Doall Milling machine Head and motor work.
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- This week I get the Doall milling machine motor cleaned up and back together along with starting the milling head tear down to clean out all the
grease put into the oil fittings. We also do some lathe work and I show the progress made on the shop in the last week. There is also a guest appearance from Elizabeth and Chestnut the squirrel.
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How is it that Steve is the only person on the planet where the wife is a helper rather than a complainer. Steve you have no idea how lucky you are or just how much we envy you.
Adam Booth's wife Abbey is the same. Check out Abom79 CZcams channel.
My wife is a helper, too. As am I to her. Works out well. For 30 years.
I'm sure the irony of your misogynistic complaint is lost on you.
SKF - Svenska KullagerFabriken, which translates to “(the) Swedish Ball Bearing Factory”, actually invented the spherical ball bearing back in the early 1900’s. The american SKF Industries is a subsidiary of this company. So the bearings might be “American made”, but they’re Swedish at heart 😊
My last SKF bearing was made in Bulgaria. I think they have factories all over!
Some SKF bearings are now made in China.
When you do your final shop layout, consider that a press next to a big window is not a good location. In my years I have seen things pop, slip, shatter and fly out of a press a few times.
Ive been watching your channel since back when Adam Booth visited some time ago and introduced you to us, and ive watched your work on the shop ever single week - you work ethic and willingness to tackle anything and everything is
really a tribute to how people used to get things done because they didnt have huge amounts of resources and money. Also kudos to all the help from your family, father, friends and the viewers / patreons who know their money is going to an honest hard working guy who just wants what many guys want, a nice shop to work in. Its not often you find someone who is willing to take the time to methodically do the job right, and the satisfaction from that is well worth the effort. You started with a building many might have just torn down but you have made the best of everything you have and it really shows. Cant wait to see how things come together this summer. Congrats-!
I completely agree. I too first started watching Steve following the visit from Abom79 and have watched all episodes since including many of the old videos. This is now the channel I must look forward to new content. Well done Steve, keep up the fantastic work and approach you have to the things we all strive to do. Keek safe (was amused to see in the shot of you on your lift working on the mill and see the stickers warning you to NOT do exactly that, We all would.) and well from here in the UK
Thank you👍. Every mechanical minded person needs a place to work. Big or small. Believe it or not I was happy to have the old falling down shop simply because it was somewhere to work . Having it fixed is a bonus. Thanks for watching and commenting.
When you haver rebuilt a motor give each end of the shaft a sharp tap with a brass or lead hammer to take the press side loading off the bearings! Another great video Steve!
Phil UK
You must be the only bloke alive who hasn't printed a label saying "label maker" and stuck it on his label maker!
I don't know if any viewers of your channel would be interested, but there's a restorer of very fancy paintings by the name of Julian Baumgartner who reminds me of you. Both of your CZcams channels are quite similar in an odd sort of way. When you started explaining what a thoroughly BAD idea it was to use grease in an oil chamber I was reminded of Julian's reaction to things like people using epoxy instead of rabbit hide glue to repair old paintings. You are both masters of your craft and your work is very satisfying to watch.
love seeing these machines being saved..... save the things that built the modern world
I love changing motor bearings. Every time I get a new machine I convince myself that I can hear/feel the bearings in the motor grumbling.
Bought bearings yesterday. 4 bearings, the most I have spent on this machine since I got it, and they only had Timken bearings, where the cheap Chinesium would have run just as well, seeing as they are only a low speed roller.Probably do another 40 years though, while the originals are sort of fine, I wanted a sealed unit so as to reduce the dirt getting into the zz bearing races, as they now run rough, 2 2RS 6202 bearings it was.
I like mr steve summers because he is calm, and think things through before he does something.
Knipex parallel jaw pliers are awesome for seating keys in motor shafts.
Steve, I've been working on perfecting my shop for 42 years. My wife jokes that I'll have to come back in the after life to finish it.
Good Saturday Mornin Steve, Grits, and more learning's and inspiration! Great basic take apart video to clean and restore. The rest of the Family just puts the icing on the cake. I look forward to our Saturday Morning the whole week. Thanks and God Bless.
Glad to see your using the fork life for an adjustable work table, my thoughts exactly
Everytime he uses that i become more sold on getting one myself. Even if it only prevents me from tweaking my back once a year its worth it
I want you to know I’m really getting jealous of that Walkie. So many handy uses. I think I have jealousy issues about that mill too😜
Press the bearings into the housings first and then press the housing/bearing assembly onto the rotor.
This will eliminate pressing "thru the bearings"
Ever since Adam Booth paid you a visit I went back and have been binge watching the shop construction/repair. I’m very impressed with your depth of knowledge over a broad area of technology. I have the exact tool box (with side box of drawers) but because I’m an aircraft mechanic I do not have the top boxes.as I roll my toolbox from airplane to airplane and I use the top as my personal work bench. I, too, used a label maker to help find the correct drawer,
Thanks Rex👍
Always love seeing your squirrel friends !!!
Tim
Get yourself a little hot plate to heat up the bearings before you press them on, it'll help a lot.
Good to see the work on the press pay off so quickly, won't be long before that mill is earning it's shop space.
It is so awesome to see someone who does handcrafted work ,in these times of wasting time programming a cnc to do a 15 min job....Good on you sir keep it up. :-)
Come for machine, stay for squirrel
The amount you've achieved is amazing Steve. Rebuilding your shop was an enormous task. I'm looking forward to more machining soon.
Steve, great to see a true craftsman taking care of an old machine. Your skill and attention to details shows!
Eric
Good to see the Steve-N-C lathe back in action.
Good to see the new pallet lift getting used, when it's not being used!.
Great vlog both, thanks for sharing.
John
That old toolbox is not junk its a CZcams Restoration video waiting to happen lol
Exactly what I thought when he showed it.
When using a torch to loosen things, I call it the red wrench.
Really happy to see the shop really coming together again.
I'm so impressed with your mobile hydraulic lift work platform! The plastic pallet you use would be super handy. Shop is looking great. Keep up the good work. Also, I heard a saying that hit home for me. " When I die, I hope my wife doesn''t sell my tools for what I told her I paid for them!"
The shop is only "done" when the old man passes away. There's always room for another improvement.
Chestnuts right at the fun stage. Starting to acclimate to you guys, figuring out you're not gonna eat him lol...
The Do all looks like a well made machine. I might not have considered one until you took on this one and showed us.
Thanks for sharing
No matter the size of your shop, it will never be large enough. Tools just keep on coming....not a bad thing !
However big you think you need a shop double it and maybe you'll be OK.
HaHa- Steve says " Measure and cut straps and sew them back on" Wife says "Just tie a bow in the back"
I gather from my sewing wife that it is much harder to rip than sew - thus measure twice, sew once.
Wow what a difference between the new shop and the old. I'm very jealous. Looking forward to a lot of chips flying. Keep up the awesome work.
That's what hard work will get ya. Something nice eventually.
The squirrel wisperer, your wife's a natural with them. Good to see the shop getting put to rights. That transmission grease sure turned narly over the years. So much better then the Bridgeport power feed ,, strength wise anyway. In another year that new box will need an extra room for tools. Mine did and its bigger than that model. My snap on box cost more than a new car at the time I bought it. Before HF started selling them. Which I'd buy now tho..
Yes, I like the neoprene outer shields on bearings, as you can lift the caps.
Lots of the bearing on tractor mowers now, have steel shields you cannot re- grease.
It is good policy to put the best grease possible, in them. That cost is minimal, I flush new bearings. Then use Penrite high temperature grease. It is water proof and has amazing adhesion. I expect there is a similar graphite grease available, that would be ideal, for your head stock replacement.
Wife’s grey squirrel is cute, but they are an introduced pest in England, the native squirrel, is a red squirrel.
Clicked for Chestnut, stayed... for Chestnut.
Shop looks better and better all the time!
You are using that fork lift a lot more than you expected Steve and would be lost without it now‼️👍👏
You need to have a look at Knipex tools.
German made and wish I knew about them before I equipped my Workshop.
Have bought some and will NEVER buy another brand‼️
I use pipe cleaners as wicks.
Elizabeth is a wonderful squirrel ‘Momma’👏👍
Ive become convinced that i could line the entire length of my shop wall with tool boxes and i could still find a reason for more 😀
I pretty much have that now. Two 72", a 54" one 72 and the 54 have top chests, one hutch and 2 end lockers. Still need more room though..
"you don't want to press on the outer...through the balls of the bearing, potentially damaging the race which i've on a wheel bearing years ago i had to
do and immediately replace it"
you and me both brother...you and me both.
Nice to see the shop coming to life again, love the channel. Thanks.
CHIPS!!! Thanks for the video. Chestnut is looking much better in such a short time!
You have surely come a long way. I am planning on buying a couple of the smaller tool boxes from HF. Plan is to have them designated to specific tasks, general mechanic's, machining, lathe, welding. At least that is the long term plan. Like you, don't have deep pockets, and as I get closer to retirement, that becomes even more critical. Thanks for sharing, thoroughly enjoy watching you adventures.
Steve, if you get vibration in the mill motor reverse one of the fan bolts. When you took it apart, they were pointing in opposite directions, but you reassembled with them in the same direction. Might be enough to affect the balance. Shop is looking really good.
you need a big dehumidifier ro keep all the rust away. love the shows, keep em coming.
Man if you ever open your own shop I would love to just sweep and watch for free to be around all these awesome activities you persue , you are a cool guy and I hope I can be like you someday , you seem like a very calm collective and confidant and intelligent person , very rare indeed person , a man's man and exemplary of what an industrious nature can achieve, awesome
A friend of mine has a similar lift, he added a remote so he could control just the lift/lower function while using it as a man lift. He also had me build a man basket for it with rails for safety. I got a bit fancy and added tool/ parts trays.
Excellent job on the bearing installation. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people hammering on bearings to install. ------ Every tool box I ever had was overloaded by at least 300% the first day. Then it got worse.
Good morning! It seems no matter how old your shop is, there is always something that needs improvement. There is no finished work environment, only "good enough for now". Keep up the good work, looking nice!
One feature of the big DoAll mill heads that I am familiar with is the high/low range doesn't reverse the spindle. So you can label the rotation direction switch unlike the Bridgeport where you can't. Some small DoAll mills look like Bridgeport copies probably reverse the spindle too. The more you take apart the better this mill looks.
It's amazing to see how far you have come with your shop! It looks beautiful now. It has been a joy to watch what went into getting where it is now. Keep up the good progress. Glad you're feeling better.
Ha, the last time I used a gantry crane and a fork lift to install a side-box to my toolbox, I....wait a minute, I never did that...because I haven't had those options...lol...and yes the rags in a box are super...the cloth ones always need washed...and that really piss's off the laundromat owners... shops shaping up nicely !
Hope, once the shop feels finished, you'll make a compilation of the journey.
first machining in a long time! i started watching because of the machining, nice to see it coming back as a priority. of course the shop was in no shape to do this type of work for the past year,. the shop is looking good.
Good choice going with sealed bearings, they are lubed for their designed life and you are correct, deep groove radial ball bearings can accept fairly heavy static and some dynamic loading, however they will fail prematurely if an impact shock load is applied, such as being hit with a hammer. (I'm a retired machine rebuilder with around thirty years of experience, l enjoy watching some one who knows what they're doing.)
Steve, 100% agree that U.S. General Tool Chests are very high quality and a great value. I have two of them and would like to sell my two Craftsman chests and replace with U.S. General. I see no need to buy one of the expensive "tool truck" brands at double or triple the cost. You made a great choice.
Its always nice to come home and look at one of your video's when one has to time or just want to learn something...:) Good luck and keep up the GOOD WORK :)
How long before that tool chest is filled to the brim and you have to get another extension?
morning Mr Clive nice to see you at this channel
Wonder what it weighs by the time it's filled?
In my case usually 2 hours.
Two things popped up in my subscriptions this morning, your defrost timer and this. :-)
@@dudleysdad Around 4 tons probably by the time it is full.
I really like my US General tool chests. That little side cabinet is really handy. Much better quality than the stuff thats in the big box stores now.....
Yeah, I agree. Me and Elizabeth went to a few places that sell tool boxes and I didn't find one brand that felt better quality IMO. Cant beat them for the money.
I have had various tool box brands over the years. I have had two Harbor Freight side boxes like yours for 15 years. They are by far the best box and the best values you can get. I like the handles because of the labeling capability. They hold up very well. I wouldn't buy anything else.
I like your video very much and you of cours your tha garet and your very good
Must be nice to have every tool ever. The largest strain you had putting your toolbox together was the unboxing.
Great video. Shop looks awesome. Wow big transformation. Thank you for sharing.
Looking good Steve. Good to see you machining again. Your shop is usable atleast. I have raw land no shop or house yet. Works in progress.
Steve , i guess we know why the central oiling system is a good idea. taking off from what clive asked' a week and a half!! im happy to see elizibeth has a new neck warmer. i get to see inside that mill, hard work for you. good video for the subbies! poppy's workshop sdays HI
several years ago i rebuilt the entire drive train on a 1955 Wolseley 6/90, a friend was visiting and implored me to have someone help setup the differential (i did engine, gearbox and all wheel bearings myself), i found a guy that lives 30km away and i suggested we do it in my garage as everything was laid out, he just had to bring the in/lb torque wrench (which i lacked).
he said 1st thing is pressing in the pinion bearing shell and we'd need a plate to spread the load, i handed him a 1/4 in disc i had cut out and ground to rough shape, ok he says, the second thing we did i handed him a similar disc for the pinion bearing, he looks at me and says i want to kiss you.
he explained that in 40+ years of working with mechanics, i was the best prepared person he had ever met, we spend more time chatting about life the universe and everything than actually working, the diff went together smoothly and the mesh pattern was so damn good he said if we tried to adjust it to get it better we would do more harm than good.
he paid me the biggest compliment when we were done by saying next time i ever need to do a diff, he's just lend me his tools.
very good job seteve..thanks for your time
Happy for you guys.
I love 💘too see your videos and your work 💪so much ❤💗💖💕💓💜
THANK YOU...for sharing. Fantastic update.
enjoyed....shop is looking great...koko
Love that comment about shops never really being done. I've been working on my shop since I built it in 2008 and don't think it will ever really be finished. Thanks for taking us along on your adventure.
Lots of good cleanup on that head. There’s a ton of grease to come out of there, that should be fun 😂. I need to get over there sometime and see the shop.
Is incredible to see how you're doing in the new shop; to think that just last year you were "working out of" one corner of your barn, now this place is looking like it's getting packed.
Good Job on the mill Steve
I didn't have time to watch anything, but then I saw your wife with Chestnut on the thumbnail and I couldn't help myself :D
Seeing you again is always great. Every time I see you using the little lift as a bench makes me wonder how you ever got along without it, LOL. It seems we have more and more things in common. I made a wooden mallet much like yours 40 years ago and have an identical side cabinet on my main tool chest. Do all the drawers have or need liners. Looks like a few hours needed to do that for sure. Your friend Al sure made a nice thing happen eh. I hope who ever stuffed this full of grease and almost damaged the whole machine is watching this and realises the poss damage they may have made. For the gearbox grease I would think a synthetic EP1 would work well in there. It's neat to see you at the lathe again. It has been a while eh. Yer lookin great my friend and as always thanks for inviting us into your world !
Nice work Steve. Enjoyed the content sir. My Bridgeport finally went kapoot on me. I weighed my options and instead of having the head rebuilt I opted to buy a new Acer head with the VFD. It runs like a sewing machine! You can't hear the thing running. It's amazing! Keep up the great work Steve!
Great to see the shop looking like proper shop 👍 you should be well proud of the work well done, great vid as usual
this is the fun part of getting the shop back online, enjoy it.
I have had a HF cabinet and box for about 10 years no complaints other than the rollers did the same thing as your electric lift. I'm glad I don't generally move it.
I agree 2 rubber seals for bearings, many new motors are built this way now, warm em up with a heat gun as well
That fork lift is earning its keep in many ways. You had me going when you said "write the program". I wondered if you had bought yourself a Mazak. :-)
Thanks Steve
Another excellent video. Whenever I see a new one is up from you, or keith rucker or stephan gotswinter, I smile, get my cup of coffee, start it going, sit back in my easy chair and totally relax.
I appreciate Al helping you out as much as he has. We all benefit from learning in this shop that he has helped so much with.
Al has been awesome. That guy has helped me in so many ways. I can't thank him enough.
Great Progress.
I keep a Dymo label maker in the shop also. Great little tool..
I find your care and incredible attention to detail fascinating to watch. It borders on OCD at times! 🤭😉😆 Thanks for another excellent video, Steve. 👍👍
I have changed more bearings in motors that I care to reveal.. I have been in the bowling business for close to 45 years I have worked in both Brunswick and AMF houses I worked for 10 years in an AMF bowling house with 50 Lanes.. Each one of the machines ( pinspotters ) has three motors on them and they have vertical motors that go into a gear reduction box with a right hand output not only did I rebuild all of the gear reduction boxes all new bearings oil splashes bronze bearings and worm drives but I went through all of the half horsepower electric motors,.. now these particular motors(50 years old) were Japanese motors and the centrifugal switches we're getting to the point you cannot buy them anymore so we had to change over to electrical motor start centrifical switches and let me tell you some of the motors in key ways that were damaged had to broach new keyways, all sorts of modifications down to the point of having to use soft 5 mm key stock so that it would not damage the shaft or the pocket that the shaft went into.. but once they were up and running trouble-free operations.. I had boxes and boxes and boxes of bearings.,..😵😫😂
Workshop is looking fantastic! Worth all the hard work.
Another Great Video -- but you need more Elizabeth.. love the squirrel
43:12 was wondering what that mess was. The shop is looking good. That big vertical mill when finished will be a real asset. Amazing how many mills have to have grease cleaned out of the oil lines. Stay safe, stay well.
Good job
Been a long journey from the start of the tear down .. so nice to see you finally getting equipment un-buried and usuable again!
Thanks for sharing!
Great update!
Thanks for sharing!
You need an ultrasonic cleaner. I bought one and it is amazing how often I use it. I’d use it more but my neighbor keeps borrowing it. He loves it too. You could just drop all those gears and bearings into it and they would come out gleaming and you know that the insides of the bearings are all free of grease. It would also make short work of that gummed up carb. If you buy one, get the biggest one you can afford. I love mine but often wish it was bigger.
Great progress, thanks for sharing!