I'm in my first playthrough of vanilla Nocturne (No Chronicles because the first time i started the game the option New Game Chronicles didn't show up lol) and this is exactly why my team right now consists on every demon with as many elements as possible, mana refill, 1 buff/debuff and anything that could be useful lol.
Yep. I always know when to move on from an area when I’ve leveled up enough to take out every encounter in one turn of autobattle. Do that and you’ll be good as gold in literally every Atlus RPG. 😂
Debilitate on turn one, then smack everyone with a Elec Boosted Maziodyne (works well in the final story dungeon where those annoying ass Repel Phys Rangadas will spawn like roaches, as they are weak to electric). Demi-fiend then absolutely trashes the entire enemy party with a Gaea Rage that does damn near 1000HP damage after a single Debilitate and no buffs; or if they have Repel Phys I just smack the specific demon with a Freikugel and use Bishamon (Hassohappa) or Trumpeter (Megidolaon) to finish them off. Guaranteed one-round kill, enemy doesn't get a chance to do shit. Plus I always grind close to the healing fountain lady so burning through my MP means little when I can cheaply heal it all.
@@Apollo-iq1vx I'm glad you can oneshot random encounters with an endgame min-maxed build, I guess? And try Hard mode where regardless of your agility, the enemies will get the first turn of combat in most encounters.
@@Apollo-iq1vx because you deserve it. yours was such a moronic comment. you're talking about gaea rage and shit repels do you genuinely think the player could have access to end game builds at this point lmao. do you also go tell people to just use megidolaon against matador?
Persona: *misses* "No biggie, I should buff next time." Shin Megami Tensei: *misses* "I just lost the whole fucking battle." *enemy uses Dragon Eye, buffed/debuff themselves, uses Focus and uses Deathbound to kill the entire party in one hit*
@@ThomasOwOD I might be still rather new to Megaten but I have this instinctive reaction to where if I fucking whiff an attack I'm de/buffing immediately because I'm not about to get my ass handed to me from random mobs today. That or I just have a demon with Trafuri.
When I first played the game on normal I couldn't really understand why people keep saying that it was so hard when I only died against Matador because I just wasn't prepared. But then I tried the Hard mode and, holly shit, the amount of times I died on just stupid random battles is hugue (Really, who the fuck thought that not being able to flee in a randomized battle system was balanced?)
@@nr2676 They didn't want to lose their recognition as one of the most hard and unfair games I guess (at least they finally let you manually select the skills you inherit
@@manuelmateo3392 You will eventually. And by end game you should be able to throw around loads of skills every fight. Or at least that's how it's on Hard Mode.
It's so fun yet so miserable watching everyone in your party die between each attack. It's fun because you can't believe it, you think you won't die. It's miserable because you knoe what's comming.
I remember that moment when I was into the amala labyrinth And I forgot to change the magatama. So my weakness was dark. And a bitch used Mamudoon on my party. 🙈
@@AloisAgos It's not BS if it's taking advantage of a weakness. Also, while the sentiment is somewhat correct, having a weakness to either Death or Expel often confers plenty of bonuses in stats and other positive properties. It's up to the player if they want to roll around with the risk of getting instakilled as a a result.
@@YOTSUBA_desu Somewhat true, but you will often find demons in this franchise that pack both. However, Expel is not always instant death depending on the game.
And that is why you don't skimp on AGI stats. Pretty sure the Matador fight should have taught us how valuable evasion can be. (Kept Fog Breath on my MC the whole game for a reason).
The fact that I saw fog breath on jack o lantern here and they didn't use it made me want to cry. I'm blind to nocturne for the most part but I'm in first kalpa now and lord I'm scared for the future lol
@@The_PolterGhost agi does do a lot like keep you from being back atk or having first turn but ye its not rly an all insanely important stat since sukuja and fog breath are still way more significant in dodging/hitting
@@Akita23 I can tell, since nobody uses buffs or debuffs in regular battles. It's a complete waste. "Fog Breath" is not the magical problem solver you think it is, it's use is revealed only during bosses, and many bosses can be comfortably beaten without it.
I've recently been getting into Atlus games starting with Persona 5 and recently Soul Hackers 2 watching this has me scared of playing Nocturne which I also bought recently 😂
1 - dont use normal attacks when you are fighting against many enemies, specially a Oni like monster, you are in danger, throw everything you have or you may die in the next round 2 - dont use status effect skills, they WILL fail, and even it it works it wont kill enemies, and enemies alive means you dead 3 - you'll probably should replace Lunge
you re playing it wrong, I always have at least 3 elemental magic on all my demons in my current active party, and I did this on ps2, it should be ridiculously easy to pull of in the hd remaster version thanks to manual skill inheritance
@@jonm5894 trafuri is your friend. reg encounters are mostly ass and dont give you much i run from them till my high pixie runs out of mana. if i need to level i just get attract bells from rags shop and choose easy farm locations like underpass of ginza cause maragi is all you need to one turn encounters and there is a save point and shop there. or if you get mamudo there are multiple areas in the game that only have angel encounters.
@@wellfarekoon This game can be beaten without grinding, literally if you run from as few encounters and fill in as much of the map as possible, only bosses will provide any significant danger. Running from battles that end in three rounds max is crazy, and what in the world does this even do for the dungeons that you can't even comfortably leave in this game. Grinding in general is boring, grinding near the Underpass of all places sounds mind-numbing.
@@jonm5894 Hahaha. It's funny because this is like the 3rd video I have seen from this channel in just a couple days. Mind as well just subscribe and leave a like.
You have Fog Breath on Jack Lantern and instead of use it you pass turn to Taraka, and then die from physical attacks. So actually yes, its outskilled.
As soon as you missed the first time, you should have recognized the potential to die or at least lose a demon and gone for Fog Breath. Also probably would have passed instead of going for an ailment and used Mabufu + Berserk with Demi-Fiend to hopefully take out at least one enemy.
First rule of SMT: If you can't end a random encounter in one turn, take it seriously.
@this is not me damn.
If you can't end it in one turn, it might already be too late
I'm in my first playthrough of vanilla Nocturne (No Chronicles because the first time i started the game the option New Game Chronicles didn't show up lol) and this is exactly why my team right now consists on every demon with as many elements as possible, mana refill, 1 buff/debuff and anything that could be useful lol.
Yep. I always know when to move on from an area when I’ve leveled up enough to take out every encounter in one turn of autobattle. Do that and you’ll be good as gold in literally every Atlus RPG. 😂
if you couldn't one turn it you weren't prepared
Literally every button I press while playing this game, is followed by the word fuck. This game just hates me. But I still love it
This comment made me lol
I keep nearly killing myself because of the auto attack button.
thats the shin megami tensei experience!
"We get off on your tears." --Some Atlus employee.
Thanks to ATLUS.
And salute the masochist player.
I love how Demi-Fiend tried to counter. Like he was yelling "FUCKING STOP!!"
And Oni's Berserk is like
No No
No
Just seeing "Outskilled" with a thumbnail of Nocturne made me laugh out loud.
Debilitate on turn one, then smack everyone with a Elec Boosted Maziodyne (works well in the final story dungeon where those annoying ass Repel Phys Rangadas will spawn like roaches, as they are weak to electric). Demi-fiend then absolutely trashes the entire enemy party with a Gaea Rage that does damn near 1000HP damage after a single Debilitate and no buffs; or if they have Repel Phys I just smack the specific demon with a Freikugel and use Bishamon (Hassohappa) or Trumpeter (Megidolaon) to finish them off.
Guaranteed one-round kill, enemy doesn't get a chance to do shit. Plus I always grind close to the healing fountain lady so burning through my MP means little when I can cheaply heal it all.
@@Apollo-iq1vx I'm glad you can oneshot random encounters with an endgame min-maxed build, I guess? And try Hard mode where regardless of your agility, the enemies will get the first turn of combat in most encounters.
@@LoudWaffle what's with the slightly passive aggressive reply? Lmao
@@Apollo-iq1vx because you deserve it. yours was such a moronic comment. you're talking about gaea rage and shit repels do you genuinely think the player could have access to end game builds at this point lmao. do you also go tell people to just use megidolaon against matador?
"Nocturne is a fun relaxing game"
Said no one ever
if only people said that...
@@adachivineboom I say that, before a mudoom makes me clench up and hyperventilate in fear of loosing all my progress.
Classic Nocturne.
A turn-based JRPG where a single miss means game over
Persona: *misses* "No biggie, I should buff next time."
Shin Megami Tensei: *misses* "I just lost the whole fucking battle." *enemy uses Dragon Eye, buffed/debuff themselves, uses Focus and uses Deathbound to kill the entire party in one hit*
@@BalanceHeroSMTwhich one do you like better?
@@pn2294 SMT
My favorite part of this game is that I died maybe 3 times to the very first encounter in the game, like literally the tutorial 10/10.
I have a video on my channel of me dying to it too lmao, you're not alone
Thats just intended
The game was designed to make that a legitimate possibility
If I recall you actually have to heal at least once? People probably like "Nah it's the tutorial, I probably don't actually have to heal" lol
"hmm i wonder why i never finished nocturne"
this vid
"oh right"
should've parried that
You know you are for a ride when you even fail to debuff your enemy
he didn’t use a debuff though and debuffs can’t fail, do you mean he used shibaboo?
Reminds me of expirence in second kalpa.. I had Nekomata and Mothman in party, when encountered that damned Phantom with ziodyne
Dude , I litteraly just experienced the same . Fucking second kalpa . With his phantoms and flauros
Someone didn´t do his homework
czcams.com/video/fnS3nWX9iu4/video.html
That’s why I always have a demon with Trafuri skill.
It won't help you on their turn.
Fr, Trafuri is basically necessary (especially since Estoma is hot garbage in this game).
should've used fog breath on Jack-o's turn,
deserved imo
Like literally tho
he should’ve rakukaja-ed when he had the chance too
Nah that's a waste of mp, you don't waste MP on encounters
@@ThomasOwOD I might be still rather new to Megaten but I have this instinctive reaction to where if I fucking whiff an attack I'm de/buffing immediately because I'm not about to get my ass handed to me from random mobs today. That or I just have a demon with Trafuri.
@@Goolian761 well that's a good strat but ooga booga I conserve sp because my first megaten game was persona q
Imagine passing instead of using fog breath, the best ability in t
When I first played the game on normal I couldn't really understand why people keep saying that it was so hard when I only died against Matador because I just wasn't prepared. But then I tried the Hard mode and, holly shit, the amount of times I died on just stupid random battles is hugue (Really, who the fuck thought that not being able to flee in a randomized battle system was balanced?)
The worst thing in hard mode is everything costs x3 more than in normal mode (even healing and magatamas).
@@nr2676 Tbh that's what really annoyed me since I like collecting all magatamas as soon as possible, but I couldn't even buy the necessary ones
@@Kafka_Garezerra They should remove this thing in HD Remaster, ofcourse they didnt :D
@@nr2676 They didn't want to lose their recognition as one of the most hard and unfair games I guess (at least they finally let you manually select the skills you inherit
@@Kafka_Garezerra The 3xhigher healing/shopping cost only forces the player to grind. Remaster should have a option to turn -off this thing.
Despite not using fog breath, can’t even blame ya
The game just got the better of you
Imagine using debuffs on a normal fight.
@@manuelmateo3392 you know I rather that than taking chances at getting oneshot
@@manuelmateo3392 You will eventually. And by end game you should be able to throw around loads of skills every fight. Or at least that's how it's on Hard Mode.
It's so fun yet so miserable watching everyone in your party die between each attack. It's fun because you can't believe it, you think you won't die. It's miserable because you knoe what's comming.
This went from 0 to 100 real fast like damn...
In Nocturne, it's one-turn or be one-turned.
I remember that moment when I was into the amala labyrinth And I forgot to change the magatama. So my weakness was dark.
And a bitch used Mamudoon on my party. 🙈
NEVER have a build with a light or dark weakness in ANY SMT game. The games are already hard enough without BS instakills coming out of nowhere.
all it took was one early game hamaon to convince me to put anti-light and anti-dark on the demi-fiend
@@AloisAgos Most dungeons only have either hama or mudo, so you can be weak to one.
@@AloisAgos It's not BS if it's taking advantage of a weakness. Also, while the sentiment is somewhat correct, having a weakness to either Death or Expel often confers plenty of bonuses in stats and other positive properties. It's up to the player if they want to roll around with the risk of getting instakilled as a a result.
@@YOTSUBA_desu Somewhat true, but you will often find demons in this franchise that pack both. However, Expel is not always instant death depending on the game.
Let’s see:
5 total attacks for opposing side and all of them were aoe. Yep, sounds about right.
They weren't playing.
A single Fog Breath and the outcome of the battle could have been radically different.
you can do the same, that s why it s fair
And that is why you don't skimp on AGI stats. Pretty sure the Matador fight should have taught us how valuable evasion can be. (Kept Fog Breath on my MC the whole game for a reason).
The fact that I saw fog breath on jack o lantern here and they didn't use it made me want to cry. I'm blind to nocturne for the most part but I'm in first kalpa now and lord I'm scared for the future lol
The actual AGI stat does close to nothing, but not throwing Fog Breath was a death waiting to happen
I beat the game with 6agi
@@The_PolterGhost agi does do a lot like keep you from being back atk or having first turn but ye its not rly an all insanely important stat since sukuja and fog breath are still way more significant in dodging/hitting
@@Akita23 I can tell, since nobody uses buffs or debuffs in regular battles. It's a complete waste. "Fog Breath" is not the magical problem solver you think it is, it's use is revealed only during bosses, and many bosses can be comfortably beaten without it.
fun and fair JRPG experience
I love when you get to exploit the enemies, you feel smart
Demi-Fiend: *Misses*
Enemy Demons: annnnnd, that’s game
Allied Demon: *Also misses*
Enemy Demons: See now they’re just griefing
I remember back then i ragequit and break my controller only for this
Reasons why I overkill since this game. In I and II you would just manual sword
Some things never change
berserk is op unless i use it always a miss never a crit
i love you shin megami tensei nocturne (im a masochist)
Nocturne moment
When the C is turne
It physically hurt me see you not use that fog breath
They had me on the first turn, not gonna lie.
If you lose two press turns to an attack missing, and you refuse to use any agility changing moves (Fog Breath) then it really is your fault.
I love SMT moments
...this is why I stocked up on those repulse bells and made sure if i found estoma... I kept it active all the time
The 2 Taraka and Oni formation is NASTY at this point in the game.
Thank you shin megami tensei nocturne
pain
i played on highest risk difficulty the 3rd time i played, loved this game
I've recently been getting into Atlus games starting with Persona 5 and recently Soul Hackers 2 watching this has me scared of playing Nocturne which I also bought recently 😂
It's pretty good! This is on hard mode, so don't be too discouraged
You did all the right things and still got absolutely slaughtered?
Skill issue.
And that after 63 etage and after meeting gozutheno😂😂😂
God bless this game.
Game: Digital Devil Saga 2
Nocturne is an extreme game of tug of war, if you don't pull it to your side first, your enemy will
パト気持ち良すぎだろ！
This is so sad.
That was a full party wipe, bruh 💀💀 😭😭😭
When you directly go to the pass command instead of using the pass button
THERE'S A PASS BUTTON?
@@jonm5894 atleast on playstation.
Its square there.
that was a cruel fight
Cturne moment
getting rekt is one thing but your ENTIRE PARTY getting wiped is peak disrespect
"If only I have Ice breath to hit the ice weak Taraka"
Totally outplayed
Wtf the oni didnt use war cry??
Simply a difference in skill
Bro, you had Fog Breath. Don't be greedy in SMT.
I dont see anything wrong here
1 - dont use normal attacks when you are fighting against many enemies, specially a Oni like monster, you are in danger, throw everything you have or you may die in the next round
2 - dont use status effect skills, they WILL fail, and even it it works it wont kill enemies, and enemies alive means you dead
3 - you'll probably should replace Lunge
This was my basic-attack-and-sometimes-status-effects-only run
@@jonm5894 that sounds like a grim challenge, did you manage it?
@@jamesharrison658 I actually failed at the start of the video when I used mabufu and had to promptly delete my save after this
@@jonm5894 lol
Replace lunge? Is there any single target phys skill in early game beside lunge?
If you miss the enemy once *RUN!*
RIP
lol 😆
Most fanboy'ed game in the franchise, everyone.
Should have fog breathed tbh.
you re playing it wrong, I always have at least 3 elemental magic on all my demons in my current active party, and I did this on ps2, it should be ridiculously easy to pull of in the hd remaster version thanks to manual skill inheritance
Maybe dont miss n00b
YOU USE SHIBABOO?
Damn right
Shibabo is OP in SMT 1
I just ordered Nocturne today and now i feel like it was a mistake.
Was it?
@@brothir no.
Nocturne hates the player seriously
Should not have missed.
Who can solo smt multiverse?
>trying to use status effect skills in nocturne
ok
Oni is weak to them and it usually hits what can I say
Only time I ever went into a battle intending to use status effects was the Troll, every time besides that it's just never seemed worth it.
>fights enemies that have skills that can miss easily
>doesn’t use fog breath on them
The title of this video doesn’t lie.
Cturne
@@jonm5894 trafuri is your friend. reg encounters are mostly ass and dont give you much i run from them till my high pixie runs out of mana. if i need to level i just get attract bells from rags shop and choose easy farm locations like underpass of ginza cause maragi is all you need to one turn encounters and there is a save point and shop there. or if you get mamudo there are multiple areas in the game that only have angel encounters.
@@wellfarekoon This game can be beaten without grinding, literally if you run from as few encounters and fill in as much of the map as possible, only bosses will provide any significant danger. Running from battles that end in three rounds max is crazy, and what in the world does this even do for the dungeons that you can't even comfortably leave in this game. Grinding in general is boring, grinding near the Underpass of all places sounds mind-numbing.
Should of buffed
pfft…rotten luck, agility cannot save for shit
Why am I getting this video on recomended?
I asked CZcams nicely
@@jonm5894 Hahaha. It's funny because this is like the 3rd video I have seen from this channel in just a couple days. Mind as well just subscribe and leave a like.
Pov: nocturne no buff run
simply a bad decision in judgment
You didn't use For breath after demi friend miss his target, you deserved it XD
Imagine using buffs or debuffs in a regular fight, nobody does this.
@@manuelmateo3392 Persona_Fan.png
Rpgs are about strategy
Nocturne is about luck
A single Fog Breath would have changed the outcome of the fight easily.
Deserved
why do you have 900 phys skills early game ? you didn't get outskilled you would have to have useful skills in the first place
Tornado shock and analyze are my favorite physical skills I take them in every smt game
Should have used the fog breath
This is literally your fault for not using fog breath
You have Fog Breath on Jack Lantern and instead of use it you pass turn to Taraka, and then die from physical attacks. So actually yes, its outskilled.
Clearly a skill issue.
Shrimply a difference in skill.
Clearly you were outplayed.
As soon as you missed the first time, you should have recognized the potential to die or at least lose a demon and gone for Fog Breath.
Also probably would have passed instead of going for an ailment and used Mabufu + Berserk with Demi-Fiend to hopefully take out at least one enemy.
>Fighting demons which primarily use AOE to attack you
>Didn't use Fog Breath
You only have yourself to blame.
skill issue
Skill issue.
Skill issue
That smt bullshit!
Shouldn’t have missed, skill issue
Wait, so do I consider myself lucky? I've never died on normal encounters or fierce battles up until now. Maybe I'm just good at the game 😏
Go to a casino my guy.
@@the_og_alpha i probably should, my gacha luck is also kinda nuts
@@hitagisenjougahara4677 hit up the lottery
@@danhue2682 yooo, maybe I should gamble my wife away
Honestly so long as you debuff/buff in fights the game is a cake walk most of the time (getting hit by insta-kill moves notwithstanding).
skill issue