating over the POR-15 because it is not UV resistant (the sun will break it down eventually). But I would stray away from any type of rubberized under coating. (If you wanna know why I suggest that search up South Main Auto Repair and watch his video on why rubberized coatings are horrible). What I would suggest though for top coat is POR-15 topcoat which is specifically made for that purpose, or simply get some black paint and use that.
Lets see how it holds up after 3 years. Post follow up
My 99 Wranglers frame rusted right were yours did plus were the belly pan attaches on both sides it was not savable. Chrysler did a crappy job with theses frames, the frame should last longer than the body panels.
i spray olie in tubes if there is rust.....it is stopped becouse the oil pennetrates in the rust
Wish I had all the tools to do this
I wish I had the drive and motivation to do my 2000 GMC Sierra which I bought new and I still have it.
Oh brother does it need that product of yours.
Keith Kuhn
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Only problem is Jeep frames rust from the inside out, so while using POR15 is a goood idea, if you don’t clean out and coat the inside of your frame with a product like Eastwood Internal Frame coating, your still gonna have a problem. Good video tho
Just did my frames with Eastwood internal frame yesterday. Have a 2018 and dont want my shit looking like this in a few years. I need to do some more preventive measures though. I see his body was rusting also. Not good
Don’t forget to drill drain holes near the control arm mounts they rot due to water getting in and not being able to escape
So true
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Surely at 5 years since the application, it's all peeled off by now right?
Did you drive it in between the first and second coat or did you leave it be?
No I did both coats before driving it.