RODE PODMIC - Two things to buy + why you see small waveforms!
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- The Rode Podmic is a slugger for its price. I'm very happy with it, but only after I bought these two items:
Cloudlifter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Short XLR Cable: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Rode WS2 Pop filter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Article for Garageband podcast setup: sixcolors.com/post/2015/08/ad...
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I watched about 10 vids trying to figure out why my rode podmic was ultra quiet at max gain, this is the first one that actually helped
Heyyyy that's what I like to hear! I typically make super niche videos haha.
does it sound low when you have the max gain? so sad to hear that, i was thinking about buying it.
Bro this is now my problem. I tried to get phantom power and there a lot of noise . Whats your fix?
@@officialopenbox I went and got a mixer (mini go xlr) and set up a noise gate but Im sure any mixer should be able to get the job done too for better price, if you don't need the audio routing go xlr provides. Or alternatively you can find the noise when recording in your daw, and noise reduce it when editing your audio recordings
@@localrudeboy4987 I'm using a goXLR full-size and no cloud lifter. It seems a little quiet still and I don't want to crank the gain. Any settings you recommend?
Good comments about a great microphone. Yes, some form of an inline preamp is required and a Cloudlifter is good for that. Many CZcamsrs don't talk about the preamp requirement and they miss explaining it. Good job and thank you.
Rode should manufacture a mic that essentially has a cloudlifter built in. Or just sell their own version.
I don't think they will do that because if people are using interfaces which have enough power to drive a microphone like the procaster or podmic, they will have to pay more for a feature they didn't need at all, and couldn't opt out of because it's built into the microphone, so they are unlikely to buy it. It can also be confusing for people if they buy a dynamic microphone which by design is passive, meaning it doesn't need any external power, only to find that this particular one does need power to work. If Røde want to make their own fethead or cloudlifter alternative, they could do that, but it may not be a big enough market for them to jump into and for us consumers it makes no difference, we already have access to the tools we need.
A RodeLifter would be cool
Those do exist, just not from Rode. Two big examples are the sE Dynacaster and the Aston Stealth. They work off of phantom power just like any other preamp and they both sound amazing even maxed out. Rode really should look into it.
Thank you!
I thought I was the only one with this issue! We've been recording our podcast into Garageband using a Behringer xenyx qx1202usb and 4 Behringer 8500 dynamic mics for about a year and then, this year, we just upgraded to the Rodcaster Pro and 3 Rode Podmics (keeping one 8500 as our "guest mic". All of our recording and editing have been into Garageband because that's what we're used to but, since using the Rodecaster and podmics, we've noticed that our levels (the waveforms) were hardly even noticeable when recording, like yours (Garageband looked like a flat-lined patient...barely a heartbeat! LOL) and I would have to boost everything around 5db or more in post just to sound as loud as we did when we were using the QX1202!!!
Anyway, I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one having this issue because all the videos I watched before I bought the Podcaster, showed everyone just using it right out of the box, and using the presets and they were all gushing about how great it sounded and all their levels were very clearly showing up in Reaper or whatever DAW they were using and I wasn't getting that so I thought I had a faulty Rodecaster Pro!
Glad to see I wasn't the only one!
I also got a few inline pre-amps but I tried the Se Electronics DM1 Dynamite. It's $50 cheaper than the cloud-lifter and you only need one XLR cable and you get the same results!
I can finally see the waveforms now too!!!
Appreciate your videos...especially now that I know I'm not the only one experiencing the same issue!!!
Brien Ramsey You’re welcome! Good to hear from someone using the pod mic with a Rodecaster. I have a rodecaster but use some Audio Technica mics with it.
I know higher end interfaces can boost the gain but if you don’t have one you must get a mic booster like I showed. Glad it helped!
Dude, not the only one. It's like every mic you connect to the PreSonus Audibox does it. Thinking about just buying a Shure MV7 and using the USB. Quality sound and mic... no fiddling with preamps and cords.
Tracy: I am having the same "volume" issue as you described in this video. I came to the same conclusion you did. Yesterday I ordered the Cloudbusterd. It should arrive today. I am anxious to add it between my Behinger mixer and the RODE Podmic. You also cleared up two issues I was not clear on: 1) adding 48v Phantom Power, and, 2) placement of the pop foam windscreen. You came along at just the right time. Thanks, Hank in SC.
Thanks Hank! So glad this video I made forever ago is still helping people.
Tracy: The Cloudlifter arrived today and performed exactly as you indicated. Hank
@@TracyDavis904
I bought two podmics way owerpriced (paid 150€ ), because you cant find them anywhere now, but returned them after days of trying to make them work, got at2020 and they are amazing. Despite them being condenser mics. Two mic setup at2020-200 eur, podmic + cloudlifters - 600 for me. Thats for sure the better option when you dont have additional money to spend.
Ultimately I went with the sE dynamite, but the cloudlifter was on my radar because of this video. It was because of this video and another one where this guy tried the dynamite and cloudlifter with a SM57 and an SM7B that got me to buy something. Looking forward to it. Also grabbed the rode pop filter because I've noticed that rode probably has the absolute worst pop filter in this mic - if they even have one at all. lol. Looking forward to the changes these will bring :)
A good in-line mic preamp is never going to hurt you but depending on the quality of your preamp it’s not always needed.
One other thing to consider is the quality of your cables. If you run a long cheap cable and it isn’t shielded well your preamp will be amplifying the noise as well.
So in general you want the preamp as close to the mic as possible. The fethead and SE dynamite plug into the mic directly so there’s no worries about cable quality or length.
All great tips that I’ve implemented since making this. Thank you!
Thank you! Was breaking my head as to why my camera which has XLR inputs was not picking up anything despite having its gain way high.
Thanks for the information! Just what I needed to know.
you can get really awesome results throwing some EQ at the podmic, really a bang for buck mic that will last forever.
thanks for the info! I've been looking at this mic for months now and was wondering how effective adding over a pop filter would be even though the mic itself has a built metal filter like it's previous mics. Also went back and forth with it since the additional cost with the cloudlifter. So About a $250+ purchase haha this video helps!
I bought a Podmic and a Sontronics Podcaster Pro, and the sontronics works no problem with my Zoom L-8 but the Podmic is making a lot of noise, and now i know why.
I ám returning the podmic since it becomes too expensive if i have to buy a cloudlifter, Røde are totally pulling an Apple trick here: make it only compatible with your own equipment.
The sontronics will be my go-to mic, sounds as good or better than the Podmic and no hassle with buzzing or gain-levels.
Great video, i am glad to see that its not just me that has this problem, i thought at first it was my L-8 that was defect.
Not true, It is compatible with a lot of other gear not just Rode, but you have to remember this is a dynamic mic, this means it will need a lot more clean gain, and some audio interfaces cant supply that higher clean gain, example a Sound Devices MixPre 6 can use virtually any mic whether dynamic or condenser does not mater in this case, as SDs mic Pre Amps are super clean and capable of very high gain.
The Presonus can not supply enough clean gain for a dynamic mic such as the Rode or even a Shure SM7B and thus require an audio interface that can supply a lot of gain, so with this in mind you do not need a cloud lifter or any in line-pre if you just match the interface with the type of mic you are buying, although a Scarlet 2i2 must also be set high for dynamic mics it still provides pretty clean gain.
So all you need to do is your homework make sure that when buying a dynamic mic that you buy an audio interface that can provide the gain needed for it. Anyone interested in seeing how dif dynamic mics work with a Focusrite interface, a bunch are tested here. and you can easily see how much gain they need, yet the Focusrite still remains pretty clean ...
czcams.com/video/gLm4H-OQdhc/video.html
I acually find my Procaster typ be really quiet on my Rodecaster. I just ordered a fethead to get that clean boost.
Using rodes own settings for the procaster/rodecaster combo gets you really clean audio but it's very low.
@@MeltUp3 Yea Røde works great with Røde gear, kind of like Apple products.
Does not work well with other brands such as Zoom recorders unfortunately.
Hey mate, great video. I have the Podmic that I run through a Focusrite 4i4 and a Cloudlifter. I recently bought a DBX mic pre amp with a de esser that I added to the chain. It makes the mic sound so much better and it’s very cheap.
I use 4 of them with the rodecaster Pro.. no problem with the Gain :) but Nice to know that it works with the cloudlifter also.
Thank you! Great information!
Such a great video. Details exactly what the viewer is looking for. Many thanks. ;)
MasterKaosDJ thank you!
Something that works correctly for me, is having the hardware Gain set so I get -25dB at normal talking. After that, it needs a noise gate set correctly and a Maximizer, which I highly recommend over a compressor. Try the LoudMax VST plugin. Sounds much closer to the mic, compared to using compression. You should be able to get to about 3dB below line level without distorting the sound.
Something I forgot to add tho: You need to be close to the mic for this, I’d say like 2-3 inches, because you’re harvesting it’s strong side of removing BG noise and reverb some more that way. Depending on the amount of reverb in your room, you might end up with almost completely dry sound, free of most reverb.
One more thing: The gain maxed out doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Yes, it can raise the self-noise of the interface, but even if it does, the question should be: Is the self noise higher than the actual room noise? Often enough, this is not the case, especially with audio interfaces too weak to drive the Podmic to line level. -57dB of output isn’t THAT bad. Often enough this number in real world use would result in a too hot signal. While I don’t have a Podmic, my RØDE Procaster at -56dB in reality is driven with my Steinberg UR22 Mk II at roughly 90% on the gain knob, which with a tested gain of ~50dB results in like 45dB of gain needed. At that gain setting my UR22 Mk II with a 120 ohm dummy plug gives me a self noise of -79 to / -74dB in VoiceMeeter. This is within 1dB of the expected self noise with a dynamic microphone connected. And now tell me, that anyone has a room that quiet in his recording. My room with two PCs in it gives me a room noise of -71 to -67dB of gain, which is 8dB louder. If I was able to use absolutely no PC in the room, I am streaming from, then I probably could get about 6dB lower and still, the self noise would be 2dB below that. And since with my current room noise I can easily create a -10dB signal with absolutely no room noise left and no audible gating after post processing, I feel confident enough to not recommend paying for the Cloudlifter, when there are interfaces available below a Cloudlifter’s price tag which are capable of driving even the infamously quiet Shure SM7B, let alone the RØDE PodMic.
This hurt to know I have to spend MORE money but thanks for the truth. I am having the same problem with it being so quiet with everything at max.
Ah great video. Needed this!
Glad it was helpful!
A fethead (or cloud lifter) is useful for the Procaster, too. Especially for spoken word.
Thanks help me understand why I am getting similar noise using another rode mic!
Thanks for this! I haven’t found much info on this. I bought a Scarlett solo 3rd gen, and a Shure SM58 mic. But the sound was so low... I ordered a Fethead though, similar, all happy now
For all people that are complaining about the cost of cloud lifter. You can buy different product that will consume Phantom Power and give you gain boost. For example cheaper option would be sE Electronics Dynamite it works just great. Keep in mind that all those gain lifters have some level of background noise. Sometimes if you got interface with a good preamp it's better to crank it up than adding gain lifter into your circuit. I've also seen that people with good preamps like dbx286s are still using gain lifters, there is no sense of doing that.
Do you think I need a gain lifter on the 2i2 with the pod mic?
Tomer 7171 I would say it depends. If you’ll talk being closer to the mic and you are ok to boost gain a little bit in post production then ok. But it’s always better to have a bit more power.
2i2 3rd gen has Gain Range
-56dB
2i2 2nd gen has a little bit less (If I remember correctly it is -50dB)
Rode PodMic Sensitivity is -57.0dB
Those values can be taken from products specification that are available online.
Do a little research, there are a lot of videos with podmic. Keep in mind I'm not an audio expert :)
@@ten3mareczkos thx so much for the help man
@@Tomer7171 If you are not sure about how much gain power you have I would suggest to use condenser mic which is using Phantom Power. I had relatively cheap AT2020 and I really liked it :)
Yea I know but the podmic is just really good for the price and if I get a lot of white noise ill get the gain booster
Hey, just got my rode PodMic and I got it all setup. I use the FocusRite Scarlet 2i4 since it was on-sale for $120 (that's $110 off its original price so it was a steal) and I have to turn my gain dial set to 80%, but I'm not sure if it's this audio interface but it seems to be a pretty clean gain and I don't hear any hissing or feedback from it, so for me personally with the 2i4, it doesn't seem like I'll need the cloudlifter.
ferric you don’t need a cloud lifter for this mic with the majority of interfaces
Im new to audio stuff and im getting 2i4 and podmic tomorrow so hopes it work cleay out of the box
Some interfaces do what the cloudlifter does.
Thanks for this video, very helpful. I have a Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 along with the Podmic and finding that I have to have the gain at at least 80% which never seemed right to me either, so I'm going to look at the Cloud Lifter device. Also great to know about the additional windshield that fits this mic, for me that would look a lot better than having one of those pop shield which I do have but would prefer the windshield solution.
Fancy seeing you here ferric been watching ur wiz on a budget
I'm getting the Rode Podmic soon, paired with the Go XLR Mini which i should get in a month. My BF uses the Rode Procaster on the Go XLR Mini and has no problems .
I'm using the Podmic with a full size GoXLR and it works just fine with that. you kinda have to crank the gain but its fine!
@@lucanix8522 how far away can you get from the Podmic and still get picked up with the GoXLR? Do you keep the gain cranked the whole time? I'm looming to buy this same combo - thanks!
Have you got the Podmic yet? How far can you get from it and still get picked up with the GoXLR? Do you keep the gain cranked? I'm looking to buy that same combo - thanks!
@@davidjohnson281992 So my gain is set to 57dB which is like 80% or so of the max gain. and i normaly don't get far away from the mic since every mic sounds better the closer u get to it.
But for the question about how far i can get away from the mic... that depends on the gate settings in the goxlr software. so if i put the threshold really low i can get far away but it will also pick up much more disctracting noise from lets say the keyboard
@@lucanix8522 can you post a photo link of a screenshot of your goXLR PodMic settings? I've got the same PodMic and full size goXLR setup :)
Get the Klark Teknik CM-1, which looks exactly like a grey cloudlifter clone (because it literally is), except its $30. They also make an cylinder-shaped version that can connect directly to the mic's XLR input so you dont need a 2nd XLR cable in the chain.
The Cloudlifter is great but it’s more expensive than the podmic😂
Better to get a more professional interface with decent Pre’s. Still though, CL is a great device and the podmic looks pretty cool.
If I had to do it over I would get a better interface first, but I already had it. Still, $250 for a great sounding mic setup isn't bad.
@@TracyDavis904 Still cheaper than the SM7B + Cloud lifter (total $550)
There are more cheaper and equally just as good alternatives to the Cloudlifter: Triton Audio FetHead -and- SE Electronics DM1 Dynamite. These are far cheaper, and also add more gain than the Cloudlifter (the DM1 Dynamite adds 29dB). They are also more compact and can be plugged straight into the mic itself, so you don't need two XLR cables. The cloudlifter itself is overrated, there are better, cheaper and more compact alternatives.
@@TracyDavis904 I agree. If you already had it, go with it. Just bad coincidence that that PreSonus 96 pre amps are known for their inferior ore amps.
@@neonix01 I agree. The Cloudlifter seems overpriced and overhyped. I ordered a FetHead for my PodMic, and everything I've seen on it suggests that it's going to be plenty good enough.
Another very good option is a Triton FETHEAD its alot cheaper and gives more then enough gain I don't even have it plugged into my mic but into my interface without extra noise.
I was hunting for a podcast mic. And saw this did a small research and saw this video but didn’t watch it because I didn’t think I will need the cloud lifter. I bought the mic today and installed it. Yup I had the exact issue in the video now I need to buy a cloud lifer.
See the other commenters here, there are some cheaper options other than the cloud lifter.
@@TracyDavis904 download equlaizer APO for db boosting its free
@@OmegaDonut how does it different than say using OBS? Just curious. I was thinking of getting Podmic + Audient EVO 4 before finding out most of the budget interface would not have enough gain for the Podmic. Now it's either I get a Fethead or Podmic + GoXLR Mini (this is already my max budget). But if I can just get Podmic + Audient EVO 4 (plus this free software), would be the best!
Great review--some of it went over my head since I'm new to audio. I've been looking for a better mic for YT vids and voiceovers in Premiere Pro for my videos, would this be a good option? Currently using a Samson meteor USB mic that plugs directly into my computer and recording directly in Premiere or with audacity, do I need garage band? And what interface do you recommend I get for a beginner to get the mic up and running so I can use it with my computer?
I'd keep it simple and get a USB mic. Shure has a new one.
go xlr mini is about the sameprice as a cloudlifter, so for value I think the goxlr mini is the way to go.
Agreed, if you manage to find one. Mine is back ordered until August. :-(
I just got this mic!!!!! now i need to get the xlr cable, audio interface and a mic stand 😆
I'm sure there is much validity on what you're saying about the Rode Podmic being quiet mics and needing an amplifier. There are many Amazon reviews from users saying the same thing. I was also considering buying 2 of the Rode Podmics to go with my new Rode Rodecaster order, but I'm thinking to change my mind now. Plus it's IMPOSSIBLE to buy the Podmic cuz it's literally sold out everywhere. Why is this mic so popular???
Casey Cheung It will pair perfectly with the Rodecaster, it has the right gain for this mic. It’s popular because it’s a stellar mic for $100.
Thank you. Wondering which arm clamp thing is being used because the one I got can't hold the weight and I just get to watch it slowly descend or just drop. Or is there a desk stand?
I have a cheap one from Amazon, but I'd recommend the nicer one from Rode for $100.
@@TracyDavis904 Thank you. I'll check it out.
Hi - I just bought the Rode Podmic - I bought the Neewer NW-100 phantom power supply and the XLR cables AND the usb sound card. I've gotten everything set up, selected the correct microphone in my sound settings and it doesn't work...
When the XLR to stereo male cord is lightly connected to the sound card (meaning not well pushed in) you can see the mic picking up some sound in the sound settings - however there's no actual audio being recorded... Is the phantom power supply redundant? Do I have the right equipment... I'm not a tech-person by any means and don't understand what the issue is, please HELP.
Thanks!
Hmm, I'm not exactly sure to be honest. I'm not familiar with the equipment you listed. The Podmic does need phantom power so ensure that is on. Sorry, wish I could be more help!
I have been looking at the Klark Teknik Mic Booster Cm-1 and it seems to do the exact same thing as a Cloud Lifter at only £35 and is an established brand too. It’s also 48v phantom powered and adds +25dB of gain.
Lots of noise added, you get what you pay for. There was a review on CZcams I watched although it’s no good me telling you this without giving you a link lol, a quick search should yield the result
What setup did you use on the video before cloud lifter arrived? I need to make videos without mike on the scene.
Probably the Rode Videomic Pro Plus or the Deity Vmic D3 Pro.
Has anyone tryed an external mixer like the Yamaha MG06 and take the master outs to the input lines of the interface? If it works, you could amplify two mics, have other ins for other stuff and It cost almost the same as the cloudlifter.
Use as pre amp the Fethead from Tritonaudio this pre amp is so much better and cheaper. Use it in combination with the motu m2 and you will have an Perfect Setup for a Good Price
A Cloudlifter also requires using an additional XLR cable, while a Fethead doesn’t.
Im a noob when its comes to this information but would the cloudlifter be needed if I was solely using this for streaming/recording on my PC(video games and such)?
It all depends on your setup. For example, I have the PodMic like he does, and I use a similar interface, the Focusrite 2i2. I had to have the gain at 100% for people to hear me, so I ended up getting something similar but way cheaper, the Klark Teknik CT 1. I can now have my gain at 50%, which is awesome. BUT, I also have a different mic, the MXL 770, which has the gain at just under 75%, so I don't need a booster for that one. And if you're streaming, which means you'll be live, you wont be able to boost the audio in post (you CAN boost with some software like voicemeeter), but if you have a setup like in the video, or like mine, then you'll need a cloudlifter/fatheat/klark teknik.
Would this mic be good for streaming? I want that streamer sound without spending streamer money. Also I have a current mic it’s quite when I apply filter buttt when I speak it picks up my fan and whatever else background noises when speak. will this mic plus cloud lifter be a great combo to fix the solution?
MadeInHD yep, it’ll be perfect.
Hi Tracy, thanks for the video!
I have a question. Do you need a shock mount for the podmic?
No, just a regular mic stand will be fine.
@@TracyDavis904 Thnx!
does the podmic work with the dynamite preamp
Works great
Hello, ik this is an old video, but i would like to know what i need for recording audio clearly with streamlabs OBS if possible. I have the rode podmic, boom arm, and a pop filter, and a usb XLR cable. I have the XLR cable from the Rode podmic box, do i need to get the cloudfilter AND the Presonus audiobox? I hope you can get to me😁
I’d call a guitar center or sweetwater and ask them.
So I just bought this mic, arriving tomorrow. I run a Focusrite Scarlett 3rd Gen - should I be adding a fethead? There seems to be a mixed line of thinking on this when I've watched a bunch of CZcams videos, some say yes, others no.
Danny Brown With my experience thus far, I don’t see the mic working well without a fethead/cloudlifter. It’s gain level is far too low and you’ll have to crank your preamp to get a decent level, which will introduce a lot of noise into your recording.
Danny Brown I’m looking to get these pair soon. Was the Focusrite able to power the Podmic? Do you have to crank the gain? I saw one person say they had to use about 80% but that the gain was clean and didn’t introduce that much noise.
@@Volatuhl Not the one you're replying to, but I just got a Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen to run the SM57 I have lying around. Both the Podmic and the SM57 have about the same sensitivity (-57db and -56db respectively) and I can drive it with gain set to around 80-90%. This is pretty much to be expected. I'm running it through OBS where I apply some light noise suppression and about +7db of gain and it's working just fine
Christopher Tse Thanks for the info, mine came in today and it’s working great!
Very nice. Btw what's that audio software your using? Thanks
Garage band
So I ordered my mic but also the Go XLR so I should be fine without a lifter right?
Yep
@@TracyDavis904 thank you
do you recommend me swapping the podmic (selling it) and buying the shure sm7b? and if so should i buy a cloudlifter for the shure and a new mic arm?
Element Yes and yes. I actually just sold the Podmic, kept the cloudlifter and got the SM7B and couldn’t be happier.
Tracy Daniel Davis Time for me to get another change as this was a long term dream and also i record and stream often and needed good quality
I bought the podmic and don't get me wrong, it is a solid mic all the way around. If you are only doing something on the level of podcasting, it is more than enough. But I broadcast terrestrial radio and beyond and trained ears can notice the subtle differences. I use it with a Rodecaster Pro which is optimal for the Podmic but it simply can't hang with the Shure SM7B so I got one of those. Started with an EV20. In the end it comes down to preference, but if you want truly professional sound, then you are going to have to get the industry standard. Pricey, but the reputation is earned.
@@MrMoKelly yeah i record videos so i want it to be professional and i’m part of other people’s videos too, so having a shure will surely help me out soon, just gotta make sure it’s early
Omg thanks!
Hey Tracy great video what software are you using to record and edit your videos ?
Hey! I use Final Cut Pro
so you're only using the cloudlifter because your interface gain was maxed out? because i'm using the Foucsrite and my gain is at 90% and my mic volume, on the podmic is at 70% and if i do a recording without talking i don't have any background noise and it seems to sound good. Would i be right by saying i probably don't need a cloudlifter?
Patrick Long with an decent audio interface such as a focusrite Scarlett there really is no need for a cloudlifter, it has enough build in gain control to achieve virtually the same results
You have a better interface than I with the Focusrite! So you should be squared away...
I just got a PodMic and UMC22 interface. I'm used to CZcams learning everything but quality explanation of audio equipment for podcasting is SCARCE. I don't want comparison videos. I just want walk-thrus and breakdowns of the products I have. THANK youuuu for breaking this stuff down and talking to me like I'm a noob (because I am!)
So I'm getting this humming noise and I'm been up way too late troubleshooting. The same noise floor you were getting.
I've learned that it may be whispers of electrical noise that me be from my MacBook, the room I'm in, ghosts, idk. Do you know what that noise floor is? How do I remove that noise floor in garage band?
Still going to try and trouble shoot, but I'm also wondering if my UMC22 is a bad interface because I've been reading on the internet that other users have had similar issues. But they may be noobs too. What love to hear your thoughts.
Friday Ezenwa Thanks! Is your preamp knob turned all the way up like I showed in mine? That can be it. Or your XLR cables could be laying in top of an electrical line? Try getting the interface away from your mic as well. The USB connection is powering the interface keep that in mind. You can do some working with it in editing using a noise gate plugin, but you’ll want to fix it before that as you never want to edit our issues.
if you want to know more technical stuff with sound I recommend checking out the youtube channel Sound Speeds. The guy is a Tv and Movie sound engineer and can help you understand some of the more technical aspects of sound engineering.
Dallen9 Thank you! I’m still trying to figure out how to eliminate noise using my set up. I was recommended to get a Focusrite Audio Interface
UMC 22 is great! Maybe urs is broken
Thank you
Didnt have the same issue, but i need the same solution....
For live talking i need to use the noise gate, My issue was that it was clipping my voice at 53db... So i needed to put by gain to 65db to be able to use the gate properly, but then i had issues with noise...
hey im thinking about getting the podmic do i need xlr box for it to work ?
Yes you do need an xlr amplifier
I'm pretty sure you could have just applied the 48v phantom power to the mic without the cloudlifter. The podmic is just built as a very quite microphone and although you may not need the 48v for it to function, using it would have most likely fixed your problem.
Alhecks Nope, that’s how I was able to initially use the microphone but it did not work well without the cloud lifter. I had it for about a week before buying the cloud lifter.
Adding 48v phantom power to a dynamic mic doesn't change its gain.
What mic are you using while doing this video? Thanks for sharing. I look forward to future videos.
This was a Rode Videomic Pro I believe. Thanks, haven’t been motivated for more videos in a while but I want to get back to CZcams soon.
@@TracyDavis904 thank you again. I am a new beginner to the live streaming space. I purchased a Podmic without doing my full due diligence. It’s not a beginner’s usb mic that I can plug-in and play. Now I have to get a interface and a cloud lifter to drive the mic. Thanks again for sharing
I was looking into getting this mic with the Audient EVO 4 USB Audio Interface would this be a good setup?
I’m not aware of that interface, sorry!
I currently have the audient evo 4 you probably need a cloud lifter as setting the gain to max is still a bit quiet.
Do we need the cloud lifter paired with the rode podmic and goxlr mini.
I believe the goxlr can handle it but I'm not sure!
The goxlr can handle it but it’s not compatible with macs
Not that it’s necessary in every case but it’s probably not overkill on a lot of dynamic mic’s.
I need help. Should I buy rode ai-1 audio interface rather than cloudlifter? which is better?
openbox I’ve never used that, sorry. Call Sweetwater, they can offer great advice.
@@TracyDavis904 would you recommend focusrite solo than cloudlifter?
mate great looking vid. You shouldn't be using a software compressor to try and chain the gain of an incoming signal, plugins only affect audio POST AD conversion and recording. a hardware compressor would do it, but using the compressor in logic/GB does no good, understanding gain structure and headroom is vital. your presonus input knob is not a 'volume' control, its to set the correct impedance and operational level for the myriad of mics that could be plugged in. would love to chat more with you. take it easy.
Still learning! I would love to have more equipment for this stuff one day like a better preamp and compressor.
When the host takes his headphones off so he doesn't blow his ears out, you should too
This mic paired with a Scarlett 2i2 offered enough gain without a cloud lifter
Mr. Flowers Not for me, introduced a lot of noise.
I have a problem with my rode pod mic and I use the focusrite scarlet solo for my audio interface. My problem is that I hear a lot of hissing and do avoid that I use a sofeware that has a gate so that I can cancel out the sound and I just raise the volume in the sofeware. Would the cloud lifter work for me with this problem aswell or my other guess is a better audio interface? Someone help me.
Cloud lifter would only amplify your problems. Sounds like you have some thing in your audio chain that is giving you noise. I was getting a lot until I noticed my XLR cable was touching my power cable. I just had my headphones on listening to what my mike was picking up and started moving cables around to see if it made a difference. Hard drives can also somehow get in the frequency and cause noise. Try turning things on and off.
@@TracyDavis904 Thank you I will try it out.
A cloudlifter is actually kinda expensive... Can i use a goxlr mini instead? Similar price. More functions
Jac ReviewsStuff yes you can.
I have the Rode Procaster and I use the GoXlr mini with it, it is perfect as the go xlr mini has lots of clean gain available and you won't need a cloudlifter or fethead
Yes it works fine with just the goxlr mini and most other decent interfaces
@@jinisterx how far can you get from the mic and still be picked up with this setup? I'm looking to buy the same thing. How high do you have to keep your gain? Thanks!
@@davidjohnson281992 On the GoXLR mini software there is a MIC setup section. MIC type is set to Dynamic and the gain is set at 58dB.
On the mixer itselft I have the slider all the way up. This works out really good for me as you have to take in to account for all the other settings like, Gate, Equalizer and Compressor. And remember those are set depending on how your voice sounds with the mic and your background noise like keyboard or PC fans.
As for your first question, how far from the mic and still be picked up, this can depend on how loud you are when you talk.
For me I'm about 4-5cm / 1.5-2inches away from the mic foam cover.
I purchased this Podmic and paired with M-Audio Air 192|4. However, I have to maxed out the gain in order to see the waveform in Audition. I think i need this inline preamps, but the price is more expensive than the Podmic.. :(
The fethead is a little bit cheaper preamp and if watch some comparison videos of the Cloud lifter vs fethead they are pretty much identical.
@@mikelnorth7201 My current combo: Podmic + Cathedral Pipes Durham MK2. Very happy with them especially when attending online Zoom meeting.
Do you think this is better than the new Fifine k688?
I don’t really keep up on the newest stuff anymore man. Sorry
Has anyone used this with the zoom podtrak p4? I feel that I have a lot of sound feedback. I have the gain up to 6. Is that too high?
Instead of driving the gain all the way up I boosted the gain in garageband and upped the volume as im not the loudest speaker
You can but that’s kind of ‘faking’ the overall volume vs. recording at the correct gain level.
After reading all these comments, I'm sad to see that this mic has such problems. Like most of you, I bought the PodMic after reading all the great reviews about how this is a great entry-level mic. After following advice from a local merchant, I decided to spend my budget on a decent Audio Interface and went for the Steinberg UR22C. I figured this would ba a good enough box to push the audio i got from the mic...
i can only get a strong signal from a gain of 85% and above and with this comes a dull hum as I'm pushing the gain so far. If I had any idea that I would be in this situation I would have avoided the PodMic BIG TIME. Especially since the solution suggested here seems to be more expensive than the mic.
I've head of the Cloud Lifter in other audio videos along the way and it seems to be a nice bit of kit. It's probably a good investment for the future but something I didn't budget for...
I think I'll try every combination of cables, switching power supply options (USB 3.0 and 5V AC), and moving my set up around to see if there is interference from anything on my desk.
*sigh*
On a brighter note, I'd like to thankTDD and everyone in the comments for clearing this up for me. I think without this video I could have been troubleshooting for a long time with vendors trying to sell me even more equipment.
CONCLUSION - if you're gonna purchase the PodMic - test it with your AI if possible before purchasing OR sign up for the Rode scam of making an entry level mic that only works with their expensive console.
Very glad it helped you! It was certainly frustrating for me!
which microphone do you would buy instead? Elgato Wave? I have the podmic with GoXlR mini a good combo. Need gain around 65db like the shure smb too. My two problems are: the noise of mechanical keyboard and the stutter ( you hear me then in middle of sentence nit,) i can‘t find good settings for the GoXLR noise gate. Oh and yes I don‘t like ‚eating‘ my mic. Need to be real close and in front. I love playing with my head for back et while gaming.
Wait so is just the PodMic and GoXLR Mini not good enough?
Nah you should be fine with those.
Bro which software did you use in this video?
GarageBand
Love the hat
You don't need a Cloudlifter, get a
Klark Teknik CT 1 it is also a mic booster, but at a very reasonable price, and at a very good quality.
Thanks! Others have offered suggestions as well.
If you don't have money for a cloudlifter klark teknik ct1 works just as well it's only 29.99
lmao i checked on amazon and it must not be on there cause it showed me a different model for $400 LOL
4:49 you recording that on your doorbell lol?
Yep! Lol
Hey man i've just bought a PodMic and a mixer (Behringer Q802USB) - and i cant quite it to sound nice? if i adjust the compressor on the mixer my mic sounds like its broken? like some weird background noise.. i dont have a cloudlifter btw.. its that important?
Yes, the mic isn't giving enough gain to your mixer so your compression is probably trying hard to push the gain which is the noise you're hearing.
@@TracyDavis904 Does that have any other negative effect that im missing a cloudlifter? like EQ ? because i'm really having trouble getting that crisp sound
Daniel Schmidt How’s your room? Is it full of hard surfaces or do you have some sound absorption? Start there, any mic will sound bad in a hard room.
Tracy Daniel Davis i get you... but i honestly doubt that Its all due to lack of acoustic foam etc
I have another question, what do u recommend putting the windows gain volume at when u have a XLR microphone. The volume settings on windows under control panel.
I use Mac 🙃
where can I get the podmic I've been looking and its sold out everywhere
Verkinized I got it from B&H!
Tracy Daniel Davis thanks for letting me know but they are sadly out of stock their too
Is there a good budget arm for the podmic?
Mine was about $50 on Amazon.
@@TracyDavis904 What's it called?
Tracy Daniel Davis what is it
You should have left the input gain on your audio interface at 80%+... as high as it can go without adding noise.
Not sure if you will see this comment, but it happen to not see any wave from the podmic in garage band, is it because I don't have a cloud filter or another type of problem ?
Probably! Watch the video and that might explain it.
Which pop filter are you using?
It's literally in the video lol
@@TracyDavis904 , ah, I skipped ahead. From the angle toward the end of the video, it looked like a pop filter. I see it's actually a windshield. I've been trying to find an actual pop filter for this.
what mic stand will work for this?
beast mode 4200 any, but I have the Rode boom arm.
Tracy Daniel Davis Thanks! Any possible way you could link?
Correct previous comment typo: "Cloudlifter" not "Cloudbuster."
Curious, you still need the cloud Lyfter if you’re using the podmic with the rode caster pro?
No you dont
Nope
and if you have a decent mixer like yamaha mg10xu i set my gain like 2 o'clock and is really loud and clean you don't need post +dB
You don’t need it. I have a podmic rodecaster pro setup
I just don't get it. Why can't the audio interface manufacturers include a mic booster inside their units? This is not technically impossible. In my case, I ordered the Podmic together with the Rode AI-1 audio interface. I know that this will also require an external mic booster, so I ordered the Klark Teknik CT-1, which is an excellent booster according to reviews, and is far more cheaper than the Cloudlifter.
Just ordered mine mic and I think there should be a windshieldfilter that should fit 🤔
GreyGoneMad Probably! I just went with Rode’s since I knew it fit.
@@TracyDavis904 Yea I heard the rode WS2 fits and that is pretty much it for what I know for now probably have to dig deeper and see what I find 🙂
If you are buying a goXLR or goXLR mini than you dont need the cloud, it does the work for you. Youre welcome
How far can you get from the mic with that setup? Do you need to keep your gain cranked? I'm looking to buy the same combo - thanks!
Just so people who view this are aware the presonus interface he is using has a gain control range of 35 dB. Any focusrite interface has a range of 56db. I’m saying this because focusrite interfaces are so popular and they have affordable options, so unless you have a audio interface with a low gain range buying a cloudlifter or fethead or a goxlr just for this purpose is probably a waste of your money.
Yep wish I had bought a focusrite!
This is really subjective to which mixer/AI you use. I didnt have to use a CL with my mg10xuf. Im on the higher settings but not maxxed and i still sound great
Depends on the interface you have. I think a lot of people’s preamps won’t put out enough gain.
So wait could I just buy a go xlr instead and it would do the cloud lifter thing by itself
yes
I know people who use this material and who would like additional GAiN
There are better mic activator like the Dm1 or fethead
you dont need cloudlifter if you have good and that have good interface, but nice video
Jørgen Jonassen I’ve heard that some interfaces have the ability to raise the gain anyway. Guess mine doesn’t.
@@TracyDavis904 i use SSL2 and it can gain up to 63db and its enough for the sm7b witch need atleast 59bb gain
@@peterjonassen5107 Im using an SSL2 as well withhe podmic. I dont like having to turn the knob to 9.5 just to get a decent gain.
@@ighfirlee i use this mic for talks on pc, and it needs 70db gain and my friends like the gain hat i put on
So you bough an auxiliary pre amp at $150 (retail price) for a microphone that otherwise costs $100 all day long? Most other videos I've seen on the Rode Podmic didn't need an additional mic preamp. Perhaps it's just the preamp in your interface doesn't provide as much gain as other audio interfaces.
bwillan that’s because most people have been using a go xlr with it which doesn’t require a cloudlifter for any mic
Nah, his preamp was fine too, you don't need a cloudlifter. He was just overly paranoid about turning the gain to max, even though that's pretty standard for pretty much every dynamic microphone and pretty much every modern interface can handle it no problem.
But when I do it adds a ton of noise?
Tracy Daniel Davis your right to be using you don’t want gain up all the way because it can effect the quality if you had a interface like the go xlr you wouldn’t need it
How do I mute the mic
There isn't a mute on the mic. I've only seen USB mics do that.
u cant completely mute mic like podmic, u usually turn down the gain to 0 thru audio interface
oh man of course you had issues, your presonus only has like +35db of gain and some dynamic mics can be hungry. Something like a golxlr mini with Midas pre-amps can put out +70db of gain so you wouldnt even need a cloudlifter.
Yea I wish I had known that! Lol. I since got the Scarlett 2i2!
Hey, i have the Motu m2, i thought to buy the Podmic, but i dont know if i need a Cloudfilter or not. Thanks for help