Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14) Some Bible believers may shrug off Paul’s command, contending this only represented his opinion or the norms of his 1st century culture. However, please notice that this command was not rooted in Paul’s culture; rather, the inspired reason sprang from the order established by two universal facts: the creation and the fall of man! The God-defined roles of men and women are therefore transcendent and apply to all of Adam and Eve’s descendants as far as the consequences of Adam and Eve’s sin have spread (Genesis 3:16, 20). Furthermore, Paul gave similar instruction to the Corinthian women to not speak out during the assembly: Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. (1 Corinthians 14:34-37) Paul equates these statements to the “commandments of God” which all spiritual people are to “acknowledge” (1 Corinthians 14:37). Likewise, the qualifications of both elders and deacons restrict the offices to that of men (1 Timothy 3:1-12; Titus 1:5-9). How can we dismiss these commands without questioning Paul’s apostleship, doubting the inerrancy of Scripture, and rebelling against God, since they proceeded by inspiration from Him and are preserved by Him (1 Peter 1:23-35)? If one is unwilling to trust Paul on these topics, how can he trust what Paul says about heaven, the resurrection, justification, grace, faith, or any other topic without becoming a “judge of the Law” (James 4:11-12)? Some may ask, “Does the woman’s absence from public leadership reduce her impact?” No, men and women are interdependent (1 Corinthians 11:8-12). Mothers shape generations to come (Acts 16:1-2; 2 Timothy 1:5). Older women are to teach younger women (Titus 2:3-5). And, all women can fill a cold void with a warmth, kindness, and love through their tenderness, charity, and good works that cannot otherwise be replaced (Acts 9:36-41; Proverbs 31:10-30). Would you like to be part of a sanctified people, whose moral, spiritual, and doctrinal beliefs are anchored in the rock of God’s Word? The opinions of men and institutions shift with the changing pressures of our day, but as for us, “We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29). Will you build your life on God’s firm foundation with us (Matthew 7:21-29)?
the biggest disunion in the home is the man as well as in the church for they don't know how to rule. The bible says he that ruleth over men must be just and rule in the fear of the Lord. So many rule in the flesh!! ruling in the flesh is going by your own thoughts and not led by the Holy Ghost.
Not saying the bible doesnt say that but the word of God does say, He shall pour out his spirit upon his Sons and his Daughters (all flesh). Lesson was taught well I agree, but why say a woman cant speak for Christ, I didnt get that. Maybe I may have missed something he said but I gave my life to Christ by hearing a word from a woman.
@@LALady1 there are very good reasons for women to not be in a leadership role. God created women and men very differently. He knows our strengths and weaknesses.
Lots of hermeneutics and archeology goes into this, and most of the egalitarians lean hard on the context of heresy that tends to be addressed in all the Pauline epistles. Often what's being discussed is thought to be a local thing, often specifically worded to the kind of heresy present in the congregation in question. It's mostly above my knowledge (I'm not a scholar on heresy at all, but mostly it was stuff where women were overly domineering towards men) but definitely worth looking into if you want to see an egalitarian argument made. Of course there's the proof-text of Phoebe the female deacon, but definitely it needs more than a single proof-text to be accepted!
I agree. The guy is wrong about demons not possessing people. In fact, his own scripture quotation refuted his argument. AFTER JESUS, HIS DISCIPLES WERE TOLD TO CAST OUT DEMONS.
Exactly...to give all this previous truths then turn around and be so easily stumped? Reminds me of what Jesus said, but the reverse...swallowing a camel then turns around and choke to death on a gnat.
That depends on your theology and doctrine. Let's say that you are from a Pentecostal/charismatic doctrine, you will definitely disagree with him because that is how you are taught. Whereas other denominations may agree with him because of the teaching they sit under.I wonder when you make a statement that says "...soooo not true" where did you study theology? Are you a scholar of the Word?Now, I'm not saying that I agree with him either. I must do further study into what he has said and reason from Scripture my doctrine on this issue. I guess I'm playing both sides here to give a balance perspective but....
You will never hear a woman preacher read these verses in church. IF anyone can't teach from the whole bible without skipping over certain scriptures, then GOD has not called them in that field.
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, nor slave neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus", wrote the Apostle Paul in his New Testament epistle to the Galatians.
Holland Jones he didn’t say that Christ destroyed it he said we are not subject to the law, which we are not, Jesus fulfilled it, meaning Jesus is the law specially to us gentiles ( Israelites in spirit) our only command from the law is not to eat blood or drown animal meat
The Ten Commandments, which included Sabbath keeping, was done away with. (Romans 7:4-6) “Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another - to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.” Verse 7 reveals the law he was referring to was the Law of Moses. “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, You shall not covet.” ( Exodus 20:17) “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
No THE LORD GIVES WISDOM TO ALL. ASK HIM FOR WISDOM.THE LORD IS MAKES THE RULES LAWS AND ETC. WHATEVER THE LORD SAYS I AM GOING TO BE OBEIDANT. HE USES WOMEN LIKE TO BE A PROPHETESS AND ETC BUT NOT TO PREACH OR BE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD WHEN YOU HAVE A HUSBAND THERE.
Thanks for sharing, I always thought it and was taught this as a child. But every thing is out of order on this earth except the word of God. Thanks for sharing and caring.
There is not one single example of a woman leading worship in the Bible. I believe the Bible is very clear that a woman should not be in a position of authority over men. If a woman serves in any role in the worship she would be placing herself in a position of authority over any man present.
I think we men feel greatly embarrassed if our women just keep talking in church and disturb the meetings. Women tend to voice their opinions in any occasions, because they have a need to be heard. However, Paul talked about the order, an order that have been instituted for thousands of years, and it would be bad if that is broken. That's why he said, 'women should be silent....according to the Law. In 1 Timothy 2:12, Paul said, 'I do not permit a woman to teach.....' Paul said 'I'. My question is when does Paul's command become the Lord's command? But regarding 1 Corinthians 7:6-16, regarding being single, he said that very clearly that it was his charge and not Lord's command on that issue. So, he said, '...I wish...I say...I give this charge....I...I....' It (it's I, not the Lord's) is not mentioned in 1 Timothy. But does Paul's 'I' equal Lord's command? Please let me know.
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: Mark 4:11 KJV
Like myself, I am a single mother. I refer to the Bible for my answers. I do not believe in Women Pastors at all b/c i have been convicted of this in my life. If there is not a man pastor of the church i attend then i do no go to that particular church. Period.
Wrong! Demons are still present and overtake people's bodies. Careful on your teachings, sonny.In fact, you might want to call upon Jesus to cast out the demon within you. just to be certain that this not where the fault lies within your understanding.
@Bad StarWolf Not 100% correct, demons are very prevalent in the thought processes of many a people, and the more act on their subliminal suggestions in your decision making the stronger their hold over you becomes.
I was telling a pastor what to do, and same night I heard the Holy spirit say 3 times" I do not allow a woman to have authority over a man." When I woke up, I saw it was Jezebel spirit oppressing me. I repented, fasted, resisted, both Jezebel and Leviathan spirit left me. Job 41:1Can you draw out Leviathan with a hook? Job 41:34 He beholds every high thing; He is king over all the children of pride. Humble yourself before God. Be submissive to God's word.
Demons do exist an they still do posses people that let them self open to the demons. The more evil you do the closer you become to satan and his angels.
Regardless of what American or the world allows; the word of God is the authority, first and last word. "Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Eph 5. What is acceptable to the Lord? Our opinions and gossip are absolutely not acceptable. Only obedience to the "Word of God". The word of God instructs, and corrects so those that don't obey the "Word of God" are disobedient worldly sinners kicking against the pricks. "Let the women keep silent" is a commandment not a suggestion. Amen
I would respectfully disagree with the law of Moses being the Old Law. It's still very much intact in fact Jesus Christ said if you love me you will keep my Commandments. In fact many times he reinforced his father's laws
What I'm hearing, rather not hearing from these preachers is the word USURP! but in these so called new translated bibles have it as women are not to have authority over the man, oppose to usurp authority over the man. The difference is the word Usurp means to seize and hold a position, office or power to use without authority by force and without legal right. See how these NLT. takes away from the scriptures. The 13th and 14th verse of 1Timothy 2:12 explains why. The women Pastors, Bishops, preachers, Evangelists, Elders, are transgressing the word of God by doing this. They even have women Apostles now; and you can't tell them that God did not call them to preach, get ready for a big argument.
In Jesus there is no male nor female in the Spirit. We are all one in the Spirir. Not ye that speak but the Spirit that speakers in you. It is only in the natural ( as order is that man should rule over the woman. As he is led by God. In the Spirit anyone can obey God in the church. Flesh is flesh Spirit is Spirit. Read your Bible. In the flesh there’s a difference! Not in the Spirit
women should not be a pastor or preacher over the men according to the scripture of Bible ..and Jesus doesn't chose women to be a disciple or preacher that is very clear .
That is not clear Jesus said go into all the Earth n preach, in that audience there were women and children. Jesus did not say but only you men no he said go ye into all the world n preach the word. These are Paul's words n he could be referring to woman asking questions during the sermon or talking about a brunch you don't know for sure look how the devil used God's word against JESUS knowing full well he is the son God. Be not deceived for Jesus said even the elect would be. Remember Mary n others were right by his side. The devil will use any method not to let the word of God spread.
Did you read all of chapter 14 or are you taking verses 34 and 35 out of context. There are 39 verses in this chapter and you take the one who may have been added later to this letter and were never written by Paul. The reason for that is that they contradict everything Paul wrote before and even after. Here are the verses 26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two-or at the most three-should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace-as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people. 34 Women[f] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[g] 36 Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by the Spirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. 38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.[h] 39 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way. Can you see the contradiction? So which one are correct? I will go with all of them except 34 and 35. Thy do not belong there. Also if you have done your research tell me what law did the writer talk about and were is it written that it is shameful for a women to speak in the church. Also do you conduct your assembly of believers or church as Paul instructed in this chapter?
I agree that the passage is about order. If the translation is correct, it seems he is talking about talking while a sermon is being conducted. Certainly there would be a time for discussion after. Why would anybody present keep silent if they need clarification, whether it be a man , woman or a child?
@@lizreyes6577 Aw Paul writes, if a woman has a question, let her ask her husband at home because it is shameful for a woman to speak in the assembly (church)
@@lizreyes6577 Not teaching. Helping him. Many women served Paul and the churches but he doesn't write about then teaching. I think you are pulling that from your imagination
Do not the Holy Spirit moves "men ,women, and children of the Most high, to speak? Do not Men, women, and children of all ages and races , nations and tongues, walk in the Water behind Christ and rose up out the water after Christ? Can not a women testify, the things the Lord has done for her? Isnt her womb, the womb blessed with the babies of the Lord? Isnt she giving birth to the Kings, Queens, Prophets and sons of God? Why not She speaks when Christ swore by his own name, all he has done was for his Bride to come....? Did not John speak about the Elected lady of Truth and everyone who ever loves truth, loves her and her Children? Didn't the lord speak on a Queen during the end times, that is wiser than Solomon? Is the New City adorn like a Bride? A woman shouldn't be an old loud mouth , babbling bs ...but if that women is prasing the Lord, where is her fault.......??????? God delights in women and all people praising his name. .Because He is worthy.....A woman , drunk , talking nasty, under her clothes, no self respect, she should keep quiet.....but a daughter of the lord, who knows her Father is different....Its all about the Lord and his forgiveness....I am a woman and on the Lord, I will testify...
When there was division at the church at Philippi, Paul appealed to two leading and influential women, Euodia and Syntyche, to help resolve the schism. -- Bible See, Philippians 4:2-3.
This is an offensive topic. Many pastors are too chicken to bring this up. The spirit of jezebel aka feminism has infiltrated the church a long time ago but today with 3rd wave feminism having a tougher more evil stand, things are worse. Many if not most of these feminist women say: men are not men masculine enough today." I say: "that's not an excuse to exercise authority over the man in the church and home." Women pastoring churches is not biblical and there's not one verse in the bible talking about women leading congregations. Yes women have done amazing things in the Bible, I will admit that. but preaching in churches is not a woman's role, that's a. Man's role.
The group of books that we call the holy bible has been copied, revised, edited over and over and over again. We don't know what Peter, Paul, Mark, Luke actually wrote or if they actually wrote the books that bear their name. With every edit, revision, copy there was an agenda. Why should any of us preach these minor subjects when there are major issues in our churches, cities, states, countries, the world!!!!
2 TIM 2:15 , that means you are going to have to know what the original translation says. the issue here is if you believe that allll! scripture is given by the inspiration of GOD and is profitable not unprofitable for doctrine for reproof ,for correction for instruction in righteousness. Righteouness was imputed unto Abram because he believed and trusted in God. All man needs to do is be obedient to what God has inspired men to write.
Brah I have help cast out a devil, you got it wrong on that. I was with you about the women but you error from scriptures. You need to go get some faith.
The Apostle Paul wrote "there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." --Bible See the epistle of Galatians.
As a “church of Christ” member… I know we always use passages for us to stand out .. away from other church organizations. This is a typical explanation. If you’re going to explain something as heated as this subject you must break it down by context not (topical explanations) I’m a member of the church and I was confused by this.
This Brother in the Lord speaks the truth for the scriptures do teach these truths and even More so 1 Timothy 3:1-7 3 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Therefore an overseer[a] must be above reproach, the husband of one wife,[b] sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, 5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil. 1 Peter 3:1-6 - Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; (Read More...) 1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; so you can see this scripture conferm what the paster says . the first part of timothy is speaking to men who want to become pasters. then Paul says now to the wives respect and obeys your husband. point is apostle paul was first speaking to men and not to women when speaking about becoming a pastor or preacher and after speaking to the men he turns to the woman and says now you woman I am speaking to you. obey your husband's emphasis is not on obey but who paul is now speaking to. please read the vers and your understanding bay Gods grace will be opened.
Sorry, he’s wrong. When are to be more ready to hear than to give the sacrifice of fools. The word says it is not you( female ) that speakers but the HolyGhost that speakers in you. That’s not man nor woman!!!! But God himself. The only silence anyone needs is getting in their flesh.... no male nor female read your bible
I agree with every one of your Bible arguments. I would also use every one of these arguments that condemn women preachers to teach the head covering in 1 Cor. 11:1-16 These two teaching stand or fall together. If the women do not respect the head covering they will not respect God's teaching on forbidding women preachers.
There are definitly demons. However if you ar a true believer of Jesus Christ and received him as you Lord and Savior demon can oppress yu but not possess you
Coming from a single family household where my mother ruled we (my siblings) were told that we should continue to go to a church where a woman Is the Preacher. After years and I do mean "Years" of going God opened up my eyes and I started doing my own research and instead of believing what I was being "Preached to" I clearly saw that a Woman isn't supposed to Preach!. I brought this and other things I saw that was correct in the Church and she quickly disclaimed me and we no longer have the relationship that we had. I thought about going back into the world but Yahweh told me how much he loved me and not to follow my mother instead Pray for her and the rest of my family members that still attend that Church and with Faith and Supplication Yahweh will open their Spiritual eyes also!.🙂. I do believe that demons can and attack people because it happened to me while I was serving in the United States Army and it wasn't until I called on "Jesus Christ" that the demon fled. That was in 2004 before I found out his "Real Name" which in Hebrew is Yeshua ❤🕊!. Yahweh knows our hearts and he knows that the Catholic church and our Governments have corrupted the Bible, The Ethiopian Bible has all books of the Bible compared to the English Bible which doesn't but The King James Version isnt as corrupt. Get you the Greek Septugelent and the KJV because don't forget during Yeshua's time there was no English Alphabet. May Yahweh Bless and open the eyes of all Our Brothers and Sisters. 😔🙏🏾❤🕊
“Silence” is a word in the verse, which seems to be relatively used, and is not necessarily used in an absolute universal context. Does “in the churches” necessarily imply within the four walls of the place of worship, or does it incorporate anywhere where the church is represented?
Hannah prayed and Deborah sung. So, it's not talking about never saying anything. It's speaking about being an Overseer aka Pastor. 1 Timothy 3:2-3 2 "Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money." Besides, wasn't Junia an Apostle?
The reason a woman is to be in silence, is because @the Garden of Eden, thru Eve, a spirit of adultery, was birthed. The woman became subjective to Satan. She became head over Adam, as Adam ate from the woman's hand. This mean's that men were put back in order, over the woman, when JESUS put it back in order, on the cross. The spirit that is in woman that wants to preach, is using the same spirit, as the one birthed thru Eve, thru adultery. This means that we are to follow the order that GOD made from the beginning, by not having woman preach over man.
Evil surely exists in the world....don't preach that unclean spirits cannot enter ones body. I do believe in unclean spirits (devil worship) and Holy Spirit (God worship) Demonology does exist and all types of devil worshipers can and do evil spells on others. I've seen it firsthand in my own family so you can't diss that it doesn't exist
2Peter3:15-16 Peter warned us that unlearn untaught men twist Paul's letters as they twist the scriptures also to their own destruction. Deut 4:2 Shall not add are subtract from the word of God. Paul never added are subtracted from the law of God.
2kings 22: 14 So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her. note note 15 And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me, 16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read: 17 Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the works of their hands; therefore my wrath shall be kindled against this place, and shall not be quenched. This woman told high ranking men what thus says the Lord and commanded them to tell the king. What has a women done to some of you men to harbor so much hatred?
I will say this, God speaks to women as well as men, you have to do word study ( Greek and Hebrew) not Webster Dictionary. Even the (Lexicon). I'm listening to this man and he is unlearned. His gives a little truth and that's it. Study to show thyself approved unto God a workmen needn't to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. This is why people don't go to Church, This made me sick. Not even about what you think sir it's about what God says. Male or Female, the Bible says Matthew 28: 16-20 (Oh yes He was talking to His disciples, but when you do your word study the word (disciples means student,or learner) Trained. Go and make disciples.. I'm a woman and I preach everyday I don't have to be in man's pulpit in a church ti ministry God's word. If you don't believe in demons(evils spirits) explain to me Ephesians 6:10-20?? & Matthew 4:1-11. Please be careful who you let get in your ear gate 🙏 🙏
Yeah, he actually misinterpreted that scripture in zachariah. It is a prophesy speaking upon the SECOND coming of Christ which is later expounded on in Revelation. Where ALL demons/wickedness will be wiped clear of the earth.
James 2:14-26 Faith and Works 14What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself. 18But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God. 24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead"
@@coolwater55 James is talking to saved people, that we should also do good works because we are saved but not to get saved. That your faith might as well be dead faith if you're not actively doing good things to show that you have faith. James is not saying that we have to do good works to get saved or stay saved. It's not what we do but what the Lord Jesus did for us and we believe on that by faith.
Salvation and works go hand in hand. Being "saved" is a free gift of grace from God. But no one is saved if they dont perform good works. Faith alone is Luthers mandate he was so worried he would to to Hell if he didn't measure ip.
But you are right works don't gain one salvation faith first..with of course asking Jesus to redeem oneself and proper contrition AND changing ones ways. works do play a major role once saved .
In 1 Timothy 2:12-15 Paul was wrong when he said Adam was not deceived. Eve was deceived by a master deceiver, the father of all liars, satan. Adam was deceived, let astray by a mere woman.
People refuse we have clearly known what the bible says concerning this matter but false teaching has become more accepted in the church. This comes from progressive Christianity which is no Christianity at all.
It's funny that the women preachers he first mentions are prosperity preachers who OUGHT be silent. Admittedly, I've never heard of that middle name though.
If women are to be silent in the church then how can they be preachers.Men who act like this is just another man kissing up to a woman.These kind of people want to change the Bible,they are blasphemous.They are just men acting like women.
I think I will settle this for everyone. 1 Corinthians 14 is correct. You cannot use the fact that women preached in the bible to refute Paul's teaching. The reason you cannot use past women preachers is because even though there is a historical record in the bible of women preachers/teachers/pastors does not mean it was allowed/lawful/obedient according to the law. That is like stating there are murderers mentioned in the bible so it is okay to murder so we should ignore the ten commandments! One is a historical record/fact and the other is a commandment/law. Two entirely different things.
GOD DID NOT GIVE NO COMMAND to the church, PAUL gave INSTRUCTIONS to the church in his day. HE specifically said "I (Paul) do not suffer a woman to teach". HE PAUL not GOD. Paul bases his position on what God said to Eve in the Garden. Now as I explained on a number of sites discussing this same topic ,in the beginning God made both MALE and FEMALE human beings in HIS likeness and Image. BOTH male and female were called MAN. In response to Eve's part in eating of the forbidden fruit, God decreed that "....and thy desire shall be to thy husband and HE SHALL RULE OVER YOU. Now every thing God spoke against ADAM, EVE and the serpent DID NOT EXIST BEFORE! What he decreed against them was a result of THEIR ACTIONS against him. From this we can determine that 1. God created both male and female equal 2. Neither had rule over the other. 3 What was decreed was never what GOD intended from the beginning. If we read the creation properly that is with a sense of hermeneutics we will understand that God saying that something SHALL happen is not the same as saying what SHOULD happen as in the sense of right or wrong. So the bible for the most part is written with women in a subjugated role and treated as such. It DOES NOT MEAN that this is what GOD desired or ORDAINED things to be. It was the PENALTY Eve brought on herself and all women to come just as God did not desired for us to DIE but because of ADAM death passed on us all. In her book entitled THE GOSPEL CENTERED WOMAN Wendy Alsup advises the reader when quoting the Apostle Paul to not to confuse instruction with LAW. This is what MANY people yourself including do. You and many others have taken Paul's writings and made them LAW but the thing is you all have conveniently taken what you want and discard others on what basis I am yet to understand. The thing is in some instances you all want to explain what Paul meant using CONTEXT but in other instances NO CONTEXT is used. WHAT HYPOCRISY!! This is why Christendom is in the MESS it is in, every denomination have THEIR BELIEFs on varying topics, ALL QUOTING SCRIPTUREs, ALL of them led by supposed 'MEN OF GOD', You all seem to forget that PAUL was a MAN OF GOD but NOT GOD. He gave instructions to the church then as how HE felt it should be but GOD who did not DISCRIMINATE when he sent his SPIRIT and gave spiritual gifts to ALL MEN -including women- did not make no such law. Even if we want to stretch to say that Paul was 'inspired' by the Holy Spirit when he gave these instructions he did not say was not to have authority over A man but THE man -her husband, the same MAN she should go and ask questions of when she is at home. God also did not say to EVE that just ANY man will have rule over her but HER HUSBAND."....and thy desire shall be to THY HUSBAND and HE shall have rule over you. I thank GOD that he has endowed me with HIS SPIRIT who -if I let him- will lead me into ALL TRUTH and did not leave me to the likes of you and much of the commenters here to do for it surely would be a case of blind leading the blind and I don't have to tell you where they both will end up. So called 'men of God' need to stop USURPING the authority of the HOLY SPIRIT as the MAIN TEACHER in the members' lives and the members need to STOP it from CONTINUING to happen in their lives. let GOD BE TRUE and EVERY MAN A LIAR!
1Corinthians14:34-35 isn't a commandment, paul is quoting what the jewish style church of corinth believed in, then he says in verse 36 "What? Did the word of God come unto them or from them alone?" .....if paul said women can pray & prophecy, why does he randomly says keep silent??? That would contradict his teaching. Paul only is quoting what the corinthian church believed in and paul says the word of God doesn't just come from & unto the men in the church in verse 36. People don't read the surrounding verses to know what is actually going on..
Read Romans16:1-5 on how paul constantly is thanking women...thats not silent huh. Dont compare 1corinthians14:34-35 by skipping verse 31 "ALL MAY PROPHESY". And Dont skip 1Corinthians1:10 "Let there be no divisons among you". Now lets read it this way... *1Corinthians1:10" Let there be no divisions among you" *1Cor11:5 "If it be shameful for a WOMAN TO PRAY AND PROPHECY with her hair uncovered. *1Cor14:31,33-36 "All may prophesy together. Here comes paul's sense of humor to correct them --> "Ok church, let your women keep silence in the church for "the law" says so. Let them ask their husbands at home for any questions. Becuz it is soo shameful for women to speak"....V36= Really church? Did the word of God come for you to speak only brothers? Now look at it that way cuz he just said women can speak. Who in the church said women cant speak? Answer: THE MEN. If women had to be silent, why would he tell the church not to have divisions then? And you say they should ask their husbands....but in 1Corinthians7 he says for women to remain single if they want to. All of the women in the corinthian church are not married so what husband would they have???
There is no verse in the bible that says how women cannot preach during an assembly unfortunetely. The book of Corinthians was a church adapting to jewish traditions who apostle paul was quoting and correcting their wrong errors. Women were in ministry of the church, Luke2:36-38 and Romans16:1-7 is an example and it did not show them singing here. The Corinthian church Errors are..... - Women wearing headcoverings - Women remaining quiet in church - Men being the image of God, ad not women - The ressurrection did not happen.
John S If Im understanding you correctly, the thrust of your argument is that if the bible doesn't specifically say that something is not prohibited therefore it is permissible? My friend a commandment is inclusive and exclusive.
Men like to misuse these verses in their attempt to shut down a woman. They also misuse first Timothy chapter 2 verses 11 and 12. "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man but to be in silence." Now just who is "the man?" Let's compare scripture. Ephesians 5:22-23: "Wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands as unto the Lord for the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ as the head of the church." So the man in first Timothy chapter 2, the one that the woman is not to usurp authority over, is her husband. This is not speaking of men in general. And the next verse says, "Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands. In everything wives be subject to your husbands in everything." Everything would include God's Word, would it not? So that leaves out your pastor. That leaves out the know-it-all man on Facebook. The one who gets all twisted up when he runs into a woman educated in the scriptures. They'll then pull the usurping card and start telling her she's not to usurp her authority over a man. The man being them of course. Well, you're not the man Paul is speaking of. Colossians 3:18 "Wives submit yourselves until your..." AHA there it is again "...your own husbands..." It does not say other men. It says "your own husbands." Wives are not to submit themselves to any other man other than their husbands. Hey, if it's only your husband you're to submit to, then it's only your husband you're not to usurp authority over. In Titus 2:5, Paul tells the women to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their..." and there it is again, "...your own husbands" And this is not a dispensational teaching. The same held true for those that were Romans 16:7 in Christ before Paul. In 1 Peter 3:1, Peter tells his audience "Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands." It's not about married women being in subjection to just any man. It's your own husband. Colossians 3:18 "Wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands." 2 Timothy 3:6 "For of this sort are they which creep into houses and lead captive silly women laden with sins led away with divers lusts," Notice he says, "...led away..." Who are the women who allow themselves to be led away? Those who refuse to submit to their husband. A woman is not to submit to any other man other than her husband. While these scriptures are clear, there are some women who've been beat over the head by these verses for so long that that they actually believe they haven't got a voice to speak up during a biblical conversation if a man is present. Healthy discussions around God's Word should always encourage dialogue, not monologue. This misuse of Scripture is the result of not testing what the preacher says against God's infallible Word. Some have sat and listened to these verses out of context for so long, they're clueless to Bible truth. What you need to do is is to go back now that you've got a new perspective. You've heard these verses. Now go back with your new perspective and read these passages with the proper foundation in place. The correct premise. You'll notice they'll start to look different. I challenge you.
Addreine, today, there is no such thing as a "Gift of Prophecy!" Please read 1 Corinthians 13:8-13. We have the "Perfect Law of Liberty now" (James 1:25) which is the complete word of God. There is no need for prophecy! Thanks for your question.
I would disagree with you 7SpringsCofC. 1 Corinthians 13:8-13 refers to the coming of Christ that is yet to come. And James 1:25 in no means says prophecy has ceased.
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You were speaking truth and I agreed with you up until you said that there are no demons to cast out for today. I totally disagree! Because Scripture tells us that we war not against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places..in Ephesians 6. Those are what we would call demons. Satan has a kingdom and there are demons and there are ranks in his kingdom because he is always copying our Heavenly Father. Jesus even said that there is a strongman and that you must first bind the strongman in order to spoil his house. The strongman is a demon. I pray that the Holy Spirit would open the eyes of your understanding regarding the demonic enemies that we are at war with. blessings!
sorry partner, we are all supposed to keep the laws of Moses after salvation in Christ. For Christ is the "goal" of the Torah to all that believe in Christ. "For Christ is the end of the law to all that believe". The word end in greek is TELOS. Telos doesn't mean end. In fact it means "Goal". But yes, Woman are not allowed to usurp a man's authority by overseeing, or teaching the men in the church (within a public setting).
I HAVE A SECRET I kept it hidden until today about all the times he has tricked me to suffer for him. Slashed, gashed, head cut off, hung, choked, and burnt at the steak. Beat, hit, raped, used and enslaved. Shot in the face, the drink was laced, I’m drowning with no one to save me. He claims I disgrace my own place. In his story there’s no such thing as a happy ending. I remember my own blood being splattered on the wall, and I kept my mouth shut. What if after 40 years in the wilderness I was the one destined to die? What if I told you I was the lamb crucified? What if I told you I was the one with the stab wound? Would you love me just the same if I were a she not a he? Could you believe in me? He slams my face in the door, and calls me a stupid horror. Year after year after year. I’m trapped in a cell he created hell. Worthy to be slain is my name. Dare I come in the name of Yeshua? Dare I claim equality? I have the face you won't recognize me. My spirit is in my Mother Mary. This is why I cry. I am the forgotten daughter of God, because you put the blame on me. I was forbidden to speak until now. The climate is do to the missing polarity in the trinity. I pick wisdom from the tree.
i would say the issue is prolongly speaking compared to speaking. The greek used in 1 cor 14 is G2980 strongs meaning prolongly speaking compared to G3004 strongs meaning to say, to talk, utter.
You're wrong search the scriptures again Paul said that Priscilla was more excellent in the word than Aquila her husband and there are places in the text where Paul says Priscilla's name first then there's places in the scripture Paul says aquilla's name but be reminded it is worship the Bible says where there are two or three gathered in his name he should be there that's worship your religious fanatic and you don't know the spirit of the word
Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14)
Some Bible believers may shrug off Paul’s command, contending this only represented his opinion or the norms of his 1st century culture. However, please notice that this command was not rooted in Paul’s culture; rather, the inspired reason sprang from the order established by two universal facts: the creation and the fall of man! The God-defined roles of men and women are therefore transcendent and apply to all of Adam and Eve’s descendants as far as the consequences of Adam and Eve’s sin have spread (Genesis 3:16, 20). Furthermore, Paul gave similar instruction to the Corinthian women to not speak out during the assembly:
Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. (1 Corinthians 14:34-37)
Paul equates these statements to the “commandments of God” which all spiritual people are to “acknowledge” (1 Corinthians 14:37). Likewise, the qualifications of both elders and deacons restrict the offices to that of men (1 Timothy 3:1-12; Titus 1:5-9). How can we dismiss these commands without questioning Paul’s apostleship, doubting the inerrancy of Scripture, and rebelling against God, since they proceeded by inspiration from Him and are preserved by Him (1 Peter 1:23-35)? If one is unwilling to trust Paul on these topics, how can he trust what Paul says about heaven, the resurrection, justification, grace, faith, or any other topic without becoming a “judge of the Law” (James 4:11-12)?
Some may ask, “Does the woman’s absence from public leadership reduce her impact?” No, men and women are interdependent (1 Corinthians 11:8-12). Mothers shape generations to come (Acts 16:1-2; 2 Timothy 1:5). Older women are to teach younger women (Titus 2:3-5). And, all women can fill a cold void with a warmth, kindness, and love through their tenderness, charity, and good works that cannot otherwise be replaced (Acts 9:36-41; Proverbs 31:10-30).
Would you like to be part of a sanctified people, whose moral, spiritual, and doctrinal beliefs are anchored in the rock of God’s Word? The opinions of men and institutions shift with the changing pressures of our day, but as for us, “We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29). Will you build your life on God’s firm foundation with us (Matthew 7:21-29)?
People just pick and choose the scriptures that suit them these days sadly.
The women that disagree with this sermon are the very same that are unruly at home causing disunion in their homes and church's.
the biggest disunion in the home is the man as well as in the church for they don't know how to rule. The bible says he that ruleth over men must be just and rule in the fear of the Lord. So many rule in the flesh!! ruling in the flesh is going by your own thoughts and not led by the Holy Ghost.
True
Not saying the bible doesnt say that but the word of God does say, He shall pour out his spirit upon his Sons and his Daughters (all flesh). Lesson was taught well I agree, but why say a woman cant speak for Christ, I didnt get that. Maybe I may have missed something he said but I gave my life to Christ by hearing a word from a woman.
Horrible to treat woman like this.
L.A LADY then you hate god, this is gods mandate for woman.
@@LALady1 there are very good reasons for women to not be in a leadership role. God created women and men very differently. He knows our strengths and weaknesses.
Lots of hermeneutics and archeology goes into this, and most of the egalitarians lean hard on the context of heresy that tends to be addressed in all the Pauline epistles. Often what's being discussed is thought to be a local thing, often specifically worded to the kind of heresy present in the congregation in question. It's mostly above my knowledge (I'm not a scholar on heresy at all, but mostly it was stuff where women were overly domineering towards men) but definitely worth looking into if you want to see an egalitarian argument made.
Of course there's the proof-text of Phoebe the female deacon, but definitely it needs more than a single proof-text to be accepted!
We altogether have been deceived by the church world. 1 Timothy 2:12 states that a woman is not supposed to usurp authority over the man🤠
I was with you until you said there are no demons in people today. That is just sooooo not true!!!!
I agree. The guy is wrong about demons not possessing people. In fact, his own scripture quotation refuted his argument. AFTER JESUS, HIS DISCIPLES WERE TOLD TO CAST OUT DEMONS.
Yea guys like this you really have to be careful with because they say a lot of truth but mix it with some lies and that's how they deceive people
Exactly...to give all this previous truths then turn around and be so easily stumped? Reminds me of what Jesus said, but the reverse...swallowing a camel then turns around and choke to death on a gnat.
That depends on your theology and doctrine. Let's say that you are from a Pentecostal/charismatic doctrine, you will definitely disagree with him because that is how you are taught. Whereas other denominations may agree with him because of the teaching they sit under.I wonder when you make a statement that says "...soooo not true" where did you study theology? Are you a scholar of the Word?Now, I'm not saying that I agree with him either. I must do further study into what he has said and reason from Scripture my doctrine on this issue. I guess I'm playing both sides here to give a balance perspective but....
True. They manifest themselves and can even do bodily harm.
I am with you Sir because we have to follow the bible
Diden God said man and man to get married,some of u people talk to much,
Great teaching sir 💯👍🏾
Amen brother I've never believed in women preachers...
Well, there are a lot of them. More all the time. Silent in church? NHot going to happen.
You will never hear a woman preacher read these verses in church. IF anyone can't teach from the whole bible without skipping over certain scriptures, then GOD has not called them in that field.
Amen .
So right.
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, nor slave neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus", wrote the Apostle Paul in his New Testament epistle to the Galatians.
We are one in Christ. How true, however, this passage of scripture is not dealing with women preachers.
I was with you, however, Christ did not destroy the law given by Moses, but fulfilled it.
Holland Jones he didn’t say that Christ destroyed it he said we are not subject to the law, which we are not, Jesus fulfilled it, meaning Jesus is the law specially to us gentiles ( Israelites in spirit) our only command from the law is not to eat blood or drown animal meat
Indeed God has not destroyed the law. HalleluYAH!!❤️❤️
@@adelalax3553 We are subject to the law. Now there are statues and ordinances. The blood ordinances are done away with the crucifixion of Christ.
U dont get it 🤦
The Ten Commandments, which included Sabbath keeping, was done away with. (Romans 7:4-6) “Therefore, my brethren, you also have become dead to the law through the body of Christ, that you may be married to another - to Him who was raised from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.” Verse 7 reveals the law he was referring to was the Law of Moses. “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, You shall not covet.” ( Exodus 20:17) “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
I love this video Thank God for it. Glory to God. The Word is the truth.
So you are okay with women being lower beings is fine with you. Wow
Yes as far as the church and home that's where the LORD SAYS THE MAN IS THE HEAD BUT EVERY WHERE ELSE DOESN'T MATTER
No THE LORD GIVES WISDOM TO ALL. ASK HIM FOR WISDOM.THE LORD IS MAKES THE RULES LAWS AND ETC. WHATEVER THE LORD SAYS I AM GOING TO BE OBEIDANT. HE USES WOMEN LIKE TO BE A PROPHETESS AND ETC BUT NOT TO PREACH OR BE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD WHEN YOU HAVE A HUSBAND THERE.
100% correct it is 🙏
The word of God is the word of God not to add or subtract
Thanks for sharing, I always thought it and was taught this as a child. But every thing is out of order on this earth except the word of God. Thanks for sharing and caring.
Women are not to teach and preach the Bible but they can dance, sing, worship, teach but only to women and to men, and women can prophesy and pray.
There is not one single example of a woman leading worship in the Bible.
I believe the Bible is very clear that a woman should not be in a position of authority over men. If a woman serves in any role in the worship she would be placing herself in a position of authority over any man present.
I think we men feel greatly embarrassed if our women just keep talking in church and disturb the meetings. Women tend to voice their opinions in any occasions, because they have a need to be heard. However, Paul talked about the order, an order that have been instituted for thousands of years, and it would be bad if that is broken. That's why he said, 'women should be silent....according to the Law.
In 1 Timothy 2:12, Paul said, 'I do not permit a woman to teach.....' Paul said 'I'. My question is when does Paul's command become the Lord's command? But regarding 1 Corinthians 7:6-16, regarding being single, he said that very clearly that it was his charge and not Lord's command on that issue. So, he said, '...I wish...I say...I give this charge....I...I....'
It (it's I, not the Lord's) is not mentioned in 1 Timothy. But does Paul's 'I' equal Lord's command? Please let me know.
In 1 Corinthians 14 my friend when he speaks of the women being silent in the churches he says that it is indeed a command from Christ in verse 37.
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
Mark 4:11 KJV
There is no controversy. God is not the author of confusion. Woman are not to preach in the Church at all , period !!!
May God bless you abundantly. You are preaching the truth according to the word of God
How is a single woman to receive answers to her questions if she has no husband at home?
I would suggest asking a married women
Like myself, I am a single mother. I refer to the Bible for my answers. I do not believe in Women Pastors at all b/c i have been convicted of this in my life. If there is not a man pastor of the church i attend then i do no go to that particular church. Period.
She should obey the word
Talk to a happily married woman. Problem solved.
We can't find one....
Old women teach the young how to be good wives. And the wives teach the children to be obedient.
Teach men how to be good husbands
Mark 3:15 ..."and you will have authority to drive out demon"
You had my attention up to the part where evil spirits can't posess any humans - utter rubbish ....am out
Wrong! Demons are still present and overtake people's bodies. Careful on your teachings, sonny.In fact, you might want to call upon Jesus to cast out the demon within you. just to be certain that this not where the fault lies within your understanding.
@Bad StarWolf Not 100% correct, demons are very prevalent in the thought processes of many a people, and the more act on their subliminal suggestions in your decision making the stronger their hold over you becomes.
Hello! Hit that nail on the head
Paul meant what he said> a woman cannot have authority over a man a woman has to stay silently according to the Law she cannot teach in the front.
I was telling a pastor what to do, and same night I heard the Holy spirit say 3 times" I do not allow a woman to have authority over a man." When I woke up, I saw it was Jezebel spirit oppressing me. I repented, fasted, resisted, both Jezebel and Leviathan spirit left me. Job 41:1Can you draw out Leviathan with a hook? Job 41:34 He beholds every high thing;
He is king over all the children of pride.
Humble yourself before God. Be submissive to God's word.
You don have to be Jezabel to have a voice within the church.
Demons do exist an they still do posses people that let them self open to the demons. The more evil you do the closer you become to satan and his angels.
Agree.
You need to study this in context and with extreme diligence; preventing 51% of the world from teaching God's Holy Word is an enormous responsibility.
Regardless of what American or the world allows; the word of God is the authority, first and last word.
"Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Eph 5.
What is acceptable to the Lord? Our opinions and gossip are absolutely not acceptable. Only obedience to the "Word of God".
The word of God instructs, and corrects so those that don't obey the "Word of God" are disobedient worldly sinners kicking against the pricks.
"Let the women keep silent" is a commandment not a suggestion.
Amen
I would respectfully disagree with the law of Moses being the Old Law. It's still very much intact in fact Jesus Christ said if you love me you will keep my Commandments. In fact many times he reinforced his father's laws
What I'm hearing, rather not hearing from these preachers is the word USURP! but in these so called new translated bibles have it as women are not to have authority over the man, oppose to usurp authority over the man. The difference is the word Usurp means to seize and hold a position, office or power to use without authority by force and without legal right. See how these NLT. takes away from the scriptures. The 13th and 14th verse of 1Timothy 2:12 explains why. The women Pastors, Bishops, preachers, Evangelists, Elders, are transgressing the word of God by doing this. They even have women Apostles now; and you can't tell them that God did not call them to preach, get ready for a big argument.
Paul tells Timothy (1 st Timothy ch 3 v 2) that a bishop MUST be the husband of one wife and only a man can be a husband.
EXACTLY 💯
I agree with your view on women not speaking in the assembly.
Good, strong, basic Bible teaching. May God's eternal word of salvation stand forever, and may we believe, obey, and love it.
Baptized in the name of, of...the name is Jesus Christ, praise God 🙌🙏
for the women it is must to keep silent in the churches. Romans 10:17.
Why is he even allowed to teach 🤦🏾♂️
In Jesus there is no male nor female in the Spirit. We are all one in the Spirir. Not ye that speak but the Spirit that speakers in you. It is only in the natural ( as order is that man should rule over the woman. As he is led by God. In the Spirit anyone can obey God in the church. Flesh is flesh Spirit is Spirit. Read your Bible. In the flesh there’s a difference! Not in the Spirit
For it is not you that speakers but the Spirit that speakers in you
Speaketh
YES THANK YOU.
women should not be a pastor or preacher over the men according to the scripture of Bible ..and Jesus doesn't chose women to be a disciple or preacher that is very clear .
That is not clear Jesus said go into all the Earth n preach, in that audience there were women and children. Jesus did not say but only you men no he said go ye into all the world n preach the word. These are Paul's words n he could be referring to woman asking questions during the sermon or talking about a brunch you don't know for sure look how the devil used God's word against JESUS knowing full well he is the son God. Be not deceived for Jesus said even the elect would be. Remember Mary n others were right by his side. The devil will use any method not to let the word of God spread.
Did you read all of chapter 14 or are you taking verses 34 and 35 out of context. There are 39 verses in this chapter and you take the one who may have been added later to this letter and were never written by Paul. The reason for that is that they contradict everything Paul wrote before and even after. Here are the verses
26 What then shall we say, brothers and sisters? When you come together, each of you has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. Everything must be done so that the church may be built up. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two-or at the most three-should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret. 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.
29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace-as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people. 34 Women[f] should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.[g]
36 Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37 If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by the Spirit, let them acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. 38 But if anyone ignores this, they will themselves be ignored.[h]
39 Therefore, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.
Can you see the contradiction? So which one are correct? I will go with all of them except 34 and 35. Thy do not belong there. Also if you have done your research tell me what law did the writer talk about and were is it written that it is shameful for a women to speak in the church. Also do you conduct your assembly of believers or church as Paul instructed in this chapter?
The Mystery of Adam Show me were it says that a woman spoke in tongues,,
Never met a Jezebel yet who wasn't a butcher of scripture, confused and deceived. BTW, it was Jesus who called you Jezebel in Revelation 2, not me.
Thanks. These are valid points.
Good lesson Rev
"Keep silent" means silent.
Tongues or no tongues.
The verse speaks about order.
It ALSO refers to tongues, but is generic
I agree that the passage is about order. If the translation is correct, it seems he is talking about talking while a sermon is being conducted. Certainly there would be a time for discussion after. Why would anybody present keep silent if they need clarification, whether it be a man , woman or a child?
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Aw Paul writes, if a woman has a question, let her ask her husband at home because it is shameful for a woman to speak in the assembly (church)
@@TheWay7 He also mentions several women who were teaching (ministering) right along side him. Not just in Corinth.
@@lizreyes6577 Not teaching. Helping him. Many women served Paul and the churches but he doesn't write about then teaching. I think you are pulling that from your imagination
Do not the Holy Spirit moves "men ,women, and children of the Most high, to speak? Do not Men, women, and children of all ages and races , nations and tongues, walk in the Water behind Christ and rose up out the water after Christ? Can not a women testify, the things the Lord has done for her? Isnt her womb, the womb blessed with the babies of the Lord? Isnt she giving birth to the Kings, Queens, Prophets and sons of God? Why not She speaks when Christ swore by his own name, all he has done was for his Bride to come....? Did not John speak about the Elected lady of Truth and everyone who ever loves truth, loves her and her Children? Didn't the lord speak on a Queen during the end times, that is wiser than Solomon? Is the New City adorn like a Bride? A woman shouldn't be an old loud mouth , babbling bs ...but if that women is prasing the Lord, where is her fault.......??????? God delights in women and all people praising his name. .Because He is worthy.....A woman , drunk , talking nasty, under her clothes, no self respect, she should keep quiet.....but a daughter of the lord, who knows her Father is different....Its all about the Lord and his forgiveness....I am a woman and on the Lord, I will testify...
When there was division at the church at Philippi, Paul appealed to two leading and influential women, Euodia and Syntyche, to help resolve the schism. -- Bible
See, Philippians 4:2-3.
This is an offensive topic. Many pastors are too chicken to bring this up. The spirit of jezebel aka feminism has infiltrated the church a long time ago but today with 3rd wave feminism having a tougher more evil stand, things are worse. Many if not most of these feminist women say: men are not men masculine enough today." I say: "that's not an excuse to exercise authority over the man in the church and home." Women pastoring churches is not biblical and there's not one verse in the bible talking about women leading congregations. Yes women have done amazing things in the Bible, I will admit that. but preaching in churches is not a woman's role, that's a. Man's role.
Calling Paul the last Apostle is a lie because Barnabas was an Apostle according to Acts 14
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The group of books that we call the holy bible has been copied, revised, edited over and over and over again. We don't know what Peter, Paul, Mark, Luke actually wrote or if they actually wrote the books that bear their name. With every edit, revision, copy there was an agenda. Why should any of us preach these minor subjects when there are major issues in our churches, cities, states, countries, the world!!!!
2 TIM 2:15 , that means you are going to have to know what the original translation says. the issue here is if you believe that allll! scripture is given by the inspiration of GOD and is profitable not unprofitable for doctrine for reproof ,for correction for instruction in righteousness. Righteouness was imputed unto Abram because he believed and trusted in God. All man needs to do is be obedient to what God has inspired men to write.
This is why we must be taught by the Holy Spirit and not the teachings of men.
Brah I have help cast out a devil, you got it wrong on that. I was with you about the women but you error from scriptures. You need to go get some faith.
God did not call you to preach. STOP AND REPENT. ENOUGH PHILOSOPHERS IN THIS WORLD.
Prophesying is for telling the future that is not preaching.
The Apostle Paul wrote "there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor male or female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." --Bible
See the epistle of Galatians.
How long will people be blind
Go back and check out the traditions and.customs of that time
Effective Security the Bible is not the word of culture, it’s the word of truth
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As a “church of Christ” member… I know we always use passages for us to stand out .. away from other church organizations.
This is a typical explanation.
If you’re going to explain something as heated as this subject you must break it down by context not (topical explanations)
I’m a member of the church and I was confused by this.
This Brother in the Lord speaks the truth for the scriptures do teach these truths and even More so 1 Timothy 3:1-7 3 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Therefore an overseer[a] must be above reproach, the husband of one wife,[b] sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, 5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil. 1 Peter 3:1-6 - Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; (Read More...) 1 Timothy 3:2 - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; so you can see this scripture conferm what the paster says . the first part of timothy is speaking to men who want to become pasters. then Paul says now to the wives respect and obeys your husband. point is apostle paul was first speaking to men and not to women when speaking about becoming a pastor or preacher and after speaking to the men he turns to the woman and says now you woman I am speaking to you. obey your husband's emphasis is not on obey but who paul is now speaking to. please read the vers and your understanding bay Gods grace will be opened.
He just gave us Bible and some of yal still in denial jus read it for yourselves he didn jus make it up
Sorry, he’s wrong. When are to be more ready to hear than to give the sacrifice of fools. The word says it is not you( female ) that speakers but the HolyGhost that speakers in you. That’s not man nor woman!!!! But God himself. The only silence anyone needs is getting in their flesh.... no male nor female read your bible
Bravo!
I agree with every one of your Bible arguments. I would also use every one of these arguments that condemn women preachers to teach the head covering in 1 Cor. 11:1-16 These two teaching stand or fall together. If the women do not respect the head covering they will not respect God's teaching on forbidding women preachers.
There are definitly demons. However if you ar a true believer of Jesus Christ and received him as you Lord and Savior demon can oppress yu but not possess you
Coming from a single family household where my mother ruled we (my siblings) were told that we should continue to go to a church where a woman Is the Preacher. After years and I do mean "Years" of going God opened up my eyes and I started doing my own research and instead of believing what I was being "Preached to" I clearly saw that a Woman isn't supposed to Preach!. I brought this and other things I saw that was correct in the Church and she quickly disclaimed me and we no longer have the relationship that we had. I thought about going back into the world but Yahweh told me how much he loved me and not to follow my mother instead Pray for her and the rest of my family members that still attend that Church and with Faith and Supplication Yahweh will open their Spiritual eyes also!.🙂. I do believe that demons can and attack people because it happened to me while I was serving in the United States Army and it wasn't until I called on "Jesus Christ" that the demon fled. That was in 2004 before I found out his "Real Name" which in Hebrew is Yeshua ❤🕊!. Yahweh knows our hearts and he knows that the Catholic church and our Governments have corrupted the Bible, The Ethiopian Bible has all books of the Bible compared to the English Bible which doesn't but The King James Version isnt as corrupt. Get you the Greek Septugelent and the KJV because don't forget during Yeshua's time there was no English Alphabet. May Yahweh Bless and open the eyes of all Our Brothers and Sisters. 😔🙏🏾❤🕊
“Silence” is a word in the verse, which seems to be relatively used, and is not necessarily used in an absolute universal context.
Does “in the churches” necessarily imply within the four walls of the place of worship, or does it incorporate anywhere where the church is represented?
Hannah prayed and Deborah sung. So, it's not talking about never saying anything. It's speaking about being an Overseer aka Pastor. 1 Timothy 3:2-3 2 "Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money." Besides, wasn't Junia an Apostle?
The reason a woman is to be in silence, is because @the Garden of Eden, thru Eve, a spirit of adultery, was birthed.
The woman became subjective to Satan. She became head over Adam, as Adam ate from the woman's hand.
This mean's that men were put back in order, over the woman, when JESUS put it back in order, on the cross.
The spirit that is in woman that wants to preach, is using the same spirit, as the one birthed thru Eve, thru adultery.
This means that we are to follow the order that GOD made from the beginning, by not having woman preach over man.
You Are 100% Right Brother !
Evil surely exists in the world....don't preach that unclean spirits cannot enter ones body. I do believe in unclean spirits (devil worship) and Holy Spirit (God worship) Demonology does exist and all types of devil worshipers can and do evil spells on others. I've seen it firsthand in my own family so you can't diss that it doesn't exist
2Peter3:15-16 Peter warned us that unlearn untaught men twist Paul's letters as they twist the scriptures also to their own destruction.
Deut 4:2 Shall not add are subtract from the word of God. Paul never added are subtracted from the law of God.
No Woman preacher !!
2kings 22: 14 So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her. note note
15 And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me,
16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read:
17 Because they have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the works of their hands; therefore my wrath shall be kindled against this place, and shall not be quenched.
This woman told high ranking men what thus says the Lord and commanded them to tell the king. What has a women done to some of you men to harbor so much hatred?
She did not preach. She simply prophesied
Jay Wells exactly! Thank You, Big Difference
I will say this, God speaks to women as well as men, you have to do word study ( Greek and Hebrew) not Webster Dictionary. Even the (Lexicon). I'm listening to this man and he is unlearned. His gives a little truth and that's it. Study to show thyself approved unto God a workmen needn't to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. This is why people don't go to Church, This made me sick. Not even about what you think sir it's about what God says. Male or Female, the Bible says Matthew 28: 16-20 (Oh yes He was talking to His disciples, but when you do your word study the word (disciples means student,or learner) Trained. Go and make disciples.. I'm a woman and I preach everyday I don't have to be in man's pulpit in a church ti ministry God's word. If you don't believe in demons(evils spirits) explain to me Ephesians 6:10-20?? & Matthew 4:1-11. Please be careful who you let get in your ear gate 🙏 🙏
Excellent. Demon part is still a mystery, but the rest was spot on, good job.
Yeah, he actually misinterpreted that scripture in zachariah. It is a prophesy speaking upon the SECOND coming of Christ which is later expounded on in Revelation. Where ALL demons/wickedness will be wiped clear of the earth.
Believed in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and you'll be saved. Salvation is by faith, and not of works lest any man should boast
James 2:14-26
Faith and Works 14What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
18But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God. 24You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead"
@@coolwater55 James is talking to saved people, that we should also do good works because we are saved but not to get saved. That your faith might as well be dead faith if you're not actively doing good things to show that you have faith. James is not saying that we have to do good works to get saved or stay saved. It's not what we do but what the Lord Jesus did for us and we believe on that by faith.
Salvation and works go hand in hand. Being "saved" is a free gift of grace from God. But no one is saved if they dont perform good works. Faith alone is Luthers mandate he was so worried he would to to Hell if he didn't measure ip.
We may be saying the same thing..but faith alone still cant stand alone according to Matthew 25 and James passage on faith amd works.
But you are right works don't gain one salvation faith first..with of course asking Jesus to redeem oneself and proper contrition AND changing ones ways. works do play a major role once saved
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For it is a shame for a woman to speak in all churches.
Pastor Gino preaches on this subject.and John Macartor.
In 1 Timothy 2:12-15 Paul was wrong when he said Adam was not deceived. Eve was deceived by a master deceiver, the father of all liars, satan. Adam was deceived, let astray by a mere woman.
What about a woman confession in the church assembly?
People refuse we have clearly known what the bible says concerning this matter but false teaching has become more accepted in the church. This comes from progressive Christianity which is no Christianity at all.
Watch pastor Gino Jennings
It's funny that the women preachers he first mentions are prosperity preachers who OUGHT be silent. Admittedly, I've never heard of that middle name though.
And by the end of the video I see where he went with naming them. :)
If women are to be silent in the church then how can they be preachers.Men who act like this is just another man kissing up to a woman.These kind of people want to change the Bible,they are blasphemous.They are just men acting like women.
Thank you. 'Keep silent'? Is what Paul said? 'shut mouth and submissive to her man'? No way. 'Don't speak'? No way. 'Speak out not'.
You bamboozled your self with that “no demon possessed today”: brother because satan is more rabid now than then
Start listening to Pastor Gino Jennings on CZcams. He speaks the truth he don't sugarcoat nothing when it comes to the HOLY BIBLE
Thank you for RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH.
Where should this debate me what state or country?
I think I will settle this for everyone. 1 Corinthians 14 is correct. You cannot use the fact that women preached in the bible to refute Paul's teaching. The reason you cannot use past women preachers is because even though there is a historical record in the bible of women preachers/teachers/pastors does not mean it was allowed/lawful/obedient according to the law. That is like stating there are murderers mentioned in the bible so it is okay to murder so we should ignore the ten commandments! One is a historical record/fact and the other is a commandment/law. Two entirely different things.
God's gonna use whom ever he wants to use, man or woman, while people argue about nothing because they need control!!!
SuperBike Racer yes!! He even used a donkey!!!
SuperBike Racer yes amen
Say that again
It's still not a woman's role to teach in churches. God's word cannot be changed.
@@JoseRivera-be3bo AMEN AMEN AND AMEN!!
GOD DID NOT GIVE NO COMMAND to the church, PAUL gave INSTRUCTIONS to the church in his day. HE specifically said "I (Paul) do not suffer a woman to teach". HE PAUL not GOD. Paul bases his position on what God said to Eve in the Garden. Now as I explained on a number of sites discussing this same topic ,in the beginning God made both MALE and FEMALE human beings in HIS likeness and Image. BOTH male and female were called MAN. In response to Eve's part in eating of the forbidden fruit, God decreed that "....and thy desire shall be to thy husband and HE SHALL RULE OVER YOU.
Now every thing God spoke against ADAM, EVE and the serpent DID NOT EXIST BEFORE! What he decreed against them was a result of THEIR ACTIONS against him. From this we can determine that 1. God created both male and female equal 2. Neither had rule over the other. 3 What was decreed was never what GOD intended from the beginning. If we read the creation properly that is with a sense of hermeneutics we will understand that God saying that something SHALL happen is not the same as saying what SHOULD happen as in the sense of right or wrong.
So the bible for the most part is written with women in a subjugated role and treated as such. It DOES NOT MEAN that this is what GOD desired or ORDAINED things to be. It was the PENALTY Eve brought on herself and all women to come just as God did not desired for us to DIE but because of ADAM death passed on us all.
In her book entitled THE GOSPEL CENTERED WOMAN Wendy Alsup advises the reader when quoting the Apostle Paul to not to confuse instruction with LAW. This is what MANY people yourself including do. You and many others have taken Paul's writings and made them LAW but the thing is you all have conveniently taken what you want and discard others on what basis I am yet to understand. The thing is in some instances you all want to explain what Paul meant using CONTEXT but in other instances NO CONTEXT is used. WHAT HYPOCRISY!! This is why Christendom is in the MESS it is in, every denomination have THEIR BELIEFs on varying topics, ALL QUOTING SCRIPTUREs, ALL of them led by supposed 'MEN OF GOD',
You all seem to forget that PAUL was a MAN OF GOD but NOT GOD. He gave instructions to the church then as how HE felt it should be but GOD who did not DISCRIMINATE when he sent his SPIRIT and gave spiritual gifts to ALL MEN -including women- did not make no such law. Even if we want to stretch to say that Paul was 'inspired' by the Holy Spirit when he gave these instructions he did not say was not to have authority over A man but THE man -her husband, the same MAN she should go and ask questions of when she is at home. God also did not say to EVE that just ANY man will have rule over her but HER HUSBAND."....and thy desire shall be to THY HUSBAND and HE shall have rule over you.
I thank GOD that he has endowed me with HIS SPIRIT who -if I let him- will lead me into ALL TRUTH and did not leave me to the likes of you and much of the commenters here to do for it surely would be a case of blind leading the blind and I don't have to tell you where they both will end up.
So called 'men of God' need to stop USURPING the authority of the HOLY SPIRIT as the MAIN TEACHER in the members' lives and the members need to STOP it from CONTINUING to happen in their lives. let GOD BE TRUE and EVERY MAN A LIAR!
1Corinthians14:34-35 isn't a commandment, paul is quoting what the jewish style church of corinth believed in, then he says in verse 36 "What? Did the word of God come unto them or from them alone?" .....if paul said women can pray & prophecy, why does he randomly says keep silent??? That would contradict his teaching. Paul only is quoting what the corinthian church believed in and paul says the word of God doesn't just come from & unto the men in the church in verse 36. People don't read the surrounding verses to know what is actually going on..
Yes, paul wants order in men and women being on one achord not separate as he said in 1Corinthians1:10
Read Romans16:1-5 on how paul constantly is thanking women...thats not silent huh.
Dont compare 1corinthians14:34-35 by skipping verse 31 "ALL MAY PROPHESY". And Dont skip 1Corinthians1:10 "Let there be no divisons among you". Now lets read it this way...
*1Corinthians1:10" Let there be no divisions among you"
*1Cor11:5 "If it be shameful for a WOMAN TO PRAY AND PROPHECY with her hair uncovered. *1Cor14:31,33-36 "All may prophesy together. Here comes paul's sense of humor to correct them --> "Ok church, let your women keep silence in the church for "the law" says so. Let them ask their husbands at home for any questions. Becuz it is soo shameful for women to speak"....V36= Really church? Did the word of God come for you to speak only brothers?
Now look at it that way cuz he just said women can speak. Who in the church said women cant speak? Answer: THE MEN.
If women had to be silent, why would he tell the church not to have divisions then? And you say they should ask their husbands....but in 1Corinthians7 he says for women to remain single if they want to. All of the women in the corinthian church are not married so what husband would they have???
The bible is clear and makes a distinction between a woman preaching during the assembly versus a woman singing and talking.
There is no verse in the bible that says how women cannot preach during an assembly unfortunetely. The book of Corinthians was a church adapting to jewish traditions who apostle paul was quoting and correcting their wrong errors. Women were in ministry of the church, Luke2:36-38 and Romans16:1-7 is an example and it did not show them singing here.
The Corinthian church Errors are.....
- Women wearing headcoverings
- Women remaining quiet in church
- Men being the image of God, ad not women
- The ressurrection did not happen.
John S If Im understanding you correctly, the thrust of your argument is that if the bible doesn't specifically say that something is not prohibited therefore it is permissible? My friend a commandment is inclusive and exclusive.
Men like to misuse these verses in their attempt to shut down a woman.
They also misuse first Timothy chapter 2 verses 11 and 12. "Let the woman learn in
silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man but to be in silence." Now just who is "the man?" Let's compare scripture. Ephesians 5:22-23: "Wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands as unto the Lord for the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ as the head of the church." So the man in first Timothy chapter 2, the one that the woman is not to usurp authority over, is her husband. This is not speaking of men in general.
And the next verse says, "Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands. In everything wives be subject to your husbands in everything." Everything would include God's Word, would it not? So that leaves out your pastor. That leaves out the know-it-all man on Facebook. The one who gets all twisted up when he runs into a woman educated in the scriptures.
They'll then pull the usurping card and start telling her she's not to usurp her authority over a man. The man being them of course. Well, you're not the man Paul is speaking of. Colossians 3:18 "Wives submit yourselves until your..." AHA there it is again "...your own husbands..." It does not say other men. It says "your own husbands."
Wives are not to submit themselves to any other man other than their husbands. Hey, if it's only your husband you're to submit to, then it's only your husband you're not to usurp authority over. In Titus 2:5, Paul tells the women to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their..." and there it is again, "...your own husbands"
And this is not a dispensational teaching. The same held true for those that were Romans 16:7 in Christ before Paul. In 1 Peter 3:1, Peter tells his audience "Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands." It's not about married women being in subjection to just any man. It's your own husband. Colossians 3:18 "Wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands." 2 Timothy 3:6 "For of this
sort are they which creep into houses and lead captive silly women laden with
sins led away with divers lusts," Notice he says, "...led away..."
Who are the women who allow themselves to be led away? Those who refuse to submit to their husband. A woman is not to submit to any other man other than her husband. While these scriptures are clear, there are some women who've been beat over the head by these verses for so long that that they actually believe they haven't got a voice to speak up during a biblical conversation if a man is present.
Healthy discussions around God's Word should always encourage dialogue, not monologue. This misuse of Scripture is the result of not testing what the preacher says against God's infallible Word. Some have sat and listened to these verses out of context for so long, they're clueless to Bible truth. What you need to do is is to go back now that you've got a new perspective. You've heard these verses. Now go back with your new perspective and read these passages with the proper foundation in place. The correct premise. You'll notice they'll start to look different. I challenge you.
Can women ask questions during teaching?
I love my Christian Sisters. And brothers. And I love God- who has the authority to assign roles as He sees fit.
Sleight of hand with the "no casting out of devils" remark...
Do I leave the church.The male paster stepped back and let is wife become lead Pastor
What do you do if you need a word and a woman is the only one with a gift of prophecy?
No one has the gift of prophecy today. That was fulfilled by completing the word of God. Aka - the bible. People do however have gifts to prophesy.
Addreine, today, there is no such thing as a "Gift of Prophecy!" Please read 1 Corinthians 13:8-13. We have the "Perfect Law of Liberty now" (James 1:25) which is the complete word of God. There is no need for prophecy! Thanks for your question.
I would disagree with you 7SpringsCofC. 1 Corinthians 13:8-13 refers to the coming of Christ that is yet to come. And James 1:25 in no means says prophecy has ceased.
7SpringsCofC Why do you leave out 1 Corinthians 14:26-29 where it tells the man to be silent first?
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28 But G1161 if G3362 there be G5600 no G3362 interpreter G1328, let him keep silence G4601 in G1722 the church G1577; and G1161 let him speak G2980 to himself G1438, and G2532 to God G2316.
29 G1161 Let G2980 the prophets G4396 speak G2980 two G1417 or G2228 three G5140, and G2532 let G1252 the other G243 judge G1252.
30 If G1161 G1437 any thing be revealed G601 to another G243 that sitteth by G2521, let G4601 the first G4413 hold his peace G4601.
You were speaking truth and I agreed with you up until you said that there are no demons to cast out for today. I totally disagree! Because Scripture tells us that we war not against flesh and blood but against principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places..in Ephesians 6. Those are what we would call demons. Satan has a kingdom and there are demons and there are ranks in his kingdom because he is always copying our Heavenly Father. Jesus even said that there is a strongman and that you must first bind the strongman in order to spoil his house. The strongman is a demon. I pray that the Holy Spirit would open the eyes of your understanding regarding the demonic enemies that we are at war with. blessings!
sorry partner, we are all supposed to keep the laws of Moses after salvation in Christ. For Christ is the "goal" of the Torah to all that believe in Christ. "For Christ is the end of the law to all that believe". The word end in greek is TELOS. Telos doesn't mean end. In fact it means "Goal".
But yes, Woman are not allowed to usurp a man's authority by overseeing, or teaching the men in the church (within a public setting).
I HAVE A SECRET
I kept it hidden until today about all the times he has tricked me to suffer for him. Slashed, gashed, head cut off, hung, choked, and burnt at the steak. Beat, hit, raped, used and enslaved. Shot in the face, the drink was laced, I’m drowning with no one to save me. He claims I disgrace my own place. In his story there’s no such thing as a happy ending. I remember my own blood being splattered on the wall, and I kept my mouth shut. What if after 40 years in the wilderness I was the one destined to die?
What if I told you I was the lamb crucified? What if I told you I was the one with the stab wound? Would you love me just the same if I were a she not a he? Could you believe in me? He slams my face in the door, and calls me a stupid horror. Year after year after year. I’m trapped in a cell he created hell. Worthy to be slain is my name. Dare I come in the name of Yeshua? Dare I claim equality? I have the face you won't recognize me. My spirit is in my Mother Mary. This is why I cry. I am the forgotten daughter of God, because you put the blame on me. I was forbidden to speak until now. The climate is do to the missing polarity in the trinity. I pick wisdom from the tree.
The Bible did not a woman can not say anything, she just can not preach.
i would say the issue is prolongly speaking compared to speaking. The greek used in 1 cor 14 is G2980 strongs meaning prolongly speaking compared to G3004 strongs meaning to say, to talk, utter.
You're wrong search the scriptures again Paul said that Priscilla was more excellent in the word than Aquila her husband and there are places in the text where Paul says Priscilla's name first then there's places in the scripture Paul says aquilla's name but be reminded it is worship the Bible says where there are two or three gathered in his name he should be there that's worship your religious fanatic and you don't know the spirit of the word
This is according to the Bible.